Rome wasn't the capital by then, and the Visigoths just took the gold without negotiation. We know that they didn't take all the gold, as both the Vandals and (ironically enough), the Eastern Roman Empire took more. The gold which was on the Pantheon's roof was taken by an Eastern Roman Emperor, btw.
Decadence begins when the gold spent on displaying wealth exceeds that spent on defending it. The rampant corruption meant that provinces were highly localized administrations and not extensions of the Senate in transit ie the Imperator aka the Caesar's will. Flavius Aetius, Stilicho, Marjorian- all three of them were figures who could have saved Rome. But there were all victims of the Power Sharing Paradox as presented by Isaac Asimov. Basically whenever you have any combination of a general and an Emperor, typically one of them will betray the other. Typically. Stilicho and Aetius were killed by their Emperors, Marjorian was betrayed by his co-ruler. Rome could have survived if the will to make the Empire survive prevailed among its citizenry and its elites as much as it did among its rulers. Like I said... decadence- when sons have grown fat on their father's toils without understanding the whys or wherefores. The patricians owned vast tracts of land thry did not work appropriately and had to rely on slaves to do the work. While honest citizens were denied good farmland.
@@anirbanbhattacharya9185 yeah, I've always had the notion that a strong sense of nationalism instilled and indoctrinated into the roman people throughout its' classes could have saved them, as soldiers would be less likely to flee and fight more fiercely, and the rulers and generals would have been working more towards the benefit of the empire than their own.
Afro Man True but by the law of unintended consequences it did result in a rather bad affair as when Rome was attacked after being lazy and paying off a invader for decades, they’ve alienated former allies by saying they weren’t considered Roman based on race That may also be at fault to the Roman education system- See James Madison, Cicero’s criticism of the education system and the Greek slave education system compared to today’s it’s nearly the same and the function is the same just with different wording However that is Ethnicity passing off as nationality and neglect of the government for doing the opposite of what Rome did before which was alienate and isolate themselves
It should be noted that 4-5 centuries later when Ceasar invaded Gaul, he was surprised to find out that the druids there knew the exact date when Rome was sacked by Brennus. The Gauls were not as barbaric and as divided as the Romans thought they were and they actually had a common history although it was probably orally passed down rather than being written.
Gauls were still pround, that they were able to sack Rome 4 centruis earlier, so Caesar decided to conquer the whole of Gaul for Roman empire and make them slaves to pay taxes for the Roman empire.
If you want to watch the campaign gameplay for the Rise of the Republic, check out the video from our friend Lionheart, he is one of the best in the let's play business: th-cam.com/video/wiMgQAe4Sp8/w-d-xo.html There are multiple depictions of this conflict, and modern historians often disagree with the primary sources. Yet, we decided to go with Plutarch, Livy and Diodorus Siculus, and weave our narrative around their accounts. In short, it is a watershed moment of the Roman history, everything prior is almost mythical, everything after is detailed and historical. Thanks for watching, we appreciate your support. :-)
This is too much, yesterday there was a 10 Minute History episode and an Invicta episode in the space of two hours and today a Kings and Generals episode covering an event discussed in the Invicta episode?!!!
Fletcher Peillet-Long i can t find something wrong with this. Because this videos are usually for special occasions (and we got just 2 of them in this year, if i m not wrong. The battle of Jakku was also something similar, there people even start thinking the channel was at risk for gettin overrun by sci-fi & fantasy. Look now) Besides this we get two point of view on the subject.
About the roman geese: Im inclined to agree with this story. My neighbour has some geese and believe me guys, there is no better watchdog than these geese for all that horrible sounds they make whenerer there is anyone near them. Friend or foe alike are greeted by the sound that could easily wake up everyone around.
Why would you say that? Geese are a natural watchdog for the purpose of alarming the homeowner, etc.. Hardly an "asshole of the nature" whatever that is suppose to mean.
Yet, it ended in the same manner. When Emperor Marcian reversed Theodosius' policy of paying tribute to the Huns, he said to them that he had no more gold, but a lot of iron, and Attila could go get it if he wanted.
Omar سلوم the Gauls were more of a culture of similar people. They never really even got to the point were they could have been united. They were to spread out, to tribalistic, & to chaotic to form a strong kingdom let alone an empire. The Gauls were excellent soldiers, & they were often led by cunning leaders, but they simply lacked the bureaucratic system to properly manage a large spread out empire.
