⁴ᴷ Last run of the Montréal Metro MR-63 Cars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2018
- The MR-63, Montreal’s first subway car, was retired on June 21st. I took a brief trip up to Montreal to document the operation of the very last MR-63 train, including the absolute last revenue run. Enjoy!
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Taken on June 20th and 21st, 2018. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The train crew looked happy and delighted to see all of those rail enthusiasts. In NYC, transit workers will tell you that you can't record the trains.
Even if you actually can. Because fuckers.
Because it’s embarrassing to the rest of the world. NYC trains are so bad.
Difference in security training. In NY they probably pump it into their heads that photographers = terrorists.
@@moltar2000 Agree
The only system where you can’t is PATH. They have an actual photography ban in place. Any other system allows it.
Nice video! Thank you for taking part in the event. We hope you had fun :)
Petit truc que je n’ai pas compris, les trains à intérieur orange encore utilisés sur certaines lignes ne sont pas des mr-63? S’agit-il de deux modèles très similaires?
@@quelquun6812 Les trains avec l'orange sont des mr-73.
Aren’t supposed to speak french
@@hadihamid1560 I'm pretty sure they are bilingual
Onionz yes, people in Montreal are bilingual. It’s really cool 😂
Looking at an old train like that, it still looks pretty modern!
That's because it was refurbished many times between 1963 and 2018 when they were all retired.
I am From Toronto, but I absolutely fell in love with the mr63 cars. They had such a unique sound and performance. They will be missed.
Here in Toronto is much like a standard American city, even though its Canadian, it really appears like a different country in its own right over there.
@@casual_boredom7195 Hi Again! It's me Dilton!
My mother took me aboard this train when we went to Expo 67. I was four years old at the time and it brings back a flood of good memories.
i'm not even from that place and i must've ridden in an mr-63 only like, twice in my whole life, yet... i dunno, something's sad about seeing them run for the last time, even 3 years later. even 52 years after they were delivered, they still looked timeless.
Legends never die. #neverforget
I admire the cleanliness and efficiency of their transit system. If I had to pick a video showing a good way to run a metro society, here it is, but for learning the particulars of their overall societal interaction and economy, we could do that all over America. Nice video.
If you lived here, you'd change your tune in a heartbeat.
My mother took me aboard this train when we went to Expo 67. I was four years old at the time and it brings back a flood of good memories.
Nice video! As always. Did a great job showing details about the train, and its history. Still can't believe you came all the way up here to see that! Thanks for coming along, and thanks for the video
Amazing work!!
I took this metro line (line 1) pretty much every single day throughout my high school years, i would get in at Radisson and go all the way to Lionel Groulx monday to friday, and from radisson to langelier on saturdays for my air cadets, although they looked in good shape they had a lot of problems towards the end.. thank you for doing this video, brings me back great memories!
Great video! Absolutely awesome shot on the Montreal transportation system you got to admit their old subway train that's retiring looks 5 times beautiful then most of our NYC subway old cars and you see the rest of the city's train station's tracks system CLEAN! Very clean and very beautiful! why can't the MTA NYC do that?!
The 1,6 and 7 lines are the closet to the cleaness of those cars most ly the 7
I imagine he MTA subway has way more traffic and has seen more abuse. Also STM probably takes better care of the cars too
Montréal's métro has the highest traffic relative to the population, after New York (in North America)
@@@crispinsugita9398 NYC subway is much larger than Montreal. No excuses for NYC subway being so dirty. But it is not as bad as it was in the late 60s thru the 80s...Not even close.
OMG that's something awesome and special. Once again DJ I appreciate it and look how clean then stations look including then track which is a far cry from NYC Subway.
The very first train ride I ever had in my life was on one of these, on what is now called the green line.
I lived in NDG as a child so my first ride was on the more colourful MR-73. Once I left Vendome direction Henri-Bourassa, we'd pass Place St.-Henri and then we'd get off at Lionel-Groulx to go to Atwater. I thought it was really cool how the green line trains were colourless on the inside.
