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@@Primalliquid92 You could also use a cheat engine table to swap any character model to seymour, like yuna, so you would have the summon skill whithout changing the items. The cheat tables i saw also has a party editor so you can change the party and check the boxes so it will force the character into the party. You can get seymour to be the only party member like that too so you don't have to kill the others
Awesome video, I love seeing unique and fun challenges like this. Modders keeping old games fresh and fun. Wakka :But, using mods- that's bad, isn't it? Maester Seymour Guado : Pretend you didn't see them. Wakka : Beg your pardon, but *that's* not something a Maester should say! Maester Seymour Guado : Then pretend I didn't say it. Wakka : You're kidding!
The story plot in my head goes like this. Seymour after dying while inside Sin watched still as Yuna and her Guardians go on to kill a Final Summons followed by every single Summons and then Yu Yevon which kills Sin. As Yuna starts her wiggle wiggle dancing Seymour realizes what he missed. The connection of Yuna's Guardians somehow changed fate, changed destiny itself! He should have been a Guardian.. Grabbing onto all the pyreflies as Sin's form starts to explode he rides the wave backwards in time! How? Sin bullshit. He travels back to when Tidus first appeared in Spira and takes his human form to fit in, following as a Guardian while taking enjoyment of killing himself multiple times for what a idiot he ways. Oh, and knocking out everyone every chance he gets because petty revenge is still nice. After he kills Sin and commands Yuna to do the wiggle wiggle he now sits atop of the world in power and awe. He commands this planet with all gleefully following his every word as if he was God. Yuna? Wiggle wiggle.
Tbh? It's obvious asf he was originally meant to be a guardian but the developers scrapped the idea. There's no freaking way he wasn't originally intended for that. They pulled it and that'd why there are gaps in the game with him but at the same time he obviously gets SL points and gains experience plus he wears armor and weapon like the rest of the party.
@@60wwediva meh. Sephiroth in 1997 FF7 also had equipped armour, weaponry and gained exp after his fight against the dragon alongside Cloud, yet the devs made it clear he was supposed to be the antagonist all along. So I don't really think your logic works here :/
12:30 there is a particular fight in FFT where not having enough speed will make progress impossible unless rafa gets confused and doesn't rush to her death
It makes sense that Seymour's not programmed to healed by save points since he isn't normally playable outside of battles and doesn't have a true slot in the party. The save point logic probably goes "heal Tidus, Yuna, Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri, Auron and Rikku" instead of doing a blanket "heal party". I read something that FFX's battle engine can't handle two of the same aeon models on the field at once and so dies if you try forcing it. Too many polygons maybe?
I highly doubt it's a polygon issue, because you can summon the normal version of an Aeon during a Dark Aeon fight, so it's much much more likely to be a scripting issue. I don't have first hand experience of how the FFX code works, so I could be off base, but it probably uses the exact same character model and coding for the enemy summons, and instead of having a way to differentiate between allied and enemy it just disables your ability to summon that Aeon to make the coding easier. I would also assume the only reason you can have two Seymours in the same battle is that each instance has a unique character ID, and this one is probably a modified version of the Mushroom Rock Seymour.
Being that Seymour is immune to practically all status effects during his boss fights, I guess maybe the playable version of him also shares those resistances? I've seen modded games before where Seymour is able to use provoke against the party during his boss fight in Macalania, and he has a unique animation for using it, which makes me think that the "enemy" version of Seymour is largely the same as the playable version of him. If memory serves, he's only vulnerable to Poison in his boss fights, and is immune to almost everything else. Odds are that the playable version for Seymour was never given much time to be balanced correctly, since he's only used in one fight normally, and so they used the enemy version of him as a baseline for the playable version. If that's true, then it's probably the reason why you're noticing him being immune to things like Petrification, Berserk, Zombie, etc. Only exception to this seems to be Death, but since Anima's Pain bypasses resistances, maybe his immunity to Death isn't factored in.
yea i honestly have no idea what was going on, its a pretty janky mod/addition really so its understandable its not programmed properly since unlike with beatrix in FF9, seymour was never meant to be in the party and then cut
@@Primalliquid92 Yuna has a hidden unique animation as well that never makes it into the game. Use FFXED editor and in the items, make one of the abilities that is called Tetra flare ( I forgot the entire ame but it's def tetra, a movie from the spectral keeper from zanarkand trials) and have Yuna use that item move then she does a different type of summon dance then cats the spell.
