In the comics, Dr. Doom is the beloved king of a small eastern European nation who is also a genius, wants to take over the world, and walks around in a metal suit unironically shouting "I AM DOOM!" Why the hell would you ever change anything about that character?
They could have committed to the Cronenberg body horror back story and the sequels are them trying to include humor and camp to rehumanize themselves and gain social acceptance
@@rhetiq9989 yeah its funny because "tom cruise is in it" can basicly sum up some movies entirely lol its like thats all they have. This type of movie would be good to refer to this way. Like jack and jill is that adam sandler movie. Nuff said
Remember that they also wanted to make a cinematic universe from the Fantastic Four and the X-Men before Disney bought them up. Which, honestly, Josh Trank's original script might have been more conducive to that kind of idea, but they fucked it all up. And then Disney sucked them up, so at least this property might be put to proper use now, unlike X-Men which will be so awkward no matter how they try and handle it.
***** Incredible isn't like FF at all really. The only comparison people can really make is the super powers, there's 4 of them and that both are family orientated. FF is all about men and a woman assuming the role of super powered beings and going public and becoming world famous super hero icons. The incredibles are about super heroes taking the roles of everyday people trying to fit in with society. Almost nothing about their relationship dynamic and background are at all the same. I will say Dash does share a little similarities to Johnny Storm, but nothing too noticeable Nothing about their stories/adventures, characters, character interaction, family dynamic, or live as a whole is similar to FF. As a matter of fact I challenge you to state ways they are similar besides what I pointed out. You can't slap the FF characters faces on the incredibles and say it's a perfect adaptation.
***** "is still more faithful as an adaptation than the actual Fantastic Four films' The Incredibles are an original concept and like you said it borrowed from other great works of fiction. So it's not an adaption. It's easy to create completely new ideas, because fans won't whine about the source material. However these FF movies are god awful I think we all agree.
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Travis Maz Perhaps. It's not one of the normal producer creds though. But Matthew Vaughn was a normal producer on the movie, which makes me believe that there was once a much better version of this movie.
I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but this film was based on Ultimate Fantastic Four, which definitely had body horror elements, rather than the 616 team.
Fantastic Four needs to be set in a colorful, swinging 60s - campy but updated technical stuff - a la Austin Powers. Campy, cheesy, colorful and fun. (not that they weren't handled perfectly by Venture Bros).
As a fan of the original comics, a dark Fantastic Four movie is sort of like a drinking cup/pasta strainer combo. However, I completely agree that IF you want to do that, you have to fully commit or it falls apart entirely. This could have been a weird but interesting film but it really seems like the studio killed it. Another Suicide Squad situation. If you're doing something bold, man up and jump in with both feet; otherwise, it'll definetly fail.
Now that they mention this point about body horror, the Fantastic 4 COULD maybe work as a real, Cronenberg-esque body horror film: every character's power in this team has some physical element to it: three of them directly involve mutation or mutilation of the skin and bones. Contrast this against other Marvel superhero teams, where the powers are mostly mental (Iron Man's supersmarts, Professor X's mind reading), elemental (Magneto's metal control, Storm's..... storms) or magical (Thor's powers).
This movie pissed me off, because I was actually excited for it and it ended up being a pile of shit. I even kinda liked it in the beginning, and was thinking "Man, why was everyone so angry about this?" Then I found out.
Aaron Large that was sort of like die another day for me, it started okay then when they get to the ice palace, this movie became one of the worst movies ever and i ended up feeling sick about the movie for a few hours
This movie came out before I had discovered a network for movie related news, so while I had heard bad things I didn’t know the extent or reasoning behind why people didn’t like this film. I figured it wasn’t for everybody. Walked into the theater excited and left feeling like I should ask for my money back. Now I don’t see films without first doing my due diligence.
It's so fucking bizarre to see someone discuss this movie like functioning adults. Where's the hyperbole?! Where's the claims that this movie ruined your life?! What the fuck is going on?!
Joshua Campbell Agree nice to see they dont just jump on the bandwagon, and gave the movie it's day in court, instead of a screaming review like chris stuckmann
+TheTrueChuster This comment was pasted on every goddamn review I ever saw of this movie but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you came up with it first.
I didn't even realize this movie actually came out, I remember hearing a controversy about a black torch, but just assumed it got cancelled because I never saw an ad or commercial for it. Huh, so that's the power of advertising.
It’s interesting to hear Mike say it’s tough to know what to do with Fantastic Four when the obvious answer is “Star Trek”. Exploration and problem solving are at the core of Fantastic Four too. Whether or not that would be successful, different story.
j Hughes The point isn't them being the same, silly sausage, the point is that The Incredibles is the closest thing there's ever been to a decent Fantastic Four movie. The Incredibles is only vaguely similar to the Fantastic Four, it's just that every Fantastic Four movie is so bad in comparison to The Incredibles that there's more similarity between The Incredibles and a hypothetical good Fantastic Four movie than there is between any existing Fantastic Four move and that hypothetical good one. I would have thought this was implicit.
