How to sand Aluminum?
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- Evan from Evan's detailing and polishing breaks down two different methods on how to sand aluminum. Both rotary and da or orbital method are shown in this video on both aluminum wheels and aluminum tanks. These sanding methods will also work well on stainless steel but lubrication should be used on stainless to prevent the breakdown of the sandpaper. Hope you find this video helpful and hope you check out more of our great videos.
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I had to buy some very pitted aluminum semi wheels because new ones that would fit were outrageous. These tutorials have helped me make them look like a million bucks ....thanks so much!
Glad to help and great to hear you are getting great results.
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I just did a junk yard wheel today to practice.
I used a da and started at 80 grit!
After I acid washed the wheel.
Worked it all the way to 220.
Then heavy cut and then polish.
Took 4 hours for both sides of one wheel.
After seeing this, I need to get the orbital sander. Looks like it took way more off way faster then the DA.
The heavy pitting on the bolt holes took forever.
Thanks for sharing sir. U make it look easy.
Thanks for watching. Hope my videos help.
Good Morning,
I Really Appreciate You doing these Videos, Thanks A lot Sir !!
Appreciate you watching them. Thank you.
Awesome videos. Tons of detail. Really helpful for guys (like me) getting into polishing
Glad to help. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for all your videos they have really helped me with my truck polish efforts.
I am truly happy that you have found my videos helpful. Thank you for watching them and taking time to comment.
Amazing video. Now a follower. Looks like I've got another detailing skill to learn. 🤟
Awesome, thank you! Truly appreciate you watching and supporting.
Man I wish it wasnt so far me to drive I would love to take a crack and your training course I've been polishing for several years now but always always love learning new trick and tip thanks for the videos
Maybe one day!
This was the perfect video well detailed on the Da and Rotary
Thank you. Appreciate you watching
I want to get a t shirt that says "Polish the World." in honor of this guy.
I could get you one made lol we print our own apparel in our shop. If you want anything checkout out goshineon.com website or email melinda@goshineon.com
Awesome content brother, god bless you for all of your schooling
Thank you, I truly appreciate it. I enjoy being able to help others. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thank for your expertise and time.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Great videos as I'm polishing our black company pete and right know it looks great but this will help take it to the next level
You'll do great. Take your time and be patient and you will do fantastic. Good luck and if you ever need anything don't hesitate to ask.
The real Down N' Dirty.. Thanks Boi!!!
Super Important Information
Thank you. Much appreciated. I try to be as informative as possible.
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Thank you, truly appreciate the support!
Great Video, Thanks for Teaching us.
Glad to help. Thank you for watching.
Great job showing and thanks
Thank you for watching.
Love the videos and I’m learning a lot
Thank you for watching and commenting. Appreciate that.
Nice job. Excellent tutorial.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
Great stuff thank you ! Can you list the sand paper you use and where to purchase it please. I dont see it in your store.
goshineon.com we carry all the grits and sandpaper we use.
Another great video had to watch gotta super ugly w900 to do tomorrow will post pics to Facebook!
Pics or it didn't happen.
You got this bud. No worries.
They were on Facebook lol
I'll be honest... that wheel looked like garbage at the beginning... I would have chucked it. This now it going to have me looking for vintage wheels to restore. Thanks man👍 Very informative on the process of using a 400 then a 220 depending on the sanding device. Would you consider doing a training course DVD or media version for those of us that are in the southern or western US?
I’ve thought about it only issue is if I sell one dvd what stops anyone from ripping it and posting it? No way to protect the content.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing I understand, it can be hard to capture that.
Thanks so much... very clear and precise..
You're welcome. Thank you for watching.
Are you using a makita grinder with a sanding pad on it? Or a orbital sander?
I use both depending on what I need to accomplish.
Is it possible to sand too much? If you used too low of a sand like a 150,200 ? Would you have to do that to the whole wheel to make it even ?
Would you cover cast aluminum parts? I have some engine parts I’d like to shine up at home. Thank you and best wishes.
