AFTER RADITZ WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WORST UNITS DOKKAN HAS RELEASED? (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)

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  • @SporadicV2
    @SporadicV2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1266

    Truth I believe you’re confused, Raditz is clearly the Banner unit, he was just cheeks enough to get a 200% lead. The REAL DokkanFest is the chad Nappa!

    • @berkancelik135
      @berkancelik135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      Such a shame Nappa got such a shitty banner unit

    • @FearfulDivine
      @FearfulDivine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The Great Nappa is the real King

    • @fernandosegovia8806
      @fernandosegovia8806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I'm not surprised, after all, Nappa has a higher power level.

    • @frogsterlicous7040
      @frogsterlicous7040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Sucks how Nappa got disrespected by having walmart Sonic as his banner unit

    • @janeswillows1780
      @janeswillows1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cap

  • @toomuchchad5557
    @toomuchchad5557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    It sucks that Raditz did so poorly for sales because it makes me afraid that they will stay away from small characters like him in the future...when in reality the only reason raditz did so poorly was because he has a 2019 character kit that released in 2022. Such a shame.

    • @dabonethug
      @dabonethug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Ong, when they saw the low sales they must’ve been like “damn they don’t like raditz or saiyan saga” which could mess up the development of saiyan saga in the future

    • @SunBro_Talos
      @SunBro_Talos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      It absolutely will affect future character releases lol their sales show that Raditz/saiyan saga doesn’t sell, while fusions/goku and vegeta sell the most. It’s a no brainer what units they’ll focus on in the future 😂

    • @diemaschineistrash3791
      @diemaschineistrash3791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope they stay away most of these small characters are boring and to niche anyway.

    • @doctorsilva1345
      @doctorsilva1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Its not the characters fault its the way they designed him. Lets say they make a Goku card and he is the most useless card in the game because of shit passive and SA effect and becomes the worst DF in sales. Do you think they will stop to make goku cards? This is the devs fault, they dont play their own game.

    • @plushytv5295
      @plushytv5295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@doctorsilva1345 that would never happen. Knowing the devs, he would be the best unit in the game.

  • @bradboy9232
    @bradboy9232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Notice how almost all of these units are villains Dokkan hates villains.

    • @anstorner
      @anstorner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      and Teq

    • @suprshin
      @suprshin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STR Cooler.

    • @maemuki8211
      @maemuki8211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@suprshin yeah theres exceptions. what super units have flopped on release?

    • @smcrevival1467
      @smcrevival1467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@anstorner extreme teq especially

    • @nionlietz2488
      @nionlietz2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anstorner teq has gotten better tbh

  • @ebering4.039
    @ebering4.039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Int Goku Black was very fun on release because remember how he was bugged at first?
    He got like 5 million Atk stats in a time where 2million was considered great

    • @cacanaynay
      @cacanaynay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      wasn't that just a bug on the private server before his actual release

    • @DailyHub_77
      @DailyHub_77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bro I remember that video when it came out. The animations for Rosé where crazy. Truth was baffled at the attack stack.

    • @yeetus5584
      @yeetus5584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he had start of turn defense in rose, with maybe an extra 20% atk and def for extreme class future saga allies or something, he'd be busted

    • @hunterspersonal6401
      @hunterspersonal6401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Int Goku black is still fun, and can be good for long events. But I'm saying, if he gets defense in his passive post eza, easily best tur.

    • @animekingdom4918
      @animekingdom4918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@hunterspersonal6401nah 😅

  • @hadifaisal6701
    @hadifaisal6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    It adds up as raditz is an April fools joke. But in all honesty he seems like a unit that should've come out years ago, maybe near DokkanFest Str coolers time. Would've been a good aoe unit that could've helped back then in sbr and annoying dokkan events with multiple enemies.

    • @thegungerbrospodcast7671
      @thegungerbrospodcast7671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I have a theory that he was meant to be the DFE before LR Vegeta/Nappa came out back in 2020, but for some reason got held back. Which is why this guy and that LR feel so out of place when they released as they came out of nowhere.
      Even his active skill doesn't have his mouth move which just proves he's 2 years late to the party. It's just so weird man that they never fixed him.

    • @dracoblizzard7944
      @dracoblizzard7944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Are you high? They would never release anything at raditz's power level at that time. He would've broken the game. He'd be an immovable wall from turn 1 and the strongest unit in the game once the enemy dropped bellow 50% hp

    • @elias-tt7vx
      @elias-tt7vx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracoblizzard7944 And attacking EVERYONE!!

    • @anstorner
      @anstorner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dracoblizzard7944 if you released STR cooler now, he would be shit, he feels more if a 2020 rather than 2019

    • @hadifaisal6701
      @hadifaisal6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dracoblizzard7944 200% leader skills didn't exist and I believe link leveling was introduced later as well. His defense would be solid (old standard) but his damage would be pretty underwhelming. Overall I'd agree that it could be a possibility he was set for release a long time back cus LGE was prob the hardest event and he would've helped with his defense.

