New Balance 880 v12 Neutral Running Shoe Full Review

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  • @Pianoman1234321
    @Pianoman1234321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome, another early upload! Perfect as I'm getting ready for work 😄

  • @jes6266
    @jes6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    QD: My contribution is to give back to the running world by putting on a trail run race in my own community. I have been doing this with 4 other race organizers for 14 years now. What makes us unique is our race is free. So no matter where you are at in your social economic life you can come and participate in what I think is a pretty professionally organized looking race. Us runners we are about coming together to achieve many of the same things in life ( hard work, progress, confidence, growth etc..)and I hope my organizers and I play a small part in helping attain their achievements.
    Thanks Seth…great question.

  • @michaelpalm2210
    @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess the word is out on the 880V12 having Fresh Foam X and Fuelcell sandwich! I've beeb reading reviews since I just bought 2 pairs of them. Here is what reviewers are saying"The big change in the 880v12 is it now has a strip of New Balance Fuel Cell foam under the Fresh Foam through the midfoot and into the forefoot. Fuel Cell is the foam that New Balance use in their shoes designed for fast sessions and shorter races. It is firmer, more responsive and has more energy return than Fresh Foam. What this does to the ride of the 880v12 is give it a pillow like softness at the heel followed by a nice push at toe off. A really good combination."

  • @CAIrondad
    @CAIrondad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    QD: I volunteer on Fridays at Mary’s Home, a facility for single moms who are homeless and need a fresh start. It’s a great ministry!

  • @JJRunningOnGrace
    @JJRunningOnGrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Since I have rectangular feet (size 11 4e) my choice for shoes is limited. The 880s are definitely my favourite of all the wide fit shoes I have had over the years.

    • @mdsmith1019
      @mdsmith1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel your pain! I'm a 10 4E and it tempting to buy any shoe that isn't black or gray, even if I'm not in love with it! But I'm hoping the Cumulus 24 turns out well because that's the next shoe I'm planning to purchase.
      I'd be curious to know what shoes have worked for you since we're in the same boat.

    • @JJRunningOnGrace
      @JJRunningOnGrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdsmith1019 I ran the Asics Nimbus 18/19/20 for a couple of years. Although they were super comfortable I felt like they were the source of many of the injuries I was getting.
      I started running 7 years ago in NB 680s, then 880s, then 1080s (which I did not care for at all). I switched to the Asics for a couple of years. Went back to NB trying out the 860s which were okay but now I'm back to the 880s.
      As far as trail shoes go, Salomon speedcross, xa pro 3d, hoka speedgoat 4, and now the Saucony Perigrene 12s. Xa Pros fit well but they are heavy. I really only were them on technical trails. The speedgoat 4 is a decent shoe but they aren't wide enough so the sides are starting to split at the toe box. So far, the Sauconys seem almost perfect. A whole lot of trial and error (which unfortunately can get expensive) and I agree, it's extremely difficult to pass on something that isn't black or gray!

    • @hum-dinger2453
      @hum-dinger2453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdsmith1019 Have you snagged the Cumulus 24s yet?? Thoughts??

    • @Zmac87
      @Zmac87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same block foot problem lol these are my favorites after trying so many shoes. 10 4e

  • @BeccaAndii
    @BeccaAndii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've 750km in my 880 V11s. They're the old reliables. I walked into the shop and said I wanted a boring, reliable everyday trainer I could run 1000km into. They're delivering. That outsole rubber is ideal for wet weather running, which is our standard. We've gotta have some shoes Seth! Can't take all our rubber away 😉 You're bang on about the upper though. It scrunches something awful.

    • @percrunner1433
      @percrunner1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 880 is always one of the best shoes of the year. Durable and delivers every year

    • @tenzingd9627
      @tenzingd9627 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've have run 1600+ km on my 880v11 since my parents won't buy me a new one. But now they're getting me the 880v12

  • @mastertiastella
    @mastertiastella 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best daily trainer id 2022…good job NB!

