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This taught me a lot I didn't know about enter the dragonfly behind the scenes, makes me hope that maybe the spyro 4 we get off of reignited takes ideas from the production and gives us the game we should have gotten back then more or less.
Nice job on the ups and downs of ETD. I was the lead artist on the orginal three Spyro games, and pitched the concept that became Spyro... and I have to say I was heartbroken the first time I tried to play ETD! It was VERY frustrating for me to leave Spyro behind when Insomniac left Universal to work directly with Sony, and this was made FAR worse when I finally saw what Universal had done to our little dragon! I have no idea how this game was ever allowed to ship.
@@gospyro Whats funny is the more I read about this game on TH-cam, the more I read with how badly Universal handled this game from as very early as the original GDD to print. Constant battling with Universal just showed how they were NEVER a great publisher to begin within, & without Insomniac & Sony's presence, it festered and destroyed both Spyro & Crash Bandicoot in less than two years.
@@TNVGAMING Yep. If you look at "Distruptor", Insomniac's very first game for the PS1, it garnered top reviews across the board... yet it hardly sold at all. One of the main reasons for this is Universal completely failed in promoting it. Universal bought a couple one page ads in a few magazines, and that was about it. I can remember walking into a game store right after it had come out and asking the guy behind the counter about it and he said, "Distruptor? Never heard of it"... I then pointed out that it was on the shelf directly behind him. Distruptor was never going to be an industry changer or a mega-hit, but Universals complete bungling of the marketing meant we didn't even sell out of the first printing. After Universal's bungling of marketing Distruptor, we were all VERY glad that Sony wanted to pick it up and take over marketing and distribution!!!
@@gospyro I remember disruptor! Honestly Universal got so lucky, so quickly not knowing what in the hell it was doing from day one. In an era where mascots likw "Bubsy" were more common than not, part of me is amazed Universal got as far as it did during the PS one era. However as I got older and did a lot more research, I became less amazed as I quickly realized how much Sony was involved and universal was nothing more than a middleman collecting cash off the backs of other people's work. If I remember correctly, I think Universal was partnering with Konami to distribute some of their early PS2, GameCube, & XBOX titles, which made them seem even more inept by that point lol
I'm so glad to have been a part of history here. A 20th anniversary celebration of one of the most infamous video games in history! Thank you for using my voice clip at the beginning, this video was a lot of fun and I enjoyed everyone else's opinions too. Enter the Dragonfly will forever have the "lost potential" legacy attached to it.
This was a very ambitious project, and I'm glad we got the editing done in such a timely manner! Thank you again to everyone who participated in contributing comments, critiques, and opinions!
Is it weird that this was my first Spyro game? As someone who started with this one, I’m so happy that more people are finally embracing the act of talking about the game and delving into what led to its downfall, despite most people wanting to pretend it never happened. We should be talking about this as an example of what not to do with game developing and the hardships of working for companies that push developers to time crunch, as well as an example of what companies and team leads should NOT do. 1:50 Omg, I was hoping someone would find this kind of bug! I used to see this happen with the brown riptoc in Dragonfly Dojo and, as bad as the game was, I still found it hilarious as a kid. Little did I know that this game was WAY more riddled with problems than I thought then. Honestly, Splatoon 3’s (which was released in 20-freaking-22) matchmaking loading times gave me secondhand EtD flashbacks. I swear the animation of the characters when they speak is like when someone cranks up the expression in Resi games to 200%.
Yeah I used to have ETD and upon realizing the glaring bugs/glitches and rushed development, I was in denial from admitting that the game was not great, since, I too, am also a huge Spyro fan, but sadly reality is a cruel eye opener 😔. I just wished the developers weren't forced to rush this game and were giving plenty time to polish the game and make it enjoyable, because ever since I played the demo on a PS2 Jampack disc, I was really anticipating the games release. However, I really do like this video you made, Miharu. And if we ever get a Spyro 4, developers would look back at ETD as reminder and not to repeat that mistake. You have an awesome day and here's ten bucks for ya!😉
I can’t be the only one who has very fond memories of this game? Seeing the mouse scientist guy brought back some core memories I had long forgotten. I can even hear the sound of his yell when you flame him and it’s been 20 years. It’s probably because I was only 7 when this came out with no real insight on what makes a “good” game. Either way I remember loving this game dearly.