  • @darksiderBR
    @darksiderBR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's funny how some of the units in this video are mainly units designed for long events/ units that need several turns to reach their "powerful form", and I think this is mainly a result of how Dokkan decided to treat this type of content.
    Let's start by analyzing the amount of long events in the game, until Golden Week/Goku day of 2021, there were only 2 long events in the game, the Infinity Dragon Ball History and the Legendary Goku event, with the latter being released in May of 2019, that's literally 2 years without a event that allows especifics characters to work properly, that's why most people consider Sbr the most relevant content, we only had that for 2 years.
    Talking about the events itself(Legendary Goku , Legendary Vegeta and Legendary GT Goku), they are all basically the same, 1 fight on the map that continues for several turns, when you K.O the enemy, he assumes a new stronger form, they are immune to most debuffs from start to finish, being immune to all of them on the final form and also canceling dodge. The way this is built is horrible for units like STR Kefla, by the time she gets to Super Saiyan 2, you are probably close to the end of the end, and her dodge won't be effective. Also Teq Buu and Str Buu, they take so long to get to their final forms, that you would probably die before they transform.
    Another thing is about power creep regarding this especifc events, the difference in difficulty between LGE and GT LGE is so high that units that performed well in the former, probably won't be good anymore.
    The best solution I can see is that they should have released more of this event in those 2 years, that way the powercreep between event wouldn't be so bad, and this units would probably be better seen by the community.
    EDIT: Holy shit, that's huge, sorry for the size and any spelling mistakes

  • @OscarD_77
    @OscarD_77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I don’t think Tapion and Minotia deserve the hate they get, they just need more cards of Tapion and Minotia respectively

    • @mr.vibeboy05
      @mr.vibeboy05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Maybe of the Awakening of the SR Minotia to TUR maybe EZA

    • @davidstinger1134
      @davidstinger1134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think they are fine with AGL Tapion since he can go on the 1st slot and let the LR attack first which he needs in order to get it's damage reduction, their problem is that their ATK stat is just super low, it's 55% DFE TUR-tier.

    • @SuperGuldo
      @SuperGuldo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      which is not gonna happen

    • @danielobryan8992
      @danielobryan8992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Once GoBros gets an EZA and you can run AGL Taption + LR Tapion on one rotation and GoBros on the other, LR Taption will seem a lot better. Right now, have 2 LR Tapions is redundant and there arent any other good Sibling Bond leaders

    • @cheesetomeetyou
      @cheesetomeetyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya, I like using them for a sibling's bond team in battlefield. I'm pretty sure I used him for some esbr too. Might have just been an sbr. I like them. They just have limited usage.

  • @SnipingIsAGoodJobMate
    @SnipingIsAGoodJobMate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Raditz really feels like a scrapped concept for a Dokkanfest unit from years ago that they quickly buffed to release as a new dokkanfest in a rush, but because they didn't test his new kit as much as they should, he ended up still being outdated, both in kit and animations, the animations specially, looking like they are from early 2020.
    This makes a lot of sense when you realize that he leads the Saiyan Saga, a category that honestly they should have added a long time ago.

    • @dabonethug
      @dabonethug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with everything except the animations, the animations are fine

    • @dungtranquoc2788
      @dungtranquoc2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dabonethug I mean I would argue STR Cooler has better animation than Raditz
      Since 2019, differentiate unit between era by just animation alone is hard

  • @JackieBucks
    @JackieBucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    If rainbowed phys raditz is hitting 2 mil attack stats, I can't imagine 55%

    • @user-mp2ks8nt2q
      @user-mp2ks8nt2q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Probably like 900k

    • @fluoridestare4717
      @fluoridestare4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      He hits like 1.5 million with 5/7 links active (LL1 links)

    • @fzen788
      @fzen788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fluoridestare4717 at SA 1 right?

    • @JackieBucks
      @JackieBucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fluoridestare4717 garbage as I assumed

    • @ed1434
      @ed1434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just watch either Truth or Dokkan World's 55% raditz showcase 🗿

  • @rooster301
    @rooster301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Even after going through the memory lane of all these cards I can definitely say Raditz is the single worst unit "on release". He is unimpressive both offensively and defensively. His leader skill is certainly powerful, but you're mostly using it for pure saiyans boost and I'd rather use EZA AGL SSBE Vegeta for that. Everyone else in the video had either incredible offensive power or something to their kit if they weren't a good unit overall and if they were horrendous defensively like Teq Ssj3 Broly, you could get away with it because defense back then didn't matter as much and you'd just put up high atk numbers with him.

    • @superiorkaos
      @superiorkaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      nah raditz can atleast tank somewhat well in the most diffcult event in the game. Agl bardock took 60k per normal in agl extreme sbr the most difficult event in the game when he released.
      in comparison to recent dokkanfests raditz is bad and while other characters were 'in line' with previous dokkanfests doesnt make them good

    • @greenmonkeyman3165
      @greenmonkeyman3165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Teq HIT was definitely the worst on release. He dropped around the same time as LR K&C who were defensive menaces and he had literally no defensive boost.

    • @trolltelos2266
      @trolltelos2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@greenmonkeyman3165 yeah but he had a SBR niche. Raditz? He has ok defense but still gets killed in harder stages. His damage is lackluster unless he’s fighting a single enemy. His leader skill is mainly used for pure Saiyans but you have Blue Vegeta and Super Vegeta both being better and having a niche for X content.

    • @SoccYT
      @SoccYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uh do people remember broly trio? They literally just exist for no reason.

    • @greenmonkeyman3165
      @greenmonkeyman3165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trolltelos2266 the thing is hit’s niche was not reliable. Like if he got touched or it didn’t proc he was dead. He has a niche that would be great against one enemy that was only really useable in a multi enemy event; SBR.

