I finally watched Lords of Chaos
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Now that the hype is over, I could finally watch the movie and share my thoughts.
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Me: exactly man i thought the same, i totally get u, i agree
Same😂
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If you are a Burzum fan, you hate the movie.
If you dont hate it..stop listening to Burzum than,its not made for you.
@@PongoOful i think what ur talking about shouldnt even be called a movie, its a fucking joke that has nothing to do with reality.
@@nebuleusetentatrice thats my point
This opinion could make trve Black Metal heads angry. So if you consider yourself super trve and evil, don't watch this. Thanks.
To all the other ones: Feel free to discuss your thoughts in the comments and don't pay too much attention to the details. I'm still a German trying to say things in English 😄
we into this music because of its lyrics, sound, atmosphere. I dont care about at all i mean you told us about your thoughts very well i guess ♥️
I totally agree with your opinion. It was a good movie, and I liked a lot the acting and all the accurate details. But just a movie.
I still prefer Until The Light Takes Us to that family friendly movie. Only that Varg is played by a fat jew is hilarious. Fenriz and Necrobutcher definitely didn't like it. But I'm not a bm elitist and have no problem that some people enjoyed it .Grüße aus Wien!
@@charlottekrasny I don't think Emory Cohen is fat, just a bit portly but not really fat. I thought he looked fine nude in the fuck montage. Not as good as Rory Culkin looked in his underwear, but by average person standards, fine. But he isn't a very accurate representation of what Euronymous looked like either, but it's not that important. It's hilarious that it triggers Varg so much and I totally approve of trolling him because he's a douche bag. I know having a jew play him rattles his antisemitic chain, but if he's particular about being portrayed as a thin person then I wish they'd cast a much fatter actor, like Josh Gad.
I'll watch this anyway, don't tell me what to watch, thanks. Also we know what a comments section is for. Has Germany ever had freedom of speech?
Maybe the real lords of chaos was the friends we made along the way
That is the least trve kvlt thing I have ever read! hahahaha
Underrated comment
**Varg making chocolate milk before killing Euronymous**
Yupppp def sound like a “Real story”
You're spending too much attention to the details. That was a weird scene of course
Farvann of course,the details make a movie good or shit
The movie said itself it wasn't an entirely true story?
@@farbodkh4858
Not Just the details
Here, some choccy milk
Because your epic
Personally (as a fan of Mayhem) I love it. There are some obvious tonal issues with the direction I feel, though all of the main beats were hit. It still informs you mainly of what happened, along with an element of fantasy. It was based off a book we all know was already riddled with hearsay and rumors rather than facts. The film even begins saying it's not gonna be 100% accurate. Don't know why everyone got salty over THAT.
There's some wonderful camera work, and some really, really dynamic color work. I think people just don't understand that these are characters based off of real people, and there was no intention to make a documentary. There's tons of documentaries about black metal folks can watch, but personally I enjoy a cinematic fantasy element taking that specific subject matter.
Like Mayhem isn't just, "That band where the singer killed himself." They have a f-in movie now!! But people fear the mainstream and "selling out" thing. I thought it was interesting that the film had it's own idea on that phenomena, too.
I’ve heard people criticize the suicide scene for being “graphic” and “self-indulgent.” I think it makes you feel with the characters, both Per Ohlin and Øystein much more than if they’d done it the safe route(a cutaway to a window with the gunshot sound in the background. It also made it seem much less romantical which I think a lot of movies do.
Until the light takes us... Is a must watch for those wanting to know more about history of black metal
Honestly, outide of the interviews with Varg and Fenriz I dont think it's paticularly good either. It doesnt really talk much about the music or imagery and tend to focus too much on the controversy and crime.
@@ericpeterson9110 yes youre right
@@FilipeCosta-fi1yu Yeah, could be better, but still worth watching for the crispy cornflake Varg convo and Abbath smiling while denying he was involved in the church burnings.
I'm not gonna lie, I felt it was made for normies and not for actual fans who know the facts.
But that's just me.
Of course it was. Would you make a movie only a few thousand people watch and then lose money? It had to be made for the "masses" in some way. But it's still pretty good, even for the metalheads.
Exactly, there are several problems that actual fans would get bothered by and what normies are going to see a movie about Mayhem?