  • @donbracci2199
    @donbracci2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many times our perception of our world is our reality. I try to learn to accept what I have been given to work with in life. More importantly, I find a way to make what I have been given work for me and my family. Not only does this help make my world better, but also improves my perception of things. I also feel like this approach is contagious and has a positive impact on others. This positive impact on others is probably what actually makes the world, and other people's perception of it, better.

  • @timlaporte5231
    @timlaporte5231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SETH, YOU ARE MY FAVORITE TH-camR! Say, could you toss in the Saucony Ride 15 in your comparison battle?

  • @michaelpalm2210
    @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just scored a pair of these on sale at Zappos on sale for $54.00.....my new daily trainers! Love them

  • @OnlySourSauce
    @OnlySourSauce ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are now going for $89 or even lower, just got some on sale at REI for 69 (nice). Can't wait to take them out for a break-in run!

    • @TheMrSacred
      @TheMrSacred ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually just bought a pair for around the $85 on DSG clearance. Good shoe first impressions just walking around

    • @OnlySourSauce
      @OnlySourSauce ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheMrSacred they feel great on the run after coming from a lower tier Asics. Got a 7miler event coming up so I'll see how these feel during my training and for the event

  • @dailyrunningco
    @dailyrunningco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do it Seth!! Put those, 880 vs Gel-Cumulus into the ring! Will be excited and very interesting

  • @Eva.S.
    @Eva.S. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some more information about sizing would be great, is the toe box narrow or wide, is the length true to size? Especially for us online shoppers, it might help reduce returns due to wrong sizing… Really appreciate your reviews!! 🙏

  • @nebojsakolaric2879
    @nebojsakolaric2879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    QD: Once a month, I donate money (not to much I'm still a student) to childred who have serious illnesess and need medical operations outside my country which cost a lot of money . Life isn't always fair, but for some people it's hell from the day they are born 😢. If my donation can help one childred I will be more then happy.

  • @runningonplantsleerp2121
    @runningonplantsleerp2121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    QD:
    I’m always have a positive mindset and I’m always telling people how good they are.
    I’m always smiling at people and been nice.
    Plus I don’t eat animals so I’m not involved in animal cruelty,I’m guessing that’s why I’m always positive and nice.
    I don’t feel Guilt

  • @geoffb2900
    @geoffb2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about a 4-way shoe battle? Asics Cumulus 24, Brooks Ghost 14, New Balance 880 v12, and Saucony Ride 15!

  • @ajmartinez1906
    @ajmartinez1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayeeeooo! Glad to see you’re back home. Stay Safe up there and big shot out to

  • @fluorophoremusic3679
    @fluorophoremusic3679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got a pair of these for $85 after about 500 miles on my 1080v12...hoping these will work about as well, because the price is much much better.

    • @gaston7484
      @gaston7484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hows it holding up so far? Thinking of picking these up too for $85. Thanks

  • @jjchang9874
    @jjchang9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    NB 880 lineup by far the most well built shoe I ever tested! Unfortunately V9 is the last iteration I tried bc I just want to try all the daily trainer in the market, it's on the heavy side but men I can say its smooth and flexible. They grow on me bc I prefer nimble than softness.

    • @JeremyBenfield
      @JeremyBenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a fan of NB. I've been running in them since the 880v5. Just got the 880v12 to replace my 1080!

    • @jjchang9874
      @jjchang9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JeremyBenfield I'd never try 1080 but based on the review I still prefer 880 bc of the midsole density.

    • @JeremyBenfield
      @JeremyBenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jjchang9874 That's pretty much why I'm going back to the 880. I think the 1080 is too cushy (and pricey).

    • @jjchang9874
      @jjchang9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeremyBenfield agree 💯

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeremyBenfield yes I always feel unstable wearing max cushion shoes. I bet I could roll my ankles pretty bad so I stay away from them but I have the 880V11 and they work for me so far

  • @junriepuyos7510
    @junriepuyos7510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey, Seth do a shoe battle between 1080 v12 vs fresh foam more v3.

