Can You Beat Final Fantasy X Using ONLY Seymour? Challenge Run
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Ah seymour one of the main anarchists in Final Fantasy 10 but can the super villian become the hero? can he save the day and save spira from the devistating sin? can he even be made playable? lets find out!
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You missed the most obvious solution: Name Tidus "Seymour" at the start and beat the game with him.
but then i cant have a video full of problems!
wouldnt be the same. tidus doesnt have the edge lord look or the extreme stalker and creep vibes.
@@Primalliquid92 You could also use a cheat engine table to swap any character model to seymour, like yuna, so you would have the summon skill whithout changing the items. The cheat tables i saw also has a party editor so you can change the party and check the boxes so it will force the character into the party. You can get seymour to be the only party member like that too so you don't have to kill the others
Any FF7 rebirth content getting put out? Trailer breakdown, what we know so far, etc?
@@daniel199692 or use the Seymour pilgrimage mod program or farmland editor to add Seymour to the party without using cheat engine.
"Delightfully devilish, Seymour."
* Walks in. * "Uh!?!"
Awesome video, I love seeing unique and fun challenges like this. Modders keeping old games fresh and fun.
Wakka :But, using mods- that's bad, isn't it?
Maester Seymour Guado : Pretend you didn't see them.
Wakka : Beg your pardon, but *that's* not something a Maester should say!
Maester Seymour Guado : Then pretend I didn't say it.
Wakka : You're kidding!
yea its always an interesting concept
The story plot in my head goes like this.
Seymour after dying while inside Sin watched still as Yuna and her Guardians go on to kill a Final Summons followed by every single Summons and then Yu Yevon which kills Sin.
As Yuna starts her wiggle wiggle dancing Seymour realizes what he missed. The connection of Yuna's Guardians somehow changed fate, changed destiny itself! He should have been a Guardian..
Grabbing onto all the pyreflies as Sin's form starts to explode he rides the wave backwards in time! How? Sin bullshit.
He travels back to when Tidus first appeared in Spira and takes his human form to fit in, following as a Guardian while taking enjoyment of killing himself multiple times for what a idiot he ways.
Oh, and knocking out everyone every chance he gets because petty revenge is still nice.
After he kills Sin and commands Yuna to do the wiggle wiggle he now sits atop of the world in power and awe. He commands this planet with all gleefully following his every word as if he was God.
Yuna? Wiggle wiggle.
i love it haha
Your story is stupid.
Tbh? It's obvious asf he was originally meant to be a guardian but the developers scrapped the idea. There's no freaking way he wasn't originally intended for that. They pulled it and that'd why there are gaps in the game with him but at the same time he obviously gets SL points and gains experience plus he wears armor and weapon like the rest of the party.
@@60wwediva meh. Sephiroth in 1997 FF7 also had equipped armour, weaponry and gained exp after his fight against the dragon alongside Cloud, yet the devs made it clear he was supposed to be the antagonist all along. So I don't really think your logic works here :/
@@fancypotato1873The only way to confirm would be to hack into the data files of both games.
Absolutely loving the use of "You're Not Alone" as background music during a solo run lmao
That's the song he uses for all of these videos
That 6hp left on Yunalesca is the biggest middle finger to 9999 damage LoL!
12:30 there is a particular fight in FFT where not having enough speed will make progress impossible unless rafa gets confused and doesn't rush to her death
This is an awesome video. more love for seymour is always appreciated.
wanted to do something a little different and to start incorperating mods into the runs to make them more unique since challenge runs are becoming more and more common now wanna try to avoid problems like the FF9 trance one where me and NG+ were working on the same run at the same time
@@Primalliquid92 That's certainly a good idea. As is the idea for this run.
It makes sense that Seymour's not programmed to healed by save points since he isn't normally playable outside of battles and doesn't have a true slot in the party. The save point logic probably goes "heal Tidus, Yuna, Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri, Auron and Rikku" instead of doing a blanket "heal party".
I read something that FFX's battle engine can't handle two of the same aeon models on the field at once and so dies if you try forcing it. Too many polygons maybe?
I highly doubt it's a polygon issue, because you can summon the normal version of an Aeon during a Dark Aeon fight, so it's much much more likely to be a scripting issue. I don't have first hand experience of how the FFX code works, so I could be off base, but it probably uses the exact same character model and coding for the enemy summons, and instead of having a way to differentiate between allied and enemy it just disables your ability to summon that Aeon to make the coding easier. I would also assume the only reason you can have two Seymours in the same battle is that each instance has a unique character ID, and this one is probably a modified version of the Mushroom Rock Seymour.