The thing is, no one except the guys who actually were there knows the true story. It's naive to just listen to what Varg or whoever else says and take it as a fact. You only know the story that was told to you, not the true one (sure, it might be true to some degree, but you can never be certain).
Imagine being someone who, unironically, uses the term "normies". And I saw it in the cinema, trust me no one there was "a normie". It was a crowd of pure metal and rock people.
"the facts" lol
I liked the movie. I just thought it was really cool to see an acted movie about black metal, not a documentary.
I loved the Nostalgia in the movie. The albums in the back ground, the t-shirts, the horror movies playing, the instruments etc. There was a lot of work that went into those details from that time. Man.. I was thinking the good ole days. I liked the movie. Truthfully..
The thing I didn't like is that it portrayed Euronymous in way too much of a positive light. Like sure the move shows him doing fucked-up stuff, but Varg is clearly shown as the bad guy and Euro as the "good guy".
@@MollymaukT Maybe because Euronymous was a communist, and Varg represents everything the media want to shame right now.
@@MollymaukT Ι have read a couple times about this... how the hell does the film portray Euronymous in a positive light?? it protrays him as the most poseur of them all, more talk than act, a really cruel person, really obsessed but a coward... The only reason people can think like that is because they are Varg fantards (and/or racists) .. Varg was a nazi then and is a nazi now. But lots of them had similar racist ideas - its just the Varg was the real deal, a real nazi. All in all, they were both terrible people, but one was a nazi and nurderer.
@@kgbstudio lol, Varg isn't a Nazi.
@@lancia-037 yeah right.. being in denial is a part of being a neo-nazi, so maybe you are also one.
Farvann, your DOCUMENT 6 is incredible. Great!
3:00 "Dead, Euronymous, and Varg, are special people in our heads, they had a vision, they had something in their minds, like people we can look up to, but the movie shows characters that are young, wild, and rebellious, no mistification. And I think the movie tells the more true story.'
I was about to call him out, and then he added that second sentence.
the only thing i didn't understand was giving euronymous a love interest. I get wanting to make Euronymous the "good guy" because the film needs at least ONE likeable character in a cesspool of nutcases, but the love interest just wasn't needed, felt wrong, and was only in 2 or 3 scenes before you-know-who did you-know-what to you-know-who 23 times.
During the first part of the video I thought _"It's about admitting that the people we admire so much are actually a lot more... common than we think"_ . Then you started talking about the mystic element (which, for us, makes them unique) and the possibility of its absence and I was like _"YEP, HE GETS IT!"_
Why do you admire insane psychopaths?
“i was also on my way to kill euronymous”
-Jesus Christ
i really liked it. it brought back all those old good feelings of why i started listening to black metal when i was so young like they are in this story.
Dear Farvann, did you read in my mind when you made this video? Absolutely agree with your opinions :)
haha no, but thanks!
Great video \m/ i saw Lords of Chaos last year. I know the Mayhem/Burzum story too, but when i decided to see the movie i was like "why the hell not?" Its a damn good movie as a movie for sure (like you said). It would never pass as a documentary though. It was ballsy though bringing the topic of black metal into theatres. Some people seemed to still expect the movie to be more truthful even though in trailers it said "based on truth and lies". Norwegian scenery was beautiful like the woods and the churches (before they burned lol). Varg drinking chocolate milk before finishing his murder? Lol. In a way even though the movie was more fictional i imagine it opened more people up to black metal where maybe some would look into it more, and maybe find more truth.
The subtitles at 3:16 LOL
"urinals and vark are special people you know"
Yes, I do😂
I think you're right about it's demystification of the story. When I watched it, I realised "Y'know, even though this wasn't an accurate portrayal of what happened... it certainly put into perspective that they were just kids." I've never quite had a special little bit of magic towards the story since. Also, when you realise that they were just kids having fun, it makes Varg's refusal to move on from his teenage legacy all the more laughable
EDIT: "I don't eat meat."
"Oh, like Hitler."
"Yeah, exactly like Hitler."
Hands down the best scene of the whole movie
Yup.
That and “….scorpions!…” are funny.
Yeah, people don't realize how young they were. Dead commited suicide when he was 22 and Euro got murdered at 25. MFers managed to die too young to be on the 27 club.
