"He's Famous, But Not A Big Talent!" Douglas Murray SLAMS Russell Brand
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2023
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by author Douglas Murray, Times Radio broadcaster Mariella Frostrup and author and broadcaster Robert Peston to discuss Russell Brand's questionable history as well as the allegations lobbied against him and how much onus should be placed on those media companies that platformed him.
Douglas explains that although he is recognised as 'famous' over in America, people have never said he is a 'big talent'. He also adds that he hopes to see more successful prosecutions take place for crimes against women who aren't just done by celebrities.
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It’s simple . Brand is not being attacked for what he did THEN , he’s being attacked for what he’s saying NOW.
Yes, the "EstAbliShmEnt" is really scared of crazy hippies that make no sense whatsoever.
Mainstream media are also responsible, mainstream media is breaking the story, mainstream media has done the investigation.
So what’s your conspiracy theory?
THIS.
It's as clear as day.
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This isn’t a discussion. This is propaganda. Russell addressed more important issues than this show ever has. That’s why they hate him.
The man's a joke. And not even a good one.
He hasn't posted a video since he was demonitized that's all I need to know about Brand's motivation
So you admit that as a 30yr old man it’s ok to pick up 16yr olds from high school and take them home and f them? What’s the difference between Epstein and brand? Only 1 year of age difference is just fine with you?
He is laying low.
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He deserves some credit for literally being the only bloke from that era who has totally transformed his life around. For almost 10 years already.
Roger That.
By that logic, if someone committed a murder 10 years ago and did not do it again, they should not have to go to jail when they are found 100% guilty of the crime.
@@spirituallysafethat logic only holds if he actually committed rape.
we all know why this is happening. They're doing a Julian Assange on him. He talked too much.
Yep. From mediocre comedian & junkie to left wing conspiracy nutter & grifter to far right "wellness" grifter. All the while growing his investment portfolio while bagging the elites. What an evolution.
Murray just diminished himself by dismissing Brands contributions. Sounded more like a jealous slam then an actual critic of the situation. If Brand was just a crazy Conspiracy Theorist they wouldn't have bothered trying to cancel him.
using one card from the playbook wasnt enough, now they are also saying Brand is far right wing? Laughable!! People has to be brain dead to believe it
Exactly. He's NOW taking flak because he's over the target.
What has Russell contributed other than crazy conspiracy theories?
@@mdaddy775 The best way to get the answer is directly from the 'horse's mouth' by watching his political commentary shows for yourself: www.youtube.com/@RussellBrand
@@mdaddy775 I'm quite sure it would be a complete waste of my time to try to educate you so I just allow you to remain in your troll state.
This Brand bashing is appalling. They're all acting like he's guilty. How can we possibly know whether these accusations are true that happened twenty years ago?
You won't be able to save this rapist, sorry.😂
More evidence than the rapists conspiracy theories, bye bye Russel. 😂🤣 @@caseyjones513
Based on irrefutable evidence and his own confessions. So what is your point exactly?@@brandonblop
Ask Danny Masterson
Those women are liars. I don’t even need to hear more. I know they’re lying. They just are. Woman can be real dirt bags towards good men like Brand.
Douglas Murray doesn't often disappoint me yet he did this time! js
Maybe that's because you expect things to be black and white, apparently, and "us" against "them". Once again, Douglas Murray proved his intellectual integrity here.
@@AALavdas - "Intellectual integrity" ?
Stop it, you're giving me the giggle fits!
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@@AALavdasbullshit he’s being paid to jump on the bandwagon here
I thought the same. How can Douglas be so off on the content of RB podcast? Is it because Russell isn't right, because Douglas never listened to it, or because he can't move past the 'old' Russ of the 90s which I have to say I couldn't stand back then and many I know can't take that he's evolved from that.
Russ is doing amazing work these days, awesome channel and reporting.
and how!
Quite utterly extraordinary. You get a guy who by Piers own words has been brutally honest - frank - open - transparent - telling interviewers his deepest most intimate thoughts and feelings - who has publicly documented his own life story from misogynist to what he ultimately became - in fact ACTUALLY - he didnt change at all..... He CONTINUED to tell the truth - He showed how he overcame sex addiction - alcohol abuse - and how he found wonderful ways to balance his life through yoga, meditation, breathing, cold water - etc. etc. etc. You have taken his truth and stabbed him in the back with it. This is "journalism" at its lowest point. Pure monetization of someone who cannot even defend themselves. I think however as all of these events occur - we are all doing what Russell brand tells us to do - we are staying AWAKE and we can see what is happening. I see you are not discussing his latest interview with Dr John Campbell ? C*v*d vaccines being issues to every American regardless of their age - the 400% increase in the cost of the moderna vaccine - The fact that Rishi Sunack is a major investor - that all his cronies are now top dogs at Moderna - That the UK has invested billions and billions of pounds into long term development of this vaccine through Moderna - The FACTS which are all publicly available yet dont get a mention on mainstream news - the same channels that then tell their audience that Russell Brand tells "baseless" (BBCs words) conspiracy theories. Well Piers - once upon a time - vaccine injury was a baseless theory - people who didnt want the vaccine were considered nutcases and ant establishment. You know what? I have learnt more about the world through conspiracy theory than I ever have done through Mainstream news. I actually find TRUTH. One last comment.... for anyone who thinks I am another nutcase. A top financier once said to me. "Richard - you want conspiracy theories? How many Londons are there?" Naturally I thought it was a joke. To this day - No matter HOW many people I have asked and it must be over 100 by this day - NOBODY has ever given me the right answer. Truth in plain sight - yet if I told you there are two - I would suggest 99% would tell me I am mad - and the 1% who know the truth - didnt learn it at school - or through the mainstream media.