  • @bryceadams4297
    @bryceadams4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Out of all these characters, SSB Kaioken is the most interesting to me bc he could easily get an EZA just like Hit and they wouldn’t even have to do much. He literally just needs more defense, maybe a small tweak to his attack and the full 170 leader skill and you got yourself a busted ass unit on like 11 or 12 teams

    • @sovereignsigma9553
      @sovereignsigma9553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No no no don’t give him the “just needs defense” they did that with lr gohan and look how that turned out

    • @shirothr5384
      @shirothr5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sovereignsigma9553 Well I mean, SSB kaioken still can get a really high attack stat.
      He honestly just needs his defense and potentially somewhat added attack and defense and perhaps dmg reduc would be coolio

    • @wyattcar4071
      @wyattcar4071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      doesn't the lr gods give him a 200% lead already?

    • @bryceadams4297
      @bryceadams4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sovereignsigma9553 nah that’s an abomination, they fumbled the bag with him way harder than they should’ve

    • @Kenny_YT1
      @Kenny_YT1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...... you called that shit fr

  • @lpesic1159
    @lpesic1159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Tapion and Minotia are quirky but they’re so good with eza Tapion. Such a good rotation.

  • @jonasengel6328
    @jonasengel6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Real talk for a second: LR Tapion carried me through a few super battle road stages and I used them for the legendary Vegeta event and they did fine as a 2nd slot with a rotation with AGL tapion. Around 200k defense at 55% + the damage reduction also worked fine for me. The unit doesnt hit that hard tbf, but with AGL tapion they have the perfect linking partner and a godlike rotation. They are a really good 2nd slot unit for me tbh. Actually like using the unit so Truth maybe use them more?

    • @nicolasmartinez4337
      @nicolasmartinez4337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      love that rotation theyre such a fun unit to run especially with their active skill

    • @oscaratriano8534
      @oscaratriano8534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but lr tapion is not on many categories as well as the fact that he doesn’t link well with other units on his own categories (agl tapion being the exception).

    • @jonasengel6328
      @jonasengel6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oscaratriano8534 Str God Goku and Hit have the same problem tho. They need another Hit to link well, have not much teams but are an excellent unit. Given they are miles better then LR Tapion, but they also where released half a year later, yet Truth rates them very highly. Both units have the same issues tho: weird link sets and not much cateories to put them in.

    • @hidan1931
      @hidan1931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonasengel6328 LR hit and god Goku link amazing w Agl MUI Goku

    • @jonasengel6328
      @jonasengel6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hidan1931 they share 4 links with each other. You know who also shares 4 links with LR god goku and hit? Lr Tapion so wheres your point? Tbf I think LR God Goku and Hit does have the better team and better links, im just saying, LR Tapion legitimatly is a good unit and doesnt deserve being on this list. Do keep in mind that the LR God Goku and Hit came out half a year later. This isnt a comparison between the units. I am just pointing out how the wonky link set shouldnt be used against the unit if other units have the same problem.

  • @nachideku
    @nachideku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Int Rose was my first powerhouse unit when I started playing. My team was kinda lack luster until I was able to get the medals for LR Trunks and Mai. Then I got Supreme Oppai and AGL adult Gotenks and eventually my first main team was a time travelers team. Ah good times

  • @somethingoriginal1707
    @somethingoriginal1707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Still can't believe we're in a timeline where Videl is more powerful than Raditz

    • @belfast4893
      @belfast4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk is that worse or the fact we have a Ginyu card that is comparable to a SSJ3 goku…

    • @dungtranquoc2788
      @dungtranquoc2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@belfast4893 Here's the worst one
      Ginyu has 3 better card (AGL, INT and the LR PHY) than every single Goku Black card in the game

    • @christiancasaverdepertica1802
      @christiancasaverdepertica1802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, we never did learn what her power level was

    • @josiahwatson8158
      @josiahwatson8158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m pretty sure Videl in both manga and anime at her peak in the MBS can solo Raditz

    • @sacred7738
      @sacred7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josiahwatson8158 Yea not a debate, Raditz can't take one hit from spopovich. lol

  • @dungtranquoc2788
    @dungtranquoc2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    TEQ Ssj3 Broly: One of the hardest hitter at the time
    STR Super Buu: Lead one of the best team at the time, great upon transform
    INT Goku Black: Same as Super Buu
    TEQ Hit: Great debuffer for SBR, literally the hardest content at the time
    AGL Zamasu: 280% ATK wtf more did you expect at the time
    LR INT Cell: One of the best SBR unit (maybe still withing the top even now)
    LR Trio Androids: A summonable LR that supports, exchange and lead a real team, plus they're great at the time
    LR Trio Broly: Guagratee dodge with 7 orbs
    AGL Bardock: I bet he has carried you at least once through some long event mission
    STR Blue Kaioken Goku: Literally no one think he's bad on release
    LR Nappa Vegeta: Great in SBR, WT, solid in long event due to the exchange
    TEQ Exchange Buu: Just Super Buu, all you need to Super Buu
    STR Kefla: If you can't give 3 TUR that did 4mil ATK turn 3 at the time, you can't call her bad
    TEQ Gohan: For the meme
    TEQ Janemba: Tankier than your personal favorite unit at the time
    LR PHY 17 & Golden Frieza: Solid in long event
    STR Videl: How could a unit considered best TUR by half the community be mid?
    LR Tapion & Minosa: Try using AGL Tapion
    LR Super 17: "Weird" and "Mid" are a complete different word
    LR Goku & Piccolo: Same as Super 17
    LR 7th year: For the meme again
    You can call all these unit mid but you can't deny those point, they got use, specialty despite their weirdness, but not for Raditz, you can't point out anything he's doing that is special, therefore, he's the worse premium unit ever released
    "Mid" is not the word to describe Raditz, it's "Bad"

