Hi, Thank you for the video. It is very helpful. I do have a Quesition. I got my CREST form signed by overseas consultant. I understand that their registration document needs to submitted as well. Should I submit it along with the CREST form or will they ask me later. I would appreciate your response.
Thank you @emedica for this very informative video. Just to be sure, if I worked with a consultant from January 2022 to April 2022, can they sign my crest form for the 2025 recruitment year? Many thanks
Unfortunately that is just outside the eligibility as you need at least 3 months full time equivalent wholly within the 3.5 years before the start date of training. As training in the next round will start 6th August 2025, you would have had to work at least 6 February to 6 May to be within 3.5 years. If your job ended in April, you will be a little bit short. You can contact the recruitment team directly to confirm.
It is very informative video, precise and to the point I would like to ask the crest form needs to be signed by one consultant only or more than one? It is better to be signed by one or more And if I was working continuously for 9 years in one place, should I write it from the start period? Or better to write starting from the last 3.5 yrs
The eligiblity requirements states there should be no more than 18 months experience for the applied post at the time of starting the post but the job I am currently working will give me experience of 18 months and 5 days in that speciality at the time of start date. How do I manage that?
You can either resign from your job early so you don't go over 18 months, or apply for ST3 level later if you can meet the requirements for that as you won't be eligible for this particular job if you complete more than the experience allowed
This is highly informative and precise.Thank you very much! Just wondering, one of the criteria listed for GP training is Eligibility to work in the UK.I am currently working overseas.Does this mean I need a visa before application ? What exactly does it mean?
Is it valid to apply for an ST3/ST4 post if you are applying from another country? What if a consultant is registered with the GMC but without a license to practice at the moment; can they sign?
CREST is used for applications for training at ST1 / CT1 level. For ST3/ST4 you need a different form for alternative competences. If you search for the specialty you are interested in, you will find the relevant details in the person specification
If I am currently working under my signing consultant, what should my end date of supervising should be. The day it is getting signed or the day my post is expected to end?
can you clarify what a consultant equivalent is ? and do I need the CREST signed from my current/recent job or can it be from previous job as long as it is in 3.5 years time frame?
That is listed on the CREST form. You can sign it from any job where you had at least 3 months full time equivalent continuously within the 3.5 years before the start of training.
Hello, hope you are well. Really love your content sir. I have few doubts regarding the end date of my current post as I have to enter this in the training application as well as CREST form. It mentioned in the application, to write the end date as the day before the training commences, but when I try to look for the training commencement date, it is not confirmed yet. 1) What would be wise to put in the application as the end date of my current post? 2) Should I do the same in my CREST form if I'm getting it signed in my current post? (or shall I just put UP TO DATE?) 3) Does the duration after the application closing time count towards the mandatory one year experience after FY1 to apply for training post? (Eligibility criteria) I would be grateful if you could kindly answer my doubts. Thank you so much.
1. Training for round 1 starts the first Wednesday in August, so the end date will be the first Tuesday in August. 2. Either option is fine 3. Yes, as you only need the required experience by the start date of training, not the time of application
Thankyou sir for this informative video...just wanted to know if I get my CREST form signed right now and attempt for January exam, would I be needing a new crest form again for the September exam or the current signed form would still be accepted?
Thank you !! Just a quick question…I will finish 2 years postgraduate internship in Japan by March 2027. Am i eligible to apply for MSRA exam in November 2026 window? I will have finished my 2year internship by the time the post starts which is probably in August 2027, but will i be eligible to apply as i wont have finished internship by the time of application? Thank you so much! 😊
The eligibility to start training includes having at least 12 months clinical experience after full registration with your medical council - in most cases this means 1 year after completing internship. If you got full registration after 1 year of internship then you may be eligible if you get a CREST form signed. Please contact the recruitment team directly to check about your specific circumstances.
1. In posts, should I add my whole employment history? Or should I only add the employment when the signing consultant supervised me?? 2.If I have my crest dully signed, full GMC Registration but not the license to practice at the time of application, can I still apply for training job(st1)?? I will get it before start of training but will my application be accepted?
1. Only the employment when the signing consultant supervised you goes on CREST. Your full employment history goes in the Oriel application. 2. License is not needed at the time of application, only by the start of training
Do we have to digitally fill out the form or it can be handwritten? There is this column asking for the Applicant Name and in the bracket printed is mentioned.