I will be in the near future.
Do you wet sand? I’m just starting to do pontoons on boats and I am hearing I should wet sand then cut then polish.
I personally never wet sand. Getting the aluminum wet and gummy makes a lot harder work for me to polish so I avoid it. But that is me personally.
Hello thank you Im starting againg and have two of those to do tommorow ! I just need to get me a small grinder and that sand paper!
Hope everything turned out, sorry for the late response.
Very helpful thanks!!
Glad it was helpful!
What rpm are you spinning the rotary?
What is the best rpm to sand using a rotary?
I recommend 1800-2200 on the rotary.
Do you hold the rotary flat?
I hold it up on the right edge. Great question. thanks for watching.
I love the way you do thinks and I learning allot I think I'm ready for my rig I will sent you the link I helpmi do good job
Awesome thank you!
Good work man
Appreciate it
Hey man, if you had access to a sand blaster, would that work? Or should we just stick to those power tools and your technique?
Sand blasting makes the metal really hot and in my opinion it makes it really tough to polish. It is almost like it burns the metal. I avoid sand blasted parts.
Getting ready to use my rotary sander on my pontoon boat. Wish me luck lol.
Hope it worked out for you!
Hey Evan what rpm do u recommend for the rotary for sanding?
Thank you
Thank you.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing 😎🤘
What sort of tracks are visible after either method. After buffing process can one see any sanding marks, especially with the rotary method? Thanks. (I'm talking eyeball at 6")
Not sure what you mean.
What about drive wheels?Do you have a video using the same process on drive wheels?
I don't sand drive wheels on the truck. Only off but this winter I will do a how to sand a wheel video on here.
what kind of sandpaper do you use for Aluminum?
some people use silicon carbide sand paper for aluminum.
They say avoid using the aluminum-oxide sandpaper on Aluminum itself.
What do you use on Aluminum?
I use aluminum oxide and had great results.
Do you wear your mask when your sanding or only when your polishing?
Both. Aluminum dust is bad for you.
Hi Evan, what is the speed of the rotary polisher? Are you also adding pressure? So we need to tilt the disc and polish?
Thank you!
So what brand sandpaper do you use? Very informative video. Thanks Evan
We sell what we use on goshineon.com. But Mirka makes the blend that we use. It isn't something you can just get off the counter.
good day .. I have problem to achieve a final mirror finish I am polishing in the tank but it is cloudy, what do you recommend me to do ... I am applying 3 steps with a yellow, violet and white pro 40 wheel
I'm not familiar with the zephyr stuff but send pics to my phone and I will try to get you in the right direction. I would have to see what the cloudy looks like to be able to tell you a solution to fix it.
Link to sand paper?
goshineon.com
Have you ever tried forced rotation/gear driven dual action? Like a Flex 3401 or Rotex? What are your thoughts on it for metal sanding?
Thanks for the video, metal polishing is hard dirty work. You guys earn every dollar. I do more paint correction, but I polish the odd wheel, toolbox, etc.. I bought a Renegade metal kit and its worked well, the end result is very satisfying, but its a workout!
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I've tried it and don't like it. But that is a personal preference. I know many that use them and love em. I just don't like the pattern it leaves.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing gotcha, thanks!
What are the model numbers of the tools you use,thank you. I am new I want to go 7 in 3500 to start
Links are in the description. Every tool we use is linked in the show more section. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video great info and what do you recommend using for a the setting on orbital sander wide open or on a lower setting?
Very Helpful thanks
glad to help. Thanks for watching.
Do you ever use a interference pad between the paper and backing plate? Just curious if it would float over the defects vs knocking them down. Thank you for your time.
I don't. I'm not a big fan of the interface pad and the finish it leaves. But I do know many people that use them and they do a great job. It is just my personal preference not to use it.
If you have heavy pitting or alot of material to knock off then you want the pad alone if you have say a heavy contour or rounded piece it helps to have some give.
Was anyone else expecting his hoodie draw strings to get caught in the rotary sander and cause some excitement?!?