When you say how many Londons are there what do you mean ? Like London Ontario ? Or demographics? Sorry Richard I don’t understand what you mean can you please explain? This was a great comment and I just felt compulsed to ask by what nature you meant you said you asked over 100 people and they didn’t know , I’ll be honest if you mean places there are a few in America I think a couple in Africa and South America but most people wouldn’t usually know the exact amount because I would presume a lot wouldn’t be big major cities maybe small towns that would have no relevance to anything I know there are loads of Manchesters and Chesterfields scattered about 😂
@@leonarddavies288 Hi! I am so glad you felt "compulsed" - I appreciate it! Its become the most wonderful party trick, lol. If anyone ever mocks conspiracy theory (IE knowing something they dont want to believe or havent bothered to make the effort to learn) I just tell them to name the two Londons. If they can't - it proves they have no right to mock what they dont already know :) Obviously we all went to school - We all took history and learned about..... Wait for it.... the great potato famine? The Boston Tea Party? The Industrial Revolution? These all stick in my mind during what were the most painful days of my life - school. So of course if there were TWO Londons in the UK we would all learn about it right? Especially if the details surrounding them are so unbelievably - incredibly significant to everyone who lives in the UK. But actually NO. The history of the two Londons is apparently so inconsequential that we are not educated about it at school and nor is it ever mentioned during our lifetimes it seems. OK so as I have eluded to - the answer is they are both in the UK. One however has its own government, mayor and police force; its own laws, flag and coat of arms Yep So the answer is there are TWO Londons - and when the Queen wants to visit - she has to be granted permission I believe? Just serarch "The Two Londons" or "are there two londons" on youtube and you should find some cool videos on the history and how it all became about. I would have found it interesting had they taught me at school - as I think you may find it too :) Thanks for not being mean to me.
@@RichardsGuitarshop Yeah, the one is almost like the Vatican in a way.
tldr
You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories (and I don't) to understand that Article 6 of the Human Rights Act protects citizen's rights to a fair trial. And, that does not include via the media. I cannot stand him, and rarely listen to a thing he says. I blame GQ magazine and lad culture for most of his tripe. But that is not the point. There are reasons, historically, why people used to go to public executions. For the entertainment and not for the justice. People who think they have the right to freedom of expression, should realize some people intend to remove it, bit by bit.
Not a big talent? Russell is a genius.
Your standarts are below 0 then?
@@timbosveld4277 lolololol ahm...no. DM doesnt even have a TH-cam channel. But how can anyone put Brand the consoiracy moronic fan even next to him??
Whatever you think of him, he’s not there to defend himself. Of all people, I’m most disappointed in Douglas.
Same
the triggernometry boys are close with douglas, adn they are friends with alleged victims, i heard them hint at this years ago.
@@Flow-cf6uu thirded
4th'd. Agreed! Ironically, I read Douglas' book 'War on the West' and was generally surprised how limited his scope was on the real implosion that the west is going under. At the time I actually thought Russell Brand could teach Murray a lot.
Gutless Murray there for you
Guilty by social media. The world has lost the plot
Never had the plot .. that chick is a so called a Expert ,,, No
Guilty in my mind a decade ago based on his behaviour on regular old TV.
TH-cam Rules... literally
100%
Tbh this would have happened before social media too. The majority of humans since the dawn of time have the view "guilty until proven innocent" because they love to follow the crowd and engage in mob mentality
Social media just exaggerated it because it made doing those things incredibly easy and without consequence. It's why people joking around with incredibly serious words like nonce and pedo has skyrocketed in society. Before social media people wouldn't use these words if they thought the person they were saying it to would attack them. Now they can just say it on an anonymous social media account
However 20 years ago you'd still be sacked or at the very least be asked not to come into work during a trial of this nature so its not some new thing imo. Plus what was "normal" in the 90s nobody cared about. That's why people say The Inbetweeners, Bo Selecta, and Ali G are extremely offensive now. Everyone just laughed at them back then. Some still do because they haven't turned into snowflakes
The moment he shifted from the safe, comfortable left and starting questioning the narrative, he put himself at risk.
Maybe he should use condoms, eh?
Douglas Murray is a hypocrite! What happened to "innocent until proven guilty" as he said about Kevin Spacey on this same show 🤡
This interview has really exposed the hypocracy of this show.
Agreed. I’m a bit shocked with this one
To be fair Piers is completely on the fence. Innocent until proven guilty.
Too right
The 3 men are scared that if they do not disparage Brandt, they will have sexual accusations piled up against them as well (cowards) - that's how Western totalitarianism wors, and the woman just hasn't had good sex with an assertive man in her life
@@JAWS-dn8fm Is he though? He plays down Russell's innocence and then plays up the accusations as if Russell was wondering the street and threw women into an alleyway and did he way with them and walked off. All these stories end the say way. "We were in a consensual relationship. We had sex a few times before. He tried something more extreme (Still wonder how was this a shock to these women given he self advertised as a sex extremest before they even met) these women said no, or pushed him off and he stopped. In none of these stories he did not hold them in place till he finished. He did not beat them to submission, he did not tie them up. And it seems these women continued to see him after these nights in question. Why is no one asking these women if they felt so attacked, why did they stay on, why did they not go to the police and why are they going to journalists 10+ years after the fact?
Anyone who calls Brand a conspiracy theorist simply hasn't listened to his podcast. He doesn't give opinions on the matters. He only gives the facts and provides other options of news than just the mainstream media, who we all know are heavily controlled.
Exactly. He points out conflicts of interests
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Indeed
Great point. The sheep will believe everything they are reading without doing any kind of research. As far as I can see there is nothing to stop him from continuing to do his channel. I don't imagine he is short of a few quid so he should continue to expose people and their activities in fact he has nothing to lose now so he can speak freely. I think too many people are suspicious of MSM now and their actions and I firmly believe they are completely responsible for people doubting anything they have to say. The same can be said for Politicians on all sides. Tell the truth about everything and not what suits your agenda, nobody cares about your agenda but people do care about the truth and in this day and age the truth is sadly lacking in all aspects of life.
Douglas Murray just outed himself as not being on our team.