Im working in hematology field and currently on my Plab pathway. Can i get the CREST form signed by my consultant.is it acceptable? Like hematology is included in clinical criteria or not?
If your consultant is in a non acute specialty like this, and they tick everything as personally witnessed they may query how some of the competences were achieved in this setting. If they have ticked evidence received for some competences and provided details of an appropriately qualified person for that, it will be fine.
You may be able to get the CREST signed, but are not eligible to apply for training as you need 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training to be eligible for CT1/ST1 training posts
@@EmedicaEducation hello sir ..if the consultant has changed his place of work what should we do ? Get the hospital stamp of our original place of work or of his current hospital?
Sir housejob experience isn't considered to sign of crest form? Do i have to work 3 months paid under a consultant, after my housejob? And lets say i dont get it signed in my home country then i can work under consultant in uk to get it signed off? Thirdly after getting my crest form signed from home country, am i exempted from FY2 post? Means I can directly apply for non training job?
You can get your CREST form signed from your house job if you demonstrated the criteria. CREST is a requirement for applications for training at ST1 / CT1 level. It is not relevant/ required to apply for a non training post. CREST is only one requirement to apply for training. You still need to meet the other eligibility criteria, which may differ for each specialty. You need a minimum of 2 years clinical experience including internship to start training at ST1 / CT1 level. CREST does not exempt you from the experience required.
@@EmedicaEducation how about GP ship? Can I apply directly after getting crest form signed? (Let's say am not getting non training job and gave msra exam)
You can apply if you will have 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training/ meet all the eligibility criteria. Please read this article for details www.emedica.co.uk/applygp.html
I have crest form signed by my HOD where i worked from nov 2021-dec 2023. Now i am working in a different hospital which is govt . I have started it from 5th August . My recent consultant is willing to sign my Crest form .but it will be 3 months only by 5th of November. So should I use the one from previous consultant or should i wait till 5th November and get it signed. Because i am planning to apply for the post commencing on AUG 2025.
Hello sir, I have done my post in Jan 2023. And the consultant I have worked with then is signing my crest form. So can I mention the date of completion when he is signing it that is in 2024 or when my post was finished in 2023. Please help me with this query
@@EmedicaEducation i dont understand how do people who have only given plab 1 sit for msra exam and have had there crest form signed?how do they show full gmc registration by the start date of training ?how does that work?
You don't need GMC registration to get CREST signed, or to apply, you need it by the start date of training which is several months after the time of application. Doctors that fail to get their full GMC registration in time will lose any job offer received
If there are errors on the form, you will usually be given 72 hours to correct them. If you have not submitted a correct form by the end of the application window your application will be withdrawn and you will not be longlisted
Competences have to be demonstrated from a job within 3.5 years of the start date of training, so for August 2024, it would have to be after January 2021. You would also need at least 3 months full time equivalent continuously supervised by the same consultant after January 2021 for them to be eligible to sign the form
@@EmedicaEducationshould the joining date of the job be from January 2021 or the end date? When is 3.5 years calculated from? Joining date or end date?
The period the competences were signed from needs to be at least 3 months full time equivalent continuously within 3.5 years of the start date of training. You'd need 3+ months from February 2021 onwards for this round as jobs start August 2024.
Potentially, depending on If you are still able to get CREST signed from a job within 3.5 years of the start date of training and if you meet the eligibility criteria for the specialty you are applying for you can. Please read through the person specification for details
That depends on which specialty you are applying for. Everyone starts GP training at ST1 level. For some specialties you can directly enter higher training at ST3 or ST4 level if you have the right experience and competences signed off, but you wouldn't need a CREST for those as that is only for ST1 / CT1 training posts. Please go through the person specification and official recruitment site for the specialty you are interested in for details
Hello Dr Rahman, I have a doubt, Can an overseas graduate with one year of experience is eligible for CT/ST or gp training if they get thier CREST form signed ? Can a doctor with 1 year of experience get a CREST form signed ??
