Frrr they block practically 0 features behind a paywall and a “full” version is super cheap. Didn’t even feel like I needed it but I wanted to support a plug-in I fuck with heavy
@@ashayVosher Yeah it has a lot that vital does not while vital has some things surge does not as well but not as much. Tons of LFOs and mod sources in surge, a large variety of oscillator types, including wave table, physical modeling and more, it's got ring mod, it's got A TON of effects available built in available in parallel or insert configuration. And the effects can be used on any sounds since the synth also comes with a separate effects plug in in order to use the effects on other sounds. It has a total of 6 available oscillators, separated into two different "layers" and each layer has its own filters, envelopes, LFOs and effects available. I HIGHLY recommend getting it, it is truly my go to synth for complicated sounds. It is my favorite synth, free or paid, and its free and open source so that's really cool to. Idk why it does not quite seem to get the same love as vital, probably because vital is arguably much more aesthetic.
To upgrade to twin 3 it cost me £19 but I do have a student account. It's a nice upgrade that has made it a much more usable synth, twin 2 was lacking features
i think it's cool that they tried to find a solution to synthesis that excludes wavetables, because there are enough great wavetable synths out there already. but the synth barely offers any alternative feature that justifies it. i'm not very thrilled. it does sound good though
Wow that Deep House is pretty great! Oh, btw, for the other two people on this planet (besides me), FabFilter Twin 3 is also coming to iPad soon. Same quality, same interface. ❤
It's pretty and nice to see a full EQ on it's engine. But other "standard" synths have so meany advanced features, even free ones, that this synth is not impressive in any way
i feel like pigments would be better for this, you get the analog modeled stuff if you want and other stuff if you want. also if they wanna keep it feeling analog and different, fm would be nice, could have va waveshaping oscillators, basically a wavetable without stepping between waveforms, less powerful but it’s smooth and stuff like pwm sounds more correct, i’ve made some that morph between tri and saw, saw and sqr (well actually sharkfin, or like a highpassed square), and more, all in a much cooler way than blending waveforms either directly or thru fft, i don’t have an easy way to use any of them directly (reaktor is not the best ux for this) so i remake them as line source wavetables in vital
also if someone at fabfilter is reading this, hire me and i’ll make tons of cool va waveshapers for you, you’ll be able to say it’s innovative and not be exaggerating cos basically nobody does this except pwm (and i bet sometimes that’s done as a wavetable). also wavetables don’t really work well with more than one control over the tone (except external stuff) but waveshapers do, i’ve made some with 4 or 5 controls, and any of them could have audio go in.
1:18 that was my initial reaction when I first heard that Twin 3 is out. I was like 'Omg. With that kinda interface againnn? Noooo!' Luckily, it looks way better than I thought. Haha. Not planning to buy it. Would rather wait for Sandbox to come out again. LOLOLOL.
I love FabFilter, but I think focusing more on the filter and emulating the drive is more important. Oscillators are secondary, even tertiary to a good filter model. Not a fan of the UI, if you're moving from an actual hardware synth, the interface is really vague. That's just me though. Edit for spelling
I own too many softsynths including phaseplant but when ever I just need basic waveforms with a snit ton of features I always go to surgext. If I was stranded on an island and there was only one softsynth I could take with me it would be surge
Kind of a poor choice imo. UVI Falcon has infinite possible wavetables with infinite layers per patch and any type of synthesis you can dream of. There’s a reason why professional sound designers/sampling engineers use Falcon almost exclusively. If you buy the expansions it has more presets than Omnisphere and Komplete 14 standard. Literally the only limit is CPU and your imagination. Also why not Pigments or Zebra 2? I’d argue they both have as many features as surge and more genre-versatile shaping options in regard to basic waveforms.
@@LunaRealized cool, I never used Falcon. I feel I heard of it a few times but never gave it much thought. I'll look it up, thanks for the tip👍 Edit: I do own pigments I just bought it a week ago, still getting use to the filter and fx routing.
Pigments 4 kills this and the upgrades have been free - and it's usually on sale for $99, same with PhasePlant. I feel Pigments does a better job at less harm on CPU resources than the rest however.
