Reevaluating the MPC One in 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- A re-review of sorts of the Akai MPC One... Its workflow has grown on me a ton, but recent firmware updates have given me significant concerns about its stability as a platform.
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My mpc one is my main tool , I sold most of my other gear to buy it . I have produced 4 albums on it , 3 of which I deemed worthy enough to release to the world , there on iTunes and Spotify and all the others , could have never done that without it
Same here. Not 4 albums yet lol took me 6 months to learn it and been recording for 2 months now so have 8 released tracks, but I could've never produced on a computer, doesn't make sense to me. Mpc workflow does!
Wow super proud of you. One day I’ll get to that level.
@@bogard08 thanks, I didn't say they were any good though ha ha, that's for other people to judge, I'm proud of them
Reading this make Proud to be achieving my goal of owning an MPC one
@valley_robot listening to your work on spotify now while I grind out some work. Really nice, easy listening man. It has inspired me to get an MPC One again, I realise I parted with it way to fast. Keep creating 🙏😊
I just got my hands on the plus. Let me tell you, I have the Digitakt, Octatrack , and the Analog Rytm and while I love all 3 and would never sell either of them, I’m falling in love with the MPC One. It’s everything I always wanted in a Dawless standalone machine.
Worth mentioning it’s fantastic with external synths. It runs all mine including my old SH-2 via CV
Yes, I have the hydrasynth, digitone and 707 synced to my one and love how it works with them
This...not what I originally bought my Live 2 for and it's obviously capable of much more but mine is basically a midi master for all my other synths and boxes now. Will use it for drums sometimes well.
Same happened to me. I have some bad ass sequencers, and even if in some ways this is not as fluid as those.. it still found a way to slowly edge them out.
I've been using it to sequence my Model D and Korg Opsix. Plugged them into the L and R input, added effects and wow.
This is a great point, and It’s interesting you say this, as my SH-2 was the exact reason I ended up getting an MPC One instead of other sequencers.
However, I had to grab a CV.OCD Gate Boost to get the +5v from the MPC up to the +7.5v the SH-2 was needing to see.
Did you have to increase the voltage as well? If so, what did you choose to go with? Just curious.
2.10 is as far as I'm going. No crashes. Decent plugins. Great effects. It has everything I need. Don't see myself getting rid of it. Great vid as always, Bud.
I just bought one of these, used, and they almost never used it, can a person downgrade the firmware and not experience many issues that larer firmware may have been causing?
I am forever grateful to Gabe for pushing me over the edge during my procrastination and over-analysis of what Groovebox to buy. I finally dropped the hammer on an MPC One and wondered where it had been all my life. I immediately wished I had bought it when it was $699 instead of $899, but oh well. My biggest concern was the number of people slagging off the workflow, but honestly it was the exact workflow I was looking for. It can take a lot of steps to get some things done but once you have the basics down, creating patterns and stringing them together is fantastic. I think the building-block approach it uses is logical, at least for my brain. I don't use it as deeply as others so I haven't faced many weird quirks and bugs, but I see where that would be very frustrating for heavy users. Looking past that, it is an otherwise pretty amazing piece of kit. I have a Studiologic Sledge so believe me, I know how to look past a slew of bugs to see the shiny object on the other side. Despite the constant introduction of new bugs in each update, which is disappointing and annoying, at least Akai are actually making updates and there is progress. Compared to some other manufactures who dump equipment months into it, it's hard not to root for this thing.
I bought one MINT for 500$ still in plastic. How are people paying $900 for the same box? Fucking unreal
I've had my MPC One for two years. I've installed Firmware 2.11.6 it's running sweet as a nut. I don't use Splice, Mp3, Sample Packs or the paid plugins so I have not had any issues. It works flawlessly. I'm currently working on two UK Garage eps and a Ghettotec album for a few labels. This machine is not perfect, but it's s close enough too let your imagination go wild.
I’m one of those people still on 2.10 Looking at the complaints from people on the updates keeps me on 2.10
I’m pretty happy with the free plugins and all the key groups/kits I have. Hope Akai can fix the bugs.
Same here!
Im on 2.14 and wont upgrade anymore. 2.14 is rock solid for me
@@PreciseSense85 that’s great to hear!