    • @christiancasaverdepertica1802
      @christiancasaverdepertica1802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jokes on you, TEQ Janemba was my favorite unit at that time.... It was a weird point for me ok?

    • @mariozappini7784
      @mariozappini7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LR super 17 isn't weird, and as someone who uses him a lot he's not bad by any means, however he's designed like shit.
      An LR super 17 without ki absorption? Really? Also he's the "best" leader for GT bosses and he just cannot function on that team since he needs androids and he's the only Android on the team.
      He should have gotten ki absorption like 19/20 and have all his Android and target goku passives work for GT bosses aswell, and give him the Big bad bosses link ffs.

    • @dungtranquoc2788
      @dungtranquoc2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mariozappini7784 "Super 17 isn't weird"
      *15 words later
      "He's designed like shit"
      What the hell bro?
      Weird = shit design
      Weird NOT = mid

    • @mariozappini7784
      @mariozappini7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dungtranquoc2788 Being weird doesn't mean designed like shit, a unit like the para para brothers is weird but they are well designed and work properly for their tags (still can't believe they aren't on space travelling warriors tho) super 17 isn't weird, he's just terribly designed and legit ignores entirely the category he was supposed to lead.

    • @dungtranquoc2788
      @dungtranquoc2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariozappini7784 I hope we do agree on that "weird" here mean weird design, and it specifically point at something not good, something odd, Super 17 design is exactly that
      I mean using "weirdly design" seem better than "shit design" am I right?

  • @postplatmedia
    @postplatmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The real video title: how to milk content out of the game when a trash unit drops that I can’t make 300 videos showing him on different teams

  • @x.enigma
    @x.enigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    There’s like, a TEQ Raditz that debuffs the enemy AND allies, so I guess Raditz cards were always bad!
    Correction : he BUFFs the enemy 💀

    • @albyy2406
      @albyy2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That card actually BUFFS both the enemy and allies, which is worse in my opinion

    • @elias-tt7vx
      @elias-tt7vx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@albyy2406 he...whats?

    • @fzen788
      @fzen788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The SR?..

    • @luislazotheoof
      @luislazotheoof 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@fzen788 yeah. 25% ATK to both allies and enemies when HP was 30% or more/less, I think.

    • @x.enigma
      @x.enigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@albyy2406 OH YEAH LMAO that’s so stupid 😭

  • @zonatedcash7026
    @zonatedcash7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This feels like one of the f2p units they release that need an eza right away

  • @manuelliberatore9598
    @manuelliberatore9598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah it feels like he should have come out 1-1,5 years ago, like, if he came out right after 6th anniversary before we got all the op turs he would have been a good unit, not groundbreaking but good. It's like they forgot about him, they just slapped the extra 30% to his leader to make him look good and called it a day, you can even tell from his active that he's kinda old

  • @michaelsteely1326
    @michaelsteely1326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It’s not a DFE or an LR, but we can’t forget the goat TEQ Piccolo and his performance when he released

    • @JmisterYT
      @JmisterYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or int Android 16

    • @walaoekiasoh582
      @walaoekiasoh582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chad Piccolo vs Chad int Android 16, who would win?

    • @jamaalbarnett9186
      @jamaalbarnett9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@walaoekiasoh582 depends are we talking the super strike 16 or the ssj gohan support 16?

  • @iamnotapotato.5
    @iamnotapotato.5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I 100% agree on int rose. On release i got him 69% and he was crushing content. His lack of defense was apparent though. He carried a ton of my legendary goku event runs though. His animations were just so clean. I actually link leveled him to 10 and still use him every now and then. And seeing as i have never pulled phy goku black I can say I’ve used him 1042 times. His team was decent too. Can’t wait for his eza. I really hope he’s like evo vegeta, turles etc and not like ss3 broly

    • @theguy7585
      @theguy7585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i remember being so happy about getting him on release because his animations are so clean, and after having come back to the game a couple months ago from a 3ish year break, it's really apparent that he could use an EZA

  • @degenerativewalnut9079
    @degenerativewalnut9079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Truth at the beginning of the video:
    I was there when AGL Super Vegito was released, 3000 years ago

  • @bananaslamma1835
    @bananaslamma1835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love that all the units shown after raditz were ext teq til tapion and minotia

  • @MisterGabyVk
    @MisterGabyVk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really hope his EZA makes him justtice. Also Truth u predicted the 2023 Worldwide LRs more than a year before their release.

  • @issamdjadja8701
    @issamdjadja8701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it makes me so sad they made super 17 so bad, he should've absorbed ki blasts and increased his att when he did just like the show

    • @christiancasaverdepertica1802
      @christiancasaverdepertica1802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would have been amazing, but you already know his damage would have been ass until he gets hit with a few ki supers

    • @tema7507
      @tema7507 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they just hate him

  • @richardshiflett5181
    @richardshiflett5181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hit sucks as most his passive requires the target be stunned.
    Most bosses are immune to stun.