@@Primalliquid92I also believe Seymour was initially at one point meant to become a longer temporary party member or a guardian but they completely changed their minds and this is why for instance he gains experience as well s SL points
Anima's Pain doesn't bypass resistances. Aeons aren't insta-killed by it, and if you hack Deathproof then your regular characters won't be either. Only Dark Anima's version of Pain ignores all immunity. It'll have something to do with Seymour's weapon or armor having an invisible ability that grants a bunch of properties (likely including immunities, just not death). Aeons work this way too. That's where they get their Ribbon-like immunity and even protection against things like eject and the four breaks.
wanted to do something a little different and to start incorperating mods into the runs to make them more unique since challenge runs are becoming more and more common now wanna try to avoid problems like the FF9 trance one where me and NG+ were working on the same run at the same time
I never actually played around with any of the FF editing tools but a possible solution to the final fight would be to as the other guy says name tidus as Seymour, but then use the save editor to edit tidus’ stats and skills to be exactly the same as your Seymour at that point. That would be the closest thing to using the actual Seymour to beat it. In terms of gameplay other than overdrives and equipment he would be identical. I don’t know if it’s possible at all but runs of FFX using solo other random guys would be really cool. The program can let you play as enemies right? Or not. Either way I assume that would lead to even more crashes than this.
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This was very entertaining despite going sideways so hard. Came her from the "Can you beat FF VII with Sephiroth" vid and I'm sad that one glitched out so bad :/
@@Primalliquid92You miiiiiiight be able to hijack some of the randomizers for the earlier FF games to get basically the same thing? 4 and 6 should be... uh, well, as possible as you can get with the forced party member usage both have. 6 needs 3 members in the endgame (unless you want to just copy the same character 3x which would be kind of funny, if it's possible) and 4 likes its cutscene fights. Not sure how that'd work out.
I'm not even 2 minutes in, yet I must say that I couldn't even focus on your explanation at all because the FFIX music track (You're not alone) just occupied my brain with too many deeply rooted emotions. Well, now after listening to this song several times again, endulging in precious memories, I'll finally go back to the start of your video to concentrate on this interesting challenge run. Sorry but this music is just too good to ignore!
Honestly I want to see Seymour with full functionality where he works completely fine in the game where he has his boss segments parts as well plus the summons working fine too It would honestly be a amazing thing where he has proper funcions as well
5:34 I imagine it's because the code is fixed on the 7 actual party members and the 8 (10, Magus Sisters) available Aeons, meaning it will go by Character ID (e.g. Tidus being a fixed ID 01, or Valefor being a fixed 08) and checking if Tidus/01's HP = his max HP, if not copy his max HP to his current HP and so on. It may skip that check for Seymour or any other character that isn't within that case-check. Of course, I dunno the source code, however given it was 1999-2001 when they coded this I imagine it was easier to just do a loop that goes through the numbers 1 to 17 (or 0 to 16) and perform the heal on the given ID, instead of hardcoding it for everyone; and going from 0-XX for any additional story-only character like Seymour is something redundant anyway, why have the machine perform it
hey prime, on disgaea 7 is the AI logic broken? I can't program AI to use brave heart on another unit, it just does nothing even when the unit has SP and the spell is unlocked, ally unit > nearest unit > move to unit > cast brave heart, the AI unit does nothing every turn.
I think I can guess why you couldn't get him to appear against BFA. Whenever the game shuffles the party it's essentially putting character slots 1-7 into a predetermined order. The game does this very thing at the start of that fight, which is why you always start with Tidus/Yuna/Auron. Seymour's theoretical character slot 8 is not accounted for, so he simply disappears. That character slot is only ever called in one fight, and that's Sinspawn Gui 2. This would also be why the game crashes so often. I suspect it would be more stable if the hack *replaced* an existing character with Seymour from the ground up (by changing their model, name, stats, etc.) instead of just calling character slot 8 and confusing the game. I presume you'd have similar issues hacking Aerith or Beatrix back in as well.
actually betrix and aerith mods are very stable believe it or not, likely due to the fact they were originally programmed as being in the game until they got cut since they both have tons of dialogue already in the files
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@@Primalliquid92 Eh, in the sense that he's trying to destroy the current status quo that has a bunch of death just happening. Anarchist theory doesn't really have "total human annihilation" as a goal, though. :P
I got baited into thinking the most obvious villain in final fantasy history was gonna join the party cause after the fight where you use him, he gets XP on the end screen. I was like "wait... what?? I have to juggle another character???"