Grow the hell up. Brand is a somewhat charming grifter - everything is an act, always has been by him (and I’m from the U.K. and listened to him in the early xfm radio days in 2001/2002, he was just hungry for fame at any way he could achieve it) - and now he identified an income based around the whole IDW milieu led by Joe Rogan at the beginning (and I like Joe), and propagated that even further. He’s started his own ersatz religion where he’s the messiah, the elder, the unquestioned one.. and you’re all his sheep and flock. It’s a grift in plain sight. A cult of conspiracy and pseudoscience and faux-numinous nonsense and spirituality.
He’s not one shred of evidence, or education, or training to pertain to most of what he says - unlike, another semi-charlatan he hangs with - Jordan Peterson. At least there was a bedrock of a scientific mind there, once upon a time. Hearing his obfuscations when asked a direct question on religion infuriates me.
Thinking people are never on a team.
of course he isn't he openly bats for the other team.
Agreed. I never expected this from him. Very shameful.
@@dinobotpwnz
"Thinking people are never on a team."
Murray is thinking?
All he does is parrot idiotic talking points that he hears from Neocons...
Murray is literally a definition of a dollar store UK Neocon.
All he does is talk about how amazing Western values and how bad people who don't agree with them are but when you press on him to define "western values" he will showcase just how abstract and vague these things are to him... just buzzwords he uses as post-hoc justifications for his bigotry.
If white person says edgy things about women and gays Murray will say its just a joke bro the "intolerant left" is at it again... but when Muslim says the same he explodes.
Apply your standards consistently... its not that hard...
Neocons will always use the "Western superiority" when it suits them and "Western degeneracy and deep state woke cultural marxism" when it suits them however both statements cant be true at the same time one of them or both of them are a lie.
Proud of RB he has worked his butt off to become a better person ❤
He's asking for money now on his own channel. It's like Trump. Pathetic.
Who cares??
Murray seems off his game on this one. He had no trouble defending Kevin Spacey from cancel culture.
He can personally relate with one and not the other. I was surprised how much he detests Russell but he is as far from a womanizer as possible. So…..🤷♂️
@@MGuitarZ77 Prob deep seeded jealousy sadly, Russel got with way more Women and although Murray is Gay he's probably desired many women. Hell most Gay men have a hard time not being promiscuous.
Absolutely.
hes envious of the 6,6 million subscribers, cause he is a "scholar" and Russell just an amateur, a commoner, in his arrogant view
@@Joao-id4dn Typically yes, but women nowadays are more promiscuous too... looking at the rise of Of and such
" He's famous but not a big talent "
Oooh Mr. Murray.... not the slightest hint of envy there 🤓🤓🤓
You nailed it, the guys an imbecile . Kudos to you …
A man who couldn't fill a phone booth describing a man who fills stadiums 😅
I believe you do not know how many book Douglas Murray has sold, or you have very large phone booths in your country.
I believe he has stated a simple fact. R. B. is indeed famous but, for many people, completely unworthy of that fame. By the way: Hitler filled even bigger stadiums. Popularity is not synonymous with competence. @@BrenCford
@@BrenCford GREAT REPLY ! Kudos
@@geraldrada considering he was only a comedian I think he has done ok.
We all know why they went after Russell Brand in 2023 and not 2014 or during the me too movement in 2017. He wasn't challenging the system then
Frostrup thinks she can call him a sex predator because he called himself that. Since when does calling yourself something make you that thing? If he had said he was a Martian, would she believe that as well? Russell Brand is a comedian who often talks in a flippant, tongue in cheek style, and to dig through everything he has ever said now is ridiculous. But most of us know WHY this happening.
These panelists are so out of touch. They have fully embarrassed themselves. Especially disappointed in Murray. He should know better.
yes, I'm shocked that Douglas just called Russ a conspiracy theorist.
I used to respect Murray. I got the impression he lost integrity a while ago
Murray dropped the ball big time on this. In times of crisis, people do reveal themselves. You can see the hatred oozing from him.
The thing is, Murray isn’t a misogynist. Neither are Morgan (at the moment) or Peston.
A lot of men are glad a man got that much ‘fresh c**t’ and vicariously wish him well in the vein hope they could be so successful.
@@chidimarvels And perhaps jealousy ?
If Russell Brand had only 600 TH-cam subscribers he would have been left alone.
6 million which is 5.5 M more than this channel 😂lol #stayfree #istandwithBrand
And these slags looking for money .
It is amazing because I have come across so many damn predators.. bosses who forcibly tried to have sex with me.. harassed me.. and years of crap.. but because they aren’t famous nobody knows about these creeps but they are EVERYWHERE.. BUT, I suppose shedding light on what’s going on even if famous people are the ones in the spotlight, it makes it easier for VICTIMS EVERYWHERE to say something even though it won’t be front page news.. it sheds a light on CREEPS LIKE BRAND.. which he absolutely is.. so I suppose SHOWING THE WORLD WHATS going on might be a good thing and give victims some hope..
Douglas Murray throws away half his fanbase in one smug interview.
Definitely not! Well done Murray for being the voice of reason yet again.
Douglas has gone overboard here. Yes Russell’s behaviour during his youth and addiction was seriously questionable, but he’s matured and settled down.
He speaks on issues that other people are afraid to mention.
If he’s guilty then yes by all means punish him, but don’t throw him under the bus just yet.
Jalous of Brands success. almost suspiciously so..
Btw Pierscseems to never heard of boasting or joking.
Douglas is a dishonest psychopath who will seek to take down any who object to his insane political project of constant war.
It's hilarious that they claim that Russell Brand is irrelevant but they cover this story 24/7 in every news media. Russel is one of the most influential voices in media today.
This ☝️
Good call
Brand? an uncouth fellow.
Which makes him mainstream. Can't you see the irony?
😂exactly
They convicted Johnny Depp before his trial and look how that turned out....😊
he had more money for lawyers :)
He was in the right and that lying something wasn't, and that's what came to light in court.
DEPP is WEF
What's that got to do with this case?