It literally sounds like it's between Diva and Serum. I find the analog modelling way too thick sounding, everything just sounds too smooth, probably due to the over-sampling. It just doesn't have that bright buzz that you can get from Diva and Serum. Not worth £130 at all. UI has loads of annoying tiny circle areas that are hard to click. Other soft synths add a little tag, so you can move the outer ring of a two ring circle knob. Not being able to click back to zero with a double click is a nightmare. The oscillator section is all really dark, the knobs are too thin, it's all really busy and hurts my eyes. Should have learned from Diva. They have some updating to do for this to compete.
the only thing i like about this synth is its EQ as freq/resonance control. some very lackluster presets....i guess we're supposed to be excited about the possibility of buying...hey say what? new expansion packs.
I am not impressed by Twin 2 (edit: and also twin 3)....at all Where are all the NEW stuff We need more revolutionized ideas, not more analogue-modelled witchcraft I like Phase Plant and Falcon for precisely that reason, I love analogue synth like anybody else but why not analogue + more digital custom functionality I'm absolutely amazed at how Vital was made with the best wavetable editor out there, intention to do better will win 100% against someone who follows the path that is already there
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Absolutely, one of my Favorite while being free, though for more complex things i use Phase Plant
Frrr they block practically 0 features behind a paywall and a “full” version is super cheap. Didn’t even feel like I needed it but I wanted to support a plug-in I fuck with heavy
Nah, I think Surge is the GOAT for sure, Vital is dope though
@@maxricemusic are there features surge has that vital doesn’t? I really need to check it out
@@ashayVosher Yeah it has a lot that vital does not while vital has some things surge does not as well but not as much. Tons of LFOs and mod sources in surge, a large variety of oscillator types, including wave table, physical modeling and more, it's got ring mod, it's got A TON of effects available built in available in parallel or insert configuration. And the effects can be used on any sounds since the synth also comes with a separate effects plug in in order to use the effects on other sounds. It has a total of 6 available oscillators, separated into two different "layers" and each layer has its own filters, envelopes, LFOs and effects available.
I HIGHLY recommend getting it, it is truly my go to synth for complicated sounds. It is my favorite synth, free or paid, and its free and open source so that's really cool to. Idk why it does not quite seem to get the same love as vital, probably because vital is arguably much more aesthetic.
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I own Phaseplant, Pigments, Serum, and Omnisphere. I don't feel like Twin 3 would bring anything new to the table.
To upgrade to twin 3 it cost me £19 but I do have a student account. It's a nice upgrade that has made it a much more usable synth, twin 2 was lacking features
i think it's cool that they tried to find a solution to synthesis that excludes wavetables, because there are enough great wavetable synths out there already. but the synth barely offers any alternative feature that justifies it. i'm not very thrilled. it does sound good though
visa thats like retro inow
Wow that Deep House is pretty great! Oh, btw, for the other two people on this planet (besides me), FabFilter Twin 3 is also coming to iPad soon. Same quality, same interface. ❤
hell yeah. I am one of those two people
It's pretty and nice to see a full EQ on it's engine. But other "standard" synths have so meany advanced features, even free ones, that this synth is not impressive in any way
Nice vid, similar feelings. I love Fabfilter, but they missed me on this one. I'm glad I spent my money more Minifreak V instead.
I used the original Fabfilter Twin a lot, until I got more hardware. I might look into this.
maybe they're waiting for twin 4 to add wavetables so that they can rake in the $$$
i feel like pigments would be better for this, you get the analog modeled stuff if you want and other stuff if you want. also if they wanna keep it feeling analog and different, fm would be nice, could have va waveshaping oscillators, basically a wavetable without stepping between waveforms, less powerful but it’s smooth and stuff like pwm sounds more correct, i’ve made some that morph between tri and saw, saw and sqr (well actually sharkfin, or like a highpassed square), and more, all in a much cooler way than blending waveforms either directly or thru fft, i don’t have an easy way to use any of them directly (reaktor is not the best ux for this) so i remake them as line source wavetables in vital
also if someone at fabfilter is reading this, hire me and i’ll make tons of cool va waveshapers for you, you’ll be able to say it’s innovative and not be exaggerating cos basically nobody does this except pwm (and i bet sometimes that’s done as a wavetable). also wavetables don’t really work well with more than one control over the tone (except external stuff) but waveshapers do, i’ve made some with 4 or 5 controls, and any of them could have audio go in.
serum has a solid amount of waveshapping options
@@SomeOne-pd6vm iirc most of its are shaping the phase lookup in the wavetable, not shaping the output
1:18 that was my initial reaction when I first heard that Twin 3 is out.