  • @jimmypope6576
    @jimmypope6576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayo truth, love the vid!! You gotta make best aging units after this would be an interesting list!

  • @cam-899
    @cam-899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like Nappa was the real dokkan fest he overshadows Baditz by so much

  • @marshiisisland9385
    @marshiisisland9385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Raditz really should’ve just been “150% ATK & DEF; 50% ATK & DEF on SA; 50% DR when facing 2 or more enemies; crits and 100% ATK & 150% DEF after receiving an attack; scouter

    • @thatoneguy5001
      @thatoneguy5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This and Immense damage would’ve made him god tier

    • @marshiisisland9385
      @marshiisisland9385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatoneguy5001 yeah the fact that he even has supreme as a 2022 DFE is wild to me.. what were they thinking?

  • @CarlosHuiskens
    @CarlosHuiskens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm kinda leaning towars the idea that Raditz was an older designed unit meant to be an LR. Maybe a part 2 summonable LR for a Saiyan Saga celebration. But they held off on the Saiyan Saga and simply forgot about this Raditz. So now they needed something quick to sqeeuze in. They slapped a 200% leader skill on him and call it a day. He simply feels out of place. He for example wouldn't be my top pick to be the first leader of a Saiyan Saga category. They easily could have given that to the Anniversary Legendary Summon LR's. Also his additional 30% to Space Traveling Warriors only benefits a few characters.

  • @randomdbfan6527
    @randomdbfan6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I shall not take the tapion and minotia slander, they're way better people give them credit for, they perform way better then raditz and any other unit mentioned on this video, no way they need to be on here

    • @StarNameKev
      @StarNameKev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even you have to admit the build up damage reduction and medium chance to super at 14 ki is pretty mid design tbh

    • @randomdbfan6527
      @randomdbfan6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarNameKev I'm not saying they're well designed, of course they have big holes in their kit but saying that they where nearly as bad when they came out as raditz is now is utter bs, they could help out at least in some difficult esbr stages or on teams that didn't had a lot of units, radizt had literally 0 uses as of now and helps accomplish nothing you can't do already with other units

  • @HikariOblivion
    @HikariOblivion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pure saiyans honestly needed a good leader, and that good leader arrived IMMEDIATELY before Raditz showed up drunk and late to the party.
    What really gets me is that Raditz doesn't give himself substantial ki for World Tournament, because I could see him being a pretty decent WT lead otherwise.

  • @KisukexMomohime
    @KisukexMomohime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The funniest thing about Tapion & Minotia is that they in no way helped Videl just like the Goten support unit.

    • @gito7604
      @gito7604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just straight up forgot to give her a support unit

  • @Rolithius
    @Rolithius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vegeta and Nappa still underrated as hell under that 200% with good partners they can do a 5 mil aoe which for how people view them is so good

  • @brandito5480
    @brandito5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:50 That goku blacks animations after he transforms is woooo boy

  • @dboneyous3258
    @dboneyous3258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They would probably sell more stones for summons if it wasn’t 20$ for 1 chance at the unit 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

  • @NoName-di4qq
    @NoName-di4qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel there is a bit of revisionist history with Hit
    I remember when he was a global exclusive, JP cried and cried forever until they got him. At the time, he was the first duel leader unit qnd his stun/debuff was very powerful for OG SBR
    Hit aged fastly, but I don't even see how his release is even close to as bad as Raditz.
    Raditz has a redundant leader skill and has 0 uses. He sucks everywhere

    • @mrmister5609
      @mrmister5609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah hit was litteraly dead on release nobody wanted him

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hit had 0 DEF when DEF was already important. His stuns were the only good thing about him... and the thing with them is that they only worked in SBR. Hit was atrocious before his EZA.

    • @NoName-di4qq
      @NoName-di4qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@_Seru_ You are looking at it through todays lense
      Back when he was first released he was considered good
      All this shit is archived lmao don't believe me if you want, but the proof is there

    • @NoName-di4qq
      @NoName-di4qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrmister5609 Everything you said is easily disprovable by going back and seeing for yourself
      Check twitter, reddit, and youtube. Just seaech "Hit" + the date he was released
      When Hit was first released, people were hyping him up. Then he aged very fast.

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NoName-di4qq I'm not. DEF was already pretty important in 2019 and Hit had NONE, he wasn't even remotely good when he released. People were in denial because he was a global first, that's the only thing - and the same thing happened with STR SSJBKK who, according to some people, was better then STR COOLER back in the day only because he was a global first and people wanted it to be real.

  • @Darklusterangel
    @Darklusterangel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Truth is suffering from whale syndrome where he has every unit rainbowed and he doesnt have to run weaker teams and because of that he doesn't realise T and M are the best leader for Siblings bond and they make the team runnable because they can tank fairly well and have the utility with their active skill, if you link them with AGL Tapion you have a perfect slot 1 and 2 combo. I don't think they belong on this list at all.