There IS a mod for ff9 that allows you to recruit beatrix and edits her abilities to make her function like a normal party member, learning seiken and white magic off her armors and swords.
Honestly, even managing to do everything you did is worthy of.... well I'd say praise, but we all know how madness inducing crashes are and having to basically break the game to outspeed a boss so you aren't insta killed I'd say I more fill pity. All joking aside though, loved the vid.
I have an idea! FFX playthrough, but not able to swap characters at all, inside or outside of combat. Only use the character line-up the game gives you throughout various parts of the story. I bet that would be a fun challenge, the game limiting who you can grind with at any given part of the game.
it's a shame we couldn't see a seymour and tidus swap for this Would have been funny if the seymour boss fights were instead tidus (same moves and ai just a model swap)
17:08 you are correct, maybe next FF should have 100k max hp but every skill you use instead of draining mp it drains HP. Kinda like if you use too much characters in naruto, you die.
Would some kind of hyper blue mage Kimahri run where he learns the enemies named attacks as he encounters them be possible? As it stands, his current blue mage abilities are a little underwhelming and I feel he deserves vindication. Thanks for the neat video!
Why take the time to mod Seymour into the party but then think that wasting 2 turns at the start of every fight for the whole game is better than moding it just a little further so that dead party members don't auto-rez between each fights ?
Doesn't the escape command remove individual party members? would be easier than killing the party, just flee with not Seymour 1 and 2. Am I wrong?? I always use the skill Flee to get the whole party out
If they fail to run away they might end up staying alive long enough to absorb a key attack, and they can't run away at all in boss fights. Having to take two turns to manually kill them just makes it a bit harder. But I do agree that having them run (or kill themselves/switch weapons until they die) is a legitimate alternative.
Only a grindmonster like primal could attempt something crazy like this. If reincarnation is real you will be reincarnated as the grindiest gears in the universe and will be the most important part of the god machine lol
Would have been interesting taking on the post game like this since Seymour can only deal 9999 damage. But you already leveled up anime a lot, which offsets that.
@@Primalliquid92 Yeah, a solo character without BHPL can't go far on the dark aeons. Dark Valefor is doable (Auto-Life for Energy Blast) and *maybe* Dark Ixion as well, but not Ifrit or Bahamut onward.
Seymour was awesome to use in the game and I wished he would join party again before things turned for the worst. Sadly this has bugs as I'd like to use his overdrive, but this run was enjoyable to watch. ❤ Edit: AND this sucks. Cant use him for the Braska's Final Aeon fight.
So I only have 1 idea that may of helped did you have a cutscene skip mod because if so that may of bypassed seymour being kicked out of the party also good try but I'm glad you said no you can't beat it because as you said there was just too much jury rigging going on there XD
During my first playthrough when he joined the party for the Sin spawn fight i though he was going to be a permanent party member. Either way i wonder if you would have hit max damage had you got a BDL (Break Damage Limit) item on him during the run.
Despite the fact that FFX is one of my favorite games, I haven't tried mods in it. I'll have to look into those. If I can add Jecht that would be awesome.
@@ChaosWindScar99 unfortunately he doesn't have any battle models so its not a thing you can do. what you CAN do with a hex editing table like cheatengine is switch an aeon for his own aeon final boss self and the game doesn't break but thats a whole other bitch in itself, i tried getting cheat engine to do that but my computer goes bonkers with its anti virus and straight up refuses to even let it install and quarantined the file the next day so somethings definitely been attached to it
@@HyperShadow991 Oh well that's unfortunate I'm glad theoretically its possible though. Thanks for the insight either way. I'll have to poke around the mods myself soon.
@@ChaosWindScar99 for sure! currently i am doing a self inspired hard mode using a mod to replace yuna with seymour and the enemy stats are buffed by 30% which i increase by 10% after each major boss so currently at 50% on bikanel but man that wendigo slapped rikku for 9854 damage and my jaw hit the ground
The same crashing happens when you try to summon any aeon during a scripted battle where you’re not allowed to have them at that point. Found that out by hacking my ps2 game lol.
Another fantastic video. Super fun idea, especially with all the other channels that do challenge runs, it's cool to see one that isn't possible without modding. Hope your channel manages to pick up speed again, I'm looking forward to your next videos
thats actually why i started to include some mods mixed in, back when i first started challenges i was the only one really doing them where as now theres been a few times ive been working on something and then somebody else releases the same video so i just have to scrap the idea
@Primalliquid92 Don't scrap a video just because someone else has done it. You're providing more than just the challenge run, you're providing your take on the challenge run and personality as well as editing style. If everyone had to be perfectly unique on here, 99% of videos would dissappear. It's not like you're a "reaction" channel that just steals other people's content
I have a challenge for you: Can the AI beat Dragon Quest XI, with all draconian quests on? Every character in the game can be set to AI control, even the MC, so is it possible to beat the game without the player actually participating in a battle?