@@therealdrbyte and a satanist.
feels like men are now getting punished for decisions women made decades ago but are now embarrassed that they made those decisions so they seek some redemption.
If you ask a joking question, don’t assume the answer is totally serious especially from a comedian.
"Famous , but not a big talent" fits a lot of people, I'm looking at you Piers.
Yep! Never got him at all.
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TREMENDOUS comment
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Douglas Murray is hardly Oscar Wilde…….
Really disappointed at Douglas Murray on this - he clearly hasn't been watching Brand for the last few years. Gross though Brand's past has been, I think he's a changed man, and his political analysis has become astute and well worth hearing.
He is just jealous but he is going to annoy his own audience on the right by trying to ostracise one of our own.
What's gross about his past?
Maybe his opinion is just different than yours. I’ve never thought Brand was an intellectual figure, but that’s my opinion, and this is a talk show; talking includes opinions.
Agreed. Their common friend, Jordan Peterson, needs to school Murray on how much of an important talent Russell Brand really is.
Ultimately Murray while having a lot of good takes and clearly being witty/educated, he does have some notable prejudices. I came aware of this from his coverage and opinions on Irish history which while fairly balanced in places over time became very loyalist. He's anti woke sure but he's also very pro establishment. Also Russell Brand is not "right wing", again even watching one video would make that obvious
One thing thats clear is this entire panel is not really mad at Russel for his past... its his present. He's had more media success than they could ever have regardless of the fact that he is relatively new in the field. They are a bitter lot
The problem with that women is she's comparing how the times were back in the early 2000s to todays times.. now everyone is offended and you can't say nothing, while back then people knew what a joke, sarcasm & banter was.
It's not about how good or bad he was, It's about the way the whole MSM collectively are trying to shut him up. Something he has said has hit the bull's eye.
Covid, Pfizer, Biden, Maui..... take your pick. He will always point out the red flags and he has over 6M followers now. He fully admitted to being a drug user and sex addict, and no doubt did terrible things. These msm mouthpieces hate him, that is clear.
Because we are sick of these entitled predators
Didn't he call Farage a "pound shop Enoch Powell" when he was a lefty a few years ago?
Supposing it was your 16 year old daughter he was dating?
@@stephenclarke2206 The 16 year old’s mother drove her to Russel’s place. Go figure.
The panel just described the behaviors of every rap artist that's existed since the 1980s.
90s, 2000s, 10s, and 20s. Pearl clutching hypocrites, the lot of them!
But they are a minority… soo
Every rap artist should he banned from every TH-cam channel if we are consistent
Not to mention rock & roll or punk. Why hasn't someone investigated the million women of Mick Jagger if Brits are so MeToo about past events.
Black people live rent free in your head 😒
Russel brand has more talent in his little finger than all of the pratts talking about him
"He's famous, but not a big talent". Sums up Douglas Murray precisely.
He's innocent until proven guilty! All these hit- pieces don't do the MSM any favors.
No he is innocent and proven guilty by the msm because women said so
He used to crawl toilets for sex and drugs in the 90's.... he may have changed BUT when he kissed that eugenicist Harari who wants us "useless eaters" to be culled, I lost all respect for him...
That is only for the courts. People are free to think what we want: re sexual offenders.
his own words speak for themselves
Like Bill Clinton. Is Clinton innocent until proven guilty?
Clinton's victims were never going to have a chance. At least Brand's victims might have a chance.
Whether or not you like Brand or not isn't the issue. The issue is whether he's guilty of unprovable historic crimes.
Why are they unprovable?
@freebornjohn2687 how can you prove the rape? You can't.
@@glennseaward3050 a judge can
Are you saying Harvey Weinstein is innocent……..his crimes were historical.
@@ChuckMarteau A judge can convict him, but can't prove the rape.
Yes Brand was creepy, but the allegations are very inconsistent and the media outlets should be directing victims to the police. This is a criminal case. Let lawyers decide. A lot of what has been written could have been falsified and the women accusing him were voiced by actors.
I don’t know who or what gave these panelists the power to categorise what should be joked about or how one’s imagination can run wild in their books 😢
I am a fan of Douglas Murray, but this is a prime example of political “group think” taking precedent over common sense. What on earth makes him think Brand wants to write for the Telegraph? 😂
The facts that have come out are not good and these facts come straight from BRAND.. so it’s not an opinion or can be misinterpreted.. People inside who have spoken to others already know how disgusting BRAND IS.. In 2013 DANNY MINOGUE interviewed BRAND and even just interviewing BRAND.. she described him after as a VILE PREDATOR because of the way he treated her.. DURING AN INTERVIEW which is pretty bad.. and Danny isn’t a drama Queen or someone who jumps on this crap.. so it must have been serious. Douglas KNOWS MORE than he can say.. and he has integrity and is a good dude.. and predators are DISGUSTING..
Lost all respect for Murray after hearing him yap on this video. What an absolute plum.
You've misunderstood the point he was making. He was saying that unlike The Guardian and The New Statesman and other openly left-wing media outlets who enthusiastically embraced Brand in the 00s as a sexually liberated counter-cultural icon, Brand has never received a welcome in right-wing media circles to the same degree, and he contrasted it with the consistent unwillingness of major conservative newspapers to go near him.
He was pointing out the lack of responsibility that is being taken by the same media outlets who helped promote his profile and inflate his ego a decade ago now turning round and saying how shocking it all is now the allegations have come out. Whether they like it or not they may very well end up being proven partial to a modern day Savile-like scandal with Brand, turning a blind-eye to his failings because he was "one of them", and the chickens are now coming home to roost.
Murray is a great writer and thinker, but he's missed the point entirely re: Brand's whole positioning. Russell has been an anti-establishment voice within independent journalism for a number of years now; his whole appeal centres around being considerably less partisan to the media behemoth. Therefore, why on earth would an establishment paper like the Telegraph want him writing for them? And why would he choose to write for them?