I mean I think whiplash is one of the best movies I've ever seen. It makes me feel like crap to watch it because ill never work that hard at anything, but it's so good
The issue with this movie isn't how dark they wanted it to be, and the issue with the 2005 movie isn't how silly it tried to be. Both interpretations can make good films, you just also have to execute it well with a good story and interesting characters. I think it's a little ridiculous to think superhero fans can't handle something a little different given how many different stories have been told in comic books, it just needs to be done well.
Chris K You say that as though it's an objective fact. I think declaring one movie as "the best" is ultimately stupid and meaningless. It's great, but Birdman, Boyhood, Grand Budapest Hotel and Nightcrawler were all just as good. I would even say Mr. Turner, The Babadook, Wild, Gloria, Leviathan and several others are just as good. Though from the movies I just named I think Mike and Jay have seen less than half of them. It's actually getting annoying how much they claim to defend the artistry of cinema, and then they never see any artistic films. Every year there's at least 20 or so truly great artistic films, and they only see 3 or 4 that reached mainstream popularity. But they're always sure to see EVERY major blockbuster and do a full review on it.
Do you guys have anything intelligent or original to say? You just repeat all of RLM's opinions over and over again like parrots. It's annoying and childish. I have literally never seen an intelligent discussion on any of their videos or on their website. 95% of comments just quote the video, say how terrible new movies are, quote their Star Wars review, or say "It took 12 years to make." In the 5% of comments where someone tries to make a point, have a discussion, or disagrees, he is replied with quotes from the video, quotes from the Star Wars review, or quotes from their ridiculous Boyhood review. Please try to form an original thought.
I think the biggest problem for the movie was that it was a solid hour in before they were even introduced to their super powers. The first act was an hour long, then the second and third acts were the remaining 40 minutes.
***** Not much of one. It's like they spent a few minutes going over the "Cliff notes" for act two, then went into the last 20 minutes of "introduction to" then immediate "resolution of" Dr. Doom.
I wish they stuck with the science tone, would've been really original since no superhero movie really elaborates on the Metta. Their lack of a consistent, strong tone have people like me ( science/sci-fi nerd) and you (only wanna see superpowers) disappointed :(
LyingPrauses Only wanna see superpowers? That's a lot of assumption. I would have really enjoyed a strong sci-fi version of this movie as well, but the movie really didn't have any science fiction either. There was a small bit of "scientifical" gibberish about interdimensional travel that takes you to a planet containing "energy"... that has "power"... and nothing more specific than that. The first hour of the movie does not contain any more science fiction than it contains character development. It was a solid hour of plot mechanics to get you to the fight at the end. It was just bad all around.
Diego Carnaval The dude had a mental breakdown on 4chan. He spent most of the shoot high as a kite or drunk as fuck. He totally trashed the luxurious accomidations for him causeing $100K in damages. Spilled spaghetti all over Twitter. Abused staff members. He gave Michael B. Jordan the role of Johnny Storm out of fucking cronyism. He threatened to beat up Jeff Sneider for exposing what a fucking turd Trank is. Most of what made Chronicle good was the work of Max Landis. He's burned bridges and shown that he's nothing but a worthless fuck up. Fuck him.
Diego Carnaval Most of the on-set meltdown stories sound like your typical made-up sensationalism, but I'd bet that if your movie had been mutilated by the studio 90% of the commenters here would've got drunk and smashed shit too.
You have to give them credit for consistently ruining Doom’s origin. He’s not a biofreak. He’s a scientist, expert magician and leader of a sovereign nation, his willpower is so strong he marches into Hell to pimp slap the devil demanding that Doom’s mother is released and he gets away with it
DR DOOM IS NOT A GENERIC SLASHER VILLAIN. Trank could invent your own villain if he wanted to, but this was NOT Dr Doom! Not that I liked Man of Steel that much, but when Zack Snyder changes the lore and tone of Superman, Mike craps on it. But when Josh Trank does the same thing with Fant4stick, suddenly it's okay and admirable? We really needed Rich on this review, he would've known what's up! I'm with Cinema Snob on this one.
They clearly didn't like the movie. It's less to do with the tone being off and more to do with the fact that the whole movie is such a dud that it's hard to get up in arms about it. I agree the mass killing from doom was out of place, but I still left the theatre struggling to care and just having sympathy for the whole thing.
Most accurate thing said was right in the beginning. Doctor Doom is an amazing character in the comics. Maybe one day he can get that Joker level treatment and the complexity of the character can be captured onscreen.
@@Bit2brain But then what's the point, right? If we call him Victor the entire time, doesn't that kinda remove part of his appeal? Yeah, it's goofy, but so are the Fantastic 4.