You can get a CREST signed if you meet all the competences, but would not be eligible for training as you need 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training to apply for ST1 / CT1 jobs. CREST is only 1 criterion - you need to meet all of them to be eligible. Details for GP training at www.emedica.co.uk/applygp
The minimum time to get CREST signed is 3 months full time equivalent with the same supervisor. It may take much longer to demonstrate all the criteria
What a straight forward explanation. May god brightens your path.
Consice and to the point information!! 👍🏻
so precise and informative
Hi, Thank you for the video. It is very helpful. I do have a Quesition. I got my CREST form signed by overseas consultant. I understand that their registration document needs to submitted as well. Should I submit it along with the CREST form or will they ask me later. I would appreciate your response.
It needs to be attached to the CREST and uploaded as a single file at the time of application
Thank you @emedica for this very informative video. Just to be sure, if I worked with a consultant from January 2022 to April 2022, can they sign my crest form for the 2025 recruitment year? Many thanks
Unfortunately that is just outside the eligibility as you need at least 3 months full time equivalent wholly within the 3.5 years before the start date of training. As training in the next round will start 6th August 2025, you would have had to work at least 6 February to 6 May to be within 3.5 years. If your job ended in April, you will be a little bit short. You can contact the recruitment team directly to confirm.
Thank you for the informative video. Is it ok if my hospital stamp not in English?
You would usually need an official translation for anything not in English so they can verify the details match
It is very informative video, precise and to the point
I would like to ask the crest form needs to be signed by one consultant only or more than one?
It is better to be signed by one or more
And if I was working continuously for 9 years in one place, should I write it from the start period? Or better to write starting from the last 3.5 yrs
Only one consultant can sign the form. I recommend you get it signed from the most recent eligible job
The eligiblity requirements states there should be no more than 18 months experience for the applied post at the time of starting the post but the job I am currently working will give me experience of 18 months and 5 days in that speciality at the time of start date.
How do I manage that?
You can either resign from your job early so you don't go over 18 months, or apply for ST3 level later if you can meet the requirements for that as you won't be eligible for this particular job if you complete more than the experience allowed
This is highly informative and precise.Thank you very much! Just wondering, one of the criteria listed for GP training is Eligibility to work in the UK.I am currently working overseas.Does this mean I need a visa before application ? What exactly does it mean?
No, you will be sponsored for a visa if you get a job. You can ignore this criterion as everyone meets it.
What about who are resitting msra
Someone resitting would also need to apply and submit CREST 2024 at the time of application
Is it valid to apply for an ST3/ST4 post if you are applying from another country? What if a consultant is registered with the GMC but without a license to practice at the moment; can they sign?
CREST is used for applications for training at ST1 / CT1 level. For ST3/ST4 you need a different form for alternative competences. If you search for the specialty you are interested in, you will find the relevant details in the person specification
If I am currently working under my signing consultant, what should my end date of supervising should be. The day it is getting signed or the day my post is expected to end?
The end of contract if that is before training starts, otherwise the day before training starts.
can you clarify what a consultant equivalent is ? and do I need the CREST signed from my current/recent job or can it be from previous job as long as it is in 3.5 years time frame?
That is listed on the CREST form. You can sign it from any job where you had at least 3 months full time equivalent continuously within the 3.5 years before the start of training.
Hello, hope you are well. Really love your content sir.
I have few doubts regarding the end date of my current post as I have to enter this in the training application as well as CREST form.
It mentioned in the application, to write the end date as the day before the training commences, but when I try to look for the training commencement date, it is not confirmed yet.
1) What would be wise to put in the application as the end date of my current post?
2) Should I do the same in my CREST form if I'm getting it signed in my current post? (or shall I just put UP TO DATE?)
3) Does the duration after the application closing time count towards the mandatory one year experience after FY1 to apply for training post? (Eligibility criteria)
I would be grateful if you could kindly answer my doubts.
Thank you so much.
1. Training for round 1 starts the first Wednesday in August, so the end date will be the first Tuesday in August.
2. Either option is fine
3. Yes, as you only need the required experience by the start date of training, not the time of application
@@EmedicaEducation Thank you so much🙏🏽
Thankyou sir for this informative video...just wanted to know if I get my CREST form signed right now and attempt for January exam, would I be needing a new crest form again for the September exam or the current signed form would still be accepted?