I have been on the MR-63s a few times. It's a very nice train. I never really knew much about the Montreal metro trains till a few months ago, I also never knew why some of the trains didn't have a door closing sound, now I do. I'm going to miss those trains.
Vancouver’s oldest SkyTrain model, the noisy old Mark I, is still running. It even runs on the Evergreen Extension!
Nice video - interestingly, a few of the MP59s (the cars that the MR-63s were based on) are still running on Line 11 in Paris!
Class317Max Are those the ones with the manual doors? If so, I rode them a lot in Paris in May, very cool!
Yeah they're one of the types that have them!
Which other ones have them? This is slightly embarrassing, but when I first tried to take line 11, I stood there and waited for the doors to open. Once I noticed the handle I went to pull it, but the train started moving again before I could!
The MP73s on Line 6, and the MF67s (steel wheels rather than rubber tyres) on Lines 3, 3b, 10 and 12.
It's not worse than waiting for the bus doors to open in North America. Either you have to press a button, or worse, you have to literally manually push the doors! WTF
When this all started, I was a student at the then Montreal Institute of Tehnology, 200 Sherbreeoke St. W. I remember travelling from the Place des Arts stadium (the metro entrance, (one of them) was right at the back end of the then shops. That took me to Peel St. where I would walk down to windsor Station to get the commuter train to Baie d'Urfe. (then a 3/4 mile walk home.)
At about the same era, I remember the woodworking teacher trying to teach as they were driving piles for the construction of Place des Arts. He had his challlenge cut out!
That was the era when Montreal started to come alive in a more modern way!
Thank you for sharing, a real flashback and a time warp for me growing up in Montreal and seeing this 50 years later and now settled in LA. To this day I can still smell the rubber tires and electrical current when those trains whizzed by while standing on the platform.
What's a Canadiana historical thread without expat input
My mother took me aboard this train when we went to Expo 67. I was four years old at the time and it brings back a flood of good memories.
I want to visit the city the metro looks so calm and clean and I like that they speak French 😊
Looks so much more modern and fresh than anyone the new soup can trains rolling on NYC rails.
Great Video, DJ, Fellow New Yorker! I rode on that Metro in 1973. It was as hot as a BMT R16 & just like the R16, not air conditioned.
RIP MR63!
My favorite train of the all the MR63s was the "MR71", a modified MR63 fitted with a current chopper on its propulsion system which served as a prototype for the later MR73 still being used today. It had the same chime than the MR73 but louder and a more electronic sound. They were the first being decommissioned when the MPM10 were commissioned .
My mother took me aboard this train when we went to Expo 67. I was four years old at the time and it brings back a flood of good memories.
I still will miss these MR-63s
This was really well made, you see a lot of metro videos and it's just people filming and that's it but I liked how informative this video was :)
They should keep that train in tact and bring it out for service on special occasion, like in 2026 for the 60th anniversary. When the last MR-73 is retired I will have to drive to Montreal to ride it. That was my favourite model.
Funny how their old trains look 100 times better than American ones on the metro/subway
I grew up riding those cars. The rubber wheels and the 3 pitched while like music when they took off. Took the bus from TMR down Jean Talon to get aboard.
wow I grew up with these trainand loving that they have tires was always something I loved. Been visiting Montreal since I was a baby with my parents for the F1 race. last time I went in 2019 they had no doors anymore in between train cars. Also I remember them always opening the doors before the train completely stops lol
thank you for this video!
I never got a chance to see them or hear them in person. They sound musical and look nice.
I believe the subsequent model has the cute 3 note sound. "The three-note sound is produced by traction motor control equipment called a "current chopper", which is used to control and power the motors on the train in stages without incurring a power surge" Which is very sweet to hear! "Duuu Duuuuu Duuuuuuu!"
very rare sound to be a chopper tho
Oh that's what I was looking for, chopper. Thanks. Anyways, I still really wish I got to see them.