@@michaelweston409 They lacked (if it is really a lack ) of politics, in the sense that they did not have a senate, elections, etc.. at the contrary of the romans; they were divided in hundreds of little nations (among them the Senons ) ruled by kings or princes, which implicates a lower level of political tricks, and Cesar had no problems to use their divisions to manipulate and conquer them, allying with some gauls against others. Later , romans did the same in G-B, who was in the same situation, the difference between gauls and brittons having been almost only that they were separated by the channel. But Cesar was already dead when it happenned ...
Worth mentioning is the loss of Rome's state archive in the fire. Pretty much everything we know about Rome before the sack that isn't supported by archaeology comes from later reports that may have been biased due to politics or misunderstanding.
@@SohanDsouza the map shows Rome taking all of Gaul expect a small part on the North west. There is a kids Comic Book called asterix and Oblex about how all of gaul gave up and surrendered to except for 1 small village. They even made a few movies and tv shows.
I knew only about the episodes with the geese and then the vae victis one, but these intermingled and Camillus` story, man..this is such a great story. Or I am too much of a enthusiast of Ancient Rome!
The funny thing is. We are very strong now. My family has thousands now. I am KING JOSEPH PAUL SENONES lll. 🤨 and all Rome has is a piece of crap lying deceitful Pope system that molest children. 😂😂😂 what Roman warriors?? 🤨🤷♂️🤣🤷♂️✌️✌️🦢👻
Hey, guys at Kings and Generals guess what! This was posted yesterday on the steam community page for Rome 2 Total War "The Battle of Allia and the Sack of Rome 6 AUGUST - CA ELLA Most documentaries on Roman history depict Rome at the peak of its glory during the Late Republic and Early Empire, but Rome was on the brink of annihilation on numerous occasions. Check out this documentary by Kings and Generals to find out more about the Battle of Allia and the Sack of Rome:" Congratulations, you've earned the attentions of the "Creators".
It would be great if a timeline was shown whenever dates were mentioned. As the dates keep piling on, it would help the viewers keep track of events. Ex. You mentioned the barbarian invasions and proceeded to talk about the first sacking of Rome. It would be great to see the time difference on a timeline. Then you can zoom in on the actual time frame (the first sacking) and show dates/events in that era.
YES YES YES! The very content that made me a fan of this channel is returning! ROME! Thank you so much for going back here Kings and Generals, your content as always is incredible!
This videos is really interesting to watch especially with the great commentay,other like any other channels you guys dont just jump into the battle but explaining the back story too,keep up the good work.
I find the idea of Roman hoplites so much more appealing than their later legionaries. To me, it gives the early Roman wars something more romantic. But that might just be because I am in love with the idea of city-states. It has always bothered me how early Roman soldiers were depicted in my Latin textbooks since they usually used illustrations from the Victorian and renaissance era, which don't resemble the historic version at all.
Indeed, wars usually feel more justified when driven by a larger body of citizens, instead of a senatorial elite. I can see the logic behind the republican system and am of course impressed by its success. However, I tend to have a strong bias towards Athens in ancient history. I can't help but notice that the history of the Athenian democracy has something tragic, seeing how often the voters hurt their own system.
Direct democracy didn't really work out too well for the Athenians in Sicily, especially when a single demagogue can whip the crowd into a jingoistic fervor.
Exactly, Athenians tended to make the wrong decisions. The crowd often favoured aggressive politicians (with sharp tongues) and ignored the more tempered advice. At least that is the impression I get from Thucydides and Diodorus. My favourite Cassandra's in Athenian history are Perikles and Phocion.
You guys do more with a mere fraction of a percent of the budget that major studios have and do a MUCH better job. Every new episode gets me excited and makes my day just a bit better! :)
@@KingsandGenerals I think it was an excuse, cause Romans already defeated Senones during the Samnite wars and conquered almost all of their territories in Italy. But who knows
@@keyos1955 they were terrified of Gauls even after the Senones were subdued. Doing strange things like burying pairs of people alive as a human sacrifice when a Gallic army roamed nearby. (This was not something the Romans normally did.) It feels like the Romans also had a severe phobia at the mere thought of their city being sacked. I remember reading that people died of heartattacks when hearing news that Hannibal was outside Rome. In that kind of political system, I'm pretty sure there was a lot of political fearmongering going on...which was probably what kept their hatred of the Gauls alive.
really cool. interesting side note-- there is no contemporary Roman History preceding this event, as the sack destroyed virtually all previously collected public records. so every "historical" event, like the founding of Rome, or the rules of the kings, or the Brutus Revolt, the Horatii, the Fabian War, or even Coriolanus, are all from the oral tradition, family legends, and rumors.