Being that Seymour is immune to practically all status effects during his boss fights, I guess maybe the playable version of him also shares those resistances? I've seen modded games before where Seymour is able to use provoke against the party during his boss fight in Macalania, and he has a unique animation for using it, which makes me think that the "enemy" version of Seymour is largely the same as the playable version of him. If memory serves, he's only vulnerable to Poison in his boss fights, and is immune to almost everything else. Odds are that the playable version for Seymour was never given much time to be balanced correctly, since he's only used in one fight normally, and so they used the enemy version of him as a baseline for the playable version. If that's true, then it's probably the reason why you're noticing him being immune to things like Petrification, Berserk, Zombie, etc. Only exception to this seems to be Death, but since Anima's Pain bypasses resistances, maybe his immunity to Death isn't factored in.
yea i honestly have no idea what was going on, its a pretty janky mod/addition really so its understandable its not programmed properly since unlike with beatrix in FF9, seymour was never meant to be in the party and then cut
@@Primalliquid92 FF9 with only Beatrix sounds like fun.
@@Primalliquid92 Yuna has a hidden unique animation as well that never makes it into the game. Use FFXED editor and in the items, make one of the abilities that is called Tetra flare ( I forgot the entire ame but it's def tetra, a movie from the spectral keeper from zanarkand trials) and have Yuna use that item move then she does a different type of summon dance then cats the spell.
@@Primalliquid92I also believe Seymour was initially at one point meant to become a longer temporary party member or a guardian but they completely changed their minds and this is why for instance he gains experience as well s SL points
Anima's Pain doesn't bypass resistances. Aeons aren't insta-killed by it, and if you hack Deathproof then your regular characters won't be either. Only Dark Anima's version of Pain ignores all immunity.
It'll have something to do with Seymour's weapon or armor having an invisible ability that grants a bunch of properties (likely including immunities, just not death). Aeons work this way too. That's where they get their Ribbon-like immunity and even protection against things like eject and the four breaks.
im happy to start getting this style of videos again!
More to come!
4:50 for the start
Seymour content is always fantastic
indeed it is
About time he gets love!
Missed an opportunity with Seymour Natus where he didn't have to worry bout seeing mour seymour.
It would be cool if you were also able to use his other forms after dying
Primal thank you so much for working so hard on amazing content. Getting a notification for one of your uploads always brightens my day. I hope that you are doing well!
This looked to be one frustrating challenge! Nice job. Can't believe that 9999 on Yunalesca when she had only 6hp left didn't give an Overkill!
Uh, Primal, while "anarchist" is sort of correct in this situation, I think the word you're looking for is "antagonist." 😁
hes still an anarchist really though
@@Primalliquid92 Eh, in the sense that he's trying to destroy the current status quo that has a bunch of death just happening. Anarchist theory doesn't really have "total human annihilation" as a goal, though. :P
@@dosbilliam that’s what the THEORY says. Collapse the society!
This was very entertaining despite going sideways so hard. Came her from the "Can you beat FF VII with Sephiroth" vid and I'm sad that one glitched out so bad :/
I think I can guess why you couldn't get him to appear against BFA. Whenever the game shuffles the party it's essentially putting character slots 1-7 into a predetermined order. The game does this very thing at the start of that fight, which is why you always start with Tidus/Yuna/Auron.
Seymour's theoretical character slot 8 is not accounted for, so he simply disappears. That character slot is only ever called in one fight, and that's Sinspawn Gui 2. This would also be why the game crashes so often. I suspect it would be more stable if the hack *replaced* an existing character with Seymour from the ground up (by changing their model, name, stats, etc.) instead of just calling character slot 8 and confusing the game.
I presume you'd have similar issues hacking Aerith or Beatrix back in as well.
actually betrix and aerith mods are very stable believe it or not, likely due to the fact they were originally programmed as being in the game until they got cut since they both have tons of dialogue already in the files
The grind you do for videos so is unreal
15:14 Anyone else hear PrimalLiquid say the PP word? 🤣
Great video as always bud, loved this challenge!
shhh haha
Gonna guess Beatrix solo? cause i can imagine that will be just as glitchy and probably a lot harder
ooh noted
There IS a mod for ff9 that allows you to recruit beatrix and edits her abilities to make her function like a normal party member, learning seiken and white magic off her armors and swords.
oh nice. i didnt know that one. been out of the loop on ff9 mods
Yes! This was my first FF!
Okay, opening with ff9 "you are not alone" hits me like a truck
its like my calling card at this point haha
Ff9 ost best girl
Seymour would use items.
And then pretend he didn't.
@@jackson3475 excuse me Jackson, but that doesn't sound like something a TH-cam commenter should say.
I'm not even 2 minutes in, yet I must say that I couldn't even focus on your explanation at all because the FFIX music track (You're not alone) just occupied my brain with too many deeply rooted emotions.
Well, now after listening to this song several times again, endulging in precious memories, I'll finally go back to the start of your video to concentrate on this interesting challenge run. Sorry but this music is just too good to ignore!
