@@kalikaiz So there weren't as many people as there usually are (probably due to Halloween stuff) so there were only 3 rounds instead of 4 and I got a buy for the last round. First round was against affinity with both losses being very close. I probably would have won game 2 if I just ran it back and didn't try to be cute with the sideboarding. Game 2 was against Izzet Terror and that felt really bad especially after my opponent sideboarded in Breath Weapon. Getting my card draw countered didn't help either.
love this deck! i still think its missing a little something something but it will become a legit nasty deck at some point in the near future for sure!
@@kalikaiz For the instance of weather the storm giving too much life I would also think about sprout swarm. Either in the sideboard or in the main. Then to counter Trespasser's curse you could sideboard ray of revelation. All in all I am even thinking about Prismatic strands in the side for even more Naya colored interaction that counteracts Krak Clan and breath weapon. i know at this point it sounds like a bit too much but at least 2 of these cards could be considered.
If this list plays basic lands anyway, one vines could probably be just a Whiteout. It would still give you 4-5 cards to discard. This would save some mana, at the cost of not thinning the deck.
I just discovered the synergy between snake umbra and pingers like guttersnipe. Wouldnt that be a sick fit? If it resolves on the guttersnipe its combo time for sure 😎
Looks pretty sweet! Vine storm is a fine replacement for prophet for controlling denisity. I still think faithless looting would be great here with all the lands you have and as a good discard target itself, if you're looking to add more card draw. It's been pretty sweet in my build, although the builds are doing diffferent things.
@kalikaiz not better than rev imo, it's a good discard target and glimpse mill. It also woud work really well with vine, but it'd only be a 1 or 2 of. The pretty full art borderless is only 2 tix and change now, probably a good speculative investment.
@@kalikaiz You had me thinking that vines spiked in price lol. I meant for tix, like I bought 10x of the unfinity island when it came out for less than a tick and then sold when it hit 5 tx.
I remember the old Sprouting Vines lists used to play Tolarian Winds to cash in all those lands for spells, do you think that's something this list could utilize? The lands being discard fodder for the draw spells is sweet tho. Love the list.
That game one last rites was insane. Got me completely re thinking the card. I can’t think of another combo that can take advantage of that situation as well but my minds racing. The plan was so hardcore, set up infinitely big guy, set the opponent to top decking, swing. Like, the out to this set up properly performed is top deck cast down and you can just also have protection in the list. Gonna go build a bad list real quick…
@ yeah I was just s posting on the mana bade for sure but garden is a beautiful call with all the edicts. Probably shambling ghast too somewhere in the list.
I was still on the depletion land build. This has inspired me to update a little. I definitely like 3 vines, kind of wanna try 3 guttersnipes. What do you think about a third pillage, or revelation in that 4th Gsnipe slot?
@@giancarloaulicino1017 I haven't but I think if I've gotten that far I am probably already winning. I put a duress sideboard so maybe that could be rites
@@wetdog3148 the prophet version is easily the best IF you draw prophet. If you don't, it's very mid. So you're trading the top end speed here for a much more well rounded and still very powerful deck
I found that there weren't enough slots to support Mana and card draw. Once you start moving, the draw spells become rituals. I tried just rite of flame and it was faster at getting going but a lot worse during the combo turn at keeping going. At that point I decided to go for song here
@@enricomuscolo3829 it could maybe fit, I hadn't tried that. The problem is when you exile it to reckless impulse you'll be kinda screwed. Worth trying! I think I would do something like +1 forest +3 rituals. Maybe go to 4 rite of flame 3 song
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Aw yes. Playing this deck tonight at Thursday Night Pauper!
@@ValerieEnriquez let's goooo
I’m not sure if I like the vines version over the depletion land version but this deck is bonkers good and crazy fun to pilot!
@HarborMastr it's hard to say yeah, but it's got a lot of play!
@@kalikaiz So there weren't as many people as there usually are (probably due to Halloween stuff) so there were only 3 rounds instead of 4 and I got a buy for the last round. First round was against affinity with both losses being very close. I probably would have won game 2 if I just ran it back and didn't try to be cute with the sideboarding. Game 2 was against Izzet Terror and that felt really bad especially after my opponent sideboarded in Breath Weapon. Getting my card draw countered didn't help either.
@ValerieEnriquez dang! The blue control decks are very very tough
love this deck! i still think its missing a little something something but it will become a legit nasty deck at some point in the near future for sure!
@@BalldoTM thanks! it's tough to say what the best card would be for it. Maybe just actual factual Ruby medallion haha
@@kalikaiz For the instance of weather the storm giving too much life I would also think about sprout swarm. Either in the sideboard or in the main. Then to counter Trespasser's curse you could sideboard ray of revelation. All in all I am even thinking about Prismatic strands in the side for even more Naya colored interaction that counteracts Krak Clan and breath weapon. i know at this point it sounds like a bit too much but at least 2 of these cards could be considered.