Damn sad but nice vid man 👍👍
These are similar to Paris metro and the subways MR-63 was one of them in Montreal.
I have lived near L'Assomption station between 2003 and 2010, and enjoyed my daily rides downtown to Place-des-Arts or McGill. I was happy that for all those years, the MR-63s were on the green line, while all other lines had the MR-73s. I don't know why, but I intimately prefferd the MR-63s and I felt a little something on the green line I couldn't feel elswhere. I don't know why, but the Green line has always been the line where STM runs its oldest cars. Even today, many MR-73s are still on the green line, while the orange line has only new ones. I remember during the 80s and most of the 90s, the MR-63s had simili-leather seats that the MR-73s had never had (I believe). At some point near 2000, they put all the white seats apparently to prevent vandalism (that was done to the old seats).
2 facts I noticed you did not mention:
The MR-63s used to make a loud "Psssshhhhhh" as they start rolling, instead of the "Do-Do-Doooo" of the MR-73s, and surprisingly, the new AZUR trains also make a "Psssshhhh" but not as authentic as the one of the MR-63s (of course). Second thing is that I have always wondered why there was a 3-feet-or-so steel boxes with a wire-mesh on top (like some end doors you mentioned) in the place where an end seat would be. What were these boxes used for?
Thanks for any info, and for the video itself that reminds me some great memories I hope I'll never forget...
Merci d'avoir fait des commentaires en français! Et très belle vidéo, très bien filmée et commentée.
Je me demande si il vont faire la meme chose avec le mr73 pour son depart car jai remarquer que des que le mr63 est parti, le mr73 nexistais plus sur la ligne orange mais jai juste hate que le azur soit parti de la stm. A se moment la ne vais repenser au mr63
Excellent video!
I legit saw u right there in the blue shirt!
I rode the Metro on its inaugural day in October 1966. Films of the event can be found in TH-cam. Up until then, Montreal was in dire need of more efficient public transit and had fallen behind Toronto as its subway began service in 1954.
Nice video!
I would’ve been crying that is for sure because I love these trains so much crying being like it’s such a good ride
1:03 I'm glad that one of the cars will be preserved at the museum in Delson!
The retirement of these cars was celebrated in a similar way to the retirement of London Underground stock!
I went on the Montreal metro back in 2016 when my dad allowed me and my mom to come to Canada where he works. And he also sent us both to Montreal and we went on these train cars. But the car connectors in the sets looked pretty weird to me. Now these trains are being retired and that is just sad.
merci beaucoup de partager cette le vidéo
Superbe vidéo!
I remember before the STCUM rebuilt them in the early 90s, the seats were padded and black. I was there that day and I took my final photo at Laurier station.
I remember riding them from downtown Montreal to the Montreal Casino getting off at the station near the Biosphere.
Press F to pay respect... To the legend of Montreal
Nice! I am returning to Montreal for the first time since 2016. It will be odd being on the new trains (only been on them once).
Wow im not from there but rip MR-63, However NYCTA fans the R32 is still holding the record of Oldest R-type car MR-63 1966-2018
R32 1964-PRESENT
THE R32S ARE STILL LASTING STRONG EVEN AFTER 54 YEARS
SEPTEMBER WILL MARK 54 YEARS FOR THE R32, THE R32 WILL BE WITH US FOR ANOTHER 4-5 YEARS
R32 R33 R36 R42 R46 R44 R62 R68 R40 R40M INFO mainly it's retiring in 2022 or 2023 but i wish they can put a RB26DETT engine on it
Stop using caps please
BenTheMiner / MTA Railfanner me?
No, and when I replied I didn't see your reply lol
BenTheMiner / MTA Railfanner oh lol
Awesome video man they will be missed rip MR-63 1966-2018 :(
Burnt Director I don't think they should retire this train. Subways are to by pass traffic. Trains are efficient
Hotters 7060 no actually this are 52 years old and need to be retire like the r42
Burnt Director Do they have new train cars to replace these old ones????
