I’m glad you’re talking about this. Almost no drummer knows they can repair cymbals. But i was surprise how much material you take off! I usealy take out a little only in straight lines if i can.
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I used this method (learned from the video) to repair a ride cymbal that I bought used off craigslist. I purchased the cymbal specifically because its a great jazz ride that normally sells for very expensive but which was priced very low because it had a crack that was about 2.5 inches long running from the edge to end of the crack. This method worked beautifully and rounding (softening) the edges of the cut made this a very functional repair. I now have a great cymbal that I otherwise would not afford at this time. The tone is excellent and this sort of repair does not seem to dampen the cymbal significantly or at all. Thanks!
Thanks, unfortunately had to do this today. It doesn't so much affect the pitch but definitely the sustain. But it's either that or the crack continues and no cymbal at all.
hi back in the 70's when i had cracks at the edge,i took it to a machine shop,he put it on a lathe and cut around ip to the crack,the cymbal was thicker and sounded great ,it looks funky cutting out a piece lite a pie or a jigsaw puzzle,my cymbal sounds cool and sustain sound and loud,take it to a machine shop
John is correct in my experience. Drilling holes on either side of the crack was always the old school go to, but it’s really not effective in the long term.
Wow go figure. I just cracked the EXACT same 16" O-Zone HHX Evolution crash cymbal in the same spot! Glad I found this video. Off to Sabian headquarters to address this issue! Lol😂
Thanks for the guidance! I'm about to give it a go on the first pair of hi hat's I ever bought. Paiste 15" 101. I've had them since around 1982. They still sounded great but decided to retire them as the crack became a gap!!😮😂 . I'll record them before, as you did and then after, of course. Then I'll get back to you. Fingers crossed 🤞 😊 Cheers. Paul 👊
Wow, that's a lot of metal removed! Get in early before it branches and drill a small hole at the very end of the crack so the ends just inside the hole you drill. Be sure to make the hole clean and remove burs and jagged edges ie, a small touch with a countersink bit on either side. It doesn't always work because its impossible to know for sure if there is a hairline fracture there still. I used a 2.5mm drill bit on a sabian b8 chna with an edge crack, but re- appeared later. It worked o an aax explosion with a body crack though, a hole drilled at each end. It hasn't re-cracked. No offense intended at the creator of this vid, but get in early to avoid having to remove big bites, because the more metal you remove the more different it will sound, and not in a good way, unless its a china, because they are trashy anyway, so not so bad.
Dont use safety glasses with an angle grinder, use a saftey visor. Disks can shatter and launch into your face. Also have a fire extinguisher/blanket present, because they produce hot metal sparks.
(TL;DR: probably overkill; not needed if you're not blowing other crucial basic safety factors). Umm ... this is well-intentioned but a bit excessive -- and I'm saying this as a former professional knifemaker, *and* someone who's designed, built, and worked in pilot plants (in small confined spaces) with very high-temp/pressure explosive liquids/gases/chemicals - and designed safety protocols. Yep, a visor's not a bad idea in general, but cutting/grinding a cymbal (properly, well-clamped, using a good cutting/grinding wheel!) is not likely to make a disk explode and propel shards of spun brass/bronze into your cheek -- if so, let's start with "you're doing it wrong", and should watch a couple of videos on using an angle grinder safely. As to the hot metal sparks: (a) ok, yes, ALWAYS have a fire extinguisher in a shop (preferably A/B/C because why outweighs why-not when it counts), but (b) if you've got combustibles anywhere near a "hot-op", Darwin wants a word with your genes. (I especially call out sawdust, dust, oily rags (what a cliché but still....) - oh, and I guess flammable solvents? >;-))
I did mine with a dremmel tool and the disk DID FLY OFF of the dremmel in the process of cutting a cymbal by this method. I am lucky that it did not hit my face. good thinking about the visor...
Cool vid. I run a jam studio and i have lots of cracked crashes. I was thinking of a way to turn them on a lathe and trim off the inch or so needed for a fresh edge,, ie turn an 18 into a 16 as an example or turn cracked crashes into hihats. For sure it would change the tone of the cymbal if you cut all the way around but could be cool otherwise. I guess there is a whole school of thought on edge shaping to thin the edge down or they probably sound like bells more than nice crashes.