I totally agree with you! I first bought the One and after a few months of getting used to this device I upgraded to an X and build my whole home studio around it. I haven't regretted it so far although I also hate the bugs that are in the MPC software. Fortunately you can downgrade if it annoys you too much.
I still use the One now and then as I'm relaxing on my couch. The form factor, the amount of physical buttons and the fairly low price makes this (for me at least) a no-brainer to buy.
I looooove the MPC One, just got it last week, it's been super easy to learn, a huge asset to my workflow both on and off the computer. I love working standalone and bringing my work into a DAW later, but works just as well in unison with DAW, creating music on the fly. In my opinion its the greatest standalone drum machine/groovebox type hardware there is, but of course its all up to ones individual preference.
I’m lazy so never bothered updating to 2:11 . Now I don’t feel so bad if it is in danger of breaking things. Had mine for 2 years but always learn something new from your reviews Gabe.
Excellent vid as always, Gabe. Akai is insane for charging $350 and up for plugins when Hype and the others truly cover a LOT of ground. It makes me mad that the MPC One launched at $699 and is now $899, and they're charging even more. So many free plugins do everything those plugins do, and then some. Granted, you can't use the One as a third-party plugin host, BUT, you can use MPC Beats as a plugin host.
I feel that people need to be aware of the upselling/scam stuff some companies pull.
And the updates? Yeah. ABSOLUTELY. I'm sticking with 2.10.1 and not moving an inch. Not an inch.
I still love my One, two years after buying it. And I will, for years to come, as long as it continues to work. Some clunkiness, as you mentioned, but in general, it's a good piece of gear. Still stoked I got an open-box one for only $530.
I almost pulled the trigger on one a year or so ago and it was a lot cheaper then. Yea I think a lot of companies are now trying to claw back some money from rising costs, chip shortages etc one way or another .. sign of the times in a way
Finally ! I've been waiting for this.
After watching the video:
Akai, are you listening?
I am; and I'm not going to buy one right now.
same feeling.
It's sad because on paper it's really awesome!
But it sucks to know that you don't know when will it bug out.
Or when will Akai say "Ok, we can't push it any further, here's the next model"
You can resample with one button those string tracks and free up the cpu. Those new plugins sound dope and you get a lot of nice sound from them.
It's so crazy that they added vsts and the whole community forgot the MPC is a sampler 😂😂
I’m a career software engineer. When new features break old functionality it tells me there’s tight coupling going on, typically suspect with poor design choices. This may also be because they’ve been forking and iterating on previous major releases which simply just inherits the old problems. This is ironic because it’s endemic of larger teams rather than smaller ones :|
Great review!!! I’m still on 2.10 I’ve read that some people upgraded and their mpc got bricked. That’s probably the biggest problem with akai rn
2.10.1 and im not moving!
It’s an incredibly powerful machine and the stock plugins are fine. You can make pretty much anything you like with it, I just find the workflow annoying and clunky and I have had mine for two years. I usually reach for other gear unless I need something specific that only the MPC does simply because it’s much less fun and immediate than a lot of other gear I use.
Fair enough! It's become very immediate for me, but that's because I have the same workflow for a lot of projects.
Proud member here of the 2.10-Gang! Don't plan to buy plugins in the future and made the same hate-like-love journey! It is awesome as it is!
I don’t mind the upcharging for some of the instruments. They’re excellent additions to an extremely powerful machine. And the sales are not terrible. I love me some Fabric.
Completely agree with your criticisms.
I share your concerns. Been using the MPC One for some time now and have to say with the recent updates i'm starting to enjoy it less. In my opinion it's kinda losing it's purpose as a fun device for making some beats. Instead we're forced spending hours online looking for work arounds and fixes. I really hope it will get better, but it's a pattern we see in a lot of other stuff aswell; adding more and introducing new bugs instead of making sure the current content is running smooth and steady. Let's hope Akai is watching your videos.
Running an MPC one for about a year aswell, after a few years on a Machine. You seem to have hit every nail on the head.