@@Miriam_J_ Keep some mystery and emphasis on the evolution of the character until the big reveal at the end. How it’s put on screen is more important than just calling him Doctor Doom for two hours.
Not too sound sappy, but today is my Birthday, I went to my favorite pub Hair of the Dog then to a Sanders rallly then came home for a night cap and saw a new redletter media. Just want to say Love the hard work you all put into these .
Yijuwarp Being true to the comics doesn't matter. It's a very small number of people who know. A even smaller number cares. And they are going regardless. The studios just need to stop putting all their money on random focus groups.
Nah, they just know the brand. I'm sure less than a percentile of people that watch comic book movies ever read any of the comics. They just know it exists and that's good enough. Even if they've ever read a single comic, the ridiculous amounts of different versions don't make much sense. All ya gotta do is a good movie, but they don't do that either.
You can make something cool even though it's goofy. Monkey D. Luffy has great moments where he asserts himself as a character with authority and integrity while stretching his arms, legs, and even neck, during fights with cat-people, droopy-ear lobed Eminem look-alikes, and flamboyantly dressed flamingos. It's all about the contrasts. You do the goofy stretchy guy, and then you put him in a situation where he needs to rise to the challenge, and then you make him explode with competency. The problem with doing semi-realistic, gritty stretch guy is that there's not contrast in the character since he goes from bland normal guy to silly stretchy guy.
There were giant chunks ripped out! Fox took out three large action set pieces before filming even began. Then they locked Trank out of the editing room and reshot much of the last act
Every now and then I check back to try and watch this review, because the audio issues have kept me from watching it. They still aren’t fixed. It’s been years. I think I need to let it go 😂
As a comics reader, this sort of thing is really frustrating for me. The Fantastic Four CAN be fun and CAN be well written, and Doctor Doom alone is a fantastic character with a long and storied history with some amazing high points (he's basically become God twice now). The problem is that they're only ever interested in writing the origin story, and never want to deviate into anything else--and they're so desperate to be liked, that they refuse either make Reed the know it all asshole he is in the comics OR just go in the opposite direction and completely embrace the silliness inherent in these characters' powers and like 90% of their villains (one of their villains leads an army of mole people for fuck's sake, have fun with it), and turn it into a light-hearted thing, because that's too big of a risk. Basically, Fantastic Four movies suck not because the necessarily bad, but because they're hard to adapt when you have no sense of creativity. Also, Doctor Doom is awesome, if you take nothing else out of this, just understand that.
I think this review is why I love Red Letter Media so much. They actually sat down and broke the movie down like adults instead of screaming and jumping on bandwagon to hate on it for the sake of it. *COUGH COUGH* STUCKMANN! *COUGH COUGH*.
Damn it's only Josh's 2nd major film. Hope the next thing he makes, he gets more control over the final cut. There's so many great things about chronicle it was definitely not a fluke.
***** This video shows why I really Like RLM. I also like Chris Stuckmann but I think he went way over the top with his review. The film isn't a total mess, and RLM does sympathise with Trank and see the good points in the movie.
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In the comics, Dr. Doom is the beloved king of a small eastern European nation who is also a genius, wants to take over the world, and walks around in a metal suit unironically shouting "I AM DOOM!"
Why the hell would you ever change anything about that character?
Compulsive makeover syndrome
Because he sounds like every edgelord's fantasy?
@@thetrustysidekick3013 But he wears bright green. There's no dark in his outfit to speak of
@@Ryu1ify his colorful cape is the only thing keeping him from completely embodying the stereotype
He’s a good rapper too
That noise is from Jay's brain malfunctioning trying to understand what happened to this movie.
Guess you could say the jigsaws didn’t quite fall into place for this film.
Oh thank god someone else hears it. I thought it was my new headset
@@superclarendon8648 That comment is All I Need
i certainly won't be getting this movie on Videotape
@@saaaaaakkkkkkkkkkeee same holy shit
I like how they keep referring to them as the “Josh Trank movie”, the “Roger Corman movie”, and... the “Jessica Alba movie”
They could have committed to the Cronenberg body horror back story and the sequels are them trying to include humor and camp to rehumanize themselves and gain social acceptance
Parker Avery did you just randomly pick any comment to type this for
Holy fuck this got me.
They didn’t even bother with the actual name of the Jessica Alba movies director
@@rhetiq9989 yeah its funny because "tom cruise is in it" can basicly sum up some movies entirely lol its like thats all they have.
This type of movie would be good to refer to this way.
Like jack and jill is that adam sandler movie. Nuff said
Miles Teller playing drums like reed richards while J.K Simmons yells "PARKER!!" in a Dr. Doom costume is the best visual ever.
If any clip of Redlettermedia deserves an animated version, it's that
Oh god whose tea kettle is about to explode every time Jay talks!!