Defeat sin? He wants to become sin. 💀
Why take the time to mod Seymour into the party but then think that wasting 2 turns at the start of every fight for the whole game is better than moding it just a little further so that dead party members don't auto-rez between each fights ?
Because one of them is possible and the other isn't unless I mod the game after every single cutscene
Im guessing if you used this guy, he would still use items and put in his best ability to win and likely guardians would aid him likely.
short answer yes.
long answer most definitely
It's like asking if you can beat FF7 with only Sephiroth. No shit you can.
seymour t posing while fighting evrae is everything
I don;t see how this is a challenge, Seymour was absolute op when we got to use him in the 1st place.
I'm a long time fan. Primal. Keep this up.
"Can You Beat Final Fantasy X Using ONLY Seymour?" No you can not as he is NOT a playable char.
it's a shame we couldn't see a seymour and tidus swap for this
Would have been funny if the seymour boss fights were instead tidus (same moves and ai just a model swap)
i imagine a modder could probably make this happen tbh
Can't wait to Seymour of your content
da dum tss
The same crashing happens when you try to summon any aeon during a scripted battle where you’re not allowed to have them at that point. Found that out by hacking my ps2 game lol.
I would love to Seymour Guado in your videos
IDK you already decided to mod Seymor into the Game, so making exceptions for Areas he shouldnt be feels kinda cheap o.o
Seriously get a life.
Aww look a little Snowflake, tries to troll sweet :D
I tried to like and comment, but because I had Seymour in my party, it crashed TH-cam
FFX challenge video? Oh yeah, I’m tuning back in.
5:34 I imagine it's because the code is fixed on the 7 actual party members and the 8 (10, Magus Sisters) available Aeons, meaning it will go by Character ID (e.g. Tidus being a fixed ID 01, or Valefor being a fixed 08) and checking if Tidus/01's HP = his max HP, if not copy his max HP to his current HP and so on. It may skip that check for Seymour or any other character that isn't within that case-check.
Of course, I dunno the source code, however given it was 1999-2001 when they coded this I imagine it was easier to just do a loop that goes through the numbers 1 to 17 (or 0 to 16) and perform the heal on the given ID, instead of hardcoding it for everyone; and going from 0-XX for any additional story-only character like Seymour is something redundant anyway, why have the machine perform it
Would have been funny if you could have replaced Tidus' model with Seymour's model lol
You are a sucker for punishment. I love it. Thanks for the great content.
I have an idea! FFX playthrough, but not able to swap characters at all, inside or outside of combat. Only use the character line-up the game gives you throughout various parts of the story. I bet that would be a fun challenge, the game limiting who you can grind with at any given part of the game.
on the ps2 you can play through the game with seymour, I had this cheat cd(exploder I think its called) which lets you play as seymour and it worked great.
thats not seymour, it just replaces khimaris model, i had the same thing
no it actully had a playable seymour option, because i could use all other charaters with him as well. maybe it was an other cheatdevice, loved the vid, keep up the good work @@Primalliquid92
500 crashes. That's a grind just to keep playing. Thanks for the Vid.
The true hero of FFX.
Here's your comment with your like 😊. Was gonna like anyway for the lovely looping FF9 track along with answering a question I asked, but am now a better person for knowing 😂.
Excellent use of You're Not Alone.
You're not alone just works everywhere imo
Just so you know, in the water once Evrae 2 is dead there are no random encounters AFAIR, so you didn't need to use no encounters there
ah well good to know for next time
17:08 you are correct, maybe next FF should have 100k max hp but every skill you use instead of draining mp it drains HP.
Kinda like if you use too much characters in naruto, you die.
hey prime, on disgaea 7 is the AI logic broken? I can't program AI to use brave heart on another unit, it just does nothing even when the unit has SP and the spell is unlocked, ally unit > nearest unit > move to unit > cast brave heart, the AI unit does nothing every turn.
Suddenly Seymore
Lmao as a kid .... I called this guy seymour butts 😂
Holy!! Just had a thought that I should check if you had any new uploads. 46 seconds ago 😁 this is gonna be awesome 😁
Hope you enjoy it!
prediction for next friday...uh...Disgaea without grinding or item world? Chrono Cross without Elements?(bonus challenge; capture all summon elements)
FF8 without Junctions? I'm making an attempt at joking, but seriously, I can't get myself to play it.
@@mimmikibillyI just watched NGPlus do that run.
Seymour was awesome to use in the game and I wished he would join party again before things turned for the worst.
Sadly this has bugs as I'd like to use his overdrive, but this run was enjoyable to watch. ❤
Edit: AND this sucks. Cant use him for the Braska's Final Aeon fight.