  • @jeppeflojborg3292
    @jeppeflojborg3292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:17 this sounded so heartfelt

  • @aokiri3064
    @aokiri3064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do more of these discussion videos, interesting to hear your takes on dokkan

  • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
    @DragonoftheDarknessFlame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I beat USS original stage with Hit so I never slandered him and Truth did no item a stage with pre EZA Hit and benching Teq Gohan. That was one of the greatest no item run in the history of Dokkan. STR Super Buu I hate that unit with all my heart and I hate the cappers. OH HE HAS200K DEFENSE AFTER 5 TURNS meanwhile he's taking 400K for the 5 turns

  • @belfast4893
    @belfast4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honesty I am surprised the GT trio weren’t mentioned at all. Upon release, their kit was just a budget Goku Frieza who came out 4 months ago on JP, or almost a year on Global.
    Their leader skill led one of the worst teams during their time, and their passive required full dragon ball seekers to not struggle for ki.

    • @dungtranquoc2788
      @dungtranquoc2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Being a worse Goku Frieza isn't bad because Goku Frieza are literally far in away the best unit in the game (can be argued with LR Ssj4 Goku)
      And although DB Seekers is just full of F2P unit, it's actually very fun and very capable, some people can no item Super Class SBR, one of the hardest stage at the time, with that team, and of course LR GT Trio carry it hard

    • @Julian-mc3tc
      @Julian-mc3tc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The GT Trio was really good back then, good defense, easy 4m+ damage and DB seekers was a good team too

  • @leviathan_is_me
    @leviathan_is_me 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you hit the nail on the head with the release issues of Raditz. They had to scramble with the setbacks to Super Hero and probably didn't have the unit tested and ready but had to release as-is to stall for time. They couldn't release ANYTHING to do with the movie.

  • @TommyRayzer
    @TommyRayzer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You cannot make this up. He has an "Attack all" Super, then the first conditional part of his passive is "ATK & DEF +50% when performing a Super Attack when facing 1 enemy"... Lol what? His Super is AOE but you give him a SA buff against only 1 enemy? What? He is so bad. They should have given him the DFE Videl treatment since they knew Videl wasn't a good enough character to drive sales so they have her an amazing kit. Raditz should have been given the same. He is trash.

  • @dumbahawk
    @dumbahawk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With LR STR Tapion and Minotia you can at least run them on all their Category teams (-Joined Forces) with EZA AGL Tapion and do decently well with them in slot 2 and AGL Tapion in slot 1

  • @FutureHNDRXX
    @FutureHNDRXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His passive may activate mid-turn, but every turn with Raditz on IS a MID TURN lmao

  • @pr1m0rdi4l
    @pr1m0rdi4l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should’ve just made all those stat boosts non conditional but made it so he gets a guaranteed additional when facing one enemy that’s it

  • @NoU-tt9nl
    @NoU-tt9nl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sad thing is that this accident will result in us never seeing another dfe raditz again

  • @T1_Tilapia
    @T1_Tilapia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that most of the characters in the list are Extreme Teq

  • @Rivr_Shen
    @Rivr_Shen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    INT Goku Black has my favorite SA animation after transforming. Obv he's not that great but it's still an amazing animation

  • @silfes3036
    @silfes3036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Raditz is like an LR without the r

  • @Monkey_MagicMan
    @Monkey_MagicMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the main reason the stone sales were so poor is that we all got 277 free stones very recently from that EZA event

  • @MuffinButton_MC
    @MuffinButton_MC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The skull shaver ad though 💀💀

  • @mitch3503
    @mitch3503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many str characters in WT using LR nappa and vegeta with maybe a bulma support does the job quite easily. Although I hate playing WT they are useful there. One of my most anticipated EZAs because I love the animations and their kit.

  • @MediocreMiddie
    @MediocreMiddie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teq ssj3 broly's eza was a crime. If they actually gave him not a - to his ki gathering mechanic. Dude hits hard but gets slapped back.

  • @Blaze11592
    @Blaze11592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a video of units that have aged poorly and ones that will age poorly but are decent/runnable now

  • @porknbacon_
    @porknbacon_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Waiting for lr str tapion and minotia with agl tapion vs the red zone video, even if it won’t ever come out

  • @Curtis._.Alpha.
    @Curtis._.Alpha. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized that my account is older then his, I started playing during the Goku black SSR & Vegito SSB Banners. 6 years almost

  • @NICOCLASH
    @NICOCLASH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:30 I'm not even sure you could balance a character with no def in passive, except giving 100% dodge against certain character, or something absolutely silly as 80+% damage reduction by default, guaranteed aoe stun, 20+% hp regen and infinite massive raise atk/def with guaranteed 3 supers, and active skill bee pan's buff

  • @EricGamer87365
    @EricGamer87365 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love coming back to these vids

  • @kevinfoster7290
    @kevinfoster7290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Raditz immediately needs an LR that is like a Saiyan saga LR the buffs the team to make him good. IMAGINE if you would an LR that featured raditz napa and Vegeta. Like a revive or exchange or something but it could really help. I'm thinking a triple revive. Raditz dies goes to Napa then Napa to Vegeta. Or raditz exchanges to Napa who revives to Vegeta. That would be dope.

  • @willchalloner6643
    @willchalloner6643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey you take that back, I love Tapion and Minotia
    Granted I’ve got a giant bias to the sibling bond team

    • @suprshin
      @suprshin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They really do have their use. I attribute them in helping me clear the GT Goku mission.