I see this again as a battle between the dying legacy media (of which Piers is one-foot-in, one-foot-out) and independent voices, which are always going to pose a threat to more curated forms of media that serve a particular narrative or political agenda. The more these independent voices grow in popularity, the bigger the existential threat to old-time legacy media, and the greater the incentive the latter have for squashing such voices.
The media machine cannot tolerate decentralisation; it runs counter to its entire raison-d'être. But decentralisation is the inevitable future. There is no conceivable way in which things could turn out differently.
Yep, first time I have heard Murray being petty. Sounds like he has a bee in his bonnet.
Nothing like piling in on someone when they cannot defend themselves.
Well done all of you.
That woman is disgusting
Yeah, not a fan, but all this bs without a trial is pretty messed up and it seems the text from the documentary is actually about wearing a condom rather than r*pe.
Always the way.
Yes. Russell is the real victim in all of this. 😢
Yes, all of them will say anything against someone else, as long as their paychecks keep coming! Slimeballs!
"He's not a big talent, he's attempted to break Hollywood some years ago"... he left Hollywood because of the place that it is because he was getting clean and sober.
But thank you for the expertise on talent. Plus talent is something you have,not something you are.
You can't judge people's past with modern standards. It's simply unfair and stupid.
Except when it comes to rape.
@@pronoun_dilemma Stop the hypocrisy. This is something that could send most nations of the world back to the middle ages of absolute government power. If the government can pay anyone in someone's past to say consensual sex was not and get the person defamed, it's game over for activists, political opponents and more. The Western nation have already corrupted the culture of most nations with free sex and promiscuity, so it's going to be easy to get people to falsely accuse and get paid. It's a dangerous practice for the world at large. If nations with a corrupt press catch up with this game then it's over for humanity. Thats why people should be left and encouraged to seek veagence, not coerced into doing so. Human beings can easily abuse anything and turn a good cause into a political weapon. So, it's common sense to have limitations that prevent it. Stop thinking with your heart. Use your brain. If you're a woman, be certain that it'll get to you too at some point. So stop being selfish.
@@pronoun_dilemma Try to understand my point. Many things classified as being confident and flirtatious then, are now considered as crimes or assault. You can't judge the past with modern standards. It's simply stupid. Just imagine if age of consent is raised to 25 tommorrow, then people that had consensual sex 10 years ago start coming out. Will that make sense and be fair? No. Any adult with a brain knows that many things Brand did that is now reported as inappropriate were ok then and even put on tv. His books were published without a problem. Don't be a hypocrite.
@@Noob-zi2ce I understand your point. Not sure why you explained it as a reply to my comment where I only mentioned rape. It comes across like you're defending rape.
"many things Brand did that is now reported as inappropriate were ok then and even put on tv"
Many, but not all???
@@pronoun_dilemma I should be the one asking you why you put rape below my comment if you're not pre judging that Brand did that. That clearly didn't show up in my comment because there's no evidence that he forced or coerced anyone into sex. I was just telling you about the hypocrisy of the media....and of course the definition of rape have never been the same go and check. I believe most laws have updated their definition of rape. For example we have some nations where a woman can't be indicted for rape, such laws have might been updated to include women.Thats why women that sleep with underage boys are often given a slap on the wrist...I believe some nation haven't done it. Some nations may also change age of consent. That change in itself would make many people criminals if the application of that law is back dated. What I'm saying is pretty easy to get.
Anyone who tries to police what other people should say or make jokes about is the REAL danger in society
Agreed
You ought to exercise restraint when you're a public figure; you can't just joke about anything when you have millions of people following you.
@@yohighness But you shouldn't go to jail for what you say and you know i am right .
@@michaeldooley5398agreed 👍🏼
@@yohighnessyes you can, it's called comedy
He shouldn’t be cancelled because nothing has been proven and he’s innocent until proven guilty.
By that logic OJ simpson should still be getting endorsement deals.
I'm not saying Russel is guilty or innocent but the justice system isn't flawless abd sometimes society has to react to it
Russell is being targeted by the cancel culture and by the comments you can tell who is on board with it.
THIS is the beast that he and all other Leftists UNLEASHED. Now he gets to TASTE it for himself ! ...KARMA !
The justice system and public opinion are two different things
Rpsts aren’t innocent, whether or not they’ve been convicted.
What has changed is our understanding of what consent actually means. Years ago, the old joke was, "no means yes"; no self respecting young woman would tarnish her reputation and immediately capitulate to a male's sexual advances, so the man had to persevere in order to demonstrate his sincere desire to be with the woman. Somewhere in the midst of that often silent, complex transaction, the young lady maintained a certain virtue by not being easy, and the man, in persevering, signalled that he sought more than mere congress with the lady. The fact is, neither man nor woman knew exactly what signals they were meant to respond to. Though it's now easy to say consent must be overtly specified or declared by the woman (in heterosexual relations), most young people aren't drawing up an agreement when, after a night at a club or bar, they find themselves together. To suggest that consent can be given but also retracted at any time during an often intensely primal, clumsy ritual, and that it will be clearly understood by both parties, seems naive.
He is a bigger talent than all these muppets. More loved, respected and trusted.
I'm disappointed by Douglas Murray. I used to respect his opinion but the fact he blows things off and labels everything as a "conspiracy" is just lazy.
Agreed. For years Brand expertly unpicked the lies around medically tyranny and Murray picks an example about lasers. Clumsy, lazy take.
Agree
I thought the same! Russell is very talented and eloquent!
He is usually non bias and respectful. He attacked Brand's career straight away.
An "uncensored" debate with 4 people agreeing to destroy a man without any evidence
Piers isnt
Indeed, and they're not staying on topic, they're using this as a platform to attack everything about him.
@@CustardSpace There is a huge difference between charges and accusations. Last I checked, he wasn't charged. Be careful to know what you're talking about.
It’s not a debate.
@@CustardSpaceas you said above "to bring forth these charges" , "charges" not "accusations". are you a journalist or politician 😂. oh, and lastly you did not use the word "huge" never mind the word "huge" in bold. your lack of credibility is palpable...
