I have an Equinox 800. I just did a similar comparison but only in gold mode 2 with coins from the 70s, .08 grams copper wire, .99 and .06 grams lead, tiny pieces of foil, and other very small pieces of metal. I also switched my coils between the 6 and the 11 inch coil. I place two 2 inch concrete bricks between the coil and the targets. For the very small targets I obviously couldn’t use the bricks. My intent is for hobby prospecting. Setting up a test bench test like you did gave me so much more confidence and understanding of action vs reaction from the detector. My conclusion for the hot soils in Colorado is GM2 in 40 kHz. Multi does detect ever so slightly deeper on minus one gram lead. The benefit from using only 40 KHz is the extreme difference in noise. Multi frequency is non stop constant chatter. Visual ids from negatives to 20s and 30s, Even with ground balancing and noise cancellation. The only solution was lowering the sensitivity. From 25 down to 20 was a significant loss in depth. 40 kHz at max sensitivity without ground balancing and noise cancellation was still much more stable and so much more peaceful. With 40 khz and not all that damn noise I could clearly hear the threshold break without a visual target id on multiple test. I can hear the threshold break in multi but only because I know when I’m passing the target by the coil and I can wave the target to pronounce the threshold but I believe in an actual environment to be overwhelming and not effective. Again the single frequency benefit only seems to work best with the lead because my test using the coins in single frequency has a loss of 20% average detection depth with both size coils. I hope you do more videos because it seems like the two best videos I’ve seen on TH-cam explaining the frequencies are the least viewed when some high view stuff is just trash. Thanks.
Thanks for the comments. I would like to do some more videos but I do not have the equinox anymore. Doing tests like you described is really the only way to get a good idea what settings work best for certain situations and targets.
Another great video!! thanks for the time and effort you put in to doing this. I as I’m sure lots of others greatly appreciated your time and help. Cheers from your Aussie Viewers
Excellent points. I normally hunt trashy parks either in all metal or discriminate iron and foil with sensitivity cranked up. I want to do relatively the same when equinox arrives and tweak it so i get best depth. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks Bill...you are the one I watch when I want to find out which setting to use on my detectors....I would love it if you would appear on your videos as well...that way I could put a face to your detecting videos...GL and HH
Very interesting charts. Last time I went to my Civil War campsite, I tried Gold 2 since the site is not very trashy. I did very well on mid conductors...3 ringers and buttons.
After several months using the detector in the field I can conclude that this air test is its actual behavior in the soil. If I find the marginal target in some mode I would switch to other modes to compare the signals. Equinox is always deeper in gold 2 mode.
What recovery speed was used for the first two test I see the nickle at 16 inches at a reactivity of 1 which would be the deepest out of all the test combined. I believe factory preset is 3?
There are some people (trolls) always give thumbs down no matter what. It don't bother me, most people are decent....;o) Dimes are about the size of your thumbnail close to 3/4" and the nickels are a bit bigger like 7/8". This is measured across them.
Went out with mowerdog yesterday and gave the equinox 800 some park time. I ran park 2 as you have yours set up. It ran great. I do wish iron would stop coming in vdi ranges that high conductors range in. Not sure if that is a software bug or not. Hopefully, minelab addresses it.
Too early to tell. I need to go out with someone and compare a bunch of signals between the etrac and the EQ. to really get an idea which one performs better in real detecting.
Very detailed analysis here thank you. I’m getting allot of falsing with iron on my Nox 600. It makes a loud beep like it’s something good when it should cancel the noise out. Nevertheless I’m getting constant falsing even with low sensitivity & an iron bias of 3 which is the highest setting on the Nox 600. I’ve tried with discrimination and all metal too. Not sure what else I’m doing wrong. Any help from yourself on what I can do to cancel out as much falsing is greatly appreciated.
check your coil for wobble. Stock shafts are very prone to causing just this. What you should do is upgrade to a light weight carbon fiber 2 piece shaft to eliminate this issue.
Great video. So You can build your custom setting and switched it on when need to cross check some doubtful deep signals. Also I'm curious if the threshold on would have some influence on death.?
I'm sitting here waiting for my Equinox 800 to show up. I'm chomping at the bit! I found the "recovery" stats particularly interesting. Would you say it's a good idea to set the recovery rate to "1" for all the modes? Btw, I'm upgrading from my White's 5000D - ha.
Great info as I'm considering this one as my next purchase next month. Question: I never see you use the eTrac any longer. Is it outdated technology when compared to the new detectors? I love mine and I amaze other detectorists when I find coins they have just passed over with their newer models. Would appreciate your views on the eTrac still being a "goto" machine when u want to get serious about finding coins. Keep up the great videos my friend - you are my #1 choice for detector videos.
