Anglican Unscripted 815 - Israel on the Edge
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This is a very objective discussion of the current state and ethos of modern Israel. Thanks very much!
Thank you for bringing us up-to-date on this important subject for our prayers.
That was a very informative video. Thanks for posting it.
Thank you, God bless you
Impressed with how graciously the speaker dealt with Kevin’s unfamiliarity with the subject. This interview was a good insight into the situation right now in Israel. Just goes to show how important the way we interpret scripture is. (Did God promise Palestine to the Jewish people exclusively for ever? Does God condemn homosexual acts? A simplistic reading would answer yes to both questions and you’d be wrong on both counts.) As the interviewee concluded- unless you yourself have studied these matters don’t express an opinion. And if you want to, go get educated. (And getting educated means honestly considering the opinions of those with whom you disagree. We’re not very good at that.)
Was not the collision voted in saying they would bring in judicial reform so have a democratic mandate to bring this in.
This was a really excellent interview, I would love to know more about the demographic and political-ideology make-up of Christ Church
Just started. Looking forward to this one. Edit: this is not going in the direction I thought it was going.
1. There's no Pileggian heresy here, why it's not even Pelagian, so I award one blue star to David composed of two intersecting triangles.
2. Since Anglicans, whether scripted or unscripted, love a good show, perhaps in support of David's prayer intentions they might contemplate the lyrics to Sir Hubert Parry's anthem I Was Glad based on Psalm 122 while listening to the recent Brit Brit youtube video titled I Was Glad - Coronation Anthem - King Charles III Arrives at Westminster Abbey:
"I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord.
Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:
Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord.
For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.
For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.
Because of the house of the Lord our God I will seek thy good."
3. After all, did not the modern nation of Israel arise from the British Mandatory Palestine of 1920-48 that was officially established by a 1922 League of Nations mandate?
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“Extremism” and “ultra” are highly subjective. I don’t have a dog in this fight except to hope for order & concord. But the labels are usually applied by the self-ordained mediators. Don’t get me wrong: extremism exists. But it’s become devoid of meaning .
I would have thought that seeking apartheid can legitimately be labelled extremist.
He lost me when he said that "cheap populism" was not welcome. These days, populism and being a populist is very expensive in terms of your life and livelihood.
Kevin you need to shed your dispensationalist presuppositions and explore what Anglicans and Christendom in general everywhere and always believed about the relationship between the Church and Israel.
How do you understand Matthew 27:24-25 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.?
Yes, the first to believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah were Israelites- Andrew, Peter, James, John. But in the Gospels, we also hear Jesus speak of building His church, and we see growing hostility between the leaders of Israel and Jesus. We hear Jesus speak of destroying the tenants of the vineyard and giving it to others (Luke 20:9-18). In the book of Acts, the spread of the gospel to the Samaritans and gentiles leads to even more conflict with the religious leaders of Israel. So, is the nation of Israel cast aside and replaced by this new entity known as the “church”? Asked another way is the New Covenant Israel of God His Church?
Yes the Bible also hints that God is not finished with the nation of Israel. At the end of His declaration of woes on the scribes and Pharisees, Jesus says, “You will not see me again, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who cometh in the name of the Lord’ ” (Matt. 23:39). In the Olivet Discourse, He speaks of Jerusalem being trampled underfoot “until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled” (Luke 21:24). In Acts, Peter says to a Jewish audience: Acts 3:19-21 "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."
Paul says things about Israel that seem to preclude total rejection. Speaking of Israel, he writes, Romans 11:1 "I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin."
The answer is that the true Israel of the Old Testament became the nucleus of the true church on the day of Pentecost. Here the analogy of the olive tree that Paul uses in Romans 11 is instructive. The tree represents the covenant people of God-Israel. Paul compares unbelieving Israel to branches that have been broken off from the olive tree. Believing gentiles are compared to branches from a wild olive tree that have been grafted in to the cultivated olive tree [Romans 11:17-19]. The important point to notice is that God does not cut the old tree down and plant a new one. Neither does God plant a second new tree alongside the old tree and then graft branches from the old tree into the new tree. Instead, the same tree exists across the divide between Old and New Testaments. That which remains after the dead branches are removed is the true Israel. Gentile believers are now grafted into this already existing old tree. The true Israel of God=the true church. There is only one good olive tree, and the same olive tree exists across the Covenantal divide.
The relationship between Israel and the church in the New Testament may not be always easy to discern, but it can be understood if we remember the differences between national Israel and true Israel in both the Old Testament and the New, and if we keep in mind what Paul teaches in Romans 11. Israel’s present hardening has a purpose in God’s plan, but this hardening is not permanent. The future restoration of the nation of Israel will involve their re-grafting into the olive tree, the one people of God. The restoration of Israel will mean their becoming part of the “true Israel” by faith in Jesus Christ the Messiah.
But you are tainted with dispensationalism. That is why you disparaged the Rev. Stephen Sizer for teaching this.
Stephen Sizer was an antisemite and was rightly dismissed from the ministry for 12 years
Arabs are semitic as well. Not sure why there's so much discord amongst brothers. Noah, shem all that.
BTW I'm saying this as a goy. I'm not from earth.