All i know is that the timing of all of this is VERY suspicious. Russel never lied about his past ways so if it wasnt an issue than why is it an issue now ? that he is doing something good for society ,he is married and no longer an addict ....Anyway we knew this was going to happen, being against any massive coorporation, institution or agenda gets you easily tarnished or killed nowdays...
Great to see the course of action for alleged victims is to now get a documentary, nevermind due process and requirement of substantiated evidence.
Just like they did to Michael Jackson
It’s odd that these allegations weren’t brought up during the #MeToo campaign if Russell Brand has been acting this way since the early 2000s. Why now? Why did the media stay quiet until now?
Very good question that needs to be answered ASAP.
We all know the answer
cos during the metoo society was still expecting the bare minimum, like that someone who is making a serious accusation would do it publicly or at least would do it legally to police first , but not anymore, now it goes like "channel 4 says 1000 anonymous ppl have accused u of rape; guilty."
Innocent until proven guilty!!! Give this man a fair trial !!
Exactly
'I'm not an expert on Russell Brand'. So why are you so sure that he is a sex predator then? These guys are so up their own arses, it's insane.
There are credible accusations against him.
@@sc00bydoo10 thoughtful people
@@sc00bydoo10 ANYONE who's not a blind fan of Russell !
@@sc00bydoo10 That's true - and there's a lot of reason to believe he is guilty - but of course it hasn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt - at least not yet.
Did you hear what he wrote in his book? she read it out!
I'm genuinely shocked at Murray's absolute ignorance of Brand's show. He's a far-right conspiracy theorist? Good God. As a man who is himself often attacked and labelled by people who base their opinions off out-of-context clips and hit-pieces, you think Murray would have some shame about doing the same.
"Is trial by media fair?"
- 4 people in the media putting him on trial
She says “I’m not an expert on Russell Brand…”
Well, you seem to be going out of way to prove otherwise.
My advice to you all is leave it to a court.
If he has done anything wrong , let them decide.
Then you can pile in.
Has this country forgotten what slander means?
I wouldn’t trust courts to decide anything. Have you been paying attention?
Glad you said that! I actually consider myself an Expert on Russell Brand. P.S. I seeing, right here, an ad with 2 men talking about 'ball hair." I find that offensive. Others will laugh and call it hilarious - hey if it is making money - let's face it - anything goes. Money is the evil, Not Russell Brand.
@tokenspirit1548 🤔🤣 the advert algorithm is quite something.
Also interesting that there’s no mention of him being an alcoholic and heroine addict during that time period. When it’s Hunter Biden’s bad behavior they can’t remind us enough times that he was “struggling with addiction” to excuse bad behavior.
Like Greenwood's case?
I want to know why all these media outlets don’t give the same amount of air time to all the girls and women who are trafficked. The MSM only slammed The Sound of Freedom rather than digging deeper into the problems. Our society is obsessively focused on what a celebrity does. I guess it must be better for clicks.
what are the chances that the big bosses from the MSM outlets are regular customers of those trafficked girls ..and boys?
Not just girls and women are trafficked.
Males are too, and they're used for organ harvesting.
Everyone absolutely needs to see "SOUND OF FREEDOM "
The traffickers are right wing people like Tate, and Brand the right wing are protecting them.
Best comment 🎉
100% agree
Brand has been doing actual journalism for the last 3 years. He's popular because he's showing the receipts. If mainstream "journalists' started doing some journalism, Brand wouldn't need to.
I have never been a Russell Brand fan, however, admit that it would be totally ridiculous if he is indeed innocent of these horrific claims in the media.
What a bunch of vultures we have here against Brand.
If he did what has been claimed, he should pay but these people dig up all they can to support their agenda.
Yep they do, that is usually what happens in court too. A person's character and past behaviour always come in, it helps the prosecution prove their case. If there was nothing there in the first place, nobody would be able to dig up anything to use against him, would they?
And, all need to read what the accusations are. Kim Iverson gives a broad review of these accusations.
He certainly made it easy for them.
60MINUTED Australia is a good example of Russell Brand's behaviour.
@mariahewitt9787 thanks so I'll watch that
This world
is confusing these days, all this posturing about Russell Brand’s moral character while simultaneously giving platforms to men dressed as provocative women reading to kids about performing sexual acts. It’s messed up
Channel 4 has a tv show where you choose your date based on there genitals. Its called naked attraction. However they claim Brand in his underpants is inappropriate
💯‼️
Well said 👏
Great comment. we live in one f@cked up world
@@brettharter143facts
It's funny they call him conspiracy theorists when he uses sources from "mainstream media"
Why did C4 once they had concluded their journalistic investigations not take it straight to the police ?...you find a body in the forest you dont go to the MSM first you go to the police
Cherry picking things Russel Brand has said or done 15 years after the time and completely undermining and neglecting everything he’s been doing and saying for the past few years is pathetic. Shame on these people.
Guilty until proven innocent is a bad policy, but we’ve seen this nonsense for years now, just as we’ve seen the attack on comedians and independent journalists. It’s nothing new, it just convinces me that Brand has touched too many establishment nerves and now they’re trying to make him pay the price
Well, the only problem is that every political side does it and has been doing it forever. I doubt it will stop anytime soon. The same people that say it is bad will turn around and do the same thing to the people they dislike in another comment section
The accusations are not from the past few years though, they are from the time he was saying all that stuff.
If Piers asked what he stated was a "joke question", then why does he consider that the reply was anything more than a joke too. You can't have your cake and eat it. You can't ask somebody a joke question - then damn them with what may very well be a facetious response to that question.
I mean, for what it's worth I think it WAS an honest reply from RB but, your point still stands true
Not Sure, i am not a fan and never found him funny but if you watched him on the tele back in the day and even now he is very quick to wit and could have easily been joking or even digging at the question asked by him@@flammenjc
@@flammenjc debatable. he is a comedian, when someone walks up to you and insults you the quick witted will turn it around and diffuse it over getting offended which runs the risk of disarming you and fresh for the attack...