It's stylistically designed that way.
classic what are you doing here?
I'm so glad you said something I thought I was going nuts
@@MyThoughtsBelow but we can diminish the effects of it?
r/myearballs
I think more people saw this video than Fantastic Four.
Well, it has better acting, better script and even better villain (Fant4stic movie itself).
My fucking ears
@@tiyenin my big rat booty
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Without a doubt
Whiplash, Birdman, Nightcrawler...how many fucking comic book movies do they need to make?!
+Plaguesque /sarcasm
All of those movies have the same names as comic book characters even though they have almost nothing in common.
Have you ever seen Dr Strangelove?
Worst comicbook film I've ever seen.
He didn't even have a superpower!
64PageSpecial And Colin Firth was rubbish in Gambit. He didn't even have a Cajun accent.
twon 1610 I thought he had super healing. Didn't you see the ending?
Jay Jimenez That's the joke.
The main problem is that this movie was made for one reason and one reason only - to keep the rights from reverting to Marvel.
Would have worked if Disney hadn't bought fox 🤣
Remember that they also wanted to make a cinematic universe from the Fantastic Four and the X-Men before Disney bought them up. Which, honestly, Josh Trank's original script might have been more conducive to that kind of idea, but they fucked it all up. And then Disney sucked them up, so at least this property might be put to proper use now, unlike X-Men which will be so awkward no matter how they try and handle it.
@@ManOutofTime913 X-meng days of future pants was pretty good
@@airgunny7416 I never implied it wasn't...?
@@ManOutofTime913 are you really implying that any of disney's properties have been put to "proper use" recently?
FIX JAYS MIC YOU HACK FRAUDS
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They already made a good Fantastic Four movie, they just called it The Incredibles instead.
*****
Incredible isn't like FF at all really. The only comparison people can really make is the super powers, there's 4 of them and that both are family orientated. FF is all about men and a woman assuming the role of super powered beings and going public and becoming world famous super hero icons. The incredibles are about super heroes taking the roles of everyday people trying to fit in with society. Almost nothing about their relationship dynamic and background are at all the same. I will say Dash does share a little similarities to Johnny Storm, but nothing too noticeable
Nothing about their stories/adventures, characters, character interaction, family dynamic, or live as a whole is similar to FF. As a matter of fact I challenge you to state ways they are similar besides what I pointed out. You can't slap the FF characters faces on the incredibles and say it's a perfect adaptation.
***** I was being facetious, mostly because I've seen so many people say The Incredibles is a ripoff.
***** "is still more faithful as an adaptation than the actual Fantastic Four films'
The Incredibles are an original concept and like you said it borrowed from other great works of fiction. So it's not an adaption. It's easy to create completely new ideas, because fans won't whine about the source material. However these FF movies are god awful I think we all agree.
***** Oh, that's a comment I didn't see coming... a thousand times.
***** this joke's gonna get worn out reeeeaaaaalll quick
This Fantastic 4 tried be the Dark Knight of the Fantastic 4 movies but ended up making the other Fantastic 4 movies look like the Dark Knight.
***** incredibly tedious, unfocused movie with tonal issues sounds more like the Burton movies
Producers always learn the wrong lessons from box office results.
"Kate Mara looks bored."
Kate Mara ALWAYS looks bored.
Rooney got all the talent.
Look at her _f a a a a a a c e..._
"What's wrong with your face?"
She was good in House of Cards I think
@@jarunia17 She's got a great ass
Yes, Doctor Doom is one of the best comic book characters. Too bad he wasn't in this movie.
Of all the videos on the internet of VCR repairmen ripping apart film this is by far my favorite.
Haha I didn't get that refrence it's genius
...
What a brutally honest comment
I guess Im randomly asking but does any of you know of a way to log back into an instagram account?
I somehow lost the password. I would love any tricks you can give me
@Levi Kendrick Instablaster :)
It’s been over 5 years, which means it’s almost time to remake the f4ntastic 4our
Fuvk me, it was confirmed in December. I hate this
When Stan the Man goes all like "I ain't puttin my face in that movie!" you know there's a problem!
ThatRabbitGuy Wut? He produced the movie though.
Travis Maz Perhaps. It's not one of the normal producer creds though. But Matthew Vaughn was a normal producer on the movie, which makes me believe that there was once a much better version of this movie.
I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but this film was based on Ultimate Fantastic Four, which definitely had body horror elements, rather than the 616 team.
I watched this movie on a trans-Atlantic flight and embarrassed myself by laughing hysterically at Doom's horribly bad mask/face.
17:13 "I like him, he's not like super handsome";
-Mike Stoklasa, 2015
I came back here just to rewatch that very part
Mike is way more super handsome than you, Dr. Phil
Why does Jay's audio have that awful buzzing in the background? Is this subliminal messaging or something?