Lovely. The more history channels are covering Rome the better :D Loving the reference to the goose legend, I've actually read that myself during my Latin classes!
well done document, thank Expansionism of Rome (which led to the Roman Empire) started from 2 big defeats it suffered in its early period: by Brenn (400 bc) and Hannibal (200 bc)
At 12:32 I see a tiny yellowish part of Gaul which seems to still hold out. Would that region belong to a village of indomitable Gauls still holding out against the invader? And life is not easy for the romans legionaries who fortify camps of Totorum, Aquarium, Laudanum and Compendium.
Love it! My knowledge of ancient history is pretty good overall but admittedly, this chapter of the early republic was always rather murky. Not so much now!
I've been waiting for the Total War hype vid and this did not disappoint. Great stuff! Also, that might be the first time I've heard a history channel pronounce Classical Latin "V" properly haha good job.
It is amazing to watch this video and to then think of William Shakespeare's brilliant play Commodus. Shakespeare's play seemed to capture the complexity of Commodus, a man who was a great military strategist and tactician, could not fathom the importance that the people's will had in politics. And this video also seems to capture that dichotomy while presenting the reality of Rome's inner political turmoil.
Thanks! Indeed, when you read the ancient sources, it becomes clear that there was a discontent between the aristocrats and the commoners. It is a very common theme, both in the Roman and the Greek politics.
Yes, in its early stages, Rome faced Two big threatens: the gaul Brenn (387 bc) & the cartago Annibal (211 bc) Having survived to these deadly dangers pushed Rome to adopt an aggressive tactic for its defense: to Conquer!
Excellent summary ... appreciate the explanation of the civil war that led to the Consular Tribunes. The perennial struggle between the Political Elites and the Plebeians. Please elaborate how this shaped Roman developments
I readed about this battel abd the most interesting facts for me are this: The celts are really good smiths and produce good and strong weapons. They are a culture of warriors. The romans aren't professional fighters at this time. Celts and rome as a city state are interesting themes for me :-) thanks for the work
Don’t comment on stuff much, love the total war series and history so when I’m not conquering I’m watching these to flex on my history bros. Keep it up!
12:28 now it makes sense why beating the Gauls mattered to the Romans so much, it was symbolic, Caesar proved how strong Rome was, and in turn it made Caesar seem like the genius that the citizens probably sought during the corrupt late republic_11:38 dictator saved the city......I bet this video will get demonetized_11:28 badass_11:22 dang!_11::10 :OO_10:15 :OOOO_9:49 so cool!_8:36 hmm rome burned wow_8:23 ouch_4:23 never-mind_4:08 wow I feel bad for this dictator :(_3:31 damn dictatorship is awesome_2:22 nice :O
"They had no training because they weren't professional, like they became after they conquered all that land." It's written in ancient texts that Roman men trained with weapons from a young age. Not hard to find
Marcus Furius Camillus, thats one of the coolest names Ive ever heard.
Agreed, sounds badass
Nah some many other cooler Roman names
Vinnie P. You mean Brutus the Younger
What about Publius Ventilius Bassus beat the Parthians on multiple occasions Bad ass General
Tiberius Maximus sends compliments, he even made a cameo in Trajan's Column
Early Rome - We defend Rome with Iron not gold. 800 years later - Gold anyone???
Pay the iron price!
Rome wasn't the capital by then, and the Visigoths just took the gold without negotiation. We know that they didn't take all the gold, as both the Vandals and (ironically enough), the Eastern Roman Empire took more. The gold which was on the Pantheon's roof was taken by an Eastern Roman Emperor, btw.
Decadence begins when the gold spent on displaying wealth exceeds that spent on defending it. The rampant corruption meant that provinces were highly localized administrations and not extensions of the Senate in transit ie the Imperator aka the Caesar's will. Flavius Aetius, Stilicho, Marjorian- all three of them were figures who could have saved Rome. But there were all victims of the Power Sharing Paradox as presented by Isaac Asimov. Basically whenever you have any combination of a general and an Emperor, typically one of them will betray the other. Typically. Stilicho and Aetius were killed by their Emperors, Marjorian was betrayed by his co-ruler. Rome could have survived if the will to make the Empire survive prevailed among its citizenry and its elites as much as it did among its rulers. Like I said... decadence- when sons have grown fat on their father's toils without understanding the whys or wherefores. The patricians owned vast tracts of land thry did not work appropriately and had to rely on slaves to do the work. While honest citizens were denied good farmland.
@@anirbanbhattacharya9185 yeah, I've always had the notion that a strong sense of nationalism instilled and indoctrinated into the roman people throughout its' classes could have saved them, as soldiers would be less likely to flee and fight more fiercely, and the rulers and generals would have been working more towards the benefit of the empire than their own.