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Good stuff!
Thank you
Hey Evan, awesome videos man. Are both rotary and da both using 5" pads and paper? Thank you
Yes they are! I find 5" leaves less waste.
Wow just plain and simple video you explained it in such apples and pears couldn't get any simpler than this definitely you're the best I've seen out here in YT and thanks to you i now know how to sand and polish keep up the awesome work and god bless!
Thank you so much. I appreciate your kind words and I am truly happy to hear that the videos are helpful.
You have to be careful sanding aluminum, aluminum dust is extremely flammable if it mixes with other metals and water it will start a fire and a small confined space can such a a trash can or even a small room can potentially just be a bomb
Do you need to worry about the aluminum dust?
Absolutely. Aluminum dust is hazardous to your health.
How must should I be looking to pay for polishing my dump truck wheels 24.5 in good condition. 6 wheels. Just ballpark please
I price everything by the piece and depends where you live. Everyone charges different based on their cost of living in their area and the cost of their materials.
Quick question. What do you use to protect your final finish, after your final step with an airway?
The compound is filled with greases and waxes. The compound seals it up.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing thanks for the response. I usually go back over it with your liquid heavy cut compound. Am I doing to much or being to cautious? This Utah weather really tends to beat up the aluminum.
Can you comment on the Alcoa coating on these wheels ? Can I cut and polish the coating they use or do I need to sand the coating off ? These are 5 yr old never polished before and pretty dull. If you're sanding off the coating, what grit are you using ? Ive experimented with 150grit on a DA/orbital and it's not effective. Polishing the coating turns it yellow from the heat.
You have to sand the coating off. You can't just buff it. It will burn and turn black. Check out my video on how to sand and polish a durabrite. That should help answer a lot of your questions.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing hey thanks a bunch !
At what rpm r u doing it with the rotary
hellooo, bit of a smart arse comment, but I think the break drum couldn’t sit directly on that outside of the rim. If it was used as steer, the drum sits inside, same for a lazy axle single. For twin wheels on the inner side where the drum sits inside like on the front, the outer wheel is turned around, and here both twins sit ‘face to face’. No break drum … just nuts
It can if it was an inside wheel turned into an outside wheel. 😉
Thank you!
Thank you for watching.
What are the speed specs on the orbital sander?
Not sure to be honest.
What speed are you using on the rotary machine?
Where and what kind of sand paper do u use
goshineon.com I sell everything I personally use.
Can i use rotary for sanding to extra fine like a P2000 sand paper and then polishing?
You surely can. Everyone has their own way.
Which one is the best machine rotary or DA?
I prefer makita rotary and da. But it is a personal preference thing.
Is your training course on line at all.
I’m in Australia
We do not provide online courses. Sorry but thank you for watching
What speed are you running the rotary at
1800-2200 rpm
Evan what RPM you prefer to run the rotary at?
What is the pad called on your website
Sanding backing pad is the rotary pad name. It is in the sanding tab.
Quick question what do you run that makita DA at RPM wise?
Half speed.
What speed u sand on?
Hi Evan. What scotcbrite wheel do you use to take off clear coat on aluminum?
You can find them on our site at www.goshineon.com
Hey Evan! I have a question for you unrelated to this video! I’m not sure how to send you a email, but I just purchased a Makita 9237c. The variable speed polisher. When I put my airways on, they scrape against the grinder, I need an extension like you have on your Dewalt variable in a previous video. Where do you get these extensions? I can’t seem to find one. Thank you for your great videos! I’ve learnt so much from you and appreciate each one!
Thanks, James
goshineon.com/shop has arbor extensions. Thank you for watching the videos.
Can you tell me a good electric DA to purchase like the one you’re using and is it a 5 or 6in?
Thank you!
Check out the description! You can find the information there. Thanks for watching.
what rpm is the makita at with the 400 grit when u doing tank please ?
