Music Marketing Expert Exposes: Tunecore Vs. Distrokid
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I signed up with Symphonic. They have good service and fast uploads. But I'm not sure it matters which distributor a musician uses because TH-cam and Spotify and other streaming services are not counting my streams. I posted some songs via TH-cam on reddit groups where musicians can promote their music. Reddit showed 1.3k views while TH-cam showed 3 views. There is a scam going on. How are we supposed to know if streaming services are legitimately counting our streams? Who is monitoring this?
I've been with Tunecore for a long time and albums and singles pay for themselves. If your album or single does not sell more than what you pay to distribute, then there is something that you are doing wrong. What I recommend is producing yourself, writing and singing. When you do all of that, you collect 100 percent and then you see the money. But if there are 40 people in your song, you will never see anything. Learn to do more for yourself, be a real independent. Peace and love!
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How often is payout? Is it weekly?
I'm also with tunecore🙃🙃🙃
Hey I loved this comment, choosing the right distribution service is something I’ve been thinking about a lot. I’m doing some research on how musicians weigh the pros and cons of services tailored to help them. I’d love to buy you some lunch over a phone call to talk more about this!
I don’t always agree with Dorian but he’s really top 3 on YT in my opinion
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Also I use distrokid... Not impressed so far
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Right
I use CD Baby and Songcast...I don’t want to have pay every year to keep my music up I’d rather pay one time fee and have my music out there forever
#TeamDistroKid for over 3 years now. Love the different services they provide for promoting your music and how professional they are with helping aids as an independent musician.
Here’s some value for y’all. With distrokid, if you mark your song with a sample you don’t have cleared as a “cover song”, you won’t get any copyright strikes or threatening emails. That’s as of today, 09/06/21, their policy may change.
Word???
What about freestyles etc
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Does thus work even if you wrote original lyrics over a beat that contains a very recognizable mainstream sample?
I got a Michael Jackson sample you think this will work
We’ve always used Tunecore here at Cultural Deities, but I think I’m going to move us to DistroKid because we can upload video with them soon. And Tunecore just doesn’t give you freedom when it comes to creative direction of how cover art looks, it doesn’t let you change your artists’ stage names & it doesn’t let you stylize their name or song titles to begin with.
Do they pay weekly payment
Disto is going to change the game when you can do videos
And they scam u well and make u pay unnecessary 30% as tax
@@isaiahmlaki6993 monthly
@@RaghuRoxx when?
I released my first ep about two years ago on DistroKid it took about 4 to 6 hours to see it in stores
That’s literally interesting because it took days for me .
Can u hear my music since u pretty expirences now
My latest release dropped 2 days after I uploaded it
@@destinixshakur are you still with distrokid
@@darktroy_rsa6053 yeah I am. Why do you ask? I believe I’m switching soon . Not sure if I will keep my stream numbers but oh well
1. Own your masters
2. Own 100% Publishing
3. Own &/ Control the Distribution system (Physical and Digital)
4. Touring
How to do that?
nice
I definitely need that copyright claim vs. strike video
A strike means the video could get taken down potentially. A claim means you will not get the money from the video, but the entity whose content you used will.
I tried, youtube said I had to make a takedown claim before I could claim copyright. but they get hits for my stuff and I don't. so I didnt' want to take it down, I just want the money. YT told me tough luck or submit again and see if it goes through.
I use Distrokid we spoke with the owner earlier this year about how to improve the site and he did it in real time, he upgraded the function where you can upload your own isrc.I also reminded him that Afro beat was not a genre on his site or Songtradr and they now are.
As did i! They actually take advice from people
Where’d you meet ?
@@theindustrymanagementteam literally hit up their twitter inbox and they kindly responded
@@philgoodx7 just the official account? crazy do you think its because you are a bigger artist?
@@danielbastron7462 Oh im not a big artist at all! But yes I asked them on twitter.
I started with tunecore but there fees for everything was to much so I switched to distrokid and I have loved it ever since
How hard is it to switch all your music over?