I would bet someone has tried the Sephiroth only challenge in FF7, but would bet it could be boring as Sephiroth is normally not controllable in battle.
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You missed the most obvious solution: Name Tidus "Seymour" at the start and beat the game with him.
but then i cant have a video full of problems!
wouldnt be the same. tidus doesnt have the edge lord look or the extreme stalker and creep vibes.
@@Primalliquid92 You could also use a cheat engine table to swap any character model to seymour, like yuna, so you would have the summon skill whithout changing the items. The cheat tables i saw also has a party editor so you can change the party and check the boxes so it will force the character into the party. You can get seymour to be the only party member like that too so you don't have to kill the others
Any FF7 rebirth content getting put out? Trailer breakdown, what we know so far, etc?
@@daniel199692 or use the Seymour pilgrimage mod program or farmland editor to add Seymour to the party without using cheat engine.
"Delightfully devilish, Seymour."
* Walks in. * "Uh!?!"
Absolutely loving the use of "You're Not Alone" as background music during a solo run lmao
That's the song he uses for all of these videos
Awesome video, I love seeing unique and fun challenges like this. Modders keeping old games fresh and fun.
Wakka :But, using mods- that's bad, isn't it?
Maester Seymour Guado : Pretend you didn't see them.
Wakka : Beg your pardon, but *that's* not something a Maester should say!
Maester Seymour Guado : Then pretend I didn't say it.
Wakka : You're kidding!
yea its always an interesting concept
😂😂😂
Seymour doesn't give a shit lol he gets modded in and he plans to help out because of the mod and just rolled with it
The story plot in my head goes like this.
Seymour after dying while inside Sin watched still as Yuna and her Guardians go on to kill a Final Summons followed by every single Summons and then Yu Yevon which kills Sin.
As Yuna starts her wiggle wiggle dancing Seymour realizes what he missed. The connection of Yuna's Guardians somehow changed fate, changed destiny itself! He should have been a Guardian..
Grabbing onto all the pyreflies as Sin's form starts to explode he rides the wave backwards in time! How? Sin bullshit.
He travels back to when Tidus first appeared in Spira and takes his human form to fit in, following as a Guardian while taking enjoyment of killing himself multiple times for what a idiot he ways.
Oh, and knocking out everyone every chance he gets because petty revenge is still nice.
After he kills Sin and commands Yuna to do the wiggle wiggle he now sits atop of the world in power and awe. He commands this planet with all gleefully following his every word as if he was God.
Yuna? Wiggle wiggle.
i love it haha
Your story is stupid.
Tbh? It's obvious asf he was originally meant to be a guardian but the developers scrapped the idea. There's no freaking way he wasn't originally intended for that. They pulled it and that'd why there are gaps in the game with him but at the same time he obviously gets SL points and gains experience plus he wears armor and weapon like the rest of the party.
@@60wwediva meh. Sephiroth in 1997 FF7 also had equipped armour, weaponry and gained exp after his fight against the dragon alongside Cloud, yet the devs made it clear he was supposed to be the antagonist all along. So I don't really think your logic works here :/
@@fancypotato1873The only way to confirm would be to hack into the data files of both games.
That 6hp left on Yunalesca is the biggest middle finger to 9999 damage LoL!
12:30 there is a particular fight in FFT where not having enough speed will make progress impossible unless rafa gets confused and doesn't rush to her death
4:50 for the start
It makes sense that Seymour's not programmed to healed by save points since he isn't normally playable outside of battles and doesn't have a true slot in the party. The save point logic probably goes "heal Tidus, Yuna, Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri, Auron and Rikku" instead of doing a blanket "heal party".
I read something that FFX's battle engine can't handle two of the same aeon models on the field at once and so dies if you try forcing it. Too many polygons maybe?
I highly doubt it's a polygon issue, because you can summon the normal version of an Aeon during a Dark Aeon fight, so it's much much more likely to be a scripting issue. I don't have first hand experience of how the FFX code works, so I could be off base, but it probably uses the exact same character model and coding for the enemy summons, and instead of having a way to differentiate between allied and enemy it just disables your ability to summon that Aeon to make the coding easier. I would also assume the only reason you can have two Seymours in the same battle is that each instance has a unique character ID, and this one is probably a modified version of the Mushroom Rock Seymour.