Even if it was an honest reply, there's nothing actually wrong with his reply is there? The use it like it's incriminating but of what? Having sex with people?!
The joke is on Morgan and Murray! When do they defend women or oppose rape culture?? Absolute hypocrites.
I mean, we all knew what Russell Brand was like because he told us, it takes 2 to tango and all these people are talking as though he's been found guilty in a trial?
What strikes me is the way people in the media call it " an open secret " surely that is an oxymoron, there is no such thing it is either open or a secret, not both. Whatever happened to inoccent until proven guilty, all this media speculation means there can no longer be a fair trial, which is unfair for all parties involved.
Douglas normally the smart guy straight off losing credibility by calling Russell a conspiracy theorist...🤦🏼
@@jrenemay3604 I am! I had no idea. Damn, I'm disappointed if this is true. Politics aside, how can you say that Brand has no talent? Wether you like him or not you need to admit he is one of the best communicator out there. Nevermind charisma.
Quite uninformed, conspiracy theorist is definately not Russel.
Sexism is not rape.
We have have rockn and pop stars who have behaved like Russel and they have become Lords.
The same media whon have for years suppressed reporting Pakistan men grooming, sex slaving and raping young white girls. Where are the documentaries on this.
She’s completely forgetting he’s a comedian and based his entire career on this character he created.
No she didn’t forget, she was intentionally quoting them out of the context.
That wasn't a character it was his real life he was talking about, hopefully evidence
There is absolutely nothing funny about what he says about women
@@JaneA544the comedy is in the pompous highfalutin way he dresses up his sordid behaviour and general degeneracy. It doesn’t excuse his behaviour but he IS funny and witty with an uncommon facility with language, sorry but it’s true. Simultaneously he can also be terrible human being. He may even have genuinely changed..I don’t know
@@JaneA544as if no guy ever talks like that lol…. Lets face it, women want to be with famous men. It s always been the case, and everyone is acting shocked when this is said out loud
Piers, Why aren’t you inviting Brand on your show? Shouldn’t he have the right to defend himself???
It's interesting that it only takes 7 minutes before they start talking about his "platform" to share "absurd ideas". So this IS about shutting down his message then? It doesn't seem very clear now.
Am I the only one who's shocked by Douglas Murray's words about Russel Brand?
Yes you are Douglas Murray is a complete 🤡
I would have been shocked but Douglas has changed.
Murray has become even more MSM than he used to be.
He has changed; and I also believe that Russell Brand Is being cancelled and de-platformed on account of his views because they go against the narrative. Can't have this guy proffering alternative viewpoints especially If he might have a sizeable audience.
I was thinking the same thing
He's a player like a lot of men, but more honest than most! Until he is in court with evidence, I will still support him.
Exactly!
He has apologized for his past excesses and is married with three children.
ITs a crime to be a player now.
Marriella seems to have a pretty Victorian attitude towards sex.
Any one who is not a perfect gentleman is a rapist in her mind.
tbh he was a lord Byron lothario wannabe, who had a failed movie career and failed marriage to a real celebrity. Then reappeared a bit greyer as an extreme right wing weirdo. Years later all his promiscuity and sexual assaults (some of which is on camera) came back to bite him in the arse. Karma is a bitch its true.
Jordan Peterson needs to school Douglas Murray on how talented Russell Brand really is...
I thought better of Douglas Murray, i wont go 180 on him but its still a bit of a shock that he cannot see the hitjob here without due process. Just another nail in the coffin to the west
He is much much bigger talent then both of these guys combined
And its obvious they are coming after him for the things he has been openly saying on his podcast
Yeah. Questioning the narratives on COVID and Ukraine, and calling out pharma and political corruption is getting awfully dangerous.
To be realistic - they've been 'coming after' this story for 4 years. Since he was a revolutionary socialist.
The UK Parliament sent letters to TH-cam and Rumble (possibly to other platforms and content creators) suggesting them in certain terms to de-platform and de-monetize Russell Brand. All that based on mere allegations. This is highly unethical. The UK Parliament behaves like a gangster, mafia-style attack. We need to question how this happens, not only why. Russell Brand is INNOCENT until proven guilty by a court of law, and anyone treating him otherwise is unethical and unprofessional.
A committee chair not parliament. Doesn't make it right but let's be accurate
I believe the correct term for the direction ALL OF WESTERN CULTURE is heading towards is fascism. Well, not heading towards, we're already there.
Until they’re brought directly to the police they’re not even proper allegations!!
I thought Murray was ok, clearly I was wrong, he said nothing of substance and just cried about him not being a talent, what a child.
Douglas Murray is quickly turning into another Sam Harris. Someone I used to follow and deeply respect to just getting all the big issues wrong.
"He no agree with me. Me no like him"
@@mdaddy775I don’t believe you read very well. I love Douglas Murray, but if he’s getting many of the big issues wrong I’m going to lose respect for him. Doesn’t suggest for a second I don’t like him.
@@4yaears That is a fine comedic line from me but I accept that I shouldn't have used it on you. Apologies.
I do find it galling that anyone would love and deeply respect someone like Douglas who seemingly exists only to go on TV and beat the same anti-Muslim, anti-trans, anti-left drum and who also frequently resorts to throwing petty insults at his debate opponents.
@@mdaddy775 I haven’t really seen him insult people unless they attack him first and normally only when the other person is acting in bad faith. He’s certainly never been anti-Muslim. You are conflating criticism of Islam with criticism of Muslims as people. And you can’t be a conservative or on the right without being anti-left. As far as trannies are concerned, we believe in live and let live, but they insist on interfering with our kids, schools, sports, the law, and changing the words and definitions we use.
@@4yaears Douglas is fortunate to have fans with such selective memory!
Why are grooming gangs left alone and young girls not believed? Let’s talk about that.