@@jeremiah6319 it's not that hard if you have only used 1 distributor. Because when you sign up for the new one they will ask you who else have you released with. Just input the info and they will handle it from there.
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Does distrokid take a percentage of your master? How do they charge and how much
I'm with Empire since 2010. In my opinion they've gotten really big and now it's alot more difficult to speak with a rep. In regards to release dates and all platforms they are on point.
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I thought Empire was a label?
@@Floyd_Steel they started out as a distributor but evolved into a label. It's actually two different sectors of their company.
I started with CD baby, they are the most comprehensive, one time fee per release of a single or album, and can do as much or little as you like. They are probably the best for a beginner who wants to cover everything but may not have all the knowledge yet. One caveat is their publishing, as it is difficult to do through the of you want to try to place your music with sync licensing. I am switching to Distro kid for some new songs, as I have a lot of songs stuck in “need more work “ file I want to release and the one price for unlimited is appealing. Definitely watch Dorians other vids on the subject and make yourself aware of the differences . Most of them are similar once you add in all the extras, but if you have specific needs some are better than others . Thanks Dorian for all the knowledge, and to the musicians, keep making music and telling your story!
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Distrokid can get releases onto Apple in 1-2 hours, usually within 12-24 hours. I've done it multiple times. Every other streaming service they take longer, usually 2 days or more.
What I wanna know is how the major labels distribute their artists' music digitally? Do they have their own interfaces similar to a TuneCore or Distrokid that we as independents and artists just haven't seen before? Or are they just ripping off artists and using those same distribution sites that we all use? Or do they individually go to each streaming platform and make sure the music is distributed? (I'm guessing that final option would make sense since they have the people and resources to do that.)
Best question I've seen!!! Why is no one answering this one???
It's not an interface, they deliver directly to the stores through their distribution departments
I leave my comment under this one so I can review the answers. This is a great question, btw
some of them use distributors like onerpm, others directly distribute to the DSPs
@@nobodyspecial1447 I'd like to see more answers leaving a comment to see what happens. I've always wanted to know
Tune core is definitely a no-go. They charge you for every upload and they don’t pay your full royalties but distrokid pays you properly and every upload is free. All you have to do is pay a small yearly fee. They also distribute your music very quickly
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We've been using CD Baby since 2002. Even though they're pricier upfront than other distributors, we like knowing that our submissions are forever rather than having to pay extra later.
Exactly.
CD Baby always did me solid
Cd Baby Forever
It’s there forever because they take 9%💀
Yeah that yearly fee of DK or else they pull your stuff down is so trash
Switched and moved my whole catalog from Tunecore to Distrokid. So far so good. Shout out to mi gente in EAST L.A, EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER a.k.a EOTR NETWORK for this golden suggestion. 💖💥
Why the change
@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 Saved a whole bunch of money to have more uploads, still the “add-ons” fee are there but I personally find Distrokid very reliable, up till now at least.
I'm with Distrokid for now been with them since 2018 been good this far
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This is a very detailed and concise video! Might have to watch this a few times still. This man knows his stuff! Great content as always Dorian
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Caught your video when i opened up youtube and I'm glad I did. Droppin knowledge, wisdom and understanding on how these distributors move. I had latched on to Tunecore, about to drop my first album soon and the things you dropped is gonna stay in my head going forward, just to make sure i stay on point. maybe i should have went to distrokid lol either way, I just subbed and looking forward to more of these types of videos, Salute !
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Both.
- I got tunecore first because of a Russ interview. But it was going to be too expensive to pay the fee for each song every year,
- I got Distro kid to upload all of my back catalogue
- now Tunecore has unlimited uploads for $50 a year
I’ve used both Tunecore & Distrokid. Personal opinion. I make good money from youtube, also enjoy getting paid weekly and not worrying about all the extra charges or hidden fees to take full advantage of mechanical royalties. Tunecore is still the best overall. (If you can afford it) great insight though man! Respect
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I use tunecore as a Nigerian living in the UK , Tunecore distribute music to both Africa and china via boom play hence why i like em .