Personally i really enjoyed Rory's delivery of the line ''I wanted out but I couldn't find a fucking door''. I know that the movie pictures Euronymous as someone more on the innocent side meanwhile he was far from innocent. It might sound stupid but this particular line made me feel bad for them because in the end they were just kids for real and they wanted to become big. It's just very easy to make mistakes at their age (I am around the same age as them) and although I would never dare to do anything as extreme I know what it feels to mess things up and then realize that there is basically no turning back. I've been a huge fan of the band for a few years now (I am really obsessed with Dead and I think that he was the best person out of them all). The movie was not great and although not accurate I took it as a more or less loose adaptation of their story. It is a good way to show that your actions can lead into horrific consequences and that you should really consider what you wanna do at such a young age. I am sorry for such a long and probably ridiculous comment I just got really emotional.
@@Isus24-s8e Dead is definitely the most sympathetic of the lot, and I related to him going through struggles that he did around the same. What frightens me the most about him in hindsight though it the massive level of parental neglect he had and that they didn't get him a psychiatrists despite all the red flags.
@@MollymaukT you have to keep in mind two things before judging his parents, who I believe actually loved their son: firstly the whole thing takes place in the late 80s/early 90s, meaning it was a lot harder to get information and help than it is today. And secondly, his family and friends are Swedish, they live in an entirely different country and cannot protect or help their son as easily as if he hadn't moved to Norway. His situation really got a lot worse in the last years of his life and his family may not have been aware of how bad it was. Sure they made mistakes, there's a lot more people who you'd expect that they could have done something to help than just his parents but this is all said 40+ years later and in hindsight everyone notices mistakes that were not noticed at the time. I think it is unfair to put blame on his family, who are the ones that suffer the most from his death.
Sorry for my bad English.
I never looked at it that way. You have a way of finding positivity and that’s commendable. Great videos
You're absolutely on point here, with the image we have in our minds of these OG BM kids vs the reality, and the movie showing that. I felt strangely validated when watching this, precisely because it shows real people stumbling through their hard lives, just like we all did. In some ways it makes BM an even bigger thing to me, because despite all the demystifying, they still came up with something really new and powerful.
Wow, my respect for you just got higher! I really like the fact that you are objective and see things from the movie maker perspective. I mean, I saw the movie and there were times when I thought "hey that's not how it happened" but at the same time I enjoyed it because it was... entertaining. It was an artistic vision of some events, made in such a way to be watchable by the larger audience.
saw the title and my first reaction was I'm sorry man
Thanks Agent Orange
Its good tho
Hell, ill straight up say it was *great*
I think that the characters are built in a consistent way, the shots are really awesome... I could tell about the scene that Varg, Euronymous and Faust(?) are watching the church burning, the Mayhem show, etc. Faust murdering that guy in the park is really gruesome, you can really feel what it's like to be stabbed in all over the body, the way they depict that guy suffering, holy fuck!! But I always remember some important characters that are mssing or events that were missing and idk... It feels incomplete but after all it's based on truth and lies. You really made me want to rewatch it
I watched it the day it came out and as a movie I thought it was really good. But when it comes down to what really happen. You hit the nail on the head! No one knows besides people who were there.
Totally agree with you. Greetings from Mexico! One of my favorite TH-camrs!
Da bin ich ganz bei dir! Und es ist schön zu sehen, dass du bemüht bist, möglichst objektiv zu bleiben. Ich gebe dir in allen Punkten recht. Gut rezensiert, gut getroffen!
Danke!
I am exaxtly the person who started to like metal music after this. I personally think that movie was great - I was so into searching all information about this theme after the movie ended. My only huge problem is how they portraited Euronymous - mostly in his ,,friendship" with Dead, that was so confusing for me, when I found out the reality. Thanks for this video btw. it isn`t common opinion to hear:)
Yeah, they made euronymous so frienship with others and is kinda weird
You hit the nail on the head when you said people hate it because it demystifies BM. It took the illusion of idealistic visionaries and turned them into sulky rebellious teens. That's what they were. But I think it takes a level of maturity to understand that and enjoy the film anyway.
dont forget that most of them flirted with some form of racism.. if they were really rebelious in the political sense they would have been more punk, they might create norwegian grindcore. But no - they wanted to be world famous, they wanted to shock by any means, they were elitist - but they didnt have any real content . Except from Varg - he was really serious about his neo-fascism.
i liked it because i didn't even expect a pure 100% documentary. the director did a good job, really. the actors were actually good as well. i take it as a drama. with interesting storyline. good reincarnations back to the 90s. when metalheads take this movie too seriously well THAT makes me cringe. just enjoy how music unites different people to make a moooviieeee.... it's enjoyable! thanks Frank
I just finished work and wanted to watch a movie. Now I know which one. Cheers Farvann!