I have a crash cymbal, but the crack is quite close to the bell. Wouldn't be enough left to make a splash! A bell?😂 Anyway,I thought perhaps leave the crack alone, polish it up, and turn it into a cool lamp shade for the man cave/ studio! 🤩 Happy drumming, guys!
Y'all can do this with a Dremel and a drill. That's kind of a vague statement though because a Dremel is only as good as it's attachments. Good video, though.
Took mine to Pro Drums in Hollywood, they did this. It didnt work. The next week my cymbal kept on cracking on the same spot they cut out. My opinion is to just cut the whole thing in a complete circle to a smaller size.
Does anyone, Here, know, lf l can just melt a crack(About the size of a Dollar-Coin), Away, On the edge of a cymbal, By fusing it, Together, By Heating it up, With a Cigarette-Lighter or Soldering-Iron?
If i see another repair cymbal video 😂😂. You can't repair a cracked cymbal. Cutting out a damaged portion is not a repair. Its a modification! Imagine if drummers did this to drum shells? ,😏🥱
I’m glad you’re talking about this. Almost no drummer knows they can repair cymbals.
But i was surprise how much material you take off! I usealy take out a little only in straight lines if i can.
Morgane Gautier the idea of removing more metal to make a curved shape is that stresses in the metal are relieved preventing further cracking.
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I used this method (learned from the video) to repair a ride cymbal that I bought used off craigslist. I purchased the cymbal specifically because its a great jazz ride that normally sells for very expensive but which was priced very low because it had a crack that was about 2.5 inches long running from the edge to end of the crack. This method worked beautifully and rounding (softening) the edges of the cut made this a very functional repair. I now have a great cymbal that I otherwise would not afford at this time. The tone is excellent and this sort of repair does not seem to dampen the cymbal significantly or at all.
Thanks!
Thanks, unfortunately had to do this today. It doesn't so much affect the pitch but definitely the sustain. But it's either that or the crack continues and no cymbal at all.
damn, if only i knew this earlier, all this money i could have saved....good thing i kept my cracked cymbals as home decoration, time to get drilling!
Nice one!!! I saw already a lot of drummers here in my city doind this kind of repaire and, I think is a good way to save the cymbals!
Thank you so much for this video. It guided me through the process of saving my cymbals. It's crazy how little it's affected the tone.
Excellent,I thought that it could work in theory and now I know ,thanks ,I got to go to my garage now .Take care and be good.
hi back in the 70's when i had cracks at the edge,i took it to a machine shop,he put it on a lathe and cut around ip to the crack,the cymbal was thicker and sounded great ,it looks funky cutting out a piece lite a pie or a jigsaw puzzle,my cymbal sounds cool and sustain sound and loud,take it to a machine shop
Tips to fix a crack at the bell/hole? Cutting it out is going to mean it won't sit on the stand anymore?
Great video thank you will this also work on big gongs?
I think that the best way to keep the original sound of the cymbal is to mesure the bell and cut the half of it wherever the crack is, small or big.
Would be better for balance if you cut another piece of metal simmetrically? Or it doesn't matter?
So I’ve always been curious why not just drill the hole? Wouldn’t that alone prevent the crack from traveling further?
Only temporarily. I’ve tried it twice, and both times the crack eventually reappeared on the other side of the hole.
@@johnsanders1530 interesting 🤔
John is correct in my experience. Drilling holes on either side of the crack was always the old school go to, but it’s really not effective in the long term.
Wow go figure. I just cracked the EXACT same 16" O-Zone HHX Evolution crash cymbal in the same spot! Glad I found this video. Off to Sabian headquarters to address this issue! Lol😂
Thanks for the guidance! I'm about to give it a go on the first pair of hi hat's I ever bought. Paiste 15" 101. I've had them since around 1982. They still sounded great but decided to retire them as the crack became a gap!!😮😂 . I'll record them before, as you did and then after, of course. Then I'll get back to you. Fingers crossed 🤞 😊
Cheers. Paul 👊
Wow, that's a lot of metal removed! Get in early before it branches and drill a small hole at the very end of the crack so the ends just inside the hole you drill. Be sure to make the hole clean and remove burs and jagged edges ie, a small touch with a countersink bit on either side. It doesn't always work because its impossible to know for sure if there is a hairline fracture there still. I used a 2.5mm drill bit on a sabian b8 chna with an edge crack, but re- appeared later. It worked o an aax explosion with a body crack though, a hole drilled at each end. It hasn't re-cracked. No offense intended at the creator of this vid, but get in early to avoid having to remove big bites, because the more metal you remove the more different it will sound, and not in a good way, unless its a china, because they are trashy anyway, so not so bad.