Hotters 7060 yes it's call the azur the new trains
Burnt Director Are they going to preserve these old MR-63 cars or put some of them in the museum?? They should have museums for these cars.
I'll always remember these trains as a child. The orange line trains had colourful blue interiors while the green line had white, grey and black. The trains themselves were pretty much the same. It's a shame that they retired them. I hope that they keep them in reserve in case one of the new Bombardier trains goes down.
Sadly the STM kept only a conplete set of 3 cars, tho 1 of the car (81-502) was sent to Exporail, in Delson!
I was surprised to learn that although the trains were not air conditioned the Operator's cabs had air conditioning added when Operators were passing out from the heat! Those boxes with the air filters in them replacing a seat beside the door to the Operator's cab was the ac unit.
Wow! Nice video.
Things to note:
Not displayed here, there where MR-73 that was also retired the same year.
The car have a distinct 3 notes playing when they start. This is the result of the 3 large resistors used to power the bogies. Harmonics generated those notes that became part of the STM publicity jingles.
The braking system was relying on wooded shoes dipped in peanut oil which gave a unique smell when heated up by breaking.
The "screen" mesh between cars was added later on after a terrible fire incident in 1971.
I remember riding on those cars to Expo 67.
Vidéo excellente merci
Nice video!!!
They look in good condition tho
XPertt 4K yeH
Their ventilation and noise is awful XD
Ya they probably restored a bit and washed them well before the last run.
They absolutely did. They normally are covered in disgusting gunk - underground-only system so they are never washed.
Also keep in mind the MR-63s got a major mid-life refurbishment in the early 1990s, so many components were about 25 years old upon retirement. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR-63
Im gonna miss the old day trains
I felt sadder about this than the TTC H5's (which I lvoed so much).
The original 1966 seats had black vinyl padding on them. In subsequent years, however, they were replaced by the all-plastic type seen in this video, presumably due to easier cleaning, wear and tear over the years, and their vulnerability to vandalism of the vinyl. In addition, the original advertisement panels above the windows and doors were unwisely covered by a transparent, flammable material similar to celluloid that caused a serious fire. The vertical grab-bars at the ends of each car were originally the single-rod type and not the triple grab-bars seen here.
That is a good idea to put a metal mesh screen in between cars for air circulation that must have helped to keep people cool in Toronto on TTC Subway cars could have tried this also since there was so many comments on non air-conditioned Subway cars and in winter seal the screen up to keep the heat in.
Miss those
I loved those trains, but must go must go.
Farewell, you beautiful machine!
(Wish we could do the same thing with the NS-74 down here in Chile)
Are the NS-74 being retired?
Fortunately Paris still keeps its MP 59!
@@paname514 Yep. There was the intention of renewing all the available stock but unfortunately, the amount of asbestos found in between the parts, made it a health hazard for the workers involved. So Santiago Metro decided to ask Alstom to built a newer train that could be used on the older lines. The NS-16 was mostly assembled in Chile, with parts coming from Brazil, Spain and France.
To my knowledge, at least a full trainset will be donated to a train museum in Santiago and the rest of the stock will be either sold for scrap or preserved for use in case of an unusual high demand
What a shame.
Hopefully more than one set will be preserved, and in working order.
@@paname514 Thats what Im hoping for. That train was one of my favourite from the system (alongside the NS-93)
Oh yes, I completely understand you like these trains. I personnally really like them, especially the old MP 59, MP 73 and the newer MP 89 (the NS-93 equivalent). The MP 89 has a great engine noise. I also like the MR-63 and MR-73 in Montréal.
Belle Vidéo
It's sad to see an old metro train retire.
The builder was a shipbuilder and they did a very good job.
The transport authority could have kept a whole trainset for special commemorative travels, such as the Paris Metro and Berlin U-Bahn have done (in Paris still keep old Sprague-Thomson trainsets due to this reason)
These are reminiscent of similar-vintage units on the Paris Mètro - was there any French design input? Were any of the series built in France? \//\
Ghislain Laframboise thank you, you tell a beautiful tale of Canadian resourcefulness and pragmatism. \//\
The composition of the head lamps is not Paris style.