I have faith, having owned a couple since 2017 and also a force😉 Also knowing whos in charge, I have faith😁
I am on 2.11.4 Hakai it’s far more reliable than 2.10 was , and because it’s Hakai with ssh I can get some great extra features , obviously get to use the force , I can control the Mpc from an custom made lemur template on the iPad , launch the looper in the background with a foot switch whenever I want, I can also change sequences legato, in that it doesn’t restart it just carries on from where it left off but in a new sequence.
I can also utilise the clip programmes much better because I can launch groups of clips from the ipad , similar to scenes on the force, but better.
My thanks goes to ultros for making Hakai possible.
Great, objective re-evaluation. You speak very clearly and articulately, by the way!
Funny seeing this as I've just ordered the MPC One+ today and will have it tomorrow. I already know what to expect as I've had the older MPC Touch (the granddaddy of all current MPCs with touchscreens) which the One + will replace
I *love* the "bunch of smart people who aren't talking to each other" observation, it's spot on. The UX is janky and it seems they struggle to keep it all cohesive and "together".
My biggest gripe with the MPC is a minor detail that then cascaded into a bigger and bigger problem for me. That detail is the reverb. Honestly, it's not great and sounds very metallic and unpleasant compared to most more CPU intensive algorithms. That's problematic because it means I'm forced to export the project at some point to finalize things in the DAW. If I used Ableton, that would have been a smooth ride, but with Reason (my DAW of choice), it becomes a chore unless you're fine with just exporting the audio stems as they are, something I'd rather not because I tend to change things up even when I'm in the final mixing phase.
Then there are other limitations that feel annoying at times, such as the no-more-than-4-inserts-per-program limitation. Once I'm back in the DAW world, I realize that I might be fooling myself when thinking I'm so much more productive on the MPC. Sure, getting from 0-80% *is* faster, but once you start to get to the details, you realize you could have built this sound or that effect chain better in the DAW, and you waste hours recreating stuff without losing the essence of what you were trying to achieve.
I don't know, but for me, I've started to try to make music directly in the DAW instead. And you know what? It's not that bad. I do wish there was a *really* integrated controller for Reason, because there's no doubt that that's the biggest gripe I have with any DAW workflow. But by learning the keyboard shortcuts, it really isn't that terrible. And you get a ton of benefits too, such as the ability to use your Bluetooth in-ears, mix on the go, and if your anything like me, your computer is always with you, super portable and completely silent (Macbook Air) and ready to go in a second. No groovebox comes close to that compatibility, portability and immediacy (in terms of being ready to jam with). I feel funny writing all this given my sunk cost in hardware, but it's true. Doesn't mean I'll stop using hardware, but it probably means I will not use the MPC as my centerpiece item in the future.
Well put.🙂👍
Thanks for the info!
Ill add learn the shortcuts in ableton (or whatever daw) and u have an almost perfect groovebox. Id really hope that all this dawless effort by people and companies would go to make the computer more playlable instead of the mouse/move/click thing. Something like the push, maschine... but done better. Or a laptop with a build in interface. Things like that.
@@afxtwinreverb yeah that would have been amazing. As soon as I go back to the DAW, I keep searching for the perfect midi controller instead. Even something as basic as a main knob that you can use to twist the currently focused soft knob/fader would have been amazing. It's actually amazing that such universal controls still do not exist. And yes, 100% agree on learning shortcuts and leveraging all of the built-in midi players, scales & chord modes and other things that can really turn the DAW into a groovebox with ease.
I was a reason user for years, it was the only music program I ran, and I knew it inside out keyboard shortcuts an all. For me it was the sound quality, not of the soundcard, but the compression in reason. For me, the akai is much better, but every now and then I miss aspects of Reason, the effects are better and better manipulated. I used a behringer controller and on the fly mixing was great. But tbh, I love the mpc more, for me it allows me to focus better on the overall aspects of being creative. Sometimes it's drawbacks actually lead to creative ideas stemming from workarounds.
You hit the nail on the head about Akai seeming like a bunch of talented folks who don't talk to each other. I prefer the Force's workflow to the MPC'S but the Force is just as susceptible to bugs and things getting broken in each version. I get the impression that In Music is like the guy running the horse carriage with a whip and Akai is one of the horses getting terribly terribly abused.
nonsense
@@m-stat9 I said more than one thing here. Want to specify which part you think is nonsense?
