Power-Trac in Virginia has been making stellar articulated 4wd tool carriers right here in the US for decades, building on a heritage of mining equipment. They work circles around skid steers in certain roles, especially on slopes.. High quality and value machines and attachments .
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If an actual skid steer is needed then there is no way a SAL will replace it. Skid steers often sell just because that’s what’s available and just because a SAL is available that doesn’t mean a decent operator is available. Another issue might be finding a SAL with the required options or features available.
The small farm loader (hoflader) was not developed by avant, they startet in thd mid 90th. It was invented in the seventies by Weidemann (Hoflader), later also Schaeffer (Hoftrac), Eckard (Kuli), Eicher (Eichus) and Fristein (Fritruck). All of them started in the seventies to develop them. Some are gone others like Weidemann and Schaeffer are market leaders among others who started later. The only thing that Avant started first was the international marketing. The other european manufactures are basicly unable to supply the domestic market, not to low producten more due to the unbelaevable demand. At the dealers they usually sell within one hour after drop off! Greetings from Germany
In the U.S., wheel loaders are mostly used for plowing snow or by tree companies because they are inferior at almost everything else, especially dirt work. They lack pushing power, cause high ground compaction, and due to the loader arm design, it’s almost impossible to achieve a decent grade. They also get stuck pretty quickly. Additionally, they are not built tough enough for American standards. They also lack hydraulic power and high-flow capability, which are crucial for high-demand attachments like forestry mulchers, rakes, etc. I saw a Weidemann dealer in Canada, and these machines are literally not being sold. I think Weidemann tried to enter the U.S. market before but completely failed. Also, wheel loaders are mostly a European thing. Everywhere else, such as in Canada, the U.S., Australia, and New Zealand, compact track loaders dominate the market for good reasons i dont know how you came to this conclusion that they will sell but noone else besides europe would want to youse them including me i belive that they are good when loading trucks but they are completly inferior in every other aspect.
@@bluecolourhustle in europe they are mostly used on farms for feeding and cleaning out the manure. Grading and dirt moving are done by small excavators which are in high demand too. The wheel loaders and excavators are a perfect match. Skid steers are basicly unsellable over here. We don't have a lot of snow and our properties are tiny compare to the US.
@@uwejacobs6587Skidsteers and trackloaders are too heavy for European transportation regulations. Due to the trailering limit of 3500kg (7700lbs) and a trailer weight of ~800kg (~1800lbs), machines need to be lighter than 2700kg (6000lbs). Skidsteers and trackloaders that size have horrible capacities. I have a MultiOne 10.9 that lifts way more than 2000kg to 3,21 meters hight and offers 95 liters/min for every kind of attachments.
Machines with that same arrangement were introduced in the US in the late 60s for underground mining. They're still very popular in narrow-vein mines and are far superior to skid-steers in that application. The payload-to-width ratio is much higher which results in rounds being cycled faster, and visibility (especially rear visibility - critical when a turnaround isn't available for two hundred feet and no, cameras aren't good enough) is better. They're also generally easier to work on in a cramped area - no need to raise the cab. Tire life is longer, too. Downsides are poorer fine grade control, lower lift, and a lack of attachments, although 95% of what you'd want to do in a mine can be accomplished with a straight, spade, or tooth bucket equipped with chain hooks/loops and a set of clamp-on pallet forks.
@@Porty1119I just took the landscaping and construction approach, but yeah, it depends on what industries you work in and what the jobs of the machine are. However, I have to disagree with your claim about serviceability. We have just bought an ASV RT75, and when you take off the back panels, you have full access to the complete engine. The serviceability on this machine is insane; you have all your filters in one spot under an easy-to-remove panel
Sadly, the price put them way outside the wallet of most people; and ALL of the brands you mentioned are more of a midsize - the true minis are the ones coming out of China these days, and they are very reasonably price!
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Power-Trac in Virginia has been making stellar articulated 4wd tool carriers right here in the US for decades, building on a heritage of mining equipment. They work circles around skid steers in certain roles, especially on slopes.. High quality and value machines and attachments .
Very well organized and useful information... TH-cam done right!