I disliked Brand back in the day and just ignored him. His recent work however feels like the kind of thing we need more of, and that crucially, the MSM isn't doing
Not really. It’s the laziest sort of redundant contrarian take he had. He was basically a palatable version of Alex jones
the MSM isnt doing it cos they are working for the ones who want this info hidden
We don't need more poorly researched clickbait conspiracy populism. I actually have a lot of respect for douglas murray for calling a spade a spade, even though we sit on different sides of the isle.
@@brandonblop you look pretty as you sleep
What i find quite amusing is how channel 4 a tv company that broadcasts such trash as " big brother" and " naked attraction" has suddenly taken the moral high ground and attacked brand for his indecent lifestyle and behavior, ever so slightly hypocritical.
This is an offical execution of a mans character, without any evidence. Disgusting behaviour of these "journalists"
To be a casanova is not a crime. Nor is sexual addition.
* Addiction.
Russell has more talent and integrity than all of these fake “moral” talking heads here . We see through this thank fully!!
oh yeah, sexual predators have alot of integrity.
@@comment1ism866 when he was a sex and drug addict he was never called a sexual predator .. he only is one now as he has spoken against the narrative.. wake up!
Brand is a million dollar cry baby. Poor him, boo hoo. Spreads ridiculous content. He is no victim here.
@@comment1ism866 and clearly more than you.
@@comment1ism866I don't know if he was one, what is sure is that he is not now.
I’m shocked that Douglass Murray is slagging off Brand, when he has spent the last three years pointing out the exact same issues as Murray does in his books!! 🤷🏻
Yet Brand's investigative journalism is about 10 years ahead of Murray..
id never thought that the issues they point out are particularly similar. Brand is more apolitcal than murray, no?
But clearly, Brand does it with more style. Murray’s just an opportunist using this time to stick the knife in while he can.
Brand is a million dollar cry baby. Poor him, boo hoo. Spreads ridiculous content. He is no victim here.
@@angelrojo6466 What a stupid comment 😭
Musk nailed it, Brand had been criticising big pharma, Black Rock, the MIC et al. Shades of Julian Assange here. A narcissist like Brand is an easy target.
Douglas does channel a bit of envy in the way he tries to paint RB as a failure without being asked.
Yes, that dripped of petty bitterness. First time I saw Douglas Murray sans his usual integrity.. Eye opening, I may have had him wrong sadly.
What is this false moral outrage and hand wringing - its shocking how they are talking about him like he's been convicted😂
These 4 telentless vultures salary depend on it LOL they couldn't make a living without the UK government's handouts, and a few oligarchs ; All of which get theirs from Ukkrraine and from the plaandeemic ; In that sense, they are fighting Brand to protect their owner's revenues and their salaries. Almost natural LOL MSM media must go away, and no more public funding.
We should stop supporting piers because he is part of the problem as well
@@christopherwilliams2852Here we go, the cancelling…….there would be no one left if you stop supporting someone every time they offend you. Times change attitudes.
@@Grace-tc1lq Dishonesty is Cancellable. Honestly.
It's so weird. People are so weird. Dumb drones.
Love how passionate the panelist are with regards to allegations towards RB, yet show little to no interest in a certain deceased philanthropist and an island list.
Isnt there a very famous BBC commentator that like groomed and raped a young boy? Have hardly heard a word about that. These people are all morally superior like we cant see what is really happening. The people are not as stupid as they think we are. Whoever is left that trusts any MSM is lost and/or has been living under a rock. This is ridiculous.
Exactly
Is he deceased thou?
@@miniman612all the unnamed power players from the gislaine Maxwell case aren't. Media pretty silent on that.
I love how passionate the so called Conservatives are with regards to the island list, yet show little to no interest in the fact that Russel Brand, while he was 31 years old, waited for the 16 year old girl to finish classes in school so they can have sex afterwards.
I love how all assets get exposed when the establishment think they are on a win.
Heaven forbid he spat in the mouth of some gross woman who slapped him!
The nerve of that man. To defend himself without physically harming her!
These people were fine with Russel Brand 4 days ago. Now they're all outraged at his behaviour on TV and his book. I wonder why they never made their feelings about him clear before last week!
So true, they make me laugh, honestly...
It's wild how hard they're trying to take this guy down. Also if Russel Brand isn't a talent, what does that make Douglas Murray?
Im a huge fan of Murray, and hitherto not a fan of Brand. But Brand has impressed me in the last year or so. A very strange time to come up with these allegations.
Well said. Brand does talks, offers opinions and writes books. And he has a unique style in doing it. What makes Douglas talented if Brand isn't?
disappointed in murray here tbh
@LiamHerriot And David Icke was summarily cancelled long before we had the opportunity to question it. With David, they just made out he was mad, for Brand they are using his promiscuity.
Murray disappointed me a bit here
Once again Piers shows himself to be a sensationalist serpent with no scruples
Douglas Murray, who written "The War on The West", "The Strange Death of Europe" dares to call Brand far-right conspiracy theorist. It's beyond real. Just a reminder that Murray's stance on mass immigration, islam, trans/ LGBT+ issues is by many considered as far-right. It's quite clear now that far-right these days are those, who criticise relationship between MSM, big tech, pharma and polictics.
'One other thing that we need to look at..' the fact he isn't proven guilty yet!
Only Hunter Biden can be innocent. Both Trump and Russel are guilty before anything even happened.
The media has already judged him because he dropped socialism and began voicing right wing / conservative views.
Piers is bashing RB while at the same time acting like he's impartial. Until he's convicted of a crime none of this means sh** to me, just another day of people in power trying to silence an opposing voice.
Should have been ‘silenced’ a decade ago. He’s guilty af.
And how many do the same when it isnt a lefty on the hook ?
@@tethergobrrrwhat he finger you too
Piers is two faced
Mr. Morgan is salivating over the clicks and views this is getting him.
Apparently *that* is what is called good journalism nowadays.
Douglas seemed more interested to attack Russell's political podcasts, career, talent than to say anything rational on the accusations made.
There are many who think Russell Brand is clever as well as talented