Thanks. I still have and use the Etrac I just haven't made any videos with it lately. Right now if I could only use one it would still be the etrac. That may change later I have a lot more testing to do.....;o)
DirtFishing That's what I thought but thanks for ask the info on that new toy I'm looking at that one or the Deus what do you think? I'm liking your test test results. Carl HH
It has been a long time since I used a Deus but I would take this over one. I did not like the way the Deus lumped a lot of deep targets in the same zone. I got tired of digging deep pieces of foil that came in at 98 or whatever the number was.
DirtFishing Thanks a lot I appreciate your honesty in with watching your test results I was kind of leaning towards the minelab I have a ctx3030 now. Just looking for a new toy. Thanks Carl
Really enjoy your videos, wuestion, do you have a video to program the trashy park pattern for tbe E trac ? Ive been looking througb your videos and cant seem to find one ? Thanks sgsin for all your videos, Dude Hammer
I dont think I have a video of it but I think the instructions and the mode and pattern file are on findmall to download. www.findmall.com/read.php?63,1694421
I have an Equinox 800. I just did a similar comparison but only in gold mode 2 with coins from the 70s, .08 grams copper wire, .99 and .06 grams lead, tiny pieces of foil, and other very small pieces of metal. I also switched my coils between the 6 and the 11 inch coil. I place two 2 inch concrete bricks between the coil and the targets. For the very small targets I obviously couldn’t use the bricks. My intent is for hobby prospecting. Setting up a test bench test like you did gave me so much more confidence and understanding of action vs reaction from the detector. My conclusion for the hot soils in Colorado is GM2 in 40 kHz. Multi does detect ever so slightly deeper on minus one gram lead. The benefit from using only 40 KHz is the extreme difference in noise. Multi frequency is non stop constant chatter. Visual ids from negatives to 20s and 30s, Even with ground balancing and noise cancellation. The only solution was lowering the sensitivity. From 25 down to 20 was a significant loss in depth. 40 kHz at max sensitivity without ground balancing and noise cancellation was still much more stable and so much more peaceful. With 40 khz and not all that damn noise I could clearly hear the threshold break without a visual target id on multiple test. I can hear the threshold break in multi but only because I know when I’m passing the target by the coil and I can wave the target to pronounce the threshold but I believe in an actual environment to be overwhelming and not effective. Again the single frequency benefit only seems to work best with the lead because my test using the coins in single frequency has a loss of 20% average detection depth with both size coils. I hope you do more videos because it seems like the two best videos I’ve seen on TH-cam explaining the frequencies are the least viewed when some high view stuff is just trash. Thanks.
Thanks for the comments. I would like to do some more videos but I do not have the equinox anymore. Doing tests like you described is really the only way to get a good idea what settings work best for certain situations and targets.
Great video. It really helps me wrap my head around the whole thing. I would love to see these charts after you get a chance to tweak the settings.
I found this very interesting looking at the difference in depth on recovery speeds. Thank you for sharing, I am learning the nox 800
Another great video!! thanks for the time and effort you put in to doing this.
I as I’m sure lots of others greatly appreciated your time and help.
Cheers from your Aussie Viewers
Your welcome.
Fantastic Info Bill. Thanks for giving us something ponder on while we wait
Thanks.
Excellent points. I normally hunt trashy parks either in all metal or discriminate iron and foil with sensitivity cranked up. I want to do relatively the same when equinox arrives and tweak it so i get best depth. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks Bill...you are the one I watch when I want to find out which setting to use on my detectors....I would love it if you would appear on your videos as well...that way I could put a face to your detecting videos...GL and HH
Your welcome. I might break the camera if I do that.....Lol
Very interesting charts. Last time I went to my Civil War campsite, I tried Gold 2 since the site is not very trashy. I did very well on mid conductors...3 ringers and buttons.
Cool
After several months using the detector in the field I can conclude that this air test is its actual behavior in the soil. If I find the marginal target in some mode I would switch to other modes to compare the signals. Equinox is always deeper in gold 2 mode.
What recovery speed was used for the first two test I see the nickle at 16 inches at a reactivity of 1 which would be the deepest out of all the test combined. I believe factory preset is 3?
Looks like 6
Excellent review! Thanks a million !
Great videos also!
Your welcome
Excellent information. Thank you
Very interesting info on the factory settings. How big are dimes and nickels please? Also how the hell has this got 2 thumbs down?