We couldn’t even get a Crush and Gulp fight. It would’ve been interesting to see what new tricks they have in their boss fight. Especially, Crush who’s now more intelligent after pursuing higher learning. But nope, we can’t have nice things. I was so disappointed when I was kid and founded this out. I was so excited that they finally learned to talk now.
oh into the dragonfly. my parents knew i loved spyro, i played it at my grandpa's house all the time, but we didn't have a ps1 or 2, we just had a gamecube. so i actually sunk many, many, MANY hours into the game. i kind of loved it as a child. one day, though, while in the thieves den, my save file was struck with a major game breaking bug; everything began moving in slow motion. it's still that way today. i've kept the disk even now because i think the history behind it makes it a silly little thing to have. the first game i ever glitchhunted in.
This is a great video Miharu. I think that Spyro Enter the Dragonfly could’ve been a better if they took more time with the game instead of rushing it to release. There are definitely new ideas that was implemented into the game like different elemental breaths and different types of mini games. At that time, it was Universal Studios that was handling the game after parting ways with Sony.
Fantastic retrospective and analysis overall! I forgot to mention the fact that the dev team kept getting weird demands to change stuff very late in development, it wasn’t just about rushing. Though I do think it was an important factor. They probably did a lot of crunch too…
Honestly, I’d love to see what Toys for Bob could do with this game and giving it a Reignited style treatment, but instead of just a straight remake, keep the premise and build from there. For example- Keep the basic plot but bring Gnasty back into it and give us more details on how Ripto’s back (maybe say Gnasty resurrected him). Put some emphasis on why saving the dragonflies is so important- maybe also make it so we have to rescue Sparx early on to have a moment between him and Spyro. Tidy up the level design and make it good while keeping the level names and themes, keep the multiple breath types and maybe make new puzzles for each one, keep Reignited’s excellent control, and bam, you’ve got a good Spyro game.
It’s so cool to see all the different opinions on the game and the fact that legit everyone agrees this is a bad game is pretty funny. It must have taken a ton of time editing all of this together and going through everyone’s videos and making sure their points worked in your video. You 3 did such a good job putting this all together
This was an amazing video, holy shit! The editing was incredible; I wasn't sure how community input would be used, but the snippets of other's voices actually really added a lot to the video and made it a lot more enjoyable and feel more complete as a overview of the game. Great work from everyone :D
Like a lot of these folks, this was my introduction to Spyro. I actually remember liking it, knowing it was bad, and finding it hilarious to play. That being said, I do really love the level designs and to this day still feel the soundtrack is one of the best game soundtracks ever made. I always joked that they put half their budget into the music alone. Which, considering, might not have actually been a joke.
I remember being able to glitch the swimming animation in this one world in ETD. I can’t remember the name of the world, it’s shown at 2:10. I remember there being a pool of water that you could do this glitch in that let you charge-swim anywhere on the map. I thought it was fun to do this and be able to swim around and explore.
Enter the Dragonfly is the equivalent of Sonic Boom. You can see that the teams wanted to finish it, wanted to give it more except the time restraints and toxic environment that was happening - that is really sad. My sister and I had such a ball playing this game, and still do. We found an admiration for this game where we would create our own stories and what ifs to fill the openness of the game. The controls on the PS2 were delayed and it took me alot longer to get a handle of than my sister that took to it quite easily. It will always be part of the Spyro collection of favourite games for us, the memories we made from playing it is what made it so much fun. Favourite NPCs? The tourist Dinosaurs. ❤
This game is also an excellent lesson in letting the creatives get on with it while higher ups figure out how to give them the resources and time they need.
Great video Miharu and I was happy to share how I felt about ETD. The history of this game is amazing just as every new discovery made about it. Still, it would have been great to see the developers make the game they intended ETD to be.
Thank you for uploading this. The thing that disappoints me the most about this game is that everything presented in ETD has the groundwork for being a great Spyro game. Varied breaths and some of the minigames were quite fun to play around with, but the stylization of this game is surprisingly faithful to Spyro's origins. The music and sound effects fit right into a Spyro game. The characters, the architecture of the levels, hell, even the skyboxes are all emblematic of what Spyro should look like on the PS2. Everything to make another fantastic Spyro hit is here! It is a goddamn shame this game did not get more time in the oven. Had the devs been able to mold this game into what they really wanted, they could have delivered on a product that could very well have left as big of a mark as the PS1 masterpieces. Shit, they really seemed to know what they were doing here, but.. Just not enough time or leeway from others to polish it up and make it great. :(
In some ways it's rather a shame yet ironic that both the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro series started both sliding downhill around the same time that the "ps2 era" kicked off. Real shame, imagine a world in which both series had instead been treated with the love and care they deserved.
