Looks like YT is BUSTED - we have chapters in this video so you can skip around...they just aren't up on the timeline for some reason, check the description!
I found out that for five years, I was wearing a fake Submariner, but I paid for a real one. Apparently, the company ziarex makes those mega clones. I tried to find my dealer, but he is gone. I did research, and they have a whole section of watches. They
Just wanted to let you guys know I look forward to this with my morning cup of coffee every week! You two are hilarious together, and I love the watch news as well. Keep up the awesome content.
You two should take this on the road! I was laughing my butt off! Your family stories are so relatable to other families! Stories about that “generation” of hardened old men never ceases to provide humor when retold today. Watches are a side note. Hats off guys!
If I had the opportunity to make $400k+ flipping a single watch - I would absolutely do it (even if it meant I got blacklisted). The fact is this is a once in a lifetime moment of factors (inflation, pandemic, peak luxury watch demand). Take the money and don't look back
Being from Staten Island guys like that guy are why I wont add a Rolex to my collection. Everyone on Staten Island who has one knows nothing and just buys them for the name. Wont be lumped into that mess.
Man when you drink with your Mike on it gives me shivers , the sound makes me crazy , I’m fully aware that that is my problem but it’s just something I can’t bear
I really look forward to T&H videos. Your channel chemistry, family, everything you do for the watch industry, is why I keep coming back to watch more.
Worked in a jewelry store back in college. One of the hardest things to do was tell people, who brought in what they thought was valuable, that their pieces were fake.
I look forward to these videos! Always a pleasant surprise when I see a new one uploaded. The banter between the two of you and the topics are top! I would very much enjoy sitting down getting merry and talking watches with you two!
my mom when I was a kid gave me a timex Ironman and I loved it and have been into watches ever since when my grandpa passed he left me an Edox watch I don’t think it’s worth much but means so much, it’s nice I always look forward to your videos
So funny, my dad gave me a Fake Rolex in 2010 when I was in my final year of High school and I wore it everyday to school for three months before the bracelet broke and the timekeeping couldn't follow up the real time. Nobody noticed it and I had zero comments about it. However, that's how my horological journey started and today I still have that destroyed fake Rolex in a drawer, as a souvenir.
TheWatchGuys channel covered the story behind auctioning the green 5711. Basically, it was sold by the Patek AD that recently closed down and needed to get rid of their inventory. They didn't care about being blacklisted by Patek.
I rest my watch on the crown for the same exact reason. I’ve heard it can affect the movement, but it helps my watch still look pretty. Ya know, priorities. Thanks for the great content fellas, look forward to these discussions every week. It’s like an awesome podcast but with more chest hair.
Cartier occasionally still does the whole visceral shapes inspiration thing! The Ballon Bleu being inspired by a pebble one of the most major, and it's been Cartier's best seller since its inception about 15 years ago!
My opinion on fakes is clear: if you can get 99% of the real thing for 10% of it then the original isn't worth its asking price. I don't see functional Sky-Dwellers anywhere on the fake market, nor any of my beloved Zenith 1/100 chronos. You don't see fake Ferraris that are a 99% rendering of its original counterparts and people worried about them being passed on as originals.
I heard the person that auctioned off that Patek was the son of some prominent jewelry store and Patek AD in the UK… I believe they recently went out of business or lost their AD license with Patek and they had that watch and auctioned it.
With the Rolex bubble going on right now I don’t blame anyone for wearing a fake one. At least you can get one. Or you have gray market oysters that normally go for six grand asking 13
The whole thing around buying a product (any product, not just watches) and people looking down on you when you choose to sell it, is an absolutely rediculous concept to me. You buy it, you can do whatever the hell you like with it, it's yours to wear, return, sell, give away, set fire to...whatever. I think people are more put out by the insane mark-up and profit this guy made.
I bought a bunch of Grand Seiko watches years ago. I sold them, and man do I regret it. They were mostly quartz, but they looked amazing. Furthermore, with all the noise regarding the 44G case, the 62GS is just plain superior. Although my biggest regret was an almost perfect Tudor sub. I thought I was robbing the guy I sold it to, then I saw the same watch on Hodinkee years later for eight grand.