@Justadeathgod I'm not sure where you're going with these cards but I can see the rabbit hole
I play this deck. So fun!! thank you.
@@box13010 that's awesome to hear!
If this list plays basic lands anyway, one vines could probably be just a Whiteout. It would still give you 4-5 cards to discard. This would save some mana, at the cost of not thinning the deck.
@@hendrikd2113 that's kinda neat! That didn't occur to me. Then on the combo turn you can sac all your lands and loop even more lol
I just discovered the synergy between snake umbra and pingers like guttersnipe. Wouldnt that be a sick fit? If it resolves on the guttersnipe its combo time for sure 😎
@@hanze-b5y I love trying to make that work but it always is too fragile 😭😭
Looks pretty sweet! Vine storm is a fine replacement for prophet for controlling denisity. I still think faithless looting would be great here with all the lands you have and as a good discard target itself, if you're looking to add more card draw. It's been pretty sweet in my build, although the builds are doing diffferent things.
@@CosmicCharles466 yeah looting could be alright for sure. Maybe better than revelation idk
@kalikaiz not better than rev imo, it's a good discard target and glimpse mill. It also woud work really well with vine, but it'd only be a 1 or 2 of. The pretty full art borderless is only 2 tix and change now, probably a good speculative investment.
@CosmicCharles466 haha I should have speccd on vines
@@kalikaiz You had me thinking that vines spiked in price lol. I meant for tix, like I bought 10x of the unfinity island when it came out for less than a tick and then sold when it hit 5 tx.
@CosmicCharles466 yeah I figured maybe I would spike vines from my video haha
I remember the old Sprouting Vines lists used to play Tolarian Winds to cash in all those lands for spells, do you think that's something this list could utilize? The lands being discard fodder for the draw spells is sweet tho. Love the list.
@@jamisonphethean3128 I tried putting the vines and winds tech into a shell and I just couldn't make it work
That game one last rites was insane. Got me completely re thinking the card. I can’t think of another combo that can take advantage of that situation as well but my minds racing. The plan was so hardcore, set up infinitely big guy, set the opponent to top decking, swing. Like, the out to this set up properly performed is top deck cast down and you can just also have protection in the list. Gonna go build a bad list real quick…
The bad list
Gleefully
20 meat
4x basking broodscale
4x malevolent rumble
4x sadistic glee
4x vines of the vastwood
4x last rites
20 propane
4x deadly dispute
4x reckoners bargain
4x eviscerators insight
4x ichor wellspring
4x chromatic star
20 propane accessories
10x forest
10x swamp
@@devangoad but the game 2 last rites though hah
@@devangoad it would probably steal some games. You need fetches in the Mana base and some khalni gardens
@ I honestly think they have the right idea and the wrong list lol
@ yeah I was just s posting on the mana bade for sure but garden is a beautiful call with all the edicts. Probably shambling ghast too somewhere in the list.
Rites of initation could be interesting with sprouting vines
@@DelverMancer33 yeah that's quite a combo too
I was still on the depletion land build. This has inspired me to update a little. I definitely like 3 vines, kind of wanna try 3 guttersnipes. What do you think about a third pillage, or revelation in that 4th Gsnipe slot?
@@addicted2SODA1 I think that going to 3 is cool. I would be looking at a land, a reckless, or a pillage to fill the slot :)
@@kalikaiz awesome, I'll try it out. Is the sideboard land just for long games?
@addicted2SODA1 usually when you're looking to play pyroblast or play a slow game I am swapping a land for a petal yeah
Have you tried using last rites to discard your lands to discard opponent’s entire hand?
@@giancarloaulicino1017 I haven't but I think if I've gotten that far I am probably already winning. I put a duress sideboard so maybe that could be rites
Do you feel like this version is significantly better than the burning prophet version?
@@wetdog3148 the prophet version is easily the best IF you draw prophet. If you don't, it's very mid. So you're trading the top end speed here for a much more well rounded and still very powerful deck
What's the reason rite of flame was taken out of this deck?
I found that there weren't enough slots to support Mana and card draw. Once you start moving, the draw spells become rituals. I tried just rite of flame and it was faster at getting going but a lot worse during the combo turn at keeping going. At that point I decided to go for song here
Would campfire be better than feldons can since it’s more proactive while still performing the same role?
@@devangoad it could be ok but you do have to worry about spending the Mana sometimes. In this list it is maybe completely worth it
Hi kaiz, playing this deck on a budget i cant afford lotus petals, do you think simian spirite guide could fit?
@@enricomuscolo3829 it could maybe fit, I hadn't tried that. The problem is when you exile it to reckless impulse you'll be kinda screwed. Worth trying!
I think I would do something like +1 forest +3 rituals. Maybe go to 4 rite of flame 3 song
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@@felipemendes8094 that would be kinda crazy
@@felipemendes8094 that would be kinda crazy
gorgeous ^_^
@@sergiosanchezruiz4567 thanks!