    • @gosekinz
      @gosekinz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      snap! and throw this 880 in there for good measure

  • @willwilling4728
    @willwilling4728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Comment of the day! Never thought that would happen. I wish I could take credit for the idea but it came from Eddbud. Thought I'd better disclose the facts.
    Thanks

  • @janetduback5161
    @janetduback5161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at work in the bakery I like to chat with my elderly customers and give them some extra attention. Some live by themselves and visiting with them or getting them hot coffee hopefully makes going to the bakery an outing.

  • @mdsmith1019
    @mdsmith1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always. I'd definitely love to see a comparison with the Cumulus 24!

  • @Melvin-belvin
    @Melvin-belvin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve seen several reports that NB claims that the forefoot foam is actually FUELCELL. Funny that they don’t advertise that on their site.

    • @DR.DisInfect
      @DR.DisInfect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Has this been confirmed yet

  • @annestrock4917
    @annestrock4917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this review. Almost to 500 miles on my 2nd pair of 880 vs 10. My real question is - can you really do back flips???

  • @theunknown21329
    @theunknown21329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since the v13s were released recently, got these for $60. Still can't believe it lol

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me too stock up on them if you can

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The V14's are out now so I can score some v13's for cheap now! Joes NB outlet has them for $99.99

  • @jamie2300
    @jamie2300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting shoe tying technique @ 02:05

  • @natebillings2682
    @natebillings2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My hometown! I run these streets daily!

  • @jamie2300
    @jamie2300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When's the Tempo v2 review Seth?

  • @AWolfMan75
    @AWolfMan75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    880's have traditionally run short. So, go up a half size like the v11? Is the toe box the same or more round?

  • @laganjr.9076
    @laganjr.9076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi... James may you recomend to me the best shoes for all training...??? Not special for one side but nice and helpfull for everything... 🙏

  • @bintanggemintang9650
    @bintanggemintang9650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New balance ia the best

  • @Deadbuck73
    @Deadbuck73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fourth! SJD getting us up early!

  • @H-When
    @H-When ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love for them to bring back the beacon model

  • @TheOnlyIncognito
    @TheOnlyIncognito ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long can I run in these if I want to do general runs not marathons

  • @Urbanrx
    @Urbanrx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seth i serve my community. I coach girls softball team at daughters school and serve my church.

  • @CriticalThinker02
    @CriticalThinker02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would any of you distance runners run a half marathon in this shoe? Or too heavy?

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen guys wearing these running the Boston Marathon.....not the elite runners of course,just your average joe😁

    • @CriticalThinker02
      @CriticalThinker02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelpalm2210 Hah really? Another random question, but can anyone run marathons like that or do you have to somehow qualify for it? I thought there was some prerequisite for being able to register for a race like that, no?

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you have to run qualifier marathons a year or two before and apply to run Boston. @@CriticalThinker02

  • @craigpilcher
    @craigpilcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you go with this or the squcony ride 15?

  • @DJLOUIE1000
    @DJLOUIE1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are these any better than the v11? 11s look better to me.

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว

      The big change in the 880v12 is it now has a strip of New Balance Fuel Cell foam under the Fresh Foam through the midfoot and into the forefoot. Fuel Cell is the foam that New Balance use in their shoes designed for fast sessions and shorter races. It is firmer, more responsive and has more energy return than Fresh Foam. What this does to the ride of the 880v12 is give it a pillow like softness at the heel followed by a nice push at toe off. A really good combination.

  • @MrMusick
    @MrMusick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    QD: I'm a teacher. I have a TH-cam channel where I have videos that go over math homework and test prep.

  • @JJRunningOnGrace
    @JJRunningOnGrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Q.O.D: Smile. Laugh. Listen.

  • @gosekinz
    @gosekinz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Compare it to the 1080 v12 instead ..

    • @JeremyBenfield
      @JeremyBenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just got the 880v12 to replace my 1080's. I'd imagine it would be somewhat similar. The 1080's have more cushion but not enough to justify the additional money 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @namits3775
    @namits3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still using the Novablast...