Its kind of a comedy take on norwegian Black metal but with the different pictures (dawn of the Black hearts, bus/train station, live and band pictures) were very well recreated
That's actually one of the reasons I loved it. Yes, the story had a lot of things wrong. At the same time, I have seen a lot of black metal fans put these guys up on a pedastal. They kind of deserve it in the aspect that they have had a lot of influence on the genre. It wouldn't be anywhere near where it is without them. But at the end of the day, they were just a bunch of rebellious, angry, young people who took some shit way to far. They are all human in the end,and that's that.
Plus, they got a Jewish kid to play Varg. That's hilarious. Fuck that Nazi.
For me the biggest issue is not showing Euronymous's abuse towards Dead and saying the skull necklaces were fake (they weren't). Although from a story-telling point I get it cause you need to have at least one character who isn't an unredeemable asshole (although that should be Dead but they make him a cat-killer).
@@MollymaukT He supposedly did put a guinea pig in a jar of pickled herring he then put in a microwave after it refused to drown. After the owner asked him about the incident(screamed in horror at the sight), he apologized with “sorry, I seriously thought it was a hamster.” It’s not too far fetched an idea he’d shoot a cat for fun. But yeah neither really work to paint him as a good guy in the story
@@Ballin4VengeanceDead needed way more screen time in my opinion. They focused on making Euro the naive guy who got caugh in the image he so desperately wanted to represent (kinda true if to believe that he was all talk and no action). I wanted to see more of his relationship with Pelle. Apparently Euro would annoy him in some messed up ways. Like blasting the music so loudly that Pelle had to go outside and sleep in the woods. I remember Necrobutcher saying that Pelle had an ice skating accident. I guess he lied to cover up the truth that he was bullied. I was so excited that they were going to develop that part and show us how Pelle was struggling because of that. They literally just said that he died for a moment because of the damage (i don't remember they mentioned that it was his spleen) and that was it. Such a waste of showing us a good dynamics between Euro and Pelle. I expected that to be the first hour of the movie at least but i guess they wanted to spend more time on picturing Varg as a poser trying to impress Euronymous and attempting to make Euro himself more like a victim. They all deserved better. I feel bad for Pelle the most tho. Poor dude barely 22 years old away from home and family with clear mental problems. I don't understand why they didn't develop that to show us his struggles. On the other hand Pelle's family probably would't want to see that. When it comes to animals i only ever read about the guinea pig like you said. Apparently he wanted to kill a cat but never managed to? It's hard to define what is a lie and what is the truth. He did collect dead animals tho. That is for certain. Wish we had more information about what actually happened. Necro is the best source but he left the band after Pelle killed himself. Wonder how much he knew about Euro and Varg's relationship. I watched Varg's videos. I cannot say that i believe him since he always seemed to change the narration to suit him more (he literally said that Euronymous was homosexual) was it ever confirmed anywhere? I don't think so. So many questions and not many answers when it comes to these guys.
@@Isus24-s8eYou can’t trust Euronymous since he kinda dead and you can’t trust Varg because I can’t take a person who spent the last 15 years making YT videos about immigration and how he stabbed someone 23 times in the back and once in the head in “self-defence.”
The closest we have to Øystein’s supposed perspective of the story is Lords of Chaos.
In this case I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle between what Lords of Chaos tries to present and what Varg’s been telling.