There are some people (trolls) always give thumbs down no matter what. It don't bother me, most people are decent....;o)
Dimes are about the size of your thumbnail close to 3/4" and the nickels are a bit bigger like 7/8". This is measured across them.
Awesome Video! Thank you👍👍👍
Awesome
Went out with mowerdog yesterday and gave the equinox 800 some park time. I ran park 2 as you have yours set up. It ran great. I do wish iron would stop coming in vdi ranges that high conductors range in. Not sure if that is a software bug or not. Hopefully, minelab addresses it.
I have issues with rusty bottlecaps coming in right where a nickel does too. That dont happen on the etrac.
@@DirtFishing Me too. Iron rings in alot at 25 which also shouldn't happen. I love my Etrac also.
Great video!
Thanks.
So do you still like your ct , v3i. And etrac more? Or are you switching
Too early to tell. I need to go out with someone and compare a bunch of signals between the etrac and the EQ. to really get an idea which one performs better in real detecting.
Very detailed analysis here thank you. I’m getting allot of falsing with iron on my Nox 600. It makes a loud beep like it’s something good when it should cancel the noise out. Nevertheless I’m getting constant falsing even with low sensitivity & an iron bias of 3 which is the highest setting on the Nox 600. I’ve tried with discrimination and all metal too. Not sure what else I’m doing wrong. Any help from yourself on what I can do to cancel out as much falsing is greatly appreciated.
check your coil for wobble. Stock shafts are very prone to causing just this. What you should do is upgrade to a light weight carbon fiber 2 piece shaft to eliminate this issue.
Great video. So You can build your custom setting and switched it on when need to cross check some doubtful deep signals. Also I'm curious if the threshold on would have some influence on death.?
Yes to the first question. I played with the threshold some and did not see any increase in depth.
I'm sitting here waiting for my Equinox 800 to show up. I'm chomping at the bit! I found the "recovery" stats particularly interesting. Would you say it's a good idea to set the recovery rate to "1" for all the modes? Btw, I'm upgrading from my White's 5000D - ha.
I think the recovery speed would kind of depend on the site and the targets you were after.
you are the best man
nice job, thanks. more data, more better.
Bill your opinion? Better machine ctx3030 or equinox? Thanks for the great videos.. God bless
I would have to say the 3030 because of the extra features like the FE and Co numbers, target trace, different audio options, like smooth, long, etc.
thank you for the info
No problem
Great info as I'm considering this one as my next purchase next month. Question: I never see you use the eTrac any longer. Is it outdated technology when compared to the new detectors? I love mine and I amaze other detectorists when I find coins they have just passed over with their newer models. Would appreciate your views on the eTrac still being a "goto" machine when u want to get serious about finding coins. Keep up the great videos my friend - you are my #1 choice for detector videos.
Thanks. I still have and use the Etrac I just haven't made any videos with it lately. Right now if I could only use one it would still be the etrac. That may change later I have a lot more testing to do.....;o)
Maybe the best setting for depth. Please ?
Ok was this charts done with a air test or in dirt. Carl HH
air test.
DirtFishing
That's what I thought but thanks for ask the info on that new toy I'm looking at that one or the Deus what do you think? I'm liking your test test results. Carl HH
It has been a long time since I used a Deus but I would take this over one. I did not like the way the Deus lumped a lot of deep targets in the same zone. I got tired of digging deep pieces of foil that came in at 98 or whatever the number was.
DirtFishing
Thanks a lot I appreciate your honesty in with watching your test results I was kind of leaning towards the minelab I have a ctx3030 now. Just looking for a new toy. Thanks Carl
Really enjoy your videos, wuestion, do you have a video to program the trashy park pattern for tbe E trac ? Ive been looking througb your videos and cant seem to find one ? Thanks sgsin for all your videos, Dude Hammer
I dont think I have a video of it but I think the instructions and the mode and pattern file are on findmall to download. www.findmall.com/read.php?63,1694421
DirtFishing , thanks Bill !
Very interesting, thanks for sharing 👍
Hey man i want to buy a v3i or a etrac but now the Equinox made my options more difficult to decide, what would you do?
I mostly hunt public parks for coins so to me the Etrac is my number one choice. It is just more accurate and gives more target info.
What if took hunted in the gold2 all the time. Carl HH
I am going to do some tests with the gold 2 in dirt. Hopefully it will punch deep.
Can you please post another videos showing how to set it up ??
How to set it up to do what.......;o)
And maybe you can show the screen. Please. Thanks
1:52 DIME coin is silver?
No
Seriously. Gold at 15 inches ???
The detector was set on the gold program and was able to air test a nickel at 15"
Please in Spanish