Thanks for the kind words. We appreciate it! - Wayne
Put a three point hitch and a pto and you have everything.
Glad you put this out
If an actual skid steer is needed then there is no way a SAL will replace it.
Skid steers often sell just because that’s what’s available and just because a SAL is available that doesn’t mean a decent operator is available. Another issue might be finding a SAL with the required options or features available.
The case SALs look alot like a Giant 🧐🤔
The small farm loader (hoflader) was not developed by avant, they startet in thd mid 90th.
It was invented in the seventies by Weidemann (Hoflader), later also Schaeffer (Hoftrac), Eckard (Kuli), Eicher (Eichus) and Fristein (Fritruck). All of them started in the seventies to develop them. Some are gone others like Weidemann and Schaeffer are market leaders among others who started later.
The only thing that Avant started first was the international marketing. The other european manufactures are basicly unable to supply the domestic market, not to low producten more due to the unbelaevable demand. At the dealers they usually sell within one hour after drop off!
Greetings from Germany
In the U.S., wheel loaders are mostly used for plowing snow or by tree companies because they are inferior at almost everything else, especially dirt work. They lack pushing power, cause high ground compaction, and due to the loader arm design, it’s almost impossible to achieve a decent grade. They also get stuck pretty quickly. Additionally, they are not built tough enough for American standards. They also lack hydraulic power and high-flow capability, which are crucial for high-demand attachments like forestry mulchers, rakes, etc. I saw a Weidemann dealer in Canada, and these machines are literally not being sold. I think Weidemann tried to enter the U.S. market before but completely failed. Also, wheel loaders are mostly a European thing. Everywhere else, such as in Canada, the U.S., Australia, and New Zealand, compact track loaders dominate the market for good reasons i dont know how you came to this conclusion that they will sell but noone else besides europe would want to youse them including me i belive that they are good when loading trucks but they are completly inferior in every other aspect.
@@bluecolourhustle in europe they are mostly used on farms for feeding and cleaning out the manure. Grading and dirt moving are done by small excavators which are in high demand too. The wheel loaders and excavators are a perfect match. Skid steers are basicly unsellable over here. We don't have a lot of snow and our properties are tiny compare to the US.
@@uwejacobs6587Skidsteers and trackloaders are too heavy for European transportation regulations. Due to the trailering limit of 3500kg (7700lbs) and a trailer weight of ~800kg (~1800lbs), machines need to be lighter than 2700kg (6000lbs). Skidsteers and trackloaders that size have horrible capacities.
I have a MultiOne 10.9 that lifts way more than 2000kg to 3,21 meters hight and offers 95 liters/min for every kind of attachments.
Machines with that same arrangement were introduced in the US in the late 60s for underground mining. They're still very popular in narrow-vein mines and are far superior to skid-steers in that application. The payload-to-width ratio is much higher which results in rounds being cycled faster, and visibility (especially rear visibility - critical when a turnaround isn't available for two hundred feet and no, cameras aren't good enough) is better. They're also generally easier to work on in a cramped area - no need to raise the cab. Tire life is longer, too. Downsides are poorer fine grade control, lower lift, and a lack of attachments, although 95% of what you'd want to do in a mine can be accomplished with a straight, spade, or tooth bucket equipped with chain hooks/loops and a set of clamp-on pallet forks.
@@Porty1119I just took the landscaping and construction approach, but yeah, it depends on what industries you work in and what the jobs of the machine are. However, I have to disagree with your claim about serviceability. We have just bought an ASV RT75, and when you take off the back panels, you have full access to the complete engine. The serviceability on this machine is insane; you have all your filters in one spot under an easy-to-remove panel
I am pretty sure that the SAL's sold by Vermeer they are just a rebranded MultiOne machine.
Yes I believe multi one only builds them for Vermeer now ... Aka no more "multi one"
Sadly, the price put them way outside the wallet of most people; and ALL of the brands you mentioned are more of a midsize - the true minis are the ones coming out of China these days, and they are very reasonably price!
If that wheel loader can replace your skidsteer then you didn’t need a skidsteer in the first place.
Exactly! I’ve seen more skid steers used because that’s what was available, than because a skid steer was actually needed.
Compact teleporters beat everything hands down