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I used distrokid
my bank right
now it’s $4.73
I’ll see u at the top brudda 🤙🏾keep grinding
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TuneCore and CDBaby since 2011. Best decision ever. My streams cover my annual fee each yr :-)
Why use 2?
@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 they both have pros and cons, TuneCore my go to. CD Baby is for my legacy mixtapes i made very early in my career
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Thanks dorian... the way this video played out... not only was the content informative but the comments as well
Hey my name is Dorion too and I'm a big fan of your content. I'm currently using untied master but I'm considering switching for a few reasons.
Me 2, United Masters suck. Especially having to get to $50 before they loose your funds. Heard they use your music w/out your knowing about it also and won’t pay you.
Distrokid is what I use. And at this point, they’ve released any song I want within 24hrs to all platforms.
I been with tunecore since 2010,I got my bags at the door ready to go...
I think so,but they have been holding a album unreleased for almost two years, I paid for it twice and they won't return my emails..
@@wolfharrismusic you cant just release it through a distrokid or somewhere else?
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I’m using distrokid I haven’t had any issues so far
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I'm new to distrokid, only because I just need distribution but tunecore isn't bad it's just rates for uploading your albums can get crazy. Btw if you register for distrokid but don't pay they'll email you a 30% discount after a day or so.
Great Video ! Hot Topic... I've tried both Tunecore & Distrokid. I love them both. I roll with Distrokid. Despite all of there upsale fees for added services. Ultimately what it boils down to for me is "1 Key FACTOR. " That being the fact that Distrokid is the one that offer the "Teams" feature which allows for all the composers & writers of a song to get paid from & by Distrokid directly. They take care of that process which saves time and headache. All the artist releasing the song has to do is add the producer or feature artist to the teams and Distrokid takes care of the rest. If Tunecore offered that I would switch back to them.
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I use distrokid and got like $5 I made so far its mad hard to market everything and focus on music aswell
Facts
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@@DorianGroup82 ja right, it seems this is your catch
I signed up for Tunecore. They took my money and removed my single. They told me not to upload anything else. Their only responses to me were, “Tunecore reserves the right to remove any content. Due to our policies we do not disclose the reason for removal.” There was no way to cancel. No way to request a refund. The phone number went to a recording that tells you to go to the website that won’t give you any info. It then hangs up on you. I had to dispute the charge for their fee with my bank. I reported them to the BBB. They have a lot of the same reports against them. There are also a lot of videos on TH-cam of people that were ripped off the same way.
Don’t trust them. They are a scam.
I signed up for Distrokid. So far they have done exactly what they say they will do. They released my single fast and all platforms are streaming it.
That's good to know. Are you still using distrokid?
@@DorianGroup82 yes as a band we signed up for their services less than a year ago. We released one single and have an album in the mixing stage. Shooting for May release.
I use tune core. Paying to put a song on up front could turn people off, unlike distro kid where you only have to pay once a year. But I think tune core is better than distro kid in some professional aspects. They seem to thoroughly collect royalties. The rewards program is pretty good also.
I use distrokid and I’ve had my music put up same day and have been showed a lot of love by them. They pretty solid as far as i can tell
I've been on State 51 for years and I've only made a few dollars. But what killed me is how they got my youtube channel closed down, and also since I license my music, my clients were being hit with cease and desist, and my channel shut down due to repeated copyright violations... OF MY OWN MUSIC!!! What they were doing was uploading my music with them as the author. Therefore I was being cheated by my distributor who was taking credit for my music and probably getting revenue from ad-generated content. My content. To make matters worse, they never replied to repeated attempts to fix this issue. BTW, State 51 is in London. I'm trying to change to either distrokid or whomever.
Distro put my songs up fairly quick 24hrs was the quickest time I’ve encountered.
👏🏽 ✌🏼
Ditto music: It has been good thus far. I have had one issue with Artwork but all I had to do was take the writing from the front cover. I have dropped my music and had to repost it after a mistake.