Seymour probably couldn’t show up because the game files had him coded as dead by the final aeon fight
Oh nevermind, he came back. Weird
It's because the start of that fight has a forced party formation (Tidus, Auron, Yuna)
Only a grindmonster like primal could attempt something crazy like this. If reincarnation is real you will be reincarnated as the grindiest gears in the universe and will be the most important part of the god machine lol
can you beat final fantasy X using only a sponge and a pack of cheese
We get to allow him to become Sin should be our end goal 😂
Wow each day you learn something new
Wild! Always appreciate the work.
thank you!
15:15 Anima O'Penis is now her canonical full name
Repeat after me: Evrae AL-TA-NA
no.
unless you mod the game.
then it's not the game, it's the modded game.
in which case the title is inaccurate.
People who mod games to attempt level 1 runs:"We want to know your location, sir."
I guess you can say it ended with Mommy vs Daddy.
Spoiler alert ahead:
Id love to see just how powerful you can get in Xenoblade chronicles 2 after you "escape" rescuing Nia. You can rescue her and then jump out the back of the ship and go about your business before finishing the mission and I wonder how powerful you could get before returning.
I have a challenge for you: Can the AI beat Dragon Quest XI, with all draconian quests on?
Every character in the game can be set to AI control, even the MC, so is it possible to beat the game without the player actually participating in a battle?
Why no items.. that just makes it totally impossibe and pointless. If regular chars can use items why wouldnt seymour.
Oh but look, he did it anyway
@@MaxisBallinonaBudget I agree with you , but I think it’s just a way of taking “beat the game with just Seymour” as literally as he can
Ah yes, another challenge titled can i beat the game by overgrinding being extremly broken and not even trying to hide it.
1
Seymour never have acces to curaga.
2. Completing rikku and tidus sphere grid to outspeed anima would never give you that much strengh amd defence.
I would literally be sick by playing a challenge and then become super powerful early game its just trivial.
Please do a postgame seymour only
Funfact evrae Atlanta is actually called evrae altana.
But everybody always says Atlanta, me included until I found out. Now I can't unsee
wait what, now i need to go double check
Everybody? 😅 Dude, this is the first time in 10+ years of watching FFX content extensively that I heard "Atlanta"
Seymour = teammate killer
I mean, you're hacking the game, the win should be pretty freaking easy since you already broke it....
modding a character doesnt give permission to mod EVERYTHING else
Heard seymour so many times it started to sound funny
dont you just hate when a word loses all meaning like that
Finally Final Fantasy again
Seymour Butts xDDDDD
Love the ff9 music
So it's not possible to do it with Seymour then since he's not used in all of the game
There is a mod that removes the auto revive and turns off save point healing as well
there is? i couldnt find anything like that
Omg lmao I love you 😂 how do you drop this while I'm at work 😂 cruel
just means its there for when you finish!
I enjoyed this. I'd be interested in seeing other FF games with the same concept.
saddly mods for playable characters are quite limited
@@Primalliquid92You miiiiiiight be able to hijack some of the randomizers for the earlier FF games to get basically the same thing? 4 and 6 should be... uh, well, as possible as you can get with the forced party member usage both have. 6 needs 3 members in the endgame (unless you want to just copy the same character 3x which would be kind of funny, if it's possible) and 4 likes its cutscene fights. Not sure how that'd work out.
Interesting! Anima always scare the shit outta me.
whats wrong with anima? :(
@@Primalliquid92Looks super scary to me. The eyes and the teeth, and the bondage. Also, suffering enemies to death. It's freaky how it's really Seymour's mother!
This is a new version of listen to my story 😂
Beat FFVII using only Aerith
I believe the Anima AI is programmed to use Pain if there is 1 non-aeon character opposing it.
possible? ive never actually looked into it
@@Primalliquid92 so looking into an AI guide. Anima will follow the action tree of Pain/boost on turn 1 (50% chance) then follow up with pain, then boost, then pain/boost. Rinse repeat until overdrive is full.
you used the farplane mod for getting seymour in didn't you?
edit: HAHA I KNEW IT!!!! i did the same thing to have a run with seymour in the party
also farplane tool just allows you to add him as an extra party member straight up but he has no sphere grid as a consequence. likewise you could have just used the seymour reborn mod which has him completely replace yuna so anima's stats would be tied to him
That sounded like a painful journey 😅
oh it was, all the bugs were oof
Jokes on you! I'm already subscribed
Can he beat a modded game!?! Yes, because mods😂
My brother in Christ WHAT DO YOU MEAN use his sphere levels ?
Does the sphere grid even work on him ? Where does he start on it ?
Show us.
usually he starts where khimari does, some mods dont let his grid work and those that do just throw him down there
Couldn't you just get the party members to kill thenselves/each other?
Can you Beat Tactic only using Ramza.
delightfully devilish!
if we're using a mod to let us use seymour why not use a mod to auto kill the two teammates too? seems unfair to poor seymour to waste his first actions killing friendlies
I am sooo disappointed with the ffx moding community not creating a swim animation and fixing glitches