I was like 'Omg. With that kinda interface againnn? Noooo!'
Luckily, it looks way better than I thought. Haha.
Not planning to buy it. Would rather wait for Sandbox to come out again. LOLOLOL.
I love FabFilter, but I think focusing more on the filter and emulating the drive is more important. Oscillators are secondary, even tertiary to a good filter model. Not a fan of the UI, if you're moving from an actual hardware synth, the interface is really vague. That's just me though. Edit for spelling
your name is also vague
@@st33Npuist and yours isn’t?
I’m curious to see what you have to say about Kirchhoff EQ if you haven’t done one of them.
waves element ,codex, and flow motion for me. Harmor from image line is a highly underrated beast
I’m glad to see someone else uses Waves synths 💯 Not too many videos are made which is crazy because they’re so slept on
Never see anyone talk about F'em but its def my favorite synth.
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I seriously didn’t see any problem with that camera 🤷♂️
I own too many softsynths including phaseplant but when ever I just need basic waveforms with a snit ton of features I always go to surgext. If I was stranded on an island and there was only one softsynth I could take with me it would be surge
Kind of a poor choice imo. UVI Falcon has infinite possible wavetables with infinite layers per patch and any type of synthesis you can dream of. There’s a reason why professional sound designers/sampling engineers use Falcon almost exclusively. If you buy the expansions it has more presets than Omnisphere and Komplete 14 standard. Literally the only limit is CPU and your imagination.
Also why not Pigments or Zebra 2? I’d argue they both have as many features as surge and more genre-versatile shaping options in regard to basic waveforms.
@@LunaRealized cool, I never used Falcon. I feel I heard of it a few times but never gave it much thought. I'll look it up, thanks for the tip👍
Edit: I do own pigments I just bought it a week ago, still getting use to the filter and fx routing.
So why am i getting fabfilter twin 3 if i can just get falcon and stack as many oscillators as i want, not just 4
I use 64 voices all the time and 58 are in my head.
Serum UI is just too good.
Bruh they release it for Vista but not Linux ? 🤨
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Pigments 4 kills this and the upgrades have been free - and it's usually on sale for $99, same with PhasePlant. I feel Pigments does a better job at less harm on CPU resources than the rest however.
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serum will be my go too. ill pass on twin 3 lol
Blind guess during ads: Fabfilter? 😅
Nice outfit. 30 day trial...? I'm there, dude.
Interesting, does it have wavetables?
Money
i wanted Twin 3 synth BADLY... can’t afford it tho
on sale now
on sale now
Hahaha that tittle
It literally sounds like it's between Diva and Serum. I find the analog modelling way too thick sounding, everything just sounds too smooth, probably due to the over-sampling. It just doesn't have that bright buzz that you can get from Diva and Serum. Not worth £130 at all. UI has loads of annoying tiny circle areas that are hard to click. Other soft synths add a little tag, so you can move the outer ring of a two ring circle knob. Not being able to click back to zero with a double click is a nightmare. The oscillator section is all really dark, the knobs are too thin, it's all really busy and hurts my eyes. Should have learned from Diva.
They have some updating to do for this to compete.
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I love my Fabfilter stuff for the most part but yeah who tf is using Twin lol
the only thing i like about this synth is its EQ as freq/resonance control.
some very lackluster presets....i guess we're supposed to be excited about the possibility of buying...hey say what? new expansion packs.
SARUM
I am not impressed by Twin 2 (edit: and also twin 3)....at all
Where are all the NEW stuff
We need more revolutionized ideas, not more analogue-modelled witchcraft
I like Phase Plant and Falcon for precisely that reason, I love analogue synth like anybody else but why not analogue + more digital custom functionality
I'm absolutely amazed at how Vital was made with the best wavetable editor out there, intention to do better will win 100% against someone who follows the path that is already there
But yeah I still love Fabfilter :x
FabFilter one is still my go to for certain sounds. it just sounds good, i dont mind having a bigger version
Yeah the visuals are definitely messed up, you don't look like Massive Hater today.
looks very not good