United Masters: Payouts suck. I think that they collect as a publisher as well on the back end.
Collecting Royalties:
BMI
Ditto Muisc
Song Trust
Sound Exchange
Keep pushing 💪🏼
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Great video, but you still need on admin for your over seas royalty for example songtrust are tunecore addmin to collect. If you have only BMI or Ascap you are lossing royality.
i’ve used distro and cd baby. cd baby is nice because you get the payment out the way from the start and it feels more transparent than distrokid. on the other hand, i think distro is much easier to use and nice if you don’t want to spend a lot right away, those yearly fees add up tho, especially the leave a legacy one where you have to pay to make sure your song isn’t deleted. distro seems a little too relaxed, it just doesn’t give me the right vibe.
Please make a video talking about the Patient of beats when it comes to the music 🙏🏼
I've been with CD Baby since 2006. I pay once and they pay me sales and streams regularly. I don't have to pay every year so I can't lose my catalogue and my catalogue can transfer to my estate when the inevitable happens.
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The publishing is more intricate than that, it’s global publishing, like over 30 plus countries included. Which is almost impossible to keep up with solo, so it is a great deal.
Cdbaby l have used for 20 years they are good. I also use tune core now 2 new albums. The streets are watching volume 1 and 2 out now
Tunecore is ass. They believed a fake copyright claim for an artist with 1 monthly listener (obvious scam) took down my whole album. Froze my account so I didn’t have income for a few weeks.
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I use distrokid, onl;y thing that was uploaded in the first few ours was their generated youtube accounts and the songs that go along with them
I use Distrokid and I love them
Ditto Music
It's actually distributing to more stores than DistroKid but it's easier to upload and sync lyrics and edit your released projects on DistroKid. Ditto pays artists publishing royalties though and they have a PR marketing option for artists.
Good to know 👌🏼✌🏼
I tried tunecore for my first single. I liked it but I enjoy the flexibility of distrokid
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Distrokid. Anytime I’ve had an issue I’ve been able to get ahold of them within hours. Love em
I'm A HIP-HOP Music Artist, BrownDiamN. I Use Distrokid As My Music Distributor, I Am Satisfied With The Service 💯
Distrokid and I love it put out 7 projects in one year royalties in time no complaints
Consistency like spitta. Keep going. I love to see it. Im getting ready to drop my 4th album for the year
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I use CD baby! It seems like they have good customer service.
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I’ve been with Distrokid for a couple of years,my songs are normally live the same day if I submit them that morning
Thanks for this video! New sub here! I’m releasing an album via TuneCore in a few weeks. So far the experience has been great. Thanks for making me feel great about my choice!
How did your album release go?
You need a PRO, Publishing ADMINISTRATOR, Copyrights properly filed and ISRC creator code then to get your money
Okay so I've been using Tunecore and I gotta say I'm not as happy my face may appear, mostly due to customer service issues, Turn around Time, and pricing. This video did really help inform me with a more in depth review of distrokid. I put out a lotta music at once for creators to use so its gonna be more cost effective to make the jump to distrokid.
The problem with DistroKid is that if you leave they will take down all your music. That doesn't sit with me too well.
Yeah that sucks it shouldn't have to be that way but you can pay an extra 30 for your singles to stay up even after you use a different distributor
tunecore does the same, waste of money...
How do you feel about CD baby? Im figuring what I want to use and it's CD or Distro atm
@@StatikVibesBeats CD baby takes a percentage of royalties I believe and that's why I won't get it.
@@Afrado31 If you are talking about the legacy thing, that is only if you die.
I used sound exchange payneer, ascap, distro kid, and Songtrust
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United masters and it’s been cool so far , pretty simple process , only thing is it is subscription based
Are you still using unitedmasters?
I used to use TuneCore and switched to distrokid because I wanted to try something new. TuneCore paid me more for my singles than distrokid has, distrokid is simpler to use
So would you release singles through tunecore and albums through DistroKid or all on one of the platforms?