  • @comodice905
    @comodice905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zo what did u think of the shoe

  • @shakebake2680
    @shakebake2680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome review!! Are the 880’s in the video Navy Blue or Black please? It’s hard to tell. Thank you.

  • @oceaniccurrents
    @oceaniccurrents 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    QD: I go to the park everyday with my 1 year old son and I pick up all the trash. Be the change. Don’t talk about it be about it 💪🏻

    • @JorgeMartinez-qm2tc
      @JorgeMartinez-qm2tc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is what I talking about it...saludos

    • @nghtrunnr7378
      @nghtrunnr7378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what does "qd:" mean

    • @oceaniccurrents
      @oceaniccurrents 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nghtrunnr7378 question of the day

    • @comodice905
      @comodice905 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does that have to du with shoe review

    • @oceaniccurrents
      @oceaniccurrents ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comodice905 watch the video then write your comments, it’s the QD

  • @jakarvishouston1429
    @jakarvishouston1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes a battle please

  • @holakjus
    @holakjus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Seth, I had the 880’s and they broke down pretty quick. Basically, over time from my toe hitting the upper when I ran, it eventually made a hole I could stick my finger through. I was pretty disappointed in the shoe plus the upper was coming undone from the foam. I like the ride, but New Balance don’t last that long

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you must run funny or have flintstone toes

    • @holakjus
      @holakjus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelpalm2210 no bruh, its just overtime repetitive wear from my feet shifting in the shoe.

  • @JimLarranaga5k
    @JimLarranaga5k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Making the world a better place: Sometimes on a run I pickup trash and drop it in a nearby trash bin.

  • @holythursday1583
    @holythursday1583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    QD: the best thing you can do to make the world a better place is to raise your children in such a way that the new generations wont make the same mistakes as us

  • @michaellopour7409
    @michaellopour7409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn’t Axon $100 not $140?

  • @toxakabz3653
    @toxakabz3653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    880v12🔥🔥🔥

    • @JeremyBenfield
      @JeremyBenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love mine!

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have 4 pairs of these now. In the rotation for years to come. Love em!

  • @dominikschrott7412
    @dominikschrott7412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice... but where's the 890?

    • @JeremyBenfield
      @JeremyBenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      NB has been slooooowly releasing their shoes 😒 ugh

  • @Carlomagnus333
    @Carlomagnus333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So v12 or V11?

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      V11 has lower amount of fresh foam and just fresh foam. . V12 has freshfoam& Fuelcell.
      If you like more road feel ,go V11, for a more cushioned ride V12

  • @michaelpalm2210
    @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7.63 score...nah 😁8/10

  • @lorenzohuynh1550
    @lorenzohuynh1550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yak yak & yak
    Never did mention the most important about how it fit, does it fit true to size ? how wide it is ? Does one’s need to buy bigger or stay true to size/ width???
    Wasted of my time watching this video before trying to buy this shoes online on NB website.
    Again a lot of blah blah blah, all important was left out !!!!

    • @JeremyBenfield
      @JeremyBenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good points! I'll be sure to cover that when I review it. I just got my 880v12.

  • @myrmidones6588
    @myrmidones6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    REEBOK FLOATRIDE ENERGY X please review!!!!

  • @slickwitdakicks5758
    @slickwitdakicks5758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    QD: I Throw All My Worn Out Running and Casual Shoes In A Large Trash Bag and Drop Them By The Homeless Encampment in My City For Those Who Need Them More Than Me,, Stay Fresh 👟🔥💪

  • @mehmetakinma
    @mehmetakinma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much does it cost. Rich people can afford it.

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NB and Zappos have the V12 on sale this week for $104.95. Thats a deal!