I spin between 1800 and 2100 rpm depending on the mood of my day. LOL
Hi Evan. What is reason for not going faster like 12000 rpm? Thanks and thank you for sharing
@@peterolesens Airway buffs are only rated to hold up to 3500 rpm. The buffs would explode at that fast. Very dangerous
I’m definitely gonna try sanding with my grinder
Just keep moving. You’ve got this. Shine on.
What's the rpm your run at?
On sanding I run between 1200-1800 depending on how deep I want it to bite.
Great videos, first time viewer asnd new subscriber. Question, I am replacing my painted 22.5 with some new aluminum ones and I am curious if you have any recommendations for protecting the inner polished sides? Thanks.
What do you mean?
Sorry I meant what are your suggestions for protecting the polished inner sides of the wheels when they're so hard to reach.
Whay not use aluminum asid cleaner first to remove most of the oxidation
I'm not a fan of acid. Check out my video on acid. I really do not like it. It does more damage than good and if you are sanding you'll take off more than what the acid cleaned anyways so you are just wasting money on the acid.
Why don't you use an interface pad ??..
I find they leave something behind for me. But that’s just me.
Do you prefer air da or electric da?
Electric.
Hey Evan. I have a question. Did u ever do polish Sandcast Aluminium?
Like Nathan Airchime horns. Got one that i'd like to shine up a bit. Is there any difference to "normal" alumimium Tanks e.g. ?
Sand cast is very different. Lots of sanding and some sand castings will have some air pockets and pits or holes that won't come out. As far as buffing it is very similar just more work and more heat.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Thanks for the answer. Except for one Bell they are in a relatively good shape, no holes or pits. I Think theres not too much sanding needed. I'll try it out and See what i can get. Take care.
Gday, just getting into polising myself, everytime I try to sand something and then polish it goes black ? What could I be doing wrong ? I Sand to 600 grit, rouge and wheel i have work fine on alloy that I havnt sanded yet but once sanded just goes black
Could be a whole list of reasons why this could happen. If you wanna send pics to my cell 9209790386 I can try to help diagnose the issue. Sometimes it is a sandpaper or sander issue. Sometimes it is a user error moving too fast with the sander. Send pics and I will try to help.
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing thanks for the reply mate appreciate it, went bit slower sanding and buffing helped alot, I won't bother ya mobile number all the way from Aussie land cheers mate
keep up the great videos 👍
Why not hit it with acid first to get rid of the oxidation and scaling?
I don’t like using acid. It tends to dry out the aluminum making more sanding work.
Where is your shop located?
Chilton WI
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Thanks for watching.
The first thing at everything you do should be safety why don't you wear your mask man? I'm sure you have family who wants you to live a long time it aggravates me when i see this he knows it's bad for him but he don't care. By the way I'm a fan of your videos I think you have a nice talent to polish .
I always wear a respirator. I don't sometimes during these videos but when I'm working in my shop or on the road I never polish without a respirator. It is very dangerous and should always have a respirator on.
no respirator, eye or hearing protection but hes got his gloves on lol
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Clean the metal with a cleaning laser is the fastest way, and then polish.
Thanks for watching.
What is the cost of the class?
It’s $500 a day. Most people do minimum 2 days.
How come you people don’t use air tools just asking
Air is inconsistent which makes it more difficult to control pressure and speed.
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HAY EVAN DO YOU LIKE SOUR CREAM ON YOUR TACOS
I like them with and without.
You should be wearing a mask when doing that stuff. You should remove the draw strings on your hoodie, they can get tangled in you ripped paper and cut off circulation to your brain.
Lol all accurate statements. Lol
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I do
I wanna know why the new husky pneumatic rotary sander has Diablo pads that don't stick.
I thought getting a pneumatic would be like my crap hyper tough velcro style and it's not.
Start sanding and the Diablo pads just fly right off, that's after peeling the backing off to "stick" to the pad lol
I only use velcro. Working in a dust filled dirty shop doesn't do well with sticky back sand paper. Plus diablo paper is less than ideal for aluminum. It can be used on it as that is what it says on the box. But it isn't made for working on aluminum that needs polished.