I have the Live II, and it's very cool. I am just now getting to really know it, but so far it's great. As someone who has a day job in software, I appreciate getting away from the computer what I'm working on music.
For anyone seeing this, in a nutshell, the difference between the One and the Live II is: the Live II has a slot for an internal drive for a TON of extra storage, has built in speakers which sound... ok, and has a few more inputs and outputs.
Oh, and a battery. The Live II has a battery, which is very cool for dragging it out of the studio and working on music where ever you happen to be. Seems to last at least a few hours for me.
My first sampler was the octatrack, which I could never fully wrap my head around. Long story short I sold it for an MPC one, which has been much more intuitive for me. There's something about the workflow that I still don't love. I've been considering, for creativity's sake, getting a digitakt to make my samples and loops and to push myself out of the very DAW-centric MPC style. I'm not sure what the move is. Maybe I should have given the octatrack more time. I picked my MPC One up for $299, so not much of a loss lol.
299 wow
Appreciate you content and tutorials Gabe!
Long as you can make some music it’s always worth it!!!!! Don’t matter what it is.
Totally! I just want to make sure that people don't get frustrated with the equipment they end up buying, or at least know the frustrating bits in advance.
Thanks a lot for this video! I've been considering getting either the MPC One or the Akai Force mainly for live performance but have had a lot of doubts of their reliability and stability. I don't think I will be getting either as I would need it to be rock solid. So far Ableton Live and a few midi controllers have been working nicely with zero reliability problems having done about 5 live gigs with this setup over the last year.
More about Maschine plus and also about how each and every hardware integrates with a DAW as I think that is always needed and gives you the freedom to work in a DAW, DAWless and the combo 🎶☀️😃
Something that is not mentioned here. The mpc software is awfull imo. Most people use it standalone and then export to use in a daw.
The less knobs and buttons on the live is no problem anymore. If you go to the main menu you just choose what you need with hitting the pads...
They had this out at my local guitar center, I was playing with it just yesterday. I was sad the mc707 out on display wasn't plugged in, I think that's more for me, this stuff is mostly way over my head. Love all the videos tho!
Nice, I wanted to get one and add the FM synth tho. But now, idk. Maybe I should wait for the “MPC two” (?)
Nah, it’s a great device. If you want one go ahead and get one. Very versatile machine
Best production tool I have ever used .
I was thinking about buying it for the last 3 days. May end up doing it, but this was a heads up!
I used it for 2 years as the main part of my dawless rig. I went back to desktop with Ableton for 8 months and now back to dawless. I still use the Mpc a lot, but using the sp404mk2 more these days. I do a lot of sampling of live instruments (I play guitar, bass, piano, etc.). For me music needs to be fun… pc just doesn’t do it for me. Mpc and 404s are both worthy buys, imo.
I'm pretty sure there are significantly more powerful ARM processors available now. Would be good to see the MPC/Force given a hardware upgrade.
Firmware wise, it seems many of these companies need to get their act together - at least put out your updates as Beta/Experimental releases until you've ironed out ALL the bugs.
Great vid as always G! I think the solution is just for people not to get too carried away with buying all the paid plugins, as should be the case for any device, standalone, DAW or otherwise. Its easy to be enamored and seduced by a new plugin that comes out, I personally do all the time. But with the MPC One, I've found that creating a keygroup out of a sample, manipulating it's parameters and stacking those sounds (as you demonstrate in this vid), is more than enough for my creative demands. If I like a plugin from a DAW, I simply sample it and use it in MPC as I please. I've used the kitmaker as well, it works like a charm if you sample a range of keys from a VST. As for the bugs and crashes, I haven't experienced any of that but fingers crossed! Anyways, carry one bro, you've got awesome content, keep it coming and I'll be anxious to hear more killer synthwave from you!
I just bought one shortly after watching this video, and it crashed 5 minutes into using it while switching a preset. Updated to the newest firmware, added the newest synth plugins and haven't had any issues. I've been making music with FL for 15 years now so the layout wasn't too confusing.