  • @AGC828
    @AGC828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    880 v12 VS Pegasus 39 :) Same price range. Both trainer shoes or expensive lifestyle shoes. Good thing NB offers 4 colour ways fro this shoe. Bu priced only $20 from the 1080 v12 ummmm....makes it a tougher call. NB priced them too close. Don't know if the 1080 has $20 more "better" :)
    Maybe you should compare this shoe to the 1080 v12 first....and answer the questin "Why would any one pay $20 (CDN) more for the 1080 v12?"...

    • @hum-dinger2453
      @hum-dinger2453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea, would love to see a 880V12 vs 1080v12 comparison

  • @jds6000
    @jds6000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7.73/10? That score is laughable. Easily 9/10.

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. Especially when you consider it's a dual layer midsole with FreshFoamX and Fuelcell, and all for $104.95 now on sale at Zappos and NB website. That score has to go up up up !😁

  • @OttoVogrincic
    @OttoVogrincic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QD: I try to equip my kids with great tools and guide them to be the best possible version of themselves to become outstanding members of the human race.

  • @FromTheSouthmark
    @FromTheSouthmark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful shoe 😍

  • @comodice905
    @comodice905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it a top notch shoe 👞 👟 🤔 👀 😳 👌 👞 👟 🤔 👀 or run of the mill 🤔 😳 🤣 😄????????????

  • @mikezeigler1503
    @mikezeigler1503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I treat people how they should be treated.

  • @T_Mac11
    @T_Mac11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QD: Smile :)

  • @rohannairn4403
    @rohannairn4403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First

  • @tmoney3198
    @tmoney3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an immigration attorney, I give individuals peace of mind and certainty about their future 😃

  • @wk633
    @wk633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QD I wear a mask when inside around other people.

  • @TheCfireball93
    @TheCfireball93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bad news that the 880 and 860 are only on running stores and on new balance store.

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not all true...Dicks sporting goods, some wholesale shoe stores like famous footweat, off broadway shoes, marshalls will have them sometimes. New Balance stores are nationwide at the outlet malls

  • @Joakimfrank
    @Joakimfrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QD: Im sticking to a vegan diet, which saves both lives and the climate!

    • @Micke12312
      @Micke12312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ffs

    • @Joakimfrank
      @Joakimfrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Micke12312 You disagree? Then state that. I don't get your little passive aggressive outburst.

  • @manuelaranas3973
    @manuelaranas3973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of talking.

  • @therunningdad01
    @therunningdad01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know it is not huge, but I always hold the door open for people. Not just women, I do it for anybody. I just hope it makes their day a little bit better.

    • @Carlos72797
      @Carlos72797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree with them but many view holding a door for a woman as asserting your male privilege.

    • @therunningdad01
      @therunningdad01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Carlos72797 I do it for males as well so they can be mistaken all they want.

    • @runningmama4793
      @runningmama4793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@therunningdad01 I love it when anyone holds the door open for me, but in this day and age, it actually seems quite brave for a man to dare to do that, so I always try to express my appreciation with a thank you and a smile. Not everyone in the world has gone crazy : )

  • @policeluber6720
    @policeluber6720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fresh foam is.eva foam not spoiled

  • @policeluber6720
    @policeluber6720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy thinks the outside tells u what's inside lol

  • @policeluber6720
    @policeluber6720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eva is so old not new tech

  • @ajmartinez1906
    @ajmartinez1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    : My 25+ years of service in the military. I’m grateful to have been places( Amsterdam) during my time in the uniform and with no regrets.

    • @1519Spring
      @1519Spring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also had the chance to briefly visit Amsterdam and Rotterdam while serving in an American military uniform. Good times.

    • @ajmartinez1906
      @ajmartinez1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1519Spring I thank you for your Service

    • @greggg4781
      @greggg4781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your service. I appreciate it!

  • @policeluber6720
    @policeluber6720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To review any shoe with Eva u belong in the 1970's

    • @theunknown21329
      @theunknown21329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Old doesn't mean bad though. These are very durable.

  • @petermuller6903
    @petermuller6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just try to be the change I want to see in the word. Mahatma Gandhi said that. GREETINGS FROM SALZBURG/AUSTRIA!!!