Dude thanks! I have a 20" bosphorus that I got about 12 years ago for my main jazz ride. It sounds great and I used one of those promark rattlers for years to get a sizzle sound but it just wasn't the same as having rivets. Today with the help of my dad, who is much handier than me, and your instructions from this great video, we were able to successfully install 2 rivets on that cymbal. Sounds even better now, with that classic Elvin and Art vibe! thumbs up man!
Hey Jules.. don't you think it's safer drilling from the bottom of the cymbal since you can rest it against a woodblock or something? I've never seen anyone drill from the top. But I guess whatever works!
6:44 I secured some rivets by simply "pinching" a straight crease into them near the bottom edge with a pair of my favorite Knipex brand wire cutters (pinched a line parallel to the cymbal). Believe it or not, I did this for Bryan St Pere of HUM back in the 90's. A drill press would have been nice but I managed to use a hand drill with out f'n anything up :) Here's a copy of my "HUM/cymbal" related comment from last year: One of many fond memories: Bryan came to me at work one day and asked if I could add some rivets to one of his cymbals for a "sizzle" experiment. I was not aware that this was even a "thing" ...but after he explained what he wanted to achieve I wasn't about to say no (I was a huge fan and HUM was about to go on TV). We were both pretty nervous about me potentially "trashing" the cymbal ...but after successfully drilling out some clean and evenly spaced holes we were able to relax. I came up with my own stylish technique of securing the rivets and Bryan was stoked! It was a high-five moment. Love you man!
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Hei guys. I have never drilled a cymbal, but I've drilled sheet metal. Wouldn't it be safer to drill from the cymbal's bottom side to avoid it springing back once the whole is finished?! I guess it would even prevent cracking the cymbal since the material isn't being stresses and deformed as much... Nice video! Thanks
That’s my exact reasoning, Ben. Thanks for your input. Emanuel, if you are worried about the deformation, you can use a piece of wood under the cymbal to support the curvature.
ive seen a couple of your videos now and especially with the release of this one i feel obligated to ask, why do you put rivets in your cymbals? dont sizzlers accomplish the same thing with the bonus of not possibly ruining a cymbal or just being able to switch between sounds?
I can’t speak for him but I’ve found sizzlers just aren’t quite the same sound as a rivet and can be a bit overbearing compared to a rivet. But it is true a rivet is more of a permanent decision
Yeah, sizzlers are a surprisingly different sound! When you crash a cymbal especially, the sizzler just bounces/rattles around, rather than sizzling like rivets would. Rivets are much more consistent, and I personally like the sound of them much more. It also annoys me that the sizzler lays right where you play the cymbal, it’s always in the way for me lol
@@JulianArcher I've been around the used cymbal market for a very long time and here a modified cymbal significantly devalues it. That's why I just use a chain when I was the rivet-like effect. I care too much of my 24" Sweet Ride to drill holes in it- but I'll reward you on your bravery to dare doing that to your cymbals. Big cheers man.
Dude thanks! I have a 20" bosphorus that I got about 12 years ago for my main jazz ride. It sounds great and I used one of those promark rattlers for years to get a sizzle sound but it just wasn't the same as having rivets. Today with the help of my dad, who is much handier than me, and your instructions from this great video, we were able to successfully install 2 rivets on that cymbal. Sounds even better now, with that classic Elvin and Art vibe! thumbs up man!
My man we need more videos!! All of your videos are pure quality and gold!
Thanks so much Raúl! Was taking a break after finishing college, but I’m back now!
Hey Jules.. don't you think it's safer drilling from the bottom of the cymbal since you can rest it against a woodblock or something? I've never seen anyone drill from the top. But I guess whatever works!
6:44 I secured some rivets by simply "pinching" a straight crease into them near the bottom edge with a pair of my favorite Knipex brand wire cutters (pinched a line parallel to the cymbal). Believe it or not, I did this for Bryan St Pere of HUM back in the 90's. A drill press would have been nice but I managed to use a hand drill with out f'n anything up :) Here's a copy of my "HUM/cymbal" related comment from last year:
One of many fond memories: Bryan came to me at work one day and asked if I could add some rivets to one of his cymbals for a "sizzle" experiment. I was not aware that this was even a "thing" ...but after he explained what he wanted to achieve I wasn't about to say no (I was a huge fan and HUM was about to go on TV). We were both pretty nervous about me potentially "trashing" the cymbal ...but after successfully drilling out some clean and evenly spaced holes we were able to relax. I came up with my own stylish technique of securing the rivets and Bryan was stoked! It was a high-five moment. Love you man!
great Video!!! I have been binging your vids recently cause they are so Interesting!!!
Thanks so much!! Really appreciate the support :)
you all prolly dont give a damn but does anyone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly lost the login password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me!
@Marcellus Eli instablaster =)
I have a 20" K Custom Dark Ride so this was awesome to hear what it sounds like with rivets!
That Paiste has gotta be one of the best rides I’ve ever heard, with or without rivets.
I’ll have to send this to Gabe!!
Hei guys. I have never drilled a cymbal, but I've drilled sheet metal. Wouldn't it be safer to drill from the cymbal's bottom side to avoid it springing back once the whole is finished?! I guess it would even prevent cracking the cymbal since the material isn't being stresses and deformed as much... Nice video! Thanks
It probably would. Although, the side making contact with the rivet head would be probably be uneven.
That’s my exact reasoning, Ben. Thanks for your input. Emanuel, if you are worried about the deformation, you can use a piece of wood under the cymbal to support the curvature.
How do you open the Zyldjian rivets which don't spread in half when using a screwdriver ?
ive seen a couple of your videos now and especially with the release of this one i feel obligated to ask, why do you put rivets in your cymbals? dont sizzlers accomplish the same thing with the bonus of not possibly ruining a cymbal or just being able to switch between sounds?
I can’t speak for him but I’ve found sizzlers just aren’t quite the same sound as a rivet and can be a bit overbearing compared to a rivet. But it is true a rivet is more of a permanent decision
Yeah, sizzlers are a surprisingly different sound! When you crash a cymbal especially, the sizzler just bounces/rattles around, rather than sizzling like rivets would. Rivets are much more consistent, and I personally like the sound of them much more. It also annoys me that the sizzler lays right where you play the cymbal, it’s always in the way for me lol
Also, rivets are easy to take out, and the rivet holes don’t effect the resale price of the cymbal :)
Nice. More videos please
Will do, thanks JD!
Thanks for havin me bro
Thanks for hanging my man! Had a blast!
How do you remove it?
You just push the two sides of the rivet back together, and it’ll slide out. No reversing the hole you drilled however.
Great video, thank you!
But c'mon, 9/64th?! Wtf?! :D Imperial is just bonkers useless!
I know man, lmao!
You have to have some serious balls to dare drilling in to a +500 dollar cymbal. Seriously. I don't get it how you can comfortably do it.
Lol its hard to stomach, but if you do it correctly, it won't effect the value of the cymbal!
@@JulianArcher I've been around the used cymbal market for a very long time and here a modified cymbal significantly devalues it. That's why I just use a chain when I was the rivet-like effect. I care too much of my 24" Sweet Ride to drill holes in it- but I'll reward you on your bravery to dare doing that to your cymbals. Big cheers man.
@@MechaAkuma Interesting, definitely not the case in SF, Denver, or NY. Either way, definitely a scary thing haha. Thanks man!
@@MechaAkuma are you really planning on ever selling it tho?
Watching this in mid 2023 seeing those masks makes me cringe....