Subliminal messages for giraffes to bite your head off
Original Narrator You can tell Mike edited this episode.
Nah it's actually the fact that Jay is just a robot and it's making the lav malfunction
Probably noise from the pre-amp for Jay's mic being turned up higher than Mike's mic.
It’s stylistically designed to be that way...
I nearly spit out the water I was drinking when the picture of a hamster came up when Mike mentioned Richard Gere.
FlyingOverTr0ut LMFAO
Please...
it's a *gerbil*
It's a gerbil though...
@@introgauge Speaking from experience, are we?
"Director Josh Tank"
I laugh every single time I watch the episode. Simple and elegant comedy.
He removed the R.
Crying with laughter at the blink-and-you'll-miss-it Richard Gere reference.
Fantastic Four needs to be set in a colorful, swinging 60s - campy but updated technical stuff - a la Austin Powers. Campy, cheesy, colorful and fun. (not that they weren't handled perfectly by Venture Bros).
Nice prediction bro
As a fan of the original comics, a dark Fantastic Four movie is sort of like a drinking cup/pasta strainer combo. However, I completely agree that IF you want to do that, you have to fully commit or it falls apart entirely. This could have been a weird but interesting film but it really seems like the studio killed it. Another Suicide Squad situation. If you're doing something bold, man up and jump in with both feet; otherwise, it'll definetly fail.
You can tell that Josh Trank has no idea who Doctor Doom really is. You know it's bad when the 2005 movie was more accurate
And now Doom is Iron Man.
Now that they mention this point about body horror, the Fantastic 4 COULD maybe work as a real, Cronenberg-esque body horror film: every character's power in this team has some physical element to it: three of them directly involve mutation or mutilation of the skin and bones. Contrast this against other Marvel superhero teams, where the powers are mostly mental (Iron Man's supersmarts, Professor X's mind reading), elemental (Magneto's metal control, Storm's..... storms) or magical (Thor's powers).
If you are curious about that jazz song that is in the video, it is "String of Pearls" by the Glen Miller band.
This movie pissed me off, because I was actually excited for it and it ended up being a pile of shit.
I even kinda liked it in the beginning, and was thinking "Man, why was everyone so angry about this?"
Then I found out.
Aaron Large that was sort of like die another day for me, it started okay then when they get to the ice palace, this movie became one of the worst movies ever and i ended up feeling sick about the movie for a few hours
This movie came out before I had discovered a network for movie related news, so while I had heard bad things I didn’t know the extent or reasoning behind why people didn’t like this film. I figured it wasn’t for everybody. Walked into the theater excited and left feeling like I should ask for my money back.
Now I don’t see films without first doing my due diligence.
It's so fucking bizarre to see someone discuss this movie like functioning adults. Where's the hyperbole?! Where's the claims that this movie ruined your life?! What the fuck is going on?!
This is why I love RedLetterMedia.
Joshua Campbell Agree nice to see they dont just jump on the bandwagon, and gave the movie it's day in court, instead of a screaming review like chris stuckmann
BilboB Boyhood! It took 12 years to make! It's fantastic!
That was such a load of put-on horseshit. If you're going to get angry about a shitty movie, don't pick a completely innocuous one like Pixels.
Joshua Campbell To be fair, Adam Sandler has an understandable tendency to make people foam at the mouth in anger.
14:12 "I remember it being blue and having people in it"
Quality review work, haha.
Sounds like Avatar
😂
@@themousemage avatar was green tho
They made Ant-Man work just fine. Fantastic Four would have worked as they are.
Antman worked only because Gregg Turkington was involved.
The collection of clips you used of them looking gradually less interested in interviews was incredible - the cast really don't give a shit, do they?
Hahahahahaha!!!! I storyboarded that Dennys commercial at 9:45. LMFAO. Didn't see that coming...but I should have.
The best Fantastic Four movie ever made was The Incredibles.
+TheTrueChuster This comment was pasted on every goddamn review I ever saw of this movie but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you came up with it first.
Neal X I think we can trust moustache Superman
I didn't even realize this movie actually came out, I remember hearing a controversy about a black torch, but just assumed it got cancelled because I never saw an ad or commercial for it.
Huh, so that's the power of advertising.
I like how they pulled the Matt Hannon Samurai cop wig shots for Kate Mara on the reshoots
3:56
"Richard Gere" Image of gerbil. Nice reference, bros.
I'm almost glad that Jack Kirby passed away years ago, so that he didn't have to see any of this shit. Almost...
Good riddance lol jk jk ;) XD 8=D vageen
It’s interesting to hear Mike say it’s tough to know what to do with Fantastic Four when the obvious answer is “Star Trek”. Exploration and problem solving are at the core of Fantastic Four too. Whether or not that would be successful, different story.