Being that Seymour is immune to practically all status effects during his boss fights, I guess maybe the playable version of him also shares those resistances? I've seen modded games before where Seymour is able to use provoke against the party during his boss fight in Macalania, and he has a unique animation for using it, which makes me think that the "enemy" version of Seymour is largely the same as the playable version of him. If memory serves, he's only vulnerable to Poison in his boss fights, and is immune to almost everything else. Odds are that the playable version for Seymour was never given much time to be balanced correctly, since he's only used in one fight normally, and so they used the enemy version of him as a baseline for the playable version. If that's true, then it's probably the reason why you're noticing him being immune to things like Petrification, Berserk, Zombie, etc. Only exception to this seems to be Death, but since Anima's Pain bypasses resistances, maybe his immunity to Death isn't factored in.
yea i honestly have no idea what was going on, its a pretty janky mod/addition really so its understandable its not programmed properly since unlike with beatrix in FF9, seymour was never meant to be in the party and then cut
@@Primalliquid92 FF9 with only Beatrix sounds like fun.
@@Primalliquid92 Yuna has a hidden unique animation as well that never makes it into the game. Use FFXED editor and in the items, make one of the abilities that is called Tetra flare ( I forgot the entire ame but it's def tetra, a movie from the spectral keeper from zanarkand trials) and have Yuna use that item move then she does a different type of summon dance then cats the spell.
@@Primalliquid92I also believe Seymour was initially at one point meant to become a longer temporary party member or a guardian but they completely changed their minds and this is why for instance he gains experience as well s SL points
Anima's Pain doesn't bypass resistances. Aeons aren't insta-killed by it, and if you hack Deathproof then your regular characters won't be either. Only Dark Anima's version of Pain ignores all immunity.
It'll have something to do with Seymour's weapon or armor having an invisible ability that grants a bunch of properties (likely including immunities, just not death). Aeons work this way too. That's where they get their Ribbon-like immunity and even protection against things like eject and the four breaks.
This is an awesome video. more love for seymour is always appreciated.
wanted to do something a little different and to start incorperating mods into the runs to make them more unique since challenge runs are becoming more and more common now wanna try to avoid problems like the FF9 trance one where me and NG+ were working on the same run at the same time
@@Primalliquid92 That's certainly a good idea. As is the idea for this run.
im happy to start getting this style of videos again!
More to come!
I never actually played around with any of the FF editing tools but a possible solution to the final fight would be to as the other guy says name tidus as Seymour, but then use the save editor to edit tidus’ stats and skills to be exactly the same as your Seymour at that point.
That would be the closest thing to using the actual Seymour to beat it. In terms of gameplay other than overdrives and equipment he would be identical.
I don’t know if it’s possible at all but runs of FFX using solo other random guys would be really cool. The program can let you play as enemies right? Or not. Either way I assume that would lead to even more crashes than this.
Missed an opportunity with Seymour Natus where he didn't have to worry bout seeing mour seymour.
15:14 Anyone else hear PrimalLiquid say the PP word? 🤣
Great video as always bud, loved this challenge!
shhh haha
Seymour content is always fantastic
indeed it is
About time he gets love!
It would be cool if you were also able to use his other forms after dying
This looked to be one frustrating challenge! Nice job. Can't believe that 9999 on Yunalesca when she had only 6hp left didn't give an Overkill!
Primal thank you so much for working so hard on amazing content. Getting a notification for one of your uploads always brightens my day. I hope that you are doing well!
"Can You Beat Final Fantasy X Using ONLY Seymour?" No you can not as he is NOT a playable char.
Okay, opening with ff9 "you are not alone" hits me like a truck
its like my calling card at this point haha
Ff9 ost best girl
This was very entertaining despite going sideways so hard. Came her from the "Can you beat FF VII with Sephiroth" vid and I'm sad that one glitched out so bad :/
The grind you do for videos so is unreal
I enjoyed this. I'd be interested in seeing other FF games with the same concept.
saddly mods for playable characters are quite limited
@@Primalliquid92You miiiiiiight be able to hijack some of the randomizers for the earlier FF games to get basically the same thing? 4 and 6 should be... uh, well, as possible as you can get with the forced party member usage both have. 6 needs 3 members in the endgame (unless you want to just copy the same character 3x which would be kind of funny, if it's possible) and 4 likes its cutscene fights. Not sure how that'd work out.