If the competences remain in date you can use the same CREST 2024 for the next round
Thank you sir, is it OK if the consultant doesn't have an official email and use a Gmail instead?
Yes, any email is fine
Thank you !! Just a quick question…I will finish 2 years postgraduate internship in Japan by March 2027. Am i eligible to apply for MSRA exam in November 2026 window? I will have finished my 2year internship by the time the post starts which is probably in August 2027, but will i be eligible to apply as i wont have finished internship by the time of application? Thank you so much! 😊
The eligibility to start training includes having at least 12 months clinical experience after full registration with your medical council - in most cases this means 1 year after completing internship. If you got full registration after 1 year of internship then you may be eligible if you get a CREST form signed. Please contact the recruitment team directly to check about your specific circumstances.
Thank you very much!
Hello. Will the same CREST 2024 Form be used for the october-november round ?
That won't be confirmed until nearer the time
1. In posts, should I add my whole employment history? Or should I only add the employment when the signing consultant supervised me??
2.If I have my crest dully signed, full GMC Registration but not the license to practice at the time of application, can I still apply for training job(st1)??
I will get it before start of training but will my application be accepted?
1. Only the employment when the signing consultant supervised you goes on CREST. Your full employment history goes in the Oriel application.
2. License is not needed at the time of application, only by the start of training
Do we have to digitally fill out the form or it can be handwritten? There is this column asking for the Applicant Name and in the bracket printed is mentioned.
Hi
Whats about if I am applying after core medical training but had a year gap between finishing programme and applying
Should this still require CREST as my foundation competences were checked before and ARCP confirmed that CMT competency achieved
Yes, if you are not in training at the time of application, and if none of the other options apply, you will need to submit CREST.
Im working in hematology field and currently on my Plab pathway.
Can i get the CREST form signed by my consultant.is it acceptable? Like hematology is included in clinical criteria or not?
If your consultant is in a non acute specialty like this, and they tick everything as personally witnessed they may query how some of the competences were achieved in this setting. If they have ticked evidence received for some competences and provided details of an appropriately qualified person for that, it will be fine.
If i work in a medical center where the most senior doctor is senior registrar, can he sign the crest form ? Plz answer
Only a consultant or equivalent can sign the CREST - the details are mentioned in the guidance on page 1 of the form
should the application be with drawled if CREST form is not submitted together?
Please contact the recruitment team. Usually if you withdraw your application you cannot apply in the same round to that specialty again.
Which registration certificate of the consultant should be attached sir? Please reply.
Registration with the relevant medical council / specialist register confirming current registration/ status as a consultant or equivalent
This is my 7th month in my job and i have No prior job experience. Can i still get the CREST signed and apply for CT directly?
You may be able to get the CREST signed, but are not eligible to apply for training as you need 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training to be eligible for CT1/ST1 training posts
If I had done the job in 2022 but signed by the consultant now, should I put the date of completion as current date or the date I did the job?
Date of completion is the date it is signed.
@@EmedicaEducation hello sir ..if the consultant has changed his place of work what should we do ? Get the hospital stamp of our original place of work or of his current hospital?
Either should be fine
Sir housejob experience isn't considered to sign of crest form?
Do i have to work 3 months paid under a consultant, after my housejob?
And lets say i dont get it signed in my home country then i can work under consultant in uk to get it signed off?
Thirdly after getting my crest form signed from home country, am i exempted from FY2 post? Means I can directly apply for non training job?
You can get your CREST form signed from your house job if you demonstrated the criteria. CREST is a requirement for applications for training at ST1 / CT1 level. It is not relevant/ required to apply for a non training post. CREST is only one requirement to apply for training. You still need to meet the other eligibility criteria, which may differ for each specialty. You need a minimum of 2 years clinical experience including internship to start training at ST1 / CT1 level. CREST does not exempt you from the experience required.
@@EmedicaEducation how about GP ship? Can I apply directly after getting crest form signed? (Let's say am not getting non training job and gave msra exam)
You can apply if you will have 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training/ meet all the eligibility criteria. Please read this article for details www.emedica.co.uk/applygp.html
I have crest form signed by my HOD where i worked from nov 2021-dec 2023. Now i am working in a different hospital which is govt . I have started it from 5th August . My recent consultant is willing to sign my Crest form .but it will be 3 months only by 5th of November. So should I use the one from previous consultant or should i wait till 5th November and get it signed. Because i am planning to apply for the post commencing on AUG 2025.