There was a successful movie version of the Fantastic Four and it was called The INCREDIBLES.
j Hughes other youtuber say that few days ago in his review
j Hughes this joke is literally on every single video or article related to the Fant4stic movie
Creative It couldn't be because of how true and relevant it is.
***** or maybe people just love recycling? lol
j Hughes The point isn't them being the same, silly sausage, the point is that The Incredibles is the closest thing there's ever been to a decent Fantastic Four movie.
The Incredibles is only vaguely similar to the Fantastic Four, it's just that every Fantastic Four movie is so bad in comparison to The Incredibles that there's more similarity between The Incredibles and a hypothetical good Fantastic Four movie than there is between any existing Fantastic Four move and that hypothetical good one.
I would have thought this was implicit.
I mean I think whiplash is one of the best movies I've ever seen. It makes me feel like crap to watch it because ill never work that hard at anything, but it's so good
You gotta love how in the trailer, Sue is introduced just as Dr. Storm's daughter and has no added info to distinguish her from her dad.
*Am I the only one who can re-watch these??? *
nope. lol I love them too, I just went back to see Terminator Genesis review
I'm on my 3rd time binge watching these things.
These are pretty funny and entertaining and its better than wasting money going to see crappy films.
Im sitting on my toilet and thinking the same thing xDDD
+RadiKyle Islam Same, whenever I grind a game I "watch" (mostly listen) to old RLM videos
I think maybe Tetsuo: The Iron Man is one of the few movies that sort of combines fucked up body horror and also has superhero type battles in it.
Half in The Bag needs more of Mike impersonating noises lol
Shazam! Wamao! Shazam!
The issue with this movie isn't how dark they wanted it to be, and the issue with the 2005 movie isn't how silly it tried to be. Both interpretations can make good films, you just also have to execute it well with a good story and interesting characters. I think it's a little ridiculous to think superhero fans can't handle something a little different given how many different stories have been told in comic books, it just needs to be done well.
This flop needs a Plinkett review.
C G They said they didn't think it was that bad, I don't think it's Plinkett worthy.
So does pixels, and I refuse to capitalize it because that's a respect it should not have.
FunWithGuru Just got done watching your unused easter eggs vid. Didn't think i'd see you commenting on a RLM video for some reason.
C G Alright! I can't wait to see The Fantastic Four! It's gonna be great.
C G It should be more relevant to get a Plinkett review.
I've been looking forward to this more than the actual movie.
The best thing about this Fantastic Four is that it made the Roger Corman version more popular and more loved.
I was hoping they'd destroy the movie, instead we have 30 minutes of buzzing.
She's pretty shy, very smart, and very passionate about science, and she becomes the invisible women. LOL Oh man. So true.
Anything! Better than being a fantastic four member.
I once lost my fleshlight in another dimension when I dropped it in some green slime
zzFOXDIEzz Been there, done that...
Well, they finally acknowledged Whiplash as the best film of 2014. It's about time tbh.
Chris K You say that as though it's an objective fact. I think declaring one movie as "the best" is ultimately stupid and meaningless. It's great, but Birdman, Boyhood, Grand Budapest Hotel and Nightcrawler were all just as good. I would even say Mr. Turner, The Babadook, Wild, Gloria, Leviathan and several others are just as good.
Though from the movies I just named I think Mike and Jay have seen less than half of them. It's actually getting annoying how much they claim to defend the artistry of cinema, and then they never see any artistic films. Every year there's at least 20 or so truly great artistic films, and they only see 3 or 4 that reached mainstream popularity. But they're always sure to see EVERY major blockbuster and do a full review on it.
Leviathan was way better than whiplash
***** I fucking love Boyhood!!! It took 12 years to make!
Do you guys have anything intelligent or original to say? You just repeat all of RLM's opinions over and over again like parrots. It's annoying and childish.
I have literally never seen an intelligent discussion on any of their videos or on their website. 95% of comments just quote the video, say how terrible new movies are, quote their Star Wars review, or say "It took 12 years to make."
In the 5% of comments where someone tries to make a point, have a discussion, or disagrees, he is replied with quotes from the video, quotes from the Star Wars review, or quotes from their ridiculous Boyhood review. Please try to form an original thought.
Steve Steve "It's so dense."
I think Lou Reed was in control of Jay's mic.
the Fantastic Four comic version is like Star Trek in steroids with a bunch of superheroes that are a family, that's the difference with the avengers
I absolutely love how totally not on board Jay is with the overall story arc running in the background of these videos.
Fant4stic. It's called Fant4stic.
Fant-four-stic.
Whenever the camera is on Jay there seems to be some audio interference
Androids tend to mess with audio equipment feeds.
I think the biggest problem for the movie was that it was a solid hour in before they were even introduced to their super powers. The first act was an hour long, then the second and third acts were the remaining 40 minutes.
*****
Not much of one. It's like they spent a few minutes going over the "Cliff notes" for act two, then went into the last 20 minutes of "introduction to" then immediate "resolution of" Dr. Doom.