  • @infernospark090
    @infernospark090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now is it possible to do some of the most busted units on release besides anniversary and Download celebration Lrs. So characters like Teq Ulthan, Str Cooler, Lr K&C, Lr Jiren

  • @illusPlatypus
    @illusPlatypus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another one was JPs PHY Goku Black release
    Absolutely terrible unit

  • @hughmungus986
    @hughmungus986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    STR ssb kaioken goku was good on release. getting attacked 6 times for full passive was unheard of but with his active skill he was a bee pan on crack

  • @pree76
    @pree76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Biggest issue with dokkan units is that they only make really good units that good by accident

    • @suprshin
      @suprshin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I could argue this.

  • @sigma--boss7098
    @sigma--boss7098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish Akatsuki watched Truth's videos and took notes. The game would be so much more amazing if they heard people that actually play the game and know what's wrong with it and give good suggestions like him.

    • @belfast4893
      @belfast4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes please, I want every unit to have 70% chance to dodge, all allies ki + 4 atk and def + 40%, along with an entire field of rainbow orbs, who needs Color orbs, just rainbow

  • @dabidcastillo8297
    @dabidcastillo8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Un personaje que jamás me gustó desde que salió es Zamasu Agl Transformable, su reducción de daño no era suficiente para su baja defensa, recuerdo que cuando salió ni siquiera era posible vencer el LGE con él a 55%, incluso rainbow tomaba mucho daño cuando recibía un súper ataque y en ese entonces no habían muchos líderes de ROG así que era usarlo o poner al Goku UI LR que no muchos tenían.

  • @Optclzr
    @Optclzr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Int goku black is prob still my favorite Unit. I love his animations and i have him link lvl 10. I N E E D his eza right now

  • @AstralDrumNBass
    @AstralDrumNBass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I honestly feel like Teq Janemba should've been on this list. 0 Ki links and needing more orbs for his passive then Pikkon just really made him feel very mid at release.

    • @NoName-di4qq
      @NoName-di4qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. Also, no rainbow orb changing.
      The release of LR Janemba did nothing to help him either
      Teq Janemba was shit and is shit

    • @zaryabK-vi8fh
      @zaryabK-vi8fh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoName-di4qq well if he had a good partner he is tanky

    • @StarNameKev
      @StarNameKev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoName-di4qq nah he's not shit, but his design is shit lol

  • @Blastburn32
    @Blastburn32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lr super 17 will always be good to me cyz he dropped on my bday. Got him 1st multi too. Any unit released on my bday gets some brownie points

  • @WraysCustoms
    @WraysCustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When INT Goku Black first came out I was very disappointed. Saying he was "better when he first came out" is true technically, but he was still really bad and no one can tell me otherwise. He had the same problem as the 5th year LRs did where he stacked defense very slowly even after he transformed.

  • @DarkSamusFan11
    @DarkSamusFan11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can certainly agree about TEQ Hit ON RELEASE. AFTER his EZA tho, he's pretty damm good imo.

  • @Oreooos
    @Oreooos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rewatching this I forgot super buu was even a character I actually don’t think I have him

  • @philipgunter3717
    @philipgunter3717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You haven’t used Tapion and Minotia in about 3 Months, Sibling’s Bond SBR

  • @tony_xcvii
    @tony_xcvii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    maybe he’s not that bad, but I haven’t used kid gohan since I got him in his first return banner

    • @demonzangelz9575
      @demonzangelz9575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He's great, his damage is bad but his defense and utility is beyond helpful

    • @Simpin4Robin
      @Simpin4Robin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He has great utility outside his damage. He's really good.

    • @keepyourselfsafe6554
      @keepyourselfsafe6554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kid gohan is basically like a banner unit hidden as a dokkan fest, i like him but he is never the "spotlight" of the teams you use him
      But his active is pretty awesome

    • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
      @DragonoftheDarknessFlame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I haven't used him at all. Truth hyped him to all hell and he has no spots on my team

    • @lucasrodriguez550
      @lucasrodriguez550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DragonoftheDarknessFlame then you dont know how to make a team

  • @hibarica
    @hibarica 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Transforming goku black was really good in the first LGE lol he destoyed it

  • @isaiahz100
    @isaiahz100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what do you think Kaioken Blue Goku needs in his EZA to be a top notch unit? I’ve loved him since his release so seeing how weak he is now hurts

    • @cjcarter9672
      @cjcarter9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, his kit can be somewhat special. I'd make it where he greatly stacked attack and defense. Start him off with 159 percent attack and defense at start of turn. Make the attack and defense buff on hits max out at 100 instead of 59. Maybe make his active skill slightly better by having 3 instead of 6 USS units. The rest can honestly stay the same. I'm like you, I would love for them to make that unit busted.

  • @MattRamn
    @MattRamn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Int LR Cell should get a mention too. Him and Gohan were definitely disappointing but Gohan could stack at least. Cell was bad on release except in super battle road until he got buffed from the link level update and even then he wasn't meta. He was incredibly disappointing considering how hype of a character he is and that its obvious they nerfed him before release due to his kit having absolutely nothing to do with the meta at the time. I'm hoping his EZA will be god tier especially since he's probably the only transforming Perfect Cell we will get.