Afro Man
True but by the law of unintended consequences it did result in a rather bad affair as when Rome was attacked after being lazy and paying off a invader for decades, they’ve alienated former allies by saying they weren’t considered Roman based on race
That may also be at fault to the Roman education system- See James Madison, Cicero’s criticism of the education system and the Greek slave education system compared to today’s it’s nearly the same and the function is the same just with different wording
However that is Ethnicity passing off as nationality and neglect of the government for doing the opposite of what Rome did before which was alienate and isolate themselves
It should be noted that 4-5 centuries later when Ceasar invaded Gaul, he was surprised to find out that the druids there knew the exact date when Rome was sacked by Brennus. The Gauls were not as barbaric and as divided as the Romans thought they were and they actually had a common history although it was probably orally passed down rather than being written.
heard that as well, was quite surprising for me tbh, since i thought that the gauls were "barbaric"
@@michaelagainstme technically to rome, everyone not rome = barbaric
@@KuaChan fair enough
That’s super cool, didnt know that
Gauls were still pround, that they were able to sack Rome 4 centruis earlier, so Caesar decided to conquer the whole of Gaul for Roman empire and make them slaves to pay taxes for the Roman empire.
If you want to watch the campaign gameplay for the Rise of the Republic, check out the video from our friend Lionheart, he is one of the best in the let's play business: th-cam.com/video/wiMgQAe4Sp8/w-d-xo.html
There are multiple depictions of this conflict, and modern historians often disagree with the primary sources. Yet, we decided to go with Plutarch, Livy and Diodorus Siculus, and weave our narrative around their accounts. In short, it is a watershed moment of the Roman history, everything prior is almost mythical, everything after is detailed and historical. Thanks for watching, we appreciate your support. :-)
This is too much, yesterday there was a 10 Minute History episode and an Invicta episode in the space of two hours and today a Kings and Generals episode covering an event discussed in the Invicta episode?!!!
Good ol' boy Plutarch always delivers.
Fletcher Peillet-Long
i can t find something wrong with this. Because this videos are usually for special occasions (and we got just 2 of them in this year, if i m not wrong. The battle of Jakku was also something similar, there people even start thinking the channel was at risk for gettin overrun by sci-fi & fantasy. Look now)
Besides this we get two point of view on the subject.
Please do a video on 3rd Battle of Panipat
Kings and Generals How Napoleonc wars series progresses? I mean would it be soon....or soon-ish, as you explained to me last time? 😁
Now we have everything we need to roleplay our new Rome 2 campaign. Thanks, Kings and Generals!
Thanks for watching, my friend! I got your letter, going to answer ASAP!
+Kings and Generals Thanks. I realised that I didn't say anything about subjects I specialize after I already sent it. Classic me.
with TW these days, Roleplaying is about all you can do after the first playthrough. Such a shame, really.
+Brian Williams Yeah, I know what you mean.
@benrodir2 sorry I'm not understanding what you mean. I love rome tw2 & atila
I think the Alarm bell for this channel should be changed into a Goose
Love that. :-)
Goose??? Is the singular form????
Banish grammar nazi!
thanks I didn't see that I wrote Geese. :)
Leo a goose saved your life yes?
You guys are always good about fueling my hype for Total War.
Can you, please, tweet that at Total War? :-)
The took notice! The video is pinned on the TW: Rome II Steam Forums.
Hopefully CA always manages to bring this hype down after showing some gameplays.
I love these videos, definitely gonna conquer some shit after work lol
all of you probably most definitely suck at total war anyways. The amount of actual good players I met were very small
I love that "iron protects the city not gold " line. Pure bad assery.
About the roman geese: Im inclined to agree with this story. My neighbour has some geese and believe me guys, there is no better watchdog than these geese for all that horrible sounds they make whenerer there is anyone near them. Friend or foe alike are greeted by the sound that could easily wake up everyone around.
True. They are the assholes of the nature. :-)
Why would you say that? Geese are a natural watchdog for the purpose of alarming the homeowner, etc.. Hardly an "asshole of the nature" whatever that is suppose to mean.
Calm your tits down, Joseph. It was just a joke.
@@NOSTI2ADAMUS Joseph is goose
@@GoombaGunk haha now I understand why he's so upset xD
"We protect Rome with iron, not gold"
Good one liner, eh?
Kings and Generals for sure will use it if i write a book
"Non auro, sed ferro, recuperanda est patria" ("not by gold but by iron the fatherland has to be regained")
Good thing Rome isn't in the Eastern Roman Empire or all those tributes to Attila would have been awkward!