These look more like from the DÜWAG U2 cars, designed for the Frankfurt metro system...
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You will be missed
the subway stations in montreal look more modern than the nyc system
Because they are more recent.
joan morales No kidding.
This is unique.
The first ever mr73 car got preserved aswell
5:45 Famous last words in the rear cab.
They also scrap the MR-73s as well too.
idk why i'm cying in the club rn
It's ok it's just sad. You can treat a train like you are it's family member. Listen, when a train retires, I feel sad too, especially if they're going to scrap them. I'll want at least one picture of it and with it before it retires.
I've never even been to Montreal and I cried a bit. I like machines, and I like the people that built them. I just get emotional as it represents all their hard work and achievement.
Are the other cars (the 73) still running or r they gone?
I wish I could have ridden them one last time but I was during final high school exam time
The city of Montreal Quebec Canada should keep a couple sets now that there is plenty of spare parts now and including traction motors the most expensive part
I wonder if they ever kept one of the original ones with the gray seats and black leather?
Now you need to coming Toronto and Ride TTC
This was a very nice farewell but I hated taking it lol.
The Montreal underground is an adventure, but only when taken voluntarily...😃
This is the same propulsion as the MP59 in France!
They've held up well as they never see the elements but are definitely long in the tooth. Some of the oldest rolling stock in North America. There is a faint ell of roasted peanuts from the brake shoes.
It's funny the classic announcements have a Parisian accent and the special announcements made for the event a typical Quebec accent.
Best Metro System in Canada.
These cars were better than the MR-73 on the orange line. I found their lights often dimmer and seat often appeared dirtier.
i prefer MR-73
Although the MR-63 always sounded much older than the MR-73 i remember always liking them as a kid more idk what it was it felt more comfortable also the speakers were so much better it's amazing how bad the speakers are in the MR-73 although the door chimes are much louder than the mpm-10 that are soo weak. The day though that they are going to remove the MR-73 i think is going to be even more sad than loosing the MR-63 cause we will also loose the iconic old look of the original trains and the iconic motor starting sound that are now the door chimes.
Neat!
Enjoy your retirement MR-63 you have earned it:)
I will miss the melody of the engines
Chris Jin. The MR-63s with the exception of 3 test trains did not make the do do do sound. The MR-73s do.
R.I.P MR-63 trains
:'( I'll always miss the sound. do do doooooo
Hey! I am on the video!!! At 0:34
What happened after it was retired??
These Montreal metro cars don’t have air conditioning and even the mpm-10s cause u know how your subway is hot, they rather have the whole place balance out and air conditioning releases hot air
I'm from NYC, I don't know anything about this train, but they look in good condition, doesn't make sense to retire them by what I see in the video.
It doesn't look like it, but they are quite high maintenance. Plus they are trying to modernize the trains, and theres just so much you can do to improve a 50 years old train.
A lot of replacement parts had to be custom made in the garages to keep them up. They did an admirable job of it, but it was costly.
It's because they maintain them better, especially cosmetically. I remember being in NYC in 2002 and taking a subway. I looked around and thought "Wow we keep complaining about our 40+ year old stuff in Montreal, but here in NYC they have subway cars that are like 80 years old." Then I looked up at a plaque that said they were from the 1980s. Our subway cars looked clean an nice for 50+ years, does not mean they were not old underneath it all.
It's important to note that the Metro runs 100% underground (indoors) and that was a major reason why the MR-63's (and 73's for that matter) have lasted so long. The Azurs simply will not last that long; things just aren't built to last like that anymore.
BTW, these trains were restored for this retirement ride for some reason. They are missing the layer of filth that they typically have.
удивительно метро продвинутое а трамваев нет совсем
It makes me sad to see this ;-;
in boston the train would derail and catch on fire to celebrate!
Nowadays I fell like the MR63 running on other lines besides the green so sus 😂