@@Ballin4Vengeance You can't talk about immigration? The more I read comments from Varg haters, the more I like him. I have watched some interviews with him (in English) and I think, in some ways, he is like some 20-something regular at your local coffee shop who thinks he's edgy and gets his history from Howard Zinn and so forth, but I bet I would agree with him on immigration. In fact, I think in one interview he did touch on that topic. That a society must match its cultural beliefs. What is happening in almost all of Europe today is a dramatic opposite. Just because you disagree (or think you disagree) with one aspect of a person's ideology, it doesn't follow that you should outright dismiss everything that person says. Before Hitler found out that Mendelssohn was a Jew, he extolled the man's works. Afterwards, Mendelssohn's music was banned in German concert halls. When someone such as yourself comes along and says, "That man is a neo-Nazi; therefore, everything he says is wrong" you are, effectively, acting like Hitler. I'm saying don't fall into a tribalist trap but dare to have your own opinions rather than hide in the comfort of the crowd.
As for your comment about "self-defense", this is something I find ironic. A lot of people like to portray Varg as a cold-blooded narcissist and the irony is that the people who really lack empathy are the ones who type snarky comments from the comfort of a computer screen's glow without ever having had their own lives threatened. Empathy is the ability to relate to the experience of someone else. Your comment is very typical in the shit-on-Varg community in a lack of empathy. You express disgust for this man because he appears cold and heartless, and it is you who are cold and heartless. What would you have the man do? What would you have done in his position? Use your imagination! Have you never read a detective novel? Read an Agatha Christie book, or a Sherlock Holes story. Or read some criminal profiler books.
It's way more rewarding to actually think for yourself, even if you arrive at wrong conclusions, than it is to run with the herd and spit safe, non-controversial comments on YT.
Varg: 1 You: 0
I totally agree. As a movie, it's pretty good, and pretty enjoyable, regardless of how closely it adheres to reality.
I gotta say man, i never liked/understand black metal as a 10 years being metalheads. But Lord of Chaos introduced me to black metal (spiritual side) and today black metal is my most go-to genre when i want to listen to music.
Atmospheric and Cosmic Black Metal is my favourite genre of music only Vaporwave and Orchestral music comes close to being as good.
You have a right - Dead, Varg a re very common and not mythic as we always were thinking.
You said it about as true as it could have been said 👍🏻
I think a lot of people think one of the last scenes was cheesy, but I though it was the most savage thing I’ve ever seen 🍫 🥛
You should watch Necrobutcher's oppinion on the movie:)
It was gold!
You must watch varg's oppinion
Now THAT guy is metal 🤘
which version of it??
@@kgbstudio What do u mean?
Hello Farvann, I recommend you "Until the Light Takes Us", it's a black metal documentary, I don't know if you already watched it, but here it is.
Thank you for your videos, I really appreciate your work.
the movie is like a fanfic version of euronymous' life and it's actually such a fun watch.
It was a decent movie to me. It had some good moments but it was poorly written in some ways. Overall it was Enjoyable
I watched every Farvann vid in 2 days. I like u.
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After seeing this, i might actually go watch the movie. I've hold off for so long not to watch it cuz it's supposedly "bad", but as JUST a movie i think it could be kinda fun to watch
Go for it!! It is fun to watch
Why don't you see SpongeBob or something . If you just wanna see a movie , for just seeing a movie ? Instead of dishonering Nordic culture ? Why don't you listen to some White Supremacist Gospel Banjo Albums while you're at it . After all it's just music . Doesn't matter what it represents , or sounds like right ? Since filmmaking is all that matters , may as well just see anything that displays the art of filmmaking , why care about the subject, as long as it's done well
I ignored the bad things and ended up finding it somewhat enjoyable
What I find hillarious about Varg, is that he hates the fact he is and will be forever linked with that scene and Euronymous murder who he with his actions helped hype and immortalise long before he killed him. He is so pissed off with that, that he has tried to disconnect himself from blackmetal and his past.. AINT THAT HILLARIOUS!??
Seeing a Winds of Creation t shirt always makes me happy
I really liked it. If you can appreciate it for what it is and the fact that it never claimed to be 100% accurate in the first place. The acting was phenomenal, the whole atmosphere was incredible. I never knew anything about Mayhem to begin with, but it sparked my interest. Don’t care for the genre specifically, but I do love other sub genres of metal.
I do understand what do you mean, and you may be right about this thing of convincing more people to black metal through the movie or movies about bm in particulary. I had similiar situation, I knew black metal already, but it wasn't my favorite metal genre, I liked death metal more. Until I watched Until the Light Takes Us, and I was struck down by Fenriz and his approach to music, I started digging up this whole black metal thing and was in awe, how great it is. Sometimes we don't have someone to gide us in music sea, but sometimes some mainstream can be a hint for what we can look up. And that's a good thing.