Yet, it ended in the same manner. When Emperor Marcian reversed Theodosius' policy of paying tribute to the Huns, he said to them that he had no more gold, but a lot of iron, and Attila could go get it if he wanted.
Wow, the Romans were too proud to know the truth of their conquest: "Same reason as you" The Gallic king was speaking the truth lol
And when put his sword on the scale. The guy had good one liners.
@@micksmith5123 yeah a true european hero. Had he not died and left the city , europe would still be free today and not in the bonds of roman banks
REAAAAAL
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Cry about it 😂
I can't imagine any other voice working for a series like this. When I think of a battle documentary, yours is the first thing I think of.
Every Roman was like "never again!!!" .
So let's go conquer the world !!!!!
And they were right, for 8 centuries. :-)
Brennus: *sacks Rome*
Romans: "NEVER AGAIN!"
Alaric: *sacks Rome*
Romans: "Never mind...."
Kings and Generals and conquer the world for good measure
Ogier the Dane you forgot attila but good one😂
Attila didn't sack Rome dude
11:33 The green, white and red sort of forming the Italian flag in the background was a nice touch. Didn't notice it until now.
"I hate the gauls. My father hated them too."
:-)
I’m British. We hated everyone. Constantly invading us!
Even before they put out his eyes
@@Tunda2 Did you think i would be out here on the frontier without good reason?
Favorite childhood game!
Julius Caesar: " If the gauls were united, they would conquer the world "
More so the Celts
@@OmarSlloum No, Caesar said the Gauls
Omar سلوم the Gauls were more of a culture of similar people. They never really even got to the point were they could have been united. They were to spread out, to tribalistic, & to chaotic to form a strong kingdom let alone an empire. The Gauls were excellent soldiers, & they were often led by cunning leaders, but they simply lacked the bureaucratic system to properly manage a large spread out empire.
@@michaelweston409 They lacked (if it is really a lack ) of politics, in the sense that they did not have a senate, elections, etc.. at the contrary of the romans; they were divided in hundreds of little nations (among them the Senons ) ruled by kings or princes, which implicates a lower level of political tricks, and Cesar had no problems to use their divisions to manipulate and conquer them, allying with some gauls against others. Later , romans did the same in G-B, who was in the same situation, the difference between gauls and brittons having been almost only that they were separated by the channel. But Cesar was already dead when it happenned ...
Only if they all had access to magic potion.
The fact some of the senators stayed seated in the forum is so awesome. Romans were built different
"Peace was never an option."
~Goose
Worth mentioning is the loss of Rome's state archive in the fire. Pretty much everything we know about Rome before the sack that isn't supported by archaeology comes from later reports that may have been biased due to politics or misunderstanding.
i like that asterix reference 12:32
@@SohanDsouza the map shows Rome taking all of Gaul expect a small part on the North west. There is a kids Comic Book called asterix and Oblex about how all of gaul gave up and surrendered to except for 1 small village. They even made a few movies and tv shows.
I knew only about the episodes with the geese and then the vae victis one, but these intermingled and Camillus` story, man..this is such a great story. Or I am too much of a enthusiast of Ancient Rome!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Anyone else think that the way Brennus is designed from Rome 2’s Rise of the Republic DLC makes it seem like Hulk Hogan is invading Italy
Hulk Hogan is always invading something. :-)
Let me tell ya something Senoniacs! What's Rome gonna do, when an army of Gallic Celts run wild on you brotha!
skipperwarp9 what do you mean about Brennus? I’m descended. !!!
The funny thing is. We are very strong now. My family has thousands now. I am
KING JOSEPH PAUL SENONES lll. 🤨 and all Rome has is a piece of crap lying deceitful Pope system that molest children. 😂😂😂 what Roman warriors?? 🤨🤷♂️🤣🤷♂️✌️✌️🦢👻
@@jsenones6480 are you okey?
*Starts watching*
*Hears the topic*
*Pause*
*Like*
*Favourites*
*Resume watching*
:-)
Hey, guys at Kings and Generals guess what! This was posted yesterday on the steam community page for Rome 2 Total War
"The Battle of Allia and the Sack of Rome
6 AUGUST - CA ELLA
Most documentaries on Roman history depict Rome at the peak of its glory during the Late Republic and Early Empire, but Rome was on the brink of annihilation on numerous occasions.
Check out this documentary by Kings and Generals to find out more about the Battle of Allia and the Sack of Rome:"
Congratulations, you've earned the attentions of the "Creators".
Yeah, that was one of the toughest battles I ever witnessed. :-)
To see something put together this well and to be able to see it for free? What a time to be alive.