I wish they stuck with the science tone, would've been really original since no superhero movie really elaborates on the Metta. Their lack of a consistent, strong tone have people like me ( science/sci-fi nerd) and you (only wanna see superpowers) disappointed :(
+WarGamerGirl wow Dr. Doom alone can have his own movie. such disrespect for what could've been Art... I need a moment ;_;
LyingPrauses
Only wanna see superpowers? That's a lot of assumption. I would have really enjoyed a strong sci-fi version of this movie as well, but the movie really didn't have any science fiction either. There was a small bit of "scientifical" gibberish about interdimensional travel that takes you to a planet containing "energy"... that has "power"... and nothing more specific than that. The first hour of the movie does not contain any more science fiction than it contains character development. It was a solid hour of plot mechanics to get you to the fight at the end. It was just bad all around.
LyingPrauses That'd be great. A reverse Fantastic Four movie that follows the villian as he successfully crushes the heroes.
Every time I see Miles Teller in those shots, he looks like he has a bad case of Jaden Smith semi-confused blank stare.
Poor Josh Trank. Chronicle was such a great movie.
Diego Carnaval The dude had a mental breakdown on 4chan. He spent most of the shoot high as a kite or drunk as fuck. He totally trashed the luxurious accomidations for him causeing $100K in damages. Spilled spaghetti all over Twitter. Abused staff members. He gave Michael B. Jordan the role of Johnny Storm out of fucking cronyism. He threatened to beat up Jeff Sneider for exposing what a fucking turd Trank is. Most of what made Chronicle good was the work of Max Landis.
He's burned bridges and shown that he's nothing but a worthless fuck up. Fuck him.
TheTundraTerror just watch the collider review of this movie. You're so wrong its hilarious
sam evans
If you're going to tell me to watch something, at least link the damn thing.
Besides, I linked where I got my info from.
TheTundraTerror haha, yeah. Sorry mate. I was feeling super lazy. I'll link it
Diego Carnaval Most of the on-set meltdown stories sound like your typical made-up sensationalism, but I'd bet that if your movie had been mutilated by the studio 90% of the commenters here would've got drunk and smashed shit too.
"Its boring for adults.... but for me" -Mike 😂😂😂
You have to give them credit for consistently ruining Doom’s origin.
He’s not a biofreak. He’s a scientist, expert magician and leader of a sovereign nation, his willpower is so strong he marches into Hell to pimp slap the devil demanding that Doom’s mother is released and he gets away with it
2:57 Behold my favorite RedLetterMedia comedy edit in all its brilliance!
Can’t help but laugh so hard at that subtle Richard Gere jab with the gerbil
DR DOOM IS NOT A GENERIC SLASHER VILLAIN. Trank could invent your own villain if he wanted to, but this was NOT Dr Doom!
Not that I liked Man of Steel that much, but when Zack Snyder changes the lore and tone of Superman, Mike craps on it. But when Josh Trank does the same thing with Fant4stick, suddenly it's okay and admirable? We really needed Rich on this review, he would've known what's up!
I'm with Cinema Snob on this one.
They clearly didn't like the movie. It's less to do with the tone being off and more to do with the fact that the whole movie is such a dud that it's hard to get up in arms about it. I agree the mass killing from doom was out of place, but I still left the theatre struggling to care and just having sympathy for the whole thing.
Most accurate thing said was right in the beginning. Doctor Doom is an amazing character in the comics. Maybe one day he can get that Joker level treatment and the complexity of the character can be captured onscreen.
sorry but i don’t think i can take someone named Doctor Doom seriously
@@carnifex423 They’d probably just call him Victor for the majority of the film.
@@Bit2brain
But then what's the point, right? If we call him Victor the entire time, doesn't that kinda remove part of his appeal? Yeah, it's goofy, but so are the Fantastic 4.
@@Miriam_J_ Keep some mystery and emphasis on the evolution of the character until the big reveal at the end. How it’s put on screen is more important than just calling him Doctor Doom for two hours.
Not too sound sappy, but today is my Birthday, I went to my favorite pub Hair of the Dog then to a Sanders rallly then came home for a night cap and saw a new redletter media. Just want to say Love the hard work you all put into these .
Happy Birthday! :)
***** Will do.
Z Film Reviews Happy birthday. Did you get drunk?
pekinobo yes, very.
Z Film Reviews I also got drunk. Maybe we should party like it 1999?
Really love the fact that you put Glenn Miller on the background!
24:55 "I couldn't hate it. There were elements in it that were... well done." XD Glowing review.
I've been waiting all day for this...
Miles Teller looks a bit like Mark Zuckerberg.
Social Network 2 confirmvilled?