    • @aarongregory4980
      @aarongregory4980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cell and gohan are almost certainly the most disappointing releases in dokkan history but I don’t think I’d say among the worst. Cell was definitely not as good as he should’ve been but he was still probably a top 10-15 unit in the game on his release which isn’t something you can say for the rest of these characters.

  • @jerrydavis8806
    @jerrydavis8806 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Int goku black was one of my favorites units when I first got him. He bad now but b4 he was the only unit I had with defense

  • @ricardosegarrairizarry8396
    @ricardosegarrairizarry8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised there is no slander music for this one.

  • @crazycresp2373
    @crazycresp2373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot lr broly cheelai and lemo. I dont blame you though, everybody has forgotten about them.

  • @gunslinger2611
    @gunslinger2611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a redzone stage for Zamasu, Jiren lol, Majin buu,etc

  • @Rainos62
    @Rainos62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been playing since year one. If we are talking about on release teq hit, ssj3 broly or raditz would be the worst. hit was dead on arrival.

  • @azureking-jordan
    @azureking-jordan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Raditz really the best april fools joke dokkan ever made!

  • @sacred7738
    @sacred7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bardock is legit fodder, idk how people acted as if he was up there with cooler before.

  • @ThatSillyToast
    @ThatSillyToast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would imagine later down the road that raditz and super 17 will get a eza and probably actually be good.

  • @Sloxyian
    @Sloxyian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that in the near future Int goku black, str transforming majin buu and str ssgss kaioken goku will get an EZA that will give them new stats or boost the stats that they already have

  • @Sporkyfk
    @Sporkyfk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After Raditz💀

  • @ufw_alexx
    @ufw_alexx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love when truth goes off on super 17 every time he can shit is so funny 😭💀💀💀💀🤣🤣

  • @goji8755
    @goji8755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes sense this raditz isn’t busted since if you’ve seen the leaks for dbs super hero you would know what’s coming

    • @therealprophet2488
      @therealprophet2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those leaked about raditz has been proven to be fake

    • @goji8755
      @goji8755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@therealprophet2488 no actually, they haven’t been “proven” fake at all. There is no proof that it’s fake besides speculation on why it looks like that

    • @therealprophet2488
      @therealprophet2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goji8755 no it's actually fake if you just look at the picture itself because first of all the movie is being worked on and animated in CGI the whole movie is being done in CGI yet this raditz "leak" is in 2d animation which isn't in the movie whatsoever and again the raditz leak looks like it's screenshotted off a phone or a picture from a phone in a movie theater with terrible quality and might I add Toei doesn't work with low quality equipment when it comes to movies and third Toei animation already came out and said that the movie itself is 95 percent done which means all the animators are done with making the movie so this raditz "leak" is even more proven to be bullshit when Toei doesn't even mention anything about the supposed raditz leak and it wouldn't fit the narrative of the movie also like c'mon really make it make sense my guy

  • @SomeoneNamedMark
    @SomeoneNamedMark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Broly Chili and limo are actually the worst and im shocked you didnt mention them.

  • @freieza9294
    @freieza9294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some honorable mentions I would add would be Lr Trunks & Mai, although they were at least viable for Future SBR. Also the Lr Androids, but with them 16 was pretty stupidly good when they came out. Also Future Gohan, who had a wanky defense, but atleast a decent Leader with Future and last but not least LR Full Power Frieza who seemed kind of odd and wanky as well when he came out. Gohan and Frieza are the two most comparable to Raditz I would say atleast when they releasd

  • @noobnapalmwarfare2
    @noobnapalmwarfare2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm surprised Teq SS2 Vegeta wasn't on the list. He is just so wonky and hard to run because of the way they did him. His type changing and then losing prepared for battle really hurts his ability to be run on a variety of teams.

    • @SoccYT
      @SoccYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what? Hes far and above a great aging unit. You're actually on something. He's able to be run on extreme majin buu saga teams which is enough for him. He links well with int majin vegeta and still has some of the best effects.

  • @no.12papangkornkaewklad27
    @no.12papangkornkaewklad27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tabs says:
    Unleash mythic assasin cereal killer true epito shocking very final split rampage transformation.

  • @kevingarcia28100
    @kevingarcia28100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was there like the first 2 weeks the game came out… i can’t believe I’m still here lol

  • @noskcaj1163
    @noskcaj1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me waiting for every single unit I was proud to pull to be named

  • @pokemonwilliams2176
    @pokemonwilliams2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Teq shit pre Eza was way worse than raditz. But we need a 100% R bido showcase along with the god chiaoman

    • @Akaketsugami
      @Akaketsugami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wow 2 dead memes in one comment

    • @Zikuu_
      @Zikuu_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually hit did decent in sbr and sold better. Raditz is the worst performing dokkanfest ever and is lowkey the worst unit on release

    • @pokemonwilliams2176
      @pokemonwilliams2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Akaketsugamiidc if they are dead memes. As long as I'm dead with them that's what matters. A true dead king always goes down with the best unit in the game

    • @Akaketsugami
      @Akaketsugami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pokemonwilliams2176 cringe

    • @SpidermanFanatic4293
      @SpidermanFanatic4293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Call him teq shit it would be a very funny meme

  • @darknesswave100
    @darknesswave100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't understand how they shit the bed on a banner unit like raditz and then release Nappa right alongside him and he's better by however much. Seems like it should have been the other way around. it's like they gave the responsibility for it to an intern