As a cinematic production... it's pretty good. Solid story, character development, camera work, and overall well paced. That's the only way to look at it.
6:01 hes literally talking abt me lmaoo the first time I've actually heard of black metal was from the movie. Ik Ik bad way to start listening to black metal but I listened to it more and more after watching the movie and now I'm in love with Black metal
Damn - now I must watch it, too! Thnks, Farvann^^
I really do love the honesty
"Heavy Trip" ist immer noch die bessere origin story ;)
Yesss
Loved that movie
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This is a metal movie that all metalheads should watch.
Good analysis and good vision. Exceptional events, in an exceptional epoch and starring by normal people like nowadays you can find (even more crazy). But really was special to the origins of the scene. Great vid.
I share your option. If you ask each individual involved in those events, probably they’ll give you a different version of the story. So a “real/true” story is in the eye of the beholder. Ppl sometimes don’t get they were kids, that got into something bigger than they could handle. Of course the movie has it’s flaws but it’s an overall decent movie.
The guitarist was my favourite character. You know, non of them seemed like they're bad kids. They just took the whole black metal thing more seriously than they should.
Eh Euronymous was a jerk to everybody
And Varg took his beliefs to a whole another level which isn't wrong to fight for the things you belive in but he took a wrong path while doing it so
Per (Dead) Hellhammer and Necrobutcher were nicer tho
I've heard Per was just a chill and likeable dude that just had problems and the others were pretty much your average dudes
Bruh they’re Euro and varg and ultra nationalists, church burners and varg is murderer. They’re worse than bad kids
I totally agree. The story was so "true" feeling when Varg decided to make a glass of chocolate milk in the middle of committing murder.
This had nothing to do with the story. Know the difference between scene and story 😁
Thank you for coming down off of your high horse to argue semantics.
I totally agree. The scene was so "true" feeling when Varg decided to make a glass of chocolate milk in the middle of committing murder.
Awesome guy explains things in awesome way in order to be super awesome polite and it makes him awesome.
As someone not a fan of black metal, but has seen the movie, I wasn't a fan of the 'of the cuff' style of this initially. The waffling as if not to offend someone. But that initial impression was completely reversed shortly thereafter. This was an interesting and thoughtful review. Thanks.
I totally agree that Jonas Åkerlund's "Lords Of Chaos" movie is fine as a movie.
If someone is interested in learning more about the real story behind Norwegian Black Metal they may watch "Once Upon A Time In Norway" and "Until The Light Takes Us" documentaries.
You should watch a video called ""Lords of Chaos" vs The Metal Community", it explains why people were against it.
That was a great video.
that video sucked... the metal community disliked it because it exposes the shit behind the image. deal with it
Ye man i used to listen Heavy and trash metal music mostly and after this movie i start to listen black metal more often
P.s I love your channel keep going bro.🤘
Its the most famous story of its genre so im glad it will show some ppl something new n educate history like hedrix or marlet or elvis or nwa , every genre has its icons
Farvann my man dude brother of darkness keeper of riffs understanding the spiritual side of black metal is intrinsically linked to how makes you feel
I enjoyed it as a movie as well, like completely forgetting that it was supposed to be about the real Norwegian Black Metal scene, just watching it as a total fiction, and I thought it was really nice from that perspective.
funny thing it's all about varg, his music shows master skills.......................
The mystification of the black metal scene is probably how they wanted us to see them.
However I believe there is a big difference between certain individuals like Euronymous who was in it for the fame and rebellion whereas people like Varg or Dead definitely had a much deeper vision and ideas.
Based on Vargs writings on his old page, there has always been a certain spell to his music and what surrounds it, and that is what we, the listeners, can feel too.
Deads suicide was handled extremely well, Euro was far too skinny 😂 overall a good movie as a movie like you said
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Great video man! I think the most important thing is to understand what the film is before you watch it, and treat it that way. A lot of people maybe thought that the film was a "Who Are the Black Metal Community" documentary. You need to go into the film thinking that IT IS JUST A TAKE on an actual historic event. People don't want to be associated with cringy scenes and they felt that this film was trying to represent them, it never was trying to lol! So yeah! Watch it as a movie with an interesting plot, DON'T watch it as the definitive Black Metal film that represents the masses. LOL! I have listened to Black Metal for the majority of my life and I never saw the film, but I wouldn't get all upset about it either, you just have to know what it is. Keep up the cool videos man! PROST!!!