That never worked for me. Crack always reappears eventually on the other side of the hole.
They sound brighter with more wash 👍🏻
How big a crack will this work with?
Any size really. I removed my whole ass crack using this method, it was super deep and wide and I haven't had an issue since.
Dont use safety glasses with an angle grinder, use a saftey visor. Disks can shatter and launch into your face. Also have a fire extinguisher/blanket present, because they produce hot metal sparks.
Thanks Safety Steve.
While your at it put a cork on your fork and brakes on your shoes.
(TL;DR: probably overkill; not needed if you're not blowing other crucial basic safety factors). Umm ... this is well-intentioned but a bit excessive -- and I'm saying this as a former professional knifemaker, *and* someone who's designed, built, and worked in pilot plants (in small confined spaces) with very high-temp/pressure explosive liquids/gases/chemicals - and designed safety protocols.
Yep, a visor's not a bad idea in general, but cutting/grinding a cymbal (properly, well-clamped, using a good cutting/grinding wheel!) is not likely to make a disk explode and propel shards of spun brass/bronze into your cheek -- if so, let's start with "you're doing it wrong", and should watch a couple of videos on using an angle grinder safely. As to the hot metal sparks: (a) ok, yes, ALWAYS have a fire extinguisher in a shop (preferably A/B/C because why outweighs why-not when it counts), but (b) if you've got combustibles anywhere near a "hot-op", Darwin wants a word with your genes. (I especially call out sawdust, dust, oily rags (what a cliché but still....) - oh, and I guess flammable solvents? >;-))
I did mine with a dremmel tool and the disk DID FLY OFF of the dremmel in the process of cutting a cymbal by this method. I am lucky that it did not hit my face. good thinking about the visor...
thanks a ton!
Does anyone have the name of the track playing at the beginning of the vid?
Cool vid. I run a jam studio and i have lots of cracked crashes. I was thinking of a way to turn them on a lathe and trim off the inch or so needed for a fresh edge,, ie turn an 18 into a 16 as an example or turn cracked crashes into hihats. For sure it would change the tone of the cymbal if you cut all the way around but could be cool otherwise. I guess there is a whole school of thought on edge shaping to thin the edge down or they probably sound like bells more than nice crashes.
Mines like 6 inches long. Im still going to cut it out because i need an FX cymbal
THANK YOU
It really works legit 💯
I have a crash cymbal, but the crack is quite close to the bell. Wouldn't be enough left to make a splash! A bell?😂
Anyway,I thought perhaps leave the crack alone, polish it up, and turn it into a cool lamp shade for the man cave/ studio! 🤩
Happy drumming, guys!
Y'all can do this with a Dremel and a drill. That's kind of a vague statement though because a Dremel is only as good as it's attachments. Good video, though.
Chunk flew out from my k light ride today - 500 quid cymbal new nowadays 🥴
Thx for this )))
thanks man
Took mine to Pro Drums in Hollywood, they did this. It didnt work. The next week my cymbal kept on cracking on the same spot they cut out. My opinion is to just cut the whole thing in a complete circle to a smaller size.
Hell yea
Hi.good cymbals, so nice, and sweet's.sounds.cutting for a crash, I said ,; welding for it.will do ?
It does help but eventually it will crack again in the same spot.
That's obvious ,nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky.
I have repaired cymbals I've been playing for years and years without re-cracking.
@@brysondockrill4378 how did you repair your cymbals?
Was the mallets really necessary ? xD
Nobody plays with those... And made A/B referensing before/after a little trickier
Does anyone, Here, know, lf l can just melt a crack(About the size of a Dollar-Coin), Away, On the edge of a cymbal, By fusing it, Together, By Heating it up, With a Cigarette-Lighter or Soldering-Iron?
so you want to melt a bronze alloy with a cigarette lighter?
🤕🧐😁😃
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???
Here’s a hint: if ur breaking a lot of sticks and cracking cymbals regularly, ur probably playing too hard.
or playing metal.
@@chad9160 even then you're playing too hard
This is not the right way.
👍🏻
If i see another repair cymbal video 😂😂. You can't repair a cracked cymbal. Cutting out a damaged portion is not a repair. Its a modification! Imagine if drummers did this to drum shells? ,😏🥱
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