Yep, TH-cam is great :-)
Enjoyment delivered in video form. aren't we blessed to have this channel in our lives
Abdullah Muhammed we are
But tomorrow is monday
Thank you!
Early history of Rome is really fascinating 👏👏👏
Indeed! Quite a few interesting battles there.
Kings and Generals And Roman Phalanx Hoplite kind of thing! 😃
We don't know how "phalangy" it was, but they were the hoplites, indeed. :-)
Kings and Generals But, it's still a thing to note 😊
One of the most detailed documentary channel out their....Keep up the good work of spreading knowledge....
That person who managed to get the letter to Rome deserves to have his story told
Absolutely the coolest channel ever. Since I’ve discovered it I have not been able to stop watching
If the romans had obi wan kenobi as their leader they could use the high ground to its full potential and win the battle
They had something similar. :-)
Man if Obi Wan Kenobi was their leader than he wouldve got shot by a javelin
If Obi-Wan was there, he'd solo the entire goddamn army.
- we attack Rome!!
- you don't wanna attack Rome.
- we don't wanna attack Rome.
The End
If obi wan commanded the Romans,he would tell the Gauls:"Don't try it."
What is dead may never die but rises again harder and stronger
That's what I said to my wife on bed. :P
Say that to the dickeless greyjoy
well Rome is quite dead and not coming back, and its legacy is about to be dead and never come back too
@@EmperorDionx legacy? You mean the city they founded? The language some countries speak? The toilers, sewers? Cement? And many more Roman legacy?
@@EmperorDionx How is it legacy dying? there are more than 1000 millions of latin lenguage speakers and 1200 millions of catholics in the world
It would be great if a timeline was shown whenever dates were mentioned. As the dates keep piling on, it would help the viewers keep track of events.
Ex. You mentioned the barbarian invasions and proceeded to talk about the first sacking of Rome. It would be great to see the time difference on a timeline. Then you can zoom in on the actual time frame (the first sacking) and show dates/events in that era.
To pile on more, this would have been especially helpful for the doidachi videos.
Thank you for the feedback. We usually do that. Unfortunately, it was impossible with this one - the dates are debated.
@@KingsandGenerals what if you highlight a section of time and say "sometime between x and x". That might be just as helpful.
I hear you! Thanks!
YES YES YES! The very content that made me a fan of this channel is returning! ROME! Thank you so much for going back here Kings and Generals, your content as always is incredible!
We will have a full series with multiple seasons on Rome.
4:20 I like that little foreshadowing of Brennus. Nice touch. :)
This videos is really interesting to watch especially with the great commentay,other like any other channels you guys dont just jump into the battle but explaining the back story too,keep up the good work.
We are glad, you are enjoying our content!
I find the idea of Roman hoplites so much more appealing than their later legionaries. To me, it gives the early Roman wars something more romantic. But that might just be because I am in love with the idea of city-states. It has always bothered me how early Roman soldiers were depicted in my Latin textbooks since they usually used illustrations from the Victorian and renaissance era, which don't resemble the historic version at all.
Yeah, I can see it. There is something inherently good about the direct democracy. Obviously, it was flawed, but still.
Indeed, wars usually feel more justified when driven by a larger body of citizens, instead of a senatorial elite. I can see the logic behind the republican system and am of course impressed by its success. However, I tend to have a strong bias towards Athens in ancient history. I can't help but notice that the history of the Athenian democracy has something tragic, seeing how often the voters hurt their own system.
Republican Rome wasn't exactly a direct democracy though.
Direct democracy didn't really work out too well for the Athenians in Sicily, especially when a single demagogue can whip the crowd into a jingoistic fervor.
Exactly, Athenians tended to make the wrong decisions. The crowd often favoured aggressive politicians (with sharp tongues) and ignored the more tempered advice. At least that is the impression I get from Thucydides and Diodorus. My favourite Cassandra's in Athenian history are Perikles and Phocion.
I definitely wasn’t expecting a video about Ali-a on this channel
i see what you did there
Preston Garvey nice one
*Ali-A theme intensifies*
You guys do more with a mere fraction of a percent of the budget that major studios have and do a MUCH better job. Every new episode gets me excited and makes my day just a bit better! :)
Really happy to hear that. Thanks, Chris! :-)
Great work guys. One of the reason Rome was butthurt against Gauls, maybe?
Yeah, Caesar talks about it in his account of the Gallic War.
Yes I think the Romans never really got over the sack of the city, it was always in the back of their minds as they dealt with the Gauls.
@@desmondd1984 Republic era Romans never really got over ANY slight from anyone :) patrician senate was like perpetual, vindicative emperor.