Best value for money though is a maschine mikro 2 used and Maschine software when it’s on sale
All my songs are made with the MPC One 🤙🏽
i use mine primarily as a sampler. i have beat step pro and a sq64 i use to sequence the mpc one and the rest of my synths. using it as a slave device rather than the master of my whole setup... way better route to go, IMO
Akai/InMusic headquarters is in Rhode Island, USA, but their software division is actually in the UK for some reason. Im sure there are talented coders in America.
I use a mpk249 with mpc beats! From what I seen, I'm getting the same work flow. The user interface are the exact same. I don't sample at all... dope video!
Make a MPC One instructions: Take your old laptop from 5 years ago you have sitting in your closet. Buy decent pad midi controller, install Reaper, TAL Drum, Vital, Surge XT, and TAL Noisemaker. Buy Samples from Mars at 97% discount. DONE.
Have u used or ever owned Mpc
I love my Live 2 - unlike some, I haven't experienced too many issues with it outside of the recent 2.11.5 update (which i promptly downgraded). Anything that I've found annoying or somewhat problematic is more design decisions that I've figured out how to work around.
I'm coming from 17 years of producing music on Ableton in the box and I've experienced my fair share of issues and feature focus that i disagreed with - as well as long standing issues that never seem to get resolved.
I think it's just part and parcel to software these days (and not just music software).
Totally. I use AutoCAD for my day job, so I'm very used to broken software that never seems to get properly fixed.
Great honest review great thanks !
I haven’t really come across any of the bugs mentioned as I have never used the splice integration or the looper. Only concern I’ve had is using external midi controllers where mapping disappears after shut down. I think you are right about the plug ins. Choose the ones that are really useful to you and ditch the rest. I have OPX-4. It’s great for sound design as extremely powerful for a 4 operator fm synth due to unusual wave types and extensive mod matrix. Fabric is ok, but not as good as the hardware synths I have,but don’t underestimate the other free plug ins. As you mention Hybrid is surprisingly powerful as is Tubesynth. After 2 years I am more than happy with the MPC one and it remains my central piece of hardware for track/album creation with only mastering only completed on a computer.
Awesome review! Thank You!
Long walk for a short story.
I’ve gone back to my MPC4000. Much more fun and focused. I’ll prob continue to use the One for live gigs still.
The mpc one is the best sampler in history, for its price. There is NO machine on earth at that price point that can do everything the one can. Especially if you have a budget. You can record mix and master an entire album on it, with or without touching a computer. Sound wise, due to all of its lofi and degrading systems it does have, i can replicate nearly anything to a more than servicible outcome.
Any negative you have, its got 100 positives. The only legit complaint is its lack of outputs. Future proof? It already is future proof in its current state. It needs nothing. I hear ram complaints, they are invalid, the only valid argument for it not having enough ram is for a live performer. That i can understand. But ive got MASSIVE projects and programs and ive never come close. If a beat maker is running out of ram, i think the issue is the beat maker thinking they need 1000000000 things going on. We all know ALL of the best songs of all time, are quite simple when broken down.
The one other legit complain i personally have, which is subjective. ... is its reliance on touch screen. I chose the one over the live 2 simply due to its shape (i am Anti rectangle) and its many more dedicated buttons. If the touch screen ever fails, well we are fucked. We can do alot without the touch, but theres many things it cant do. I think this is one of the only legit worries to have. I will probably buy the Mpc one + simple to have as a back up for the future just incase. I may invest in some broken ones on ebay for parts.
Owned both the the live 2 and MPC One and found the One to be the best workflow out of the two.
Sorry to say the MPC range died when the Keys 61 was released. 2.10 was the last pure MPC OS in my opinion.
The MPC One was the closest I’ve been to just making music and forgetting about the hardware and software. I could switch this thing on and just go. But, sadly the updates kept coming and slowly but surely my frustrations superseded its workflow. Scales in pad perform was the big one for me. They just broke it and when they did fix it it was clunky.
Plus those plug in prices 😮 what were they thinking!! Nobody expected them to be free and I’m all up for supporting Akai but it felt like a cheap cash grab.
The hardware limitations are also apparent since 2.11. Loading bars and glitchy/crashes was the new norm.
Although I did enjoy using controller mode and my vsts. I think controller mode is often overlooked. It’s one of its biggest strengths. The idea of plugging in a laptop and having the power of vsts is pretty impressive. Plus you don’t need to even look at the laptop screen just use its processor.