Hey, have you guys ever thought about releasing the audio for these videos in podcast form? A few channels i follow, notably the Pete and Sebastian Show, does this. I think it would be pretty cool because sometimes I, and im sure other people, would love to listen to this as their driving or walking or taking the train.
Thank you so much 🙏 For the content. For being open to any brand regardless the price or hype. For being honest and authentic. For being so entertaining and cool. @Christian for admitting that you love your family. I feel like in quarantine - locked at home - but you made my day 👍
Speaking of fake names, with Christian sporting those sideburns and ‘stache, shirt open to the forth button along with the gold chain, what about some 70’s/80’s adult film industry monikers? Just having fun with you because I believe you can roll with it. Enjoy the content with you both.
I once met a man who owned a German beer house in London. He shared with me a bottle of “black champagne” created in the Black Forest of Germany. It was tasteless. Just like this Junghans. The end.
Really entertaining discussions. Crown down? I always place my watch down with the dial facing up (back of watch rests against the bracelet/buckle, usually I try to make a stand out of it so the dial is elevated at an angle, if that makes sense)
Also, watch makers tune the watch with the crown like that because it’s the position your watch is in most of the time (if you’re right handed). Arm to your side, crown facing the ground, which is the same as putting the watch on the crown on the table. My watch maker said when you sleep leave it on the table with the crown down. It’s how it runs most optimal. (Or so I’ve heard)
I seldom comment on videos but had to thank you guys for doing what you do! It's so nice and relaxing listening to you guys banter about watches and stuff after a long and stressful day of work. Highlight of my day today.
Yikes, rad dials 🏃💨 "The radium isotope (Ra 226) used has a half-life of about 1,600 years, so even very old radium dials remain essentially just as radioactive as when originally painted ~100 years ago, whether or not they still are luminous "
If you're looking for someone to take that fake rolex off your hands I'd like to have it. It would be something I could practice servicing so I can learn how to service my own watches. I got a seiko presage "Mojito" and a Tissot V8 automatic chronograph. Willing to learn and if I mess up on the fake, at least it'll be a fake and won't be of any loss🤷♂️ I'll pay for shipping 👌
About Max Bill_ From what I've researched, Max Bill studied at the Bauhaus in the late twenties and not the 50s-60s. It´s just a small correction. Congratulations for your channel. Good mood is always a good business card :-)
No-go on the 'stache. With the shirt unbuttoned half way, you just need some large, smoky tinted glasses and you've got the 70's NYC Italian mobster look nailed.
We need to stop criminals like ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
I inherited my grandads omega geneve dynamic from the 70s. The oval shaped case is quite a different look. It was in awful shape but I sent it back to Omega for a fiull service and strap replacement. Love wearing it and knowing not many people have anything similar hah.
Counterpoint to the crown position, when movements proclaim they are adjusted to 5 positions, the 6th is usually the crown position which means resting it like that makes your watch run minimally worse than usual. You have to be analfor this to matter but lets not pretend thats not a lot of us.
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Looks like YT is BUSTED - we have chapters in this video so you can skip around...they just aren't up on the timeline for some reason, check the description!
I found out that for five years, I was wearing a fake Submariner, but I paid for a real one. Apparently, the company ziarex makes those mega clones. I tried to find my dealer, but he is gone. I did research, and they have a whole section of watches. They
Was he working at a dealer?
Just wanted to let you guys know I look forward to this with my morning cup of coffee every week! You two are hilarious together, and I love the watch news as well. Keep up the awesome content.
Totally agree
Yeah this is such a great episode too. Bubble butt. Michael's fake Rolex that actually might be real. This was a great one!
You two should take this on the road! I was laughing my butt off! Your family stories are so relatable to other families! Stories about that “generation” of hardened old men never ceases to provide humor when retold today. Watches are a side note. Hats off guys!