@@KingsandGenerals I think it was an excuse, cause Romans already defeated Senones during the Samnite wars and conquered almost all of their territories in Italy. But who knows
@@keyos1955 they were terrified of Gauls even after the Senones were subdued.
Doing strange things like burying pairs of people alive as a human sacrifice when a Gallic army roamed nearby. (This was not something the Romans normally did.)
It feels like the Romans also had a severe phobia at the mere thought of their city being sacked. I remember reading that people died of heartattacks when hearing news that Hannibal was outside Rome.
In that kind of political system, I'm pretty sure there was a lot of political fearmongering going on...which was probably what kept their hatred of the Gauls alive.
Rise of the Republic hype anyone ;)?
Malay Archer Fuck Yea
No.
Meh
Well, I mean, is Rome, so...
Yeah boy
Love videos on the early history of Rome, often not covered so i really loved this. Keep up the good work!
We will, thank you!
Yes Roman wars, great video as always
Thank you!
I also loved the touch of the modern Italian flag at 11:36 :-)
Love to leave the easter eggs, and love it even more when they are noticed. :-)
really cool. interesting side note-- there is no contemporary Roman History preceding this event, as the sack destroyed virtually all previously collected public records. so every "historical" event, like the founding of Rome, or the rules of the kings, or the Brutus Revolt, the Horatii, the Fabian War, or even Coriolanus, are all from the oral tradition, family legends, and rumors.
I have been waiting forever for an early roman campaign for Rome 2. Finally!
It is a good campaign. I played for 15 hours or so.
Rise of Rome DLC, I like how you strategically make these vids.
Thanks!
Love this video. More videos should be done on the battles of the early Roman Republic. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
11:16 One of the most badass moments in history
Yeah, basically an action movie. :-)
Reminds me of my playthrough on Total War Rome 2. Love playing that game and hearing history in the background.
Lovely. The more history channels are covering Rome the better :D Loving the reference to the goose legend, I've actually read that myself during my Latin classes!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Easily my favorite channel on the Tube👍🏼
Kind of interesting to see the beginnings of Rome as I always knew Rome as a Mediterranean Superpower.
Yeah, there were at least a few centuries of struggle before they became a superpower.
well done document, thank
Expansionism of Rome (which led to the Roman Empire)
started from 2 big defeats it suffered in its early period:
by Brenn (400 bc) and Hannibal (200 bc)
One of my favourite channel!
Why not the most favourite? We are trying here. :-)
Good video. I enjoyed watching it. Its interesting to see the challenges faced in the early days of Rome.
Thank you! Indeed, the first few centuries were rocky, to say the least. :-)
A day with a vid from KaG = A GOOD DAY
Thank you!
Kings and Generals ❤
Azrael Bloodfallen K&G is the right form of writing "Kings and Generals" abruptly .
At 12:32 I see a tiny yellowish part of Gaul which seems to still hold out. Would that region belong to a village of indomitable Gauls still holding out against the invader? And life is not easy for the romans legionaries who fortify camps of Totorum, Aquarium, Laudanum and Compendium.
I know nothing about it. :-)
Love it! My knowledge of ancient history is pretty good overall but admittedly, this chapter of the early republic was always rather murky. Not so much now!
Thanks! Yeah, most of us know about the Later Republican wars. :-)
So good to see some history of the early republic for once
Yeah, we might do more. :-)
I've been waiting for the Total War hype vid and this did not disappoint. Great stuff! Also, that might be the first time I've heard a history channel pronounce Classical Latin "V" properly haha good job.
Happy to hear that. :-) Devin is really good!
Cool video! Make sure to do more documentaries on the cities of Alexandria, Constantinople, Jerusalem, and Antioch during medieval ages!
Thanks! We will!
Gauls: ITS OVER ROMANS! We have the high ground!
Romans: YOU UNDERESTIMATE OUR POWER!
A couple of centuries later: it's only a joke Caesar pls don't take it personal
You don’t know how much I love your videos please make more
We will. :-) Sharing will help!
Thank you! I woke up today with a serious craving of Kings and Generals.
So, we are on time. :-)
:-)
Wow much more informative than in our history class And I actually learned something about early Roman history, good job! Keep the work up.
We will, thank you!
It is amazing to watch this video and to then think of William Shakespeare's brilliant play Commodus. Shakespeare's play seemed to capture the complexity of Commodus, a man who was a great military strategist and tactician, could not fathom the importance that the people's will had in politics. And this video also seems to capture that dichotomy while presenting the reality of Rome's inner political turmoil.
I meant Camillus.