In the end I sold my MPC’s and moved on to ableton and push 2. It just works. I now have a laptop with Ableton and a MK3 Launchpad for mobile production.
I’ll keep an eye on Akai but I’ll wait for a MPC One v2 and a more stable OS before returning.
It sounds you know how to use your gear! thanks for the review
Bought it from your review. I need to put much more time in, but even just to trying to get it to work with my computer, load the basic data into the device has been such an absolute pain that I'm almost tempted to drop it and go for the native instruments...
Splice intergration? Thats the cherry on top for me. Im in
I got mine new for 699usd plus tax and got to experience the upgrades with the wonderful new plug-ins, but now I'm choosing to stick to 2.10.1 I figure I'll eventually get more plugins when I buy the next generation of the MPC, or if I get the key 61, which I doubt unless I get a super deal. I'm banking that the next generation will have the same os just more processing and memory, so all the plug-ins of today will run on the next generation. Not too sad about not upgrading or even keeping myself from buying the new fm synth. It's still the best studio machine I ever bought for the money
I got one second hand recently and think it’s great; I’m learning finger drumming and also to play keyboard with the electric piano plugin
Just got the One to accompany my MPC X for on the road jamming. Now thinking about selling my X because the One is such fun and maybe getting a Force 😅
Thanks for the info. Being that I have been away from any kind of music making as a fun hobby for about eighteen years, I've decided to jump back in. I ended up winning an ebay bid for one of these at half the price that they are currently brand new. I figured it since I am a technical person, and still have a desire to play around and make music, I thought that I'd jump in with this unit for the price, and the features offered. I didn't want to drop big money on a casual hobby, so this unit at used prices seems good to me.
I do like my MPC one, but something about my Circuit track’s interface just seems to allow me to work more effectively. I kinda want to try using the two together but can’t get my head around how they might work. Have you ever tried using both of them?
2.10 Hive BLUKA BLUKA BLUKA! My Live 2 is the centerpiece of my studio but these days I'm only using it as a Midi brain
Just bounce the plugins to a sample after you record your midi. They make it super easy to do. As far as the bugs they are doing next level stuff as far as upgrades so bugs are to be expected. Just dont upgrade as soon as they come out
Agree 100%. Funny because the track that he showed CPU/RAM getting hammered is the genre of music that you’d typically re-sample those tracks and turn them into sample chops, and delete the plug-in tracks. Work within the abilities of your hardware, and you’ll never hit the limit.
I t seems like stating the obvious, but I think the next MPC from Akai will have more memory, just like the MPC Keys. Thanks for the tip on Kit Maker. I have quite a few Maschine Libraries that shipped with Komplete Ultimate but that I never use.
Many rhytms already exist in this world, from Cha Cha, Disco, etc. to swinging Jazz styles. I just want to play with my keyboard and select a pattern and tempo with intro, ending and fills. This seems really difficult on modern drum computers. For me is this also a nogo, it would be difficult.
As many times as I have been pissed at my mpc even with every issue the MPC line has. No matter how many times I leave it alone for a while and question selling it I turn it on and get the F down with it like nothing else I have and I've got a lot of gear and vst daws groove boxes etc.
Also as a Live 2 owner that speaker and interface capability makes it a staple for mobile production.
As long as it works I feel it will remain a staple of mine until they make the Mpc of my dreams.
I have no need for the paid plugins , the FM synth is better served by the free dexed, the free iPad synth one is another great one
MPC's bugs have never bothered me much: they're not supercritical (I don't use Splice), they get sorted out and you can always choose not to upgrade.
As for performance and paid plugins. Less of a problem on my MPC Live 2 (which has double the RAM) and if anything, I would welcome more third-party developers to develop for the standalone platform.
The thing that is making it hard to choose between the MPC One and an Octatrack is that is seems like the Octatrack is able to make glitchy weird stuff much more quickly. I'm trying to achieve a balance between sample mangling and a instrumental performance. I play keys so I sample myself, I don't really like using other peoples' samples. If the MPC One could make glitchy/generative stuff I think it would be an easy choice haha.
Have you tried an Akai Force? If not, grab one, I think you might be really surprised with the ease of workflow and it integrates brilliantly with hardware.