I am a headbanger since my teenage times (dont pay attention to the picture on my profile...now I am almost 40, I have to spent 90% percent of my time working in a very boring job), but I had never payed attention to black metal before the movie. It was the movie who made me search for black metal songs and I really liked the things I was listening to. And I can say that Black metal became one of my biggest music passions and interests.
I've been watching horror edits and when I tell you the amount of tik tok teen girls who make up all the horde of chaos movie edits, it's crazy. 😂
I saw the movie yesterday and I liked it..I don't know the metal scene but just as a movie, I think, its great...
You are so right ....its a movie and none of us as fans where there except them..and im sure alot of it was made to fit the movie and try to sell the movie as well.
I think, even despite its inaccuracies, it still told the story relatively well. And THANK YOU! Its great AS A MOVIE. Maybe not the best to tell the story about the origins of black metal, or the proper full story of Mayhem, but this is a great way to introduce a beginner (dare I say "normie") how truly dark their lives were and how it basically played out. And yeah, the expectations it gave are more real than the ones in our heads.
Great video, you said everything I wanted to say
I love Black Metal and honestly enjoyed the movie
Is an entertained movie, and for me was really funny compare the story explained in the movie to the one that was explained by Varg, absolutely different 😂
The movie definitely opened the door again to
Norwegian Black Metal. Before it was just Metalocalypse. I liked the beginning of the movie too, but they were definitely poking fun a lot.
I agree with you. I love Black Metal, I listen to it and I play my own, and its history is kind of fucked up but really fascinating. For me it was great to see that they made a movie about Black Metal! And I enjoyed it as a movie, the way it was intended.
Hails from Italy!
What's the name of your band or music production name??
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki It is called Apocalypse, I'll drop you a link if you want. I play music which is heavily influenced by the Bathory viking albums, dropping in some influences from other stuff like Black Metal or Classical music. The last album I made is a Death Metal album instead.
@@erymanthonseth9295 damn mate that actually sounds pretty radical, I love classical and Ambient Black Metal and Bathory, I also like Death Metal.
Yeah I'll check you out if you put a link.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Of course I forgot to reply to the comment, sorry! Here is the link of my latest music video anyway, if you are still interested :)
th-cam.com/video/ifMBF2EOOmo/w-d-xo.html
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki You can take a look around the channel, everything I did is there
This is a great movie : i saw it several time - some scenes are really fantastic and the story make sense - the acting is good -
it is the perfect description of the metalheads back in the end of the 80's/ begin of the 90's -
cause they were crazy metalheads after all, youngs and wild -
we don't know if everything is perfectly accurate, maybe not, but still, great movie to watch
It is pure slander.
Just watched it like a few weeks ago... The movie spoke for itself but not entirely about what really happened. Its sort of a "hey ever heard of what happened to the black metal scene back in the 90s?" kind of thing. Its a movie to spark the curious minds.
All in all though i found it interesting and made me read up some more. About everything revolving around yhe band and the genre itself
Even mayhem (hellhammer and especially necrobutcher) didn't like the movie.. If people want to see the real shit just look up on TH-cam for "until the light takes us" and the interview of mayhem with necrobutcher when they ask him about Lord's of chaos.. Very interesting.. Maybe it's a good movie but it's still a punch in the face when you know how varg really was/is.. They really fucked up varg and euronymous at this point.. but I get that a lot of people who don't know much about the charakters liked the movie..
i was reading "escape the fate" on his tshirt lol
(sorry for my english) I also really liked the film, I agree with you that many people did not like it because it destroys the idea of the story that had been made in their heads, instead the director Jonas Akerlund (which I love, Spun too for me it's wonderful) tells us, yes, they are the fathers of black metal etc. but remember they were just kids! Every time a scene of violence arrives (done very well) the film seems to stop to underline it, it seems to be there too with the protagonists and it makes the blood freeze in veins. The only thing that I think is a bit missing is to underline the fact that yes, they were kids, but they were also great geniuses and musicists and Akerlund occasionally seems to forget this thing.