Thanks! Indeed, when you read the ancient sources, it becomes clear that there was a discontent between the aristocrats and the commoners. It is a very common theme, both in the Roman and the Greek politics.
you guys are amazing, loving all the new videos
Thank you very much! :-)
gods i hate Gauls. My grandfather hated them too, even before they plucked out his eyes.
Never gets old. :-)
Even Asterix and Obelix too?
Gauls are Gauls lol
ArtWOLF,Cela tombe bien les gaulois t'emmerdent aussi.
Vive la Gaule !!!!!!
Finally someone treats this part of Rome's history - jolly good. Will you do a piece on Coriolanus?
Liked before I've even watched it. Come to expect great content!
Hope, you weren't disappointed. :-)
I wasn't, thanks!
11:03 He sounds so fucking cool when he says;
*_“Vae Victis”_*
Yes, in its early stages, Rome faced Two big threatens:
the gaul Brenn (387 bc) & the cartago Annibal (211 bc)
Having survived to these deadly dangers pushed Rome
to adopt an aggressive tactic for its defense: to Conquer!
Glad you pointed out the hoplite type warfare early romans did. I hope Total War replicates that in their new DLC!
They do. :-)
I literally learned about this engagement today , just few hours before you guys uploaded this video lmao :-)
Hopefully, we expanded on it. :-)
Kings and Generals but of course , you guys are amazing !!! :-)
Also, counting down to the next modern warfare video, which you do once a month! A nice treat that is, as with all the rest of these videos!
Thank you! We are going to be a few weeks late with that - decided to move to 3d completely. Looks great, but takes that much longer. :-)
Oooooo nice. I bet it'll be one of the greatest videos you made then, a fitting reward for all your good work!.
Do the Maruis reforms. That's when rome's became a killing machine
Will consider!
It should have been noted that apart from the sack of Rome itself everything else about this story is semi-legendary.
Romans: "Its over gauls i have the high ground!"
Gauls: "you underestimate my power!"
Romans: "You underestimate my Geese"
great video kings and generals can't wait to see more of the roman videos.
More planned!
Invicta uploads a video of roman conquest of italy same day, good video!
nice vid guys,really anticipated this
Thanks, yep, it was predictable. :-)
Nice documentary. U should totally make a series on the gallic wars of 59-52 bce
Thanks, will consider!
Is this channel the best thing ever to come out of youtube?
Hopefully :-)
The "Ghouls" are very resilient!
Excellent summary ... appreciate the explanation of the civil war that led to the Consular Tribunes.
The perennial struggle between the Political Elites and the Plebeians.
Please elaborate how this shaped Roman developments
Thank you! Planning to!
I readed about this battel abd the most interesting facts for me are this:
The celts are really good smiths and produce good and strong weapons. They are a culture of warriors.
The romans aren't professional fighters at this time.
Celts and rome as a city state are interesting themes for me :-) thanks for the work
Thanks for watching! Indeed, the Gauls, seemingly, were better in metallurgy at that point in time.
Kings and Generals Yes :D
What's the name of the song at 12:52?
06:36 Obi-Wan would be proud.
Don’t comment on stuff much, love the total war series and history so when I’m not conquering I’m watching these to flex on my history bros. Keep it up!
We are always happy to read your comments. :-)
Thanks for posting...
Thanks for watching!
Invicta just uploaded a video on early Rome and boom you guys give us a battle depiction the next day
12:28 now it makes sense why beating the Gauls mattered to the Romans so much, it was symbolic, Caesar proved how strong Rome was, and in turn it made Caesar seem like the genius that the citizens probably sought during the corrupt late republic_11:38 dictator saved the city......I bet this video will get demonetized_11:28 badass_11:22 dang!_11::10 :OO_10:15 :OOOO_9:49 so cool!_8:36 hmm rome burned wow_8:23 ouch_4:23 never-mind_4:08 wow I feel bad for this dictator :(_3:31 damn dictatorship is awesome_2:22 nice :O
At The time the charge of dictator was similar to present day presidente.
I see King and General videos and my depression is cured every time I checked out new video lol, please do more videos on Ummayyads and Abbasids.
Dude, do not be depressed, life is good.
"They had no training because they weren't professional, like they became after they conquered all that land."
It's written in ancient texts that Roman men trained with weapons from a young age. Not hard to find
Given that the Roman army wasn't professional until the empire, they were definitely trained to do more than use a sword
Excellent video, thank you so much!
Thank you for watching!
Amazing video
Thank you!
Thats great again, more and more Rome please
More on the way!
Man now i want some Pasta !
I always want pasta!
Dude, what a channel, nice video! in 13min you could teach more about Rome than many teachers in a whole week xDDDDDDDDDD
Really happy to hear that!