I'm not even 2 minutes in, yet I must say that I couldn't even focus on your explanation at all because the FFIX music track (You're not alone) just occupied my brain with too many deeply rooted emotions.
Well, now after listening to this song several times again, endulging in precious memories, I'll finally go back to the start of your video to concentrate on this interesting challenge run. Sorry but this music is just too good to ignore!
Ooh you should do Final Fantasy 6 with only Leo, Biggs, and Wedge. Imagine trying to tackle the final dungeon with those 3!
all depends on what mods are available im afraid
@Primalliquid92 heck I could probably make that one myself. I've dabbled in FF6 modding before. It wouldn't be hard I don't think.
I'm a long time fan. Primal. Keep this up.
You are a sucker for punishment. I love it. Thanks for the great content.
seymour t posing while fighting evrae is everything
Honestly I want to see Seymour with full functionality where he works completely fine in the game where he has his boss segments parts as well plus the summons working fine too
It would honestly be a amazing thing where he has proper funcions as well
5:34 I imagine it's because the code is fixed on the 7 actual party members and the 8 (10, Magus Sisters) available Aeons, meaning it will go by Character ID (e.g. Tidus being a fixed ID 01, or Valefor being a fixed 08) and checking if Tidus/01's HP = his max HP, if not copy his max HP to his current HP and so on. It may skip that check for Seymour or any other character that isn't within that case-check.
Of course, I dunno the source code, however given it was 1999-2001 when they coded this I imagine it was easier to just do a loop that goes through the numbers 1 to 17 (or 0 to 16) and perform the heal on the given ID, instead of hardcoding it for everyone; and going from 0-XX for any additional story-only character like Seymour is something redundant anyway, why have the machine perform it
FFX challenge video? Oh yeah, I’m tuning back in.
hey prime, on disgaea 7 is the AI logic broken? I can't program AI to use brave heart on another unit, it just does nothing even when the unit has SP and the spell is unlocked, ally unit > nearest unit > move to unit > cast brave heart, the AI unit does nothing every turn.
I think I can guess why you couldn't get him to appear against BFA. Whenever the game shuffles the party it's essentially putting character slots 1-7 into a predetermined order. The game does this very thing at the start of that fight, which is why you always start with Tidus/Yuna/Auron.
Seymour's theoretical character slot 8 is not accounted for, so he simply disappears. That character slot is only ever called in one fight, and that's Sinspawn Gui 2. This would also be why the game crashes so often. I suspect it would be more stable if the hack *replaced* an existing character with Seymour from the ground up (by changing their model, name, stats, etc.) instead of just calling character slot 8 and confusing the game.
I presume you'd have similar issues hacking Aerith or Beatrix back in as well.
actually betrix and aerith mods are very stable believe it or not, likely due to the fact they were originally programmed as being in the game until they got cut since they both have tons of dialogue already in the files
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This one was fun! I bet the crashes were pretty annoying to deal with
Uh, Primal, while "anarchist" is sort of correct in this situation, I think the word you're looking for is "antagonist." 😁
hes still an anarchist really though
@@Primalliquid92 Eh, in the sense that he's trying to destroy the current status quo that has a bunch of death just happening. Anarchist theory doesn't really have "total human annihilation" as a goal, though. :P
@@dosbilliam that’s what the THEORY says. Collapse the society!
Can't wait to Seymour of your content
da dum tss
I got baited into thinking the most obvious villain in final fantasy history was gonna join the party cause after the fight where you use him, he gets XP on the end screen. I was like "wait... what?? I have to juggle another character???"
Yes! This was my first FF!
Wow each day you learn something new
Holy!! Just had a thought that I should check if you had any new uploads. 46 seconds ago 😁 this is gonna be awesome 😁
Hope you enjoy it!
Lmao as a kid .... I called this guy seymour butts 😂
how hard is it to mod an ffx prequel of jecht, and auron going to the end?
Ooooh, that was fun! Thank you, primal
Any time!
What mods did you use and how did you manage to install them?I have been trying for years to get Seymour in my party.
Gonna guess Beatrix solo? cause i can imagine that will be just as glitchy and probably a lot harder
ooh noted
There IS a mod for ff9 that allows you to recruit beatrix and edits her abilities to make her function like a normal party member, learning seiken and white magic off her armors and swords.
oh nice. i didnt know that one. been out of the loop on ff9 mods
Wild! Always appreciate the work.
thank you!
500 crashes. That's a grind just to keep playing. Thanks for the Vid.