Thank you so much for making this video. This game has so much potential, but was doomed from the start. I'd love to see it be remade into what it could've been instead of what we got. I would've loved to have participated but I don't think I would've known what to do or how to do it. Thank you again. I get so tired of people just hating on this game, when it doesn't deserve it. I understand the disappointment yes (I was there back then) but not the hate.
Positives: the concept of elemental breaths, updated textures, good premise. Negatives: boring minigames (seriously I almost fell asleep driving that tractor about) and severe lag!
Scary and sad fact: A 4 year old had epileptic seizures that presumably was caused by the glitches and it lead to permanent damage. This seizure was followed by a lawsuit. Idk why developers can’t play test their games before releasing them. FIY to the any video game developer, play test your games before releasing them. Seizures like this can happen.
This was the only video game that ever gave me nausea. No wonder. My foster parent forbid me from playing video games for more than an hour because of this.
I just like how folks like oddheader and Shesez have been finding cut content in this mess of a game including an unused boss arena that hinted at something different at one point in development.
So it was basically every second Sonic game... maybe buggier. And you covered Copeland! These soundtracks are so good, maybe most of the reason I play sometimes
Totally agree with a lot of the points. I remember worrying about whether my disc was glitched but I found out later that it was just horribly done. Sure, it was frustrating as hell to do the usual stuff in the game. I'd play the original trilogy through enough times where I'd consider myself an expert :P but dealing with the not-so-perfect guilding and the slippery dragonflies was a pain. And that final boss came with so many issues it was ages before I beat it. The constant game overs because I kept getting hit and couldn't recover in time to avoid future hits- it was super annoying. Yet the game has its charms. I've played it through a few more times and the glitches don't always screw me up so I get some enjoyment out of it. But on any given day, I'd rather speedrun the original Spyro game than play Enter the Dragonfly
As horrible as this game was, I considered it to be something of a guilty pleasure. Then again, I was one of the people who got the Gamecube version. But yeah, the permanent breath abilities definitely improved Spyro and the Wing Shield ability could have been a mainstay.
Ugg…typical higher up interventions wanting there developers too hurry up and don’t care if they release a half finished product because cash flow. Just want to punch activision for there impatient/greedy actions
I'm glad at the end you put in perspectives from some people who liked this game. On release I 100%'d it and I remember enjoying it. As Tabreeze said, the game that turned me off of the series was Hero's Tail. I got that one for Christmas, played it for about an hour, and never picked up a Spyro game again.
AHT is okay. I’m a huge fan of the soundtrack for the Spyro series and seeing that the music sounded nothing like Spyro is what demotivated me from finishing the game, hence why ETD is the one I finished instead lol 😆 I do like some of the humor in AHT, I’m a sucker for some fourth wall breaking humor now thanks to Phineas and Ferb 😄 but overall my least favorite Spyro game.
I think with all the pains that they went through making Enter the Dragonfly, combined with the fact that it was extremely rushed before it was fully ready, made Spyro: A Hero's Tail a better game. They knew what worked and stuck with it and didn't go with anything outlandish or crazy. I wish they had been able to fully finish Enter the Dragonfly before it was released. It has its merits, but man does that game suck in large parts.
Incredible vid! I still can’t believe this game originally retailed for $50. I got it for Christmas back in 2002, and I just couldn’t get over how terrible it was. Crop Circle Country is where I had enough.
:D Thank you so much Miharu for this opertunity and was super happy to provide for it, sadly my Mic is not entirely up to scratch but did what it needed to do!
@@MiharuTheFox Heh, I did write a script out multiple times and thought on it because a few hours before I started the script I was coding so it was still fresh in my mind!
unfortunatly broken games now like vanguard and arguable mw2 2022 are getting overlooked and all new broken games are not getting as much backlash like cyberpunk and newer gamers dont want to critisise them
Christmas 2002 was the year I did get my PS2 plenty of DVD’s and Games for my PS2 got this Game and immediately realized something was wrong especially Ripto being back… Since I had just beaten him 2 years prior. The Sorceress would have made more sense. Since her Arm comes up at the end of the Third Game! With all the flaws I still like it even though I was 15 when it came out… It was my last Spyro Game on PS2 I never even played A Heroes Tail. I considered that Game the end of the current PS1-PS2 Spyro’s. I didn’t even bother played the PS2 Trilogy Reboot since it didn’t look like. Spyro nor did it have any voice actors plus it had NPH which was a pass for me. But reignited Trilogy was a return to form for me. Hopefully we get a True Spyro 4.
Her arm coming out of the lava was at the end of her first fight. There was a second boss fight in the Super Bonus Round. The Sorceress still being alive after 2 separate fights would've been a bit much.
Just imagine if Activision confