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@@kaptainkaijuyou do realize that his content about meta is how he gets large viewership right? Can’t blame the guy for constantly talking about it. Also, most OW creators agree that the game is more fun when Winston and Rein are playable.
Hog is actually a beast right now. I have a 90% win rate since his rework (over ~15 games in low diamond). And I'm not even great at hook combo, or even hooking in general. My hook acc on average is probably like 45-55%
@@temmlygaming5509 I suppose. I always thought of Hammond as more close to Winston's side of the lore. His wrecking ball is definitely more aligned with the Junkers though... So yeah I suppose you're right for saying that!
Your Zen played a huge role in dominating this game. He had perfect orbs for every hook. Not saying flats has a better hog then you, but the discord orb was critical here.
Okay but hes in top 500. Theres an arguement to be made here that in any given situation on zen you should be discording hogs hook everytime. In diamond this type of thing stands out not in top 500. Not tryna be dismissive cause u right but, still.
I saw flats video about 100% win rate and someone said that he was 🧢 bc he lost his mirror match against cyx. Cool to see friendly comp between you guys
I've never understood how Flats is as high as he is. I see him make plays all the time where I think "I'd be dead in this scenario", but for one reason or another he gets away with them. Like the way he got dominated this game should be how it goes for him every match, since this is the typical way he plays.
If the healing numbers weren't so insane right now and Ana didn't hard-counter Hog so much, he'd definitely be a very good pick as a tank. So what if it's a little harder to oneshot 90% of the heroes in the game, if the healing was toned back you'd do like 80% damage and then kill them in the next shot almost every time.
i’ve been saying this^😭 everyone clowns me when i pick hog in comp or they get on vc and yell at me to switch before the game even starts😭 i’m not one of these gold hogs bro i got a 74% win rate this season we GOOD i do swap when the grandma shows up tho he immediately is cheeks imo
How is he not a very good pick? I have almost a 90% win rate in low diamond right now since the rework and I wasn't even a hog player before that. You should be playing corners with pig pen to hook and body block, so if Ana nades you, you're already able to LoS the enemies behind the corner. Plus her nade is irrelevant if you have a LW or Kiriko on your team.
It was a joke. Because he played one game as hog in the new season and joked that he has a 100% win rate this season. Holy shit so many of you are dense or willfully ignorant
He didn't miss the first 2. He connected on Bastion, but it disconnected because he hid behind the corner. Then he hooked Rein, but it disconnected because shield turned into it and disconnected it. Still counts as long as it connects, even if it gets broken by LoS
Yeah been essentially only playing hog past few seasons and he's honestly not as bad as people say sorta like where he is at, it's just rare you get a team that's willing to take picks like kiri lifeweaver to protect you as hog tho when you get omega counter picked by enemy team. Prepared for them to lower his power significantly with this upcoming rework just hope it's not too much.
The one shot nerf just made him a lot more team reliant. You need those people to finish your kills because many times people will survive with 20 hp and run away. It also made his matchup vs Ana a lot more painful because if you hook her and she doesn't die you will get slept and naded instead. So while Hog can work it's just a headache. His counters are as good as they were before but you have a lot less outplay options
Even the counter picks aren't that strong if you're decent. I'd say Bastion Ana is his worst enemy, but as long as you just play angles until you bait his turret form and/or ana nade, then you can just walk in and delete them. Which in most cases is easy since it's not like Bastion is going to flank you lol
Discord orb is literally the only thing Zen has. Do you wanna remove his identity even more than it already has been by heroes like Illari, Ana and Bap?
@@_stfubroskii Hogs hook is litterally the only thing hog has. Do you wanna remove his identity even more than it already has been by heroes like illari, Ana and Bap. Thats the point you made, just changed it to hog. But hog was gutted and getting a rework so why can't zen get the same treatment? If thats the point you are making because of "identity" as a defense then hog shouldn't need a rework and revert his nerfs, if you say hog needs the rework then that makes you biased towards zen. So which is it hog rework then later on the future for zen or cancel rework and keep zen as is.
@@mineinmonkey9787 Well ofourse it doesnt hold up if you are looking at present and compare to the past, zen did got a nerf and change, and hogs rework was mostly a success. The arguement was that hog wasnt viable for many seasons and delayed his rework a few more months leaving him in a state of unviability. Lets not kid ourselves that hog wasnt gutted for 2 whole seasons and was left there for a long time, it still holds up.
Well-I'm just glad that Flats was being a good sport about not being good at the game-instead of babyraging with every breath that he can muster, like he usually does.
I'm not sure if cyx did it knowingly; but wholehogging and letting on on the trigger to move forward and closer to get more damage is a brilliant discovery
For as good as it is no doubt, you still have such a majority of the player base that believe zen is a throw pick solely for his mobility issues. I would argue it’s so good bc that’s all the character has.
Gotta love how in Flats' recent video he says hog is OP and unkillable with no ana on the enemy team and then we see his actual hog gameplay and realize he is literally just spreading anti hog propaganda
Happy to see Flats getting shitted on with Hog. I blame him for the big one shot kill nerf on Hog after being very vocal about it and being connected to Blizzard, then poof, Hog nerfed.
Kid I don't know if you're aware but this game could not have survived 5 more seasons of broken Hog, he needed a change and the nerf at least allows other tank options to be picked, for however long it took to make the rework.
I use to dislike flats because I thought he was the reason hog got gutted. But it was definitely all the golds and plats that made it happen by out bitching everyone, and their lack of headphones for sound queues and shitty positioning is why "hog broken" was on every reddit post. Flats has actually been a hog enjoyer for awhile even back in ow1
Flats really is the worst content creator skill wise if he ever solo queued he'd be no higher than diamond more likely plat. his positioning and mechanical abilities are just not great. You see players like Cyx or Super (I know one of the greatest ever) soloing to #1 effortlessly but flats is carried by teammates who are former pros all the time karq jay3 emongg seagull......
@@Emohjify And i seriously respect that kind of creators, the ones that plays for fun like frogger or bogur, but well, the wannabe tryhards like TheDvanSlam wants everyone to play like their fav streamers.
Lol Flats just posted a video about how he’s got a 100% win rate on hog and people were saying he better hope he doesn’t run into Cyx 😂
@@kaptainkaijuCome on, at least be creative when insulting someone.
@@kaptainkaijuwhy would you say that ?
@@kaptainkaijuyou would not have the balls to say that face to face, but you can cause internet hides you just like your mom would do
Yee
@@edgarcardoso5134 You acting like Flats is gonna do something about it lmfao
1:09
Cyx: Oh they're on hog now...
*Remembers that it's Flats*
*Wait what...*
He could not believe the sentence that just came out of his own mouth 😂
You gotta give flats credit for attempting to mirror what is a mismatch against the best hog player.
Yeah absolutely. Game would be way more fun if people didn't just default to orisa every time
Nah, homie threw all match. Fuck shit like that.
@@youdontknowmegignaYeah ngl, his positioning that match was questionable 😭
@@benbarker7311honestly I'd rather orisa over zarya ..
Anyone hear about the Cyx rework? 20% buff to helmet and 40% better at Jump King
bro this comment is pure gold
But 10% nerf to Mickey Mouse voice :(
can't believe the devs are powercreeping this guy
@@evanstewartryker3505MISKA MOOSKA….
Anything new with the cube?
Flats + Discord Orb = RIP Flats
Ah yes, Flats - the guy notorious for loving Hog. Bet he had fun with this one.
@@kaptainkaijuyou do realize that his content about meta is how he gets large viewership right? Can’t blame the guy for constantly talking about it. Also, most OW creators agree that the game is more fun when Winston and Rein are playable.
@@kaptainkaijuthe tank meta is getting cc’d to oblivion and toppling over. every tank players been bitching including me
@@kaptainkaiju then what was your point
@@kaptainkaiju no he doesn’t💀
found the orisa player
The unsalted diss was fire lol
Cyx “I don’t even think hog is that bad right now. It’s a skill issue” then proceeds to hit a crazy window hook
Hog is actually a beast right now. I have a 90% win rate since his rework (over ~15 games in low diamond). And I'm not even great at hook combo, or even hooking in general. My hook acc on average is probably like 45-55%
We have 3-4* junker tanks... and 1 junker dps. WHEN DO WE GET A JUNKER SUPPORT???
(Besides perhaps Ana)*
The junker support has to use potions
3 tanks. Hammond is the junker champion remember. 4 if count the Dva junker skin
If you're just counting visitors,Ana passed through once. It's in her Conversation with JQ about kicking Red Ned in the whicker basket.
3 junker tanks
Ball is the fighting ring champion
@@temmlygaming5509 I suppose. I always thought of Hammond as more close to Winston's side of the lore. His wrecking ball is definitely more aligned with the Junkers though... So yeah I suppose you're right for saying that!
Your Zen played a huge role in dominating this game. He had perfect orbs for every hook. Not saying flats has a better hog then you, but the discord orb was critical here.
Okay but hes in top 500. Theres an arguement to be made here that in any given situation on zen you should be discording hogs hook everytime. In diamond this type of thing stands out not in top 500. Not tryna be dismissive cause u right but, still.
Bro the hook mechs are nuts keep it up cyx really enjoy your content
'streamer' meets my roadhog! 🤖
content generator complete
I saw flats video about 100% win rate and someone said that he was 🧢 bc he lost his mirror match against cyx.
Cool to see friendly comp between you guys
I've never understood how Flats is as high as he is. I see him make plays all the time where I think "I'd be dead in this scenario", but for one reason or another he gets away with them. Like the way he got dominated this game should be how it goes for him every match, since this is the typical way he plays.
If the healing numbers weren't so insane right now and Ana didn't hard-counter Hog so much, he'd definitely be a very good pick as a tank. So what if it's a little harder to oneshot 90% of the heroes in the game, if the healing was toned back you'd do like 80% damage and then kill them in the next shot almost every time.
i’ve been saying this^😭 everyone clowns me when i pick hog in comp or they get on vc and yell at me to switch before the game even starts😭 i’m not one of these gold hogs bro i got a 74% win rate this season we GOOD i do swap when the grandma shows up tho he immediately is cheeks imo
How is he not a very good pick? I have almost a 90% win rate in low diamond right now since the rework and I wasn't even a hog player before that. You should be playing corners with pig pen to hook and body block, so if Ana nades you, you're already able to LoS the enemies behind the corner. Plus her nade is irrelevant if you have a LW or Kiriko on your team.
DPS diff was significant
Flats was rubbing his ball on your hog ;) Keep it PG boys :D
10:35 "is your name a mike tyson joke?" nahhh no way he just said that
Flats is a real one 100%
Bro is Roadhog 😂
You are a beast with hog. Insane hooks. The God Of Roadhog 100%. Love To watch this game footage❤🔱
Mega W music choice as always CYX 💯💯
Cyx looks like he hasn't told Zoey he loves her yet
only raw overwatch gameplay i enjoy
It's nice that flats decided to mirror hog instead of surrender to the boring horse
What’s that song? It’s f*cking amazing man and good vid cyx
Good old jump king
my two fav streamers:)
Didn’t flats have video saying how he has a 100% win rate on hog??
maybe it was made before this match happened
@eversneak literally said that yesterday on his meta tier list and todays vid saying he has 100% win rate lmao
It was a joke, he only played one game of hog in that vid so he technically has 100% win rate
@@kaptainkaiju Ay bro, can you get a life? Stop talking shit about flats in every commment. The fuck is your problem?
It was a joke. Because he played one game as hog in the new season and joked that he has a 100% win rate this season. Holy shit so many of you are dense or willfully ignorant
What is this background music on the video? It’s great.
Cyx misses first 2 hooks, hooks the lucio. *Stats show 100% hook accuracy*
He didn't miss the first 2. He connected on Bastion, but it disconnected because he hid behind the corner. Then he hooked Rein, but it disconnected because shield turned into it and disconnected it. Still counts as long as it connects, even if it gets broken by LoS
Flats got flatten by a real hog
Did you hear abt the new rework for hog cyx? I can’t wait 🤩
Yeah been essentially only playing hog past few seasons and he's honestly not as bad as people say sorta like where he is at, it's just rare you get a team that's willing to take picks like kiri lifeweaver to protect you as hog tho when you get omega counter picked by enemy team. Prepared for them to lower his power significantly with this upcoming rework just hope it's not too much.
The one shot nerf just made him a lot more team reliant. You need those people to finish your kills because many times people will survive with 20 hp and run away. It also made his matchup vs Ana a lot more painful because if you hook her and she doesn't die you will get slept and naded instead. So while Hog can work it's just a headache. His counters are as good as they were before but you have a lot less outplay options
Even the counter picks aren't that strong if you're decent. I'd say Bastion Ana is his worst enemy, but as long as you just play angles until you bait his turret form and/or ana nade, then you can just walk in and delete them. Which in most cases is easy since it's not like Bastion is going to flank you lol
Cyx is the RoadHog Master
They should make a fisherman hog skin with a fishing rod lol
Did sum1 say hogrider😅🎉🎉🎉😮❤
5:50 nothing to do with Discord Flats, you just got diffed.
Dude the guy got obliterated in six minutes and was 1 kill above the true title he deserves “ 007”
flats complains about discord, but he just got hook all the time. the brother got diffed hard.
what is the background music @Cyx
this guy doing insane hook
I’d pay to see Flats reaction to Cyxs Hog
Just look at his new meta tier list for that.
@@hermitmoth6118i dont think you get the joke
scott pilgrim music? shit caught me off guard when i heard it
That discord orb was truly disgusting. Hope these supports nerfs tackles on it well.
Discord orb is literally the only thing Zen has. Do you wanna remove his identity even more than it already has been by heroes like Illari, Ana and Bap?
@@_stfubroskii Hogs hook is litterally the only thing hog has. Do you wanna remove his identity even more than it already has been by heroes like illari, Ana and Bap.
Thats the point you made, just changed it to hog. But hog was gutted and getting a rework so why can't zen get the same treatment? If thats the point you are making because of "identity" as a defense then hog shouldn't need a rework and revert his nerfs, if you say hog needs the rework then that makes you biased towards zen. So which is it hog rework then later on the future for zen or cancel rework and keep zen as is.
@@rationaldemon195he wasn't "gutted" this comment really did not hold up lmao
@@mineinmonkey9787 Well ofourse it doesnt hold up if you are looking at present and compare to the past, zen did got a nerf and change, and hogs rework was mostly a success. The arguement was that hog wasnt viable for many seasons and delayed his rework a few more months leaving him in a state of unviability. Lets not kid ourselves that hog wasnt gutted for 2 whole seasons and was left there for a long time, it still holds up.
My hog always works
IM SORRY I NEARLY CHOKED U HAVE HOW MUCH HOOK ACCURACY
why would flats hog mirror against cyx? thats trying to winston mirror against fearless lol
Well-I'm just glad that Flats was being a good sport about not being good at the game-instead of babyraging with every breath that he can muster, like he usually does.
"not being good at the game" but in a game with Cyx. So is Cyx not good?
You're gonna have to figure that one out on your own.
@@ernestmendez5487 LoL so you don’t know what you’re talking about. Right.
I'm not sure if cyx did it knowingly; but wholehogging and letting on on the trigger to move forward and closer to get more damage is a brilliant discovery
that is like wholehog 101
Yeah nah. Cyx doesnt know. Hes only having a few thousand hours on him.
you expect THE hog main to not know about something that's essentially roadhog 101
Yep, that's what you want to do. And start it close.
poor flats lost his 100% hog winrate
Poor flats
looks like i am the first to watch him cook
What are your thoughts on the hog rework delay?
I wonder if you can do that Hog trick on Console at 3:02
Of course. Just up-right-left on joystick
Flats used to cry and cry hog was so OP until they finally needed hog.
what is the jumping game?
flats said hog is b tier, that might be why
Cyx how do you consistently land the one shot after hook, everytime i hook in a squishy they get away with one health but you make it look so easy:/
one step forward after hook to make sure you hit the auto attack? I think it is because of the previous hog nerf
How does he still one shot? Whats the tech? Do you go for center mass or head shot?
it can work if you walk into it so you're closer to them or if you jump
Discord orb vs no discord orb makes it so ez not a fair match up
Does anyone know the name of the song playing behind the second match?
How do u not have Gold gun
Does anyone here know that background music time stamp 2:31 !?!
Flats 100% hog wr is gone SAJ
Do Cyx and Flats still have the agreement where Cyx doesn't solo ult Flats and Flats doesn't play Orisa against Cyx?
When was that established?
Unless they reagreed to it, he broke it a couple years ago
yea cyx broke the promise and flats swapped lol
Whats the song at 8:00 ?
Top 1 braphog
Clsoe last game
Why does my road hog only have 550 hp but his has 700 can someone please explain😢
role queue vs open queue
How can anyone defend discord orb at this point. It's so damn broken.
For as good as it is no doubt, you still have such a majority of the player base that believe zen is a throw pick solely for his mobility issues. I would argue it’s so good bc that’s all the character has.
So much flats hate in this section lol
Gotta love how in Flats' recent video he says hog is OP and unkillable with no ana on the enemy team and then we see his actual hog gameplay and realize he is literally just spreading anti hog propaganda
Congratulations on only just discovering the immemorial technique of rhetorical hyperbole.
👍
You are still used to only having 5 shots.
Having said that I totally appreciate your content and watch your videos often. Thank you for your love of the game!
Reinfart
Huge hog diff lol he has no clue how to play him
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Flats has played too many games against you or something. He thinks Hog is good.
I'm so early.
Ice fisherman skin better
Flats is the worst TH-cam ow player, yet better than most average players lol
Happy to see Flats getting shitted on with Hog. I blame him for the big one shot kill nerf on Hog after being very vocal about it and being connected to Blizzard, then poof, Hog nerfed.
Kid I don't know if you're aware but this game could not have survived 5 more seasons of broken Hog, he needed a change and the nerf at least allows other tank options to be picked, for however long it took to make the rework.
why would flats have blizzard in his pocket when every big streamer before 2020 didnt?
I use to dislike flats because I thought he was the reason hog got gutted. But it was definitely all the golds and plats that made it happen by out bitching everyone, and their lack of headphones for sound queues and shitty positioning is why "hog broken" was on every reddit post. Flats has actually been a hog enjoyer for awhile even back in ow1
He was bitching too. Its part of the reason i unsubscribed. He bitched about almost everything.
Hog got gutted because he was busted not because of Flats.
@@_stfubroskii Hog One shooting you isn't busted. It's punishing. Position better.
Ow2 is poopy
Flats really is the worst content creator skill wise if he ever solo queued he'd be no higher than diamond more likely plat. his positioning and mechanical abilities are just not great. You see players like Cyx or Super (I know one of the greatest ever) soloing to #1 effortlessly but flats is carried by teammates who are former pros all the time karq jay3 emongg seagull......
He was also a former pro iirc, he was top 500 OW1 but he's said himself he really isn't interested in grinding out SR anymore
Flats just plays the game to play and enjoy it he has nothing to prove to the person known as TheDvanSlam
@@Emohjify And i seriously respect that kind of creators, the ones that plays for fun like frogger or bogur, but well, the wannabe tryhards like TheDvanSlam wants everyone to play like their fav streamers.
can he not play the game for fun? lmao ranked is terrible now and a lot of people agree
cool
I just watched a flats video called I have a 100% win rate with roadhog.
Fats* meets my roadhog