If I had the opportunity to make $400k+ flipping a single watch - I would absolutely do it (even if it meant I got blacklisted). The fact is this is a once in a lifetime moment of factors (inflation, pandemic, peak luxury watch demand). Take the money and don't look back
He's buying Pateks does he really need the $400k?
@@worldawaits427 I think you're underestimating the fact that rich people are always looking for ways to make more money
@@worldawaits427 that means nothing. I know a guy who makes 52k a year and has a ~$85,000 collection….he’s also 36
@@worldawaits427 no but absolutely everyone on earth can be tempted at the possibility of making some more money
@@jordanc9169 lives with his mom?
Show us the "fake" Rolex. Would be so funny if it's real.
Whenever I wake up and watch one of these videos, it makes my day a great one! Thank you for making such interesting videos.
At this point - why is Christian bothering to button his shirt at all?
Lolololololol
Loved the jokes in this episode, especially the wrench jokes about your grandfather haha
Being from Staten Island guys like that guy are why I wont add a Rolex to my collection. Everyone on Staten Island who has one knows nothing and just buys them for the name. Wont be lumped into that mess.
Been loving these episodes. You guys are fun to watch. Keep up the awesome work, boys!!
Man when you drink with your Mike on it gives me shivers , the sound makes me crazy , I’m fully aware that that is my problem but it’s just something I can’t bear
Maybe this is Rolex’s end game. To flood the gray market with legits and the public market with fakes
I really look forward to T&H videos. Your channel chemistry, family, everything you do for the watch industry, is why I keep coming back to watch more.
"It's not Arabic, it's regular numbas." Hahahahahahaahah!!
Damn i love these videos, they are so entertaining
Worked in a jewelry store back in college. One of the hardest things to do was tell people, who brought in what they thought was valuable, that their pieces were fake.
I look forward to these videos! Always a pleasant surprise when I see a new one uploaded. The banter between the two of you and the topics are top! I would very much enjoy sitting down getting merry and talking watches with you two!
Bring Michael’s fake explorer on so we can see how fake it is
The casual reference to Pak Hendra was gold 😂
What about a fucking good audio version of this chats on some podcast apps?
my mom when I was a kid gave me a timex Ironman and I loved it and have been into watches ever since when my grandpa passed he left me an Edox watch I don’t think it’s worth much but means so much, it’s nice
I always look forward to your videos
bring the chapters back
All the pictures were taken at 10:10…. such an underrated statement 😂
Michael lowkey looks like Jeremy Renner...
Well…..its a shame Anna is gone from T&H.
What happened to her?
My experience with swissarex was fantastic. The watch arrived quickly and was exactly as described.
Mustache for the win! 👍
I'm confused. that Patek story came out in July, including the details of the guys name. is there a timewarp in New Jersey?
I have a fake Rolex Submariner that says Relax Substitute on the dial. The pun was too nice to pass up.
So funny, my dad gave me a Fake Rolex in 2010 when I was in my final year of High school and I wore it everyday to school for three months before the bracelet broke and the timekeeping couldn't follow up the real time. Nobody noticed it and I had zero comments about it. However, that's how my horological journey started and today I still have that destroyed fake Rolex in a drawer, as a souvenir.
TheWatchGuys channel covered the story behind auctioning the green 5711. Basically, it was sold by the Patek AD that recently closed down and needed to get rid of their inventory. They didn't care about being blacklisted by Patek.
Can’t find it, can you post the link please?
@@marcd7332 Wow, I think that video has been taken down. He made a whole video about the hands-on review. I can't find it either.
I read an article that the person who sold the 5711. Owned a Patek AD but lost it. This 5711 was one of the last watches delivered to them.
Tony Soprano: " 'Remember when' is the lowest form of conversation."
16:00 "That's kind of what I said."😄 Michael is hilarious. I watched that part like 12 times.
I rest my watch on the crown for the same exact reason. I’ve heard it can affect the movement, but it helps my watch still look pretty. Ya know, priorities.
Thanks for the great content fellas, look forward to these discussions every week. It’s like an awesome podcast but with more chest hair.
I can see that being an issue for non-screw down cases.
can't comprehend the rest on the crown thing, is it because if it lays flat it will get scratch the case with the bracelet?