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Someone has been using my song in a video on TH-cam for about five years and monetized it. The video acquired 80 thousands views. Is there any way to claim retro the royalties?
I use United Masters, had it for a year and Tunecore/Distrokid is waaaayyy cheaper as far as membership price. Heard they market your music w/out you knowing so totally rebranding and marketing myself under a new distributor.
We have tracks on both platforms moreso bc we weren’t sure which to use and hadn't heard of DK yet, the first time around we went with TC first and experimented with DK for the next releases. TC was more expensive per upload, but the songs on DK have more streams. Not sure if that's a factor of the timing, if the newer music is "better," or if the platform tapped us into more listeners though
Distrokid. They're pretty good. I wish the dashboard was nicer.
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Tunecore now charges overall annually instead of per single/album and their payouts are quarterly {every 3 months}
Yes distrokid had gotta my songs on stores in 2hours or less many times
U done said this in another video, Distrokid is owned by Spotify. Go figure!
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Thanks man i'm glad that channel like this exist , much respect.. some ppl not will appreciatte the info given here ... ahhaha i wish to know all that like 8 years ago, i learned throught time..
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I use DistroKid and which ever package you choose (get the 35.99 one) it’s one payment a year so just get it. And start today!
Are you still using Distrokid?
DistroKid. Been pretty good. Helped me market my music.
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Tryna see this cause I don’t which one to use
I use Amuse. So far, no complaints about them
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Both but I switched to distrokid, because tunecore was charging first song 20 bucks and I wasn't making that on one song so I was paying monthly $20 each song I uploaded in that month so you can do the math digital kid only charges me once a year and as a label I get there put another artist on there and it's only 30 bucks a year
$30 a year for unlimited song releases?
They must just added that, they always updating and changing things but a few years ago I was using tunecore it became to much, I had songs tooking down 👎
Distrokid I've been using them for a couple of year's now
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Bro you been giving us real talk since the first video I saw
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I enjoy consuming this content on youtube better than IG
Why is that?
@@DorianGroup82 Bc once you choose content to watch, a scrolling feed is not the main part of the experience. I feel like I can just chill here, instead of on IG where I may feel compelled to keep scrolling. Obviously your content is sharing value, it's just harder to stay with you on IG in my experience due to the structure of the platform
As a publisher and a label I license my music almost exclusively and let the distributor do the retail and streaming placements. What is the best way to go about distribution
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The money I was gonna use to release my next album with them I’m gonna use it to pay for the unlimited plan 🙏🏽😌🥰
You explain everything so clear and concise! Thank you so much
No problem. I appreciate you watching. Are you releasing music?
@@DorianGroup82 yes I did this Christmas Eve ! On SoundCloud
1.ASCAP
2.BMI
3. Sesaac
I signed up with Symphonic. They have good service and fast uploads. But I'm not sure it matters which distributor a musician uses because TH-cam and Spotify and other streaming services are not counting my streams. I posted some songs via TH-cam on reddit groups where musicians can promote their music. Reddit showed 1.3k views while TH-cam showed 3 views. There is a scam going on. How are we supposed to know if streaming services are legitimately counting our streams? Who is monitoring this?
Yea you’re right. Distributor doesn’t matter. It comes down to marketing.
Being independent is the best bet for a lot of artists. The toughest aspect of being an independent artist is the constant promotion and marketing. This is the #1 expense will all businesses and usually the toughest.
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I’ve used CD baby and United Masters I’ve made more money with United Masters but it seems like CD baby offers more in certain areas. But I’d probably release with UM for the next project.
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Tunecore they been ok i cant complain. I know they cover the majority of streaming applications. If i knew which was better i would most definitely switch to who ever cover more.
Patience is a virtue though I wish everything just go back to the way it used to on some aspects of music!!🤷🏽
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Started on Cdbaby then Route Note (didn't like it) now Distrokid (up in 2 days)
I was using distrokid I had my ups and downs but I'm now getting the hang of it
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