Either option is fine
Hello sir,
I have done my post in Jan 2023. And the consultant I have worked with then is signing my crest form. So can I mention the date of completion when he is signing it that is in 2024 or when my post was finished in 2023.
Please help me with this query
Date of completion is the date they sign the form
do you need a gmc number to get the crest form signed?
No, however you will need full GMC registration and 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training to be eligible
@@EmedicaEducation i dont understand how do people who have only given plab 1 sit for msra exam and have had there crest form signed?how do they show full gmc registration by the start date of training ?how does that work?
You don't need GMC registration to get CREST signed, or to apply, you need it by the start date of training which is several months after the time of application. Doctors that fail to get their full GMC registration in time will lose any job offer received
Will problems with filling a crest form prevent an applicant from being longlisted ??
Or such issues can be solved
If there are errors on the form, you will usually be given 72 hours to correct them. If you have not submitted a correct form by the end of the application window your application will be withdrawn and you will not be longlisted
What if application got submitted, but crest form is incomplete. Can we re- submit crest form again ??
If you submitted a CREST and it was incomplete or had errors, you will usually be given one chance to resubmit a corrected/ complete CREST.
can I use previous year signed CREST ?
If it is CREST 2024 and the competences are still in date you can use the same one
@@EmedicaEducation Thank you.
Sir ! If my CREST form is signed by pediatric consultant, can I apply for MSRA exam for GP training?
You can apply if you meet the other eligibility criteria: www.emedica.co.uk/applygp
You can apply for training if you meet the other eligibility criteria - CREST is only one part: www.emedica.co.uk/applygp
Will the form be accepted if the competency being checked lasts for one year, beginning 2020 but ended 2021?
Competences have to be demonstrated from a job within 3.5 years of the start date of training, so for August 2024, it would have to be after January 2021. You would also need at least 3 months full time equivalent continuously supervised by the same consultant after January 2021 for them to be eligible to sign the form
@@EmedicaEducationshould the joining date of the job be from January 2021 or the end date? When is 3.5 years calculated from? Joining date or end date?
The period the competences were signed from needs to be at least 3 months full time equivalent continuously within 3.5 years of the start date of training. You'd need 3+ months from February 2021 onwards for this round as jobs start August 2024.
Can someone with more than 2 years gap in clinical practice be eligible to write the MSRA exam?
Potentially, depending on If you are still able to get CREST signed from a job within 3.5 years of the start date of training and if you meet the eligibility criteria for the specialty you are applying for you can. Please read through the person specification for details
@@EmedicaEducation many thanks
Hello sir , post mbbs , I have 6 years of experience in general medicine, do I have to apply for ST1 ?
That depends on which specialty you are applying for. Everyone starts GP training at ST1 level. For some specialties you can directly enter higher training at ST3 or ST4 level if you have the right experience and competences signed off, but you wouldn't need a CREST for those as that is only for ST1 / CT1 training posts. Please go through the person specification and official recruitment site for the specialty you are interested in for details
Do We need CREST form for trust grade/ Nontraining jobs ?
No
@@EmedicaEducation Thank you for your response
Hello Dr Rahman, I have a doubt, Can an overseas graduate with one year of experience is eligible for CT/ST or gp training if they get thier CREST form signed ? Can a doctor with 1 year of experience get a CREST form signed ??
You can get a CREST signed if you meet all the competences, but would not be eligible for training as you need 2 years clinical experience by the start date of training to apply for ST1 / CT1 jobs. CREST is only 1 criterion - you need to meet all of them to be eligible. Details for GP training at www.emedica.co.uk/applygp
@@EmedicaEducation Thank you so much for clarifying
Can orthopedic doctor in India sign the CREST FORM
They can sign if they are a consultant
@@EmedicaEducation in India he is a consultant sir
With 15 years of experience and has completed Ms ortho ( 3 years pg training )
I just passed mrcog part 1 exam and i have 6 months working experience in obs and gynaee.. Am i Eligible for CREST for ST1
The minimum time to get CREST signed is 3 months full time equivalent with the same supervisor. It may take much longer to demonstrate all the criteria