@@eduardorochin7601 yeah or if it’s on the case side, the side of the case gets scratched.
@@triniboy05 got it, thanks!
Good explanation on the California dial. Just another thing Rolex came to market first with. I always thought it was Panerai but in fact it was Rolex!
1 second after this video was posted and already 1 dislike. Did somebody not like the title or what? 🙂
Tom Selleck’s secret love child…like Magnum PI talks watches, get yourself a Ferrari and Shiny Mikey a couple of Dobermans and we’re all set. 👍
Great one guys. Really fun.
Stopped watching your channel for a while cause I felt that it got a little stagnant. But I’m loving this new format. Great work guys 👍🏼
Cartier occasionally still does the whole visceral shapes inspiration thing! The Ballon Bleu being inspired by a pebble one of the most major, and it's been Cartier's best seller since its inception about 15 years ago!
Love the banter between the both of you very entertaining!
When I read the title, I was expecting you to feature the Tudor Two Tone Chronograph with fake gold and fake screws.
Glad to see Christian is back to form.
These talks with you two are spectacular
Always a pleasure watching your content
I wear today an "Explorer GMT II" clone and despite the caliber is far to achieve the level of the original, works decently since almost four years.
Another great episode guys!
Enjoyed it guys, keep up the good work!
My opinion on fakes is clear: if you can get 99% of the real thing for 10% of it then the original isn't worth its asking price. I don't see functional Sky-Dwellers anywhere on the fake market, nor any of my beloved Zenith 1/100 chronos.
You don't see fake Ferraris that are a 99% rendering of its original counterparts and people worried about them being passed on as originals.
Hmm, crown; TDIL. Another funny and enjoyable class and news update from my favorite youngsters. Thank you, guys!
Am I the only one who thinks the Cartier should have a pearl as its crown?
Yes. 😂
Both your watches are incredible.
Love the banter
I heard the person that auctioned off that Patek was the son of some prominent jewelry store and Patek AD in the UK… I believe they recently went out of business or lost their AD license with Patek and they had that watch and auctioned it.
YALL ARE TOO GOOD AT CLICKBAITING ME! 😂👏🏻
Great video guys, that was fun to watch!!
With the Rolex bubble going on right now I don’t blame anyone for wearing a fake one. At least you can get one. Or you have gray market oysters that normally go for six grand asking 13
Lmfaoo that flash back 💀🤣
The whole thing around buying a product (any product, not just watches) and people looking down on you when you choose to sell it, is an absolutely rediculous concept to me. You buy it, you can do whatever the hell you like with it, it's yours to wear, return, sell, give away, set fire to...whatever. I think people are more put out by the insane mark-up and profit this guy made.
I bought a bunch of Grand Seiko watches years ago. I sold them, and man do I regret it. They were mostly quartz, but they looked amazing. Furthermore, with all the noise regarding the 44G case, the 62GS is just plain superior. Although my biggest regret was an almost perfect Tudor sub. I thought I was robbing the guy I sold it to, then I saw the same watch on Hodinkee years later for eight grand.
8 grand for quartz ? Ouch!
Hey, have you guys ever thought about releasing the audio for these videos in podcast form? A few channels i follow, notably the Pete and Sebastian Show, does this. I think it would be pretty cool because sometimes I, and im sure other people, would love to listen to this as their driving or walking or taking the train.
Love these... The story about your grandfather's wrench killed me, keep up the great conent!
Thank you so much 🙏
For the content. For being open to any brand regardless the price or hype. For being honest and authentic. For being so entertaining and cool. @Christian for admitting that you love your family. I feel like in quarantine - locked at home - but you made my day 👍
Sadly we will all face a time where we only remember being cool once.
Speaking of fake names, with Christian sporting those sideburns and ‘stache, shirt open to the forth button along with the gold chain, what about some 70’s/80’s adult film industry monikers?
Just having fun with you because I believe you can roll with it. Enjoy the content with you both.
I had fun and laughed out loud a few times. This is an awesome video with great stories and even greater chop-busting.. Thanks, guys. Very very Cool.