I have, I've done a few videos on it, making a couple of full songs. I've been enjoying it a lot for its unique performance/production features but I still end up reaching for the MPC for regular beatmaking.
The Force got an update today 😄
@@GabeMillerMusic I'll check em out, I haven't used my Force in a while, I haven't used any of my gear in over a year lol. That will change in a few weeks
:D
@@TheCircusp PROBABILITY & RATCHETING
Woop woop, this is exactly what this machine needs, excellent news, thx for the heads up.
@@TheCircusp Version? Mines not finding anything
Beatstep original = $60 used. Koala Sampler on phone/tablet $5. Lay the KOALA app landscape and its perfectly aligned.
Have you ever considered using the MC-101 as a sound module together with the MPC One? If you have, do you know if the USB audio works?
Connected to a Korg Kronos/Nautilus and this combo is brutal.
Having worked in IT development for decades I see the MPC software as a typical example of poor architecture. If firmware updates are frequent and contain mostly bug fixes, that is a clear sign that the underlying architecture and the quality of the coding is poor. That’s what we have with the MPC OS. That doesn’t mean it’s bad, it just means it will never really be stable. Akai isn’t the only company with such problems, but is a textbook example .
Another sign of poor architecture is the clunky workflow and UX on the MPC. That is the result of adding features too frequently without an overall consistent design concept. Such an approach to engineering creates systemic instabilities.
The fact that MPC still doesn’t have a real song arrangement functionality is probably because the fundamental sequence/track architecture is outdated and leaves Akai in a dead end. Because of the lack of a sound engineering concept, It is now simply too costly and difficult to dig itself out of that dead end so energy is spent on plug ins to generate revenue.
Perhaps, akai has found a way out of through the akai force, which has the same power as the MPC but without the archaic single loop centric sequence architecture? For music production that goes beyond a single loop with some track mutes, the MPC is a dead end though…
One area Akai could (I think easily?) improve on the MPC is mapping external midi inputs. I can't find a way to map Looper or Sampler controls to a foot switch for example. Audio inputs only offer mixer targets like volume and pan (rather than Rec arm for example), and no global controls when you should be able to map midi directly to MPC controls (e.x. adding buttons missing on the Live that are available on One and Live 2). Recording multiple midi tracks at once is a good super power of the MPC and improving midi maps would make that power more accessible.
The MPC One has been on my list for a long time as an all in one with sampler. I've been seeing if I can get by in DAWs (currently Bitwig - no lazy chopping and other software sampler annoyances) but I'm really still feeling the urge for a hardware sampler. And at this price point (and hey it's an Akai after all), it does still look desirable. I just worry about making full tracks with it, due to the workflow and then end up hopping back to the DAW.
If it helps, it does have a song mode that's not bad, although personally I usually end up exporting the tracks and finishing them in my DAW (like the last 15ish%).
Workflow from the stone age.
To help with the load times, grab the fastest SD card you can. I've got one that is rated for 150MB per second and usually it is pretty fast with Fabric XL presets. (1-3 seconds per preset change).
For the MPC one
...and just as you mention the possibility of future feature updates being locked behind a paywall, they release flavor pro 🤣
Haha I swear I didn't plan that, the timing was uncanny
Why compare against the Maschine Plus? The price point for the Machine Plus is the same as the MPC Live 2. This gives a great bang for your buck because it's using the same interface as its older brothers. The price has been raised for the One recently I was able to get mine for $699.00 (US) which is great when it came out.
I have discovered a few crazy things about Rhythm that I wonder if people know about. For instance, did you know you can latch grid FX while you resample?
Edit: sorry to hijack an MPC video!
Yeah it's a great feature, I covered it in my "Circuit Rhythm Hacks" video :)
@@GabeMillerMusic I'll revisit that one now then. Adding Rhythm to Tracks has opened up a disgustingly big world of possibilities. I haven't opened my DAW in 3 weeks except to steal some samples out of it.😆
The "plug ins" are just skins and short cuts to achievement. You don't really need them. The mpc ones 2gbs of ram and its onboard storage was always going to be an issue but as it is you basically have a little box that can do all worlds of stuff.
They need to sort there stuff out with the updates.