AFKAwesome As Zuckerberg's evil twin, with his own site, Handnovel.
or a gopher
+Neal X His voice is exactly like Chris Penn's too. I swear to god, he sounds like Nice Guy Eddie whenever he gets mad!
Half in the Bag is my favorite entertainment anything! I always get a smile when a new one is up because I am guaranteed a good time.
It isn't that hard to make a comic book movie, just hire people who actually like and know the original source material...
Yijuwarp Being true to the comics doesn't matter. It's a very small number of people who know. A even smaller number cares. And they are going regardless. The studios just need to stop putting all their money on random focus groups.
Nah, they just know the brand. I'm sure less than a percentile of people that watch comic book movies ever read any of the comics. They just know it exists and that's good enough. Even if they've ever read a single comic, the ridiculous amounts of different versions don't make much sense. All ya gotta do is a good movie, but they don't do that either.
You can make something cool even though it's goofy. Monkey D. Luffy has great moments where he asserts himself as a character with authority and integrity while stretching his arms, legs, and even neck, during fights with cat-people, droopy-ear lobed Eminem look-alikes, and flamboyantly dressed flamingos. It's all about the contrasts. You do the goofy stretchy guy, and then you put him in a situation where he needs to rise to the challenge, and then you make him explode with competency. The problem with doing semi-realistic, gritty stretch guy is that there's not contrast in the character since he goes from bland normal guy to silly stretchy guy.
There were giant chunks ripped out! Fox took out three large action set pieces before filming even began. Then they locked Trank out of the editing room and reshot much of the last act
Every now and then I check back to try and watch this review, because the audio issues have kept me from watching it. They still aren’t fixed. It’s been years. I think I need to let it go 😂
Oh man what's with Jay's microphone???
The picture of the hamster when they say Richard Gere, lmfao
Ok but the real Doctor Doom has been incredibly fleshed out over time
One of my favorite channels right here, keep up the great work guys!
I looked around my room for that God awful buzzing just to find out Jay was trying to claw his way out of my screen.
As a comics reader, this sort of thing is really frustrating for me. The Fantastic Four CAN be fun and CAN be well written, and Doctor Doom alone is a fantastic character with a long and storied history with some amazing high points (he's basically become God twice now). The problem is that they're only ever interested in writing the origin story, and never want to deviate into anything else--and they're so desperate to be liked, that they refuse either make Reed the know it all asshole he is in the comics OR just go in the opposite direction and completely embrace the silliness inherent in these characters' powers and like 90% of their villains (one of their villains leads an army of mole people for fuck's sake, have fun with it), and turn it into a light-hearted thing, because that's too big of a risk.
Basically, Fantastic Four movies suck not because the necessarily bad, but because they're hard to adapt when you have no sense of creativity. Also, Doctor Doom is awesome, if you take nothing else out of this, just understand that.
I think this review is why I love Red Letter Media so much.
They actually sat down and broke the movie down like adults instead of screaming and jumping on bandwagon to hate on it for the sake of it. *COUGH COUGH* STUCKMANN! *COUGH COUGH*.
still a shitty movie so don't hop on the bandwagon of *ZOMGZ MARVEL CHARACTERS IZ THE BEST!!!1 XD" you ignorant,kid
The Doom Patrol is a superhero team that people can experiment with as a Dark Sci-fi/horror movie
Damn it's only Josh's 2nd major film. Hope the next thing he makes, he gets more control over the final cut. There's so many great things about chronicle it was definitely not a fluke.
6 years later... Yeah it may have been a fluke. /slide whistle
I've been waiting for this all weekend.
Wow, my life is sad.
Secret of the Ooze / Vanilla Ice reference was gold if you know.
Go ninja go ninja GO.
great job recording jay's lav mic! really neat stuff
2:32 And this is the moment where Jay considers how he can not come off as too negative as he prepares to rip this turkey to shreds.
if they remade the fly with Michael Fassbender I'd be down
Birdman, Nightcrawler, Whiplash.
What's with all the awesome movies having superhero/villain names?
The fact that you edited in bad audio buzz for jays close up is just the best thing Lolol.
That Dr. Doom thing in the beginning was completely true
The Glen Miller music in the background is fantastic...4.
10 seconds in and I know they are gonna rip it a new asshole. I LOVE RLM!
***** They surprisingly didn't.
FunWithGuru There wasn't anything left to rip on. They felt almost sorry for the film from the looks of it.
FunWithGuru oh my gooooood Funwithguru watches RLM what is happening
FunWithGuru they're failed filmmakers so...yeah.
not that they aren't a massive youtube success
***** This video shows why I really Like RLM. I also like Chris Stuckmann but I think he went way over the top with his review. The film isn't a total mess, and RLM does sympathise with Trank and see the good points in the movie.
love it when there's a ringing noise for 27 minutes
Fan4stic: Rise of the Cobra Surfer
I've been waiting all year for this particular video review. I'm happy now.