You have to check out that Explorer 1! See if it's real!
Yes, they should show it.
Christian is going for a look here. What it is, I don't know but if he's wearing short shorts it's definitely pulling it together.
Stories of NYC, growing up. It's a window on a different world.
Superb gentlemen. I adore these vids.
"It's kinda what I said" LOL
Have you seen the cartier mitten ?
😂😂 the stories at the end had me dying 😂😂 good shit gents 🍻
these videos are amazing! you guys are a great duo
I once met a man who owned a German beer house in London. He shared with me a bottle of “black champagne” created in the Black Forest of Germany. It was tasteless. Just like this Junghans. The end.
Where can you get the Marlin with the green strap, I can't find that config anywhere? Only with blue or black leather straps
Try the vintage watches for men section. Should find it there, but a waiting list piece. Cheers.
@@fullymechanical9055 Thanks 👍
Really entertaining discussions. Crown down? I always place my watch down with the dial facing up (back of watch rests against the bracelet/buckle, usually I try to make a stand out of it so the dial is elevated at an angle, if that makes sense)
Also, watch makers tune the watch with the crown like that because it’s the position your watch is in most of the time (if you’re right handed). Arm to your side, crown facing the ground, which is the same as putting the watch on the crown on the table. My watch maker said when you sleep leave it on the table with the crown down. It’s how it runs most optimal. (Or so I’ve heard)
Same here, my watchmaker is an older man from a different time period so I take his advice most of the time ..
I love the maxbill chronoscope and Junghans as a brand… but they just made a mvmt watch
I seldom comment on videos but had to thank you guys for doing what you do! It's so nice and relaxing listening to you guys banter about watches and stuff after a long and stressful day of work. Highlight of my day today.
Yikes, rad dials 🏃💨
"The radium isotope (Ra 226) used has a half-life of about 1,600 years, so even very old radium dials remain essentially just as radioactive as when originally painted ~100 years ago, whether or not they still are luminous "
If you're looking for someone to take that fake rolex off your hands I'd like to have it. It would be something I could practice servicing so I can learn how to service my own watches. I got a seiko presage "Mojito" and a Tissot V8 automatic chronograph. Willing to learn and if I mess up on the fake, at least it'll be a fake and won't be of any loss🤷♂️ I'll pay for shipping 👌
About Max Bill_ From what I've researched, Max Bill studied at the Bauhaus in the late twenties and not the 50s-60s. It´s just a small correction. Congratulations for your channel. Good mood is always a good business card :-)
great video guys!! I must say though Im surprised christian even knows what a wrench is..... lol.
btw wheres anna these days?
"It's worth nothing." vs "It's priceless. "👌
No-go on the 'stache. With the shirt unbuttoned half way, you just need some large, smoky tinted glasses and you've got the 70's NYC Italian mobster look nailed.
Or 70s porn star look.
Man, this is fine. I rember him rocking track suits with his dad's full gold Rolex. This, now, is as civilised Christian can be.
Love hanging out with you guys
The mustache is fantastic!
Patek 5711 green flipped for 1/2 a million? Only Patek's Crony would buy to boost the grey market price. Thank you Rolex on PN daytona
Theo and Harris...I'll take that Fake Rolex and get rid of it for you...I'm serious...
We need to stop criminals like ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
Have you guys posted pics of Michael’s Explorer? Would love to know if it is indeed fake.
"deep navy green" what does that look like.😜😂
Really really love this videos!
I inherited my grandads omega geneve dynamic from the 70s. The oval shaped case is quite a different look. It was in awful shape but I sent it back to Omega for a fiull service and strap replacement. Love wearing it and knowing not many people have anything similar hah.
Counterpoint to the crown position, when movements proclaim they are adjusted to 5 positions, the 6th is usually the crown position which means resting it like that makes your watch run minimally worse than usual. You have to be analfor this to matter but lets not pretend thats not a lot of us.
Most excited about that Timex, such a beautiful watch
Imagine telling your grandpa during Christmas story-telling to "shut up" hahaha