Just a heads up, atm maschine plus is 200 cheaper for europe and uk, 300 for usa for the "cyber season." Expansions are half price too. Still more expensive than the mpc one, but honestly as an owner of both the mpc one has been collecting dust, for many of the negatives mentioned here, and also i started with maschine at 1.0, never got an mpc until 2 years ago. Once you have that muscle memory, it´s difficult to switch imo. If i started with an mpc, i wouldn't get how maschine worked in the first few months...
I WANT a Maschine Plus but not in its current incarnation. Then again took till Firmware 3.05 before I grabbed a Force. Having Komplete 13/14 in a standalone piece of hardware is definitely something I want. Just waiting for them to either show horn more into this Plus or release a MKII
What's baffling the hell out of me is, I can't figure out how to put sounds on separate midi channels for a true multitimbral setup. It seems like everything is playing off the same midi channel.....ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love/hate, that's the MPC experience in a nutshell ; )
I love mine but never recommend it for anyone without the same caveats outlined here.
Still think it's the best sequencer with only a couple of others coming close.
Do you feel that the live 2 has the same problems with the updates? Great video
I enjoy my MPC One. However I REALLY wish they would let the sampler trigger from the count-in!
I don't use the Audio tracks because I like to jam and the sampler keeps on going while the sequence loops. I don't use the plug-ins for the same reason that I don't use soft synths in a DAW - I find them fiddly and they take too much effort to get what I want compared to plugging in an acoustic/electric/electronic instrument. I do need to explore the CV capabilities a bit more.
Loved the workflow of my TE OP-Z but the Bic lighter like build quality turned me off on it so ditched it for a 1010Music Blackbox Studio or as I call it my MPC Micro :) I’ve got WAY too much gear and each has its place.
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Bro, i think that you should maybe have an answer to my doudt, can i use the MPC one as a multi-timbral module and send sequence and data to it by Ableton Live? or i need to use his own program? Maybe it sound a little redundant, but im been using a Verselab MV 1 in that way for about 2 years, and i want to know is the MPC ona can do it better... I have one right now and kinda of struggling with that!
Nice video! Key 61 owner here and first time MPC user. For me, the question has been why would I not just keep using the plug-ins and why should I bother with the samples? I don't seem to have the memory issues and the plug-ins especially OPX4 and Mini D sound great. Should I take the time to bother with the sample kits and key groups? Thanks.
Ur a real one
I’m weird I own an MPC Renaissance and a One as well as the Force(my favorite of the 3) I’m looking forward to next generation with more RAM ala MPC Key 61 and more and better processors. Been playing keyboard since 1973 but relative newcomer to MPC….. 2018ish
Just bought a second hand unit with the intention of using it for samples and sampling midi and cv synths back into it so not really planning on using the plugins. I've listened to a few of the expansions and I'm not very impressed, I think the NI Maschine expansions are much more worth the money so will probably continue buying these and converting with kitmaker, as a maschine user I was looking at buying a maschine plus but for half the price I'm willing to give this a go and work around the issues!
The MPC expansions sound terrible in the demos, however, they are usually awesome in practice. NI certainly put more time in the presentation, but I rarely use them now in One & Force.
If you already own them then Kitmaker is a no brainier. But I wouldn’t personally buy more.
@@vaiman7777 I'll take that into account but I agree that the majority of expansions I've heard in preview don't sound great, I usually buy the NI expansions when there's an offer on as they're a bit pricey but so are the mpc ones, personally I think if you've the time to come up with your own original samples then more power to you but not everyone has the time and just want to get into producing a beat, at the end of the day it's good to have options and with that in mind kitmaker is as you say a bit of a no brainer, definitely worth the initial outlay.
@@paulmurray5338 Totally. Yeah they are expensive, the few I have from 3rd party vendors like JRR Shop that are much cheaper than the store. I watched TH-cam guys demo them first. I mostly use Funk O, Glitter & Nu Skillz. The key groups on some are excellent, worth the price alone. I'm the same, I don't have the time, or skill to do my own. But I can testify they are top quality if you do venture into their stuff. Shame the demos are truly awful.
You should really have bought the MPC Live instead, so much more memory with a big SSD. The Live kicks arse playing out and controls all of my live setup to perfection.