....There is a spiritual side of black metal, not just feeling? I need to see this.
I am exactly the kind of person you are describing.
Not long ago, I came across the story of Mayhem and was totally intrigued, but honestly, confused. I have been a huge fan of bands like My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold, and Bring Me The Horizon (which, by the standards of the heavy scene, are pretty generic I guess). I never really gave much notice to black metal; I never really had any exposure and it felt inaccessible.
When I came across Mayhem, I ended up doing a lot of reading about the events that transpired and the history of black metal. I heard about Lords Of Chaos because same sources that I got information about black from were also blasting the movie for it being fraught with inaccuracies and ridiculous. So of course, I was interested. At this point I had still not really listened to Mayhem's music because I was intimidated.
So, I decided to watch the movie. I can't really pinpoint why exactly I watched it, as I knew it would not be a totally accurate portrayal of who these people were/are. The movie has plenty of cringy moments, but I did find myself entertained, some of the opaque veil of the mystery of black metal lifted. For me, it made the genre less intimidating. I found myself engrossed in the story, and when the live concert part came on, I was glued to the screen. I had never heard " The Freezing Moon" before, and I was hooked. I have now looked into Mayhem's discography, and while there is some music I don't really care for, the band has some truly incredible music that I now listen to regularly. Because of this movie, I am a lot more open to the genre of black metal!
I watched it one day a day after a party with a friend of mine that also is into black metal and know the history, it was a great fun, it made us laugh so hard. I have more distance now that I'm in my 30s.
I think contrapoints explains this feeling as best. The feeling of the movie is pure self cringe.
Oh shit, you’re absolutely right
Contra watched this?
@@YamnayaSintash no, she made a video essay about the concept of cringe
@Radle I like her...
How awesome would it be if Contra is into black metal, that dream would be awesome
Would have never checked out black metal if it wasn't for Lords of Chaos. I was bored, browsing Netflix, and just like Farvann said, the movie looked interesting and I gave it a watch and was hooked after 15 minutes. Before that I throught black metal is just what your grandma thinks all metal sounds like.
I love it that you reviewed it as a movie. It is a movie. Anyone whining about "facts" relating to a movie is just stupid. It's not supposes to be a documentary or a docudrama. It's a movie. Does anyone have a clue how little "based on a true story" movies usually have in common with the actual events?
I actually liked the movie. Even shocked me a bit, but also gave me kind of a nice nostalgia with the setup, the casettes and the outfits. But whenever Pelle hurt himself it made me fckn cry. Because I know, what Depression can lead to, how weird and misunderstood u feel when everyone thinks you're "not right" or "a failure in the system" or " You need to dress like a normal Person and listen to normal music". When he offed himself I completely lost myself and cried my eyes out. I could understand him, but it still broke my heart. And Varg... Don't even know why they ever let this Psychopath Ass*le out of prison. I still can't understand this. It was a tragic, but yet entertaining movie. I just wishe I called my best friend to watch it together with me and be my emotional support 😅
good shots, good actors, fun story. as ''just a movie'' i love it. its a fun movie
Great take on a sensitive subject. 🤙
You really should watch 'heavy trip/hevi reissu' !
Damn this movie was incredible.
Awesome movie hella funny
I have a question (Q&A). What do you think about the band Arckanum? When I watched your video about Finnish Black Metal that remind me on Arckanum style, but they are Swedish. (Arckanum is my favourite band btw).
Cheers!
i agree that it was well shot and directed! i liked it because i was able to take it for what it was, just entertainment. but i don't really get who it was made for. people who dont like black metal dont really want to watch a movie about black metal, and those who like the music don't want to watch a "cheap" movie that changes the story we know for entertainment purposes.
I didn't know a movie about Mayhem existed, yeah I thought everything that you did as well, although I still found it interesting and a bit fun, although yeah since I already knew everything and grew up with the story of Mayhem it wasn't the most important thing.
The director is a very skilled director. The actors are fine. The sets are cool etc. The story is quite fictionalized.
I enjoyed it, even though I know the story so well, partly because I like music movies but partly because I remember in 2003/2004 I really wanted to make a movie of this story myself but I never did and here it is.
Love your shirt, bro