My brother in Christ WHAT DO YOU MEAN use his sphere levels ?
Does the sphere grid even work on him ? Where does he start on it ?
Show us.
usually he starts where khimari does, some mods dont let his grid work and those that do just throw him down there
The ultimate challenge.
Yuna only
Attack only
No sphere grid
No magic
No summons.
what's the song used in the background? i KNOW i've heard it before, but i can't remember what it's called
Honestly, even managing to do everything you did is worthy of.... well I'd say praise, but we all know how madness inducing crashes are and having to basically break the game to outspeed a boss so you aren't insta killed I'd say I more fill pity. All joking aside though, loved the vid.
Im guessing if you used this guy, he would still use items and put in his best ability to win and likely guardians would aid him likely.
Loved the vid, but to be fair you could have just pick up only the agility spheres, to not be AS Op
I have an idea! FFX playthrough, but not able to swap characters at all, inside or outside of combat. Only use the character line-up the game gives you throughout various parts of the story. I bet that would be a fun challenge, the game limiting who you can grind with at any given part of the game.
Could you win using kimahri and the ronsos kimahri fights?
3 ronso party
Omg lmao I love you 😂 how do you drop this while I'm at work 😂 cruel
just means its there for when you finish!
it's a shame we couldn't see a seymour and tidus swap for this
Would have been funny if the seymour boss fights were instead tidus (same moves and ai just a model swap)
i imagine a modder could probably make this happen tbh
Jokes on you! I'm already subscribed
Seymour Butts xDDDDD
So it's not possible to do it with Seymour then since he's not used in all of the game
Can you beat FF12 with Vayne and or Cid only?
saddly dont think theres a mod for this
@Primalliquid92 RIP. If you put up a poll with some choices I'll vote
Excellent use of You're Not Alone.
You're not alone just works everywhere imo
17:08 you are correct, maybe next FF should have 100k max hp but every skill you use instead of draining mp it drains HP.
Kinda like if you use too much characters in naruto, you die.
Would some kind of hyper blue mage Kimahri run where he learns the enemies named attacks as he encounters them be possible? As it stands, his current blue mage abilities are a little underwhelming and I feel he deserves vindication. Thanks for the neat video!
erm kinda? you can use most boss attacks in the game by modding them in as items
Why take the time to mod Seymour into the party but then think that wasting 2 turns at the start of every fight for the whole game is better than moding it just a little further so that dead party members don't auto-rez between each fights ?
Because one of them is possible and the other isn't unless I mod the game after every single cutscene
If you use Anima to fight Seymore in the story, they have a short dialog together.
You nutter. This was insane. :D
Doesn't the escape command remove individual party members? would be easier than killing the party, just flee with not Seymour 1 and 2. Am I wrong?? I always use the skill Flee to get the whole party out
If they fail to run away they might end up staying alive long enough to absorb a key attack, and they can't run away at all in boss fights. Having to take two turns to manually kill them just makes it a bit harder. But I do agree that having them run (or kill themselves/switch weapons until they die) is a legitimate alternative.
This is a new version of listen to my story 😂
Only a grindmonster like primal could attempt something crazy like this. If reincarnation is real you will be reincarnated as the grindiest gears in the universe and will be the most important part of the god machine lol
Just so you know, in the water once Evrae 2 is dead there are no random encounters AFAIR, so you didn't need to use no encounters there
ah well good to know for next time
We get to allow him to become Sin should be our end goal 😂
The true hero of FFX.
Nice work king.
Would have been interesting taking on the post game like this since Seymour can only deal 9999 damage.
But you already leveled up anime a lot, which offsets that.
Which anime are you talking about?
He means Anima and Dark probably could have done alot of the monster arena and maybe dark valefor but that would have been the limit
@@Primalliquid92 Yeah, a solo character without BHPL can't go far on the dark aeons. Dark Valefor is doable (Auto-Life for Energy Blast) and *maybe* Dark Ixion as well, but not Ifrit or Bahamut onward.
Defeat sin? He wants to become sin. 💀
How do I get Seymour on my team
Seymour was awesome to use in the game and I wished he would join party again before things turned for the worst.
Sadly this has bugs as I'd like to use his overdrive, but this run was enjoyable to watch. ❤
Edit: AND this sucks. Cant use him for the Braska's Final Aeon fight.
With Seymour beating FFX (kinda). Does this mean he comes back in FFX-2 as a popstar singing and dancing?
please dont give modders ideas...
I don't know how well that even goes lol
I would like to see a version of Seymour looking even more badass lol
So I only have 1 idea that may of helped did you have a cutscene skip mod because if so that may of bypassed seymour being kicked out of the party also good try but I'm glad you said no you can't beat it because as you said there was just too much jury rigging going on there XD
prediction for next friday...uh...Disgaea without grinding or item world? Chrono Cross without Elements?(bonus challenge; capture all summon elements)
FF8 without Junctions? I'm making an attempt at joking, but seriously, I can't get myself to play it.
@@mimmikibillyI just watched NGPlus do that run.
How do you play as him
Mods.
Finally Final Fantasy again
There is a mod that removes the auto revive and turns off save point healing as well
there is? i couldnt find anything like that
During my first playthrough when he joined the party for the Sin spawn fight i though he was going to be a permanent party member. Either way i wonder if you would have hit max damage had you got a BDL (Break Damage Limit) item on him during the run.
to be fair he could have used the farplane mod to edit his weapon and add BDL to it (yes i have most certainly dabbled in seymour mods myself)
Despite the fact that FFX is one of my favorite games, I haven't tried mods in it. I'll have to look into those. If I can add Jecht that would be awesome.
@@ChaosWindScar99 unfortunately he doesn't have any battle models so its not a thing you can do. what you CAN do with a hex editing table like cheatengine is switch an aeon for his own aeon final boss self and the game doesn't break but thats a whole other bitch in itself, i tried getting cheat engine to do that but my computer goes bonkers with its anti virus and straight up refuses to even let it install and quarantined the file the next day so somethings definitely been attached to it
@@HyperShadow991 Oh well that's unfortunate I'm glad theoretically its possible though. Thanks for the insight either way. I'll have to poke around the mods myself soon.
@@ChaosWindScar99 for sure! currently i am doing a self inspired hard mode using a mod to replace yuna with seymour and the enemy stats are buffed by 30% which i increase by 10% after each major boss so currently at 50% on bikanel but man that wendigo slapped rikku for 9854 damage and my jaw hit the ground
delightfully devilish!
Would have been funny if you could have replaced Tidus' model with Seymour's model lol
Hey primal I'd like to buy a phone case From your merch store and I'm just wondering if you do one for the Sony Xperia 1 iv ?
we do yes! all the phone cases should be together
@@Primalliquid92 thanks
The same crashing happens when you try to summon any aeon during a scripted battle where you’re not allowed to have them at that point. Found that out by hacking my ps2 game lol.
Another fantastic video. Super fun idea, especially with all the other channels that do challenge runs, it's cool to see one that isn't possible without modding. Hope your channel manages to pick up speed again, I'm looking forward to your next videos
thats actually why i started to include some mods mixed in, back when i first started challenges i was the only one really doing them where as now theres been a few times ive been working on something and then somebody else releases the same video so i just have to scrap the idea
@Primalliquid92 Don't scrap a video just because someone else has done it. You're providing more than just the challenge run, you're providing your take on the challenge run and personality as well as editing style.
If everyone had to be perfectly unique on here, 99% of videos would dissappear. It's not like you're a "reaction" channel that just steals other people's content
given how the ff9 trance video went? id actually be better of just scrapping it and starting on a new challenge entirely
@@Primalliquid92 ah yeah, I don't pay attention to metrics. That's too bad, but it seems like you're finding interesting runs none the less
I have a challenge for you: Can the AI beat Dragon Quest XI, with all draconian quests on?
Every character in the game can be set to AI control, even the MC, so is it possible to beat the game without the player actually participating in a battle?
Seymour gets his eternal calm... now lets see if Kuja, The Sorceress, and Sephiroth can beat their games as well!!
saddly i dont think theres any way to play as kuja or the sorceress lol sephiroth maybe has a mod? not sure
@@Primalliquid92 sounds like some modders need to get working haha but this was clearly a fun challenge
I would bet someone has tried the Sephiroth only challenge in FF7, but would bet it could be boring as Sephiroth is normally not controllable in battle.
I feel like the crashes would be harder to deal with than just using Seymour.
Seymour = teammate killer
Sadly this has come up at a time I can't watch it but saved in my watch later list for sure!
enjoy it when you can
I tried to like and comment, but because I had Seymour in my party, it crashed TH-cam
Seymour probably couldn’t show up because the game files had him coded as dead by the final aeon fight
Oh nevermind, he came back. Weird
It's because the start of that fight has a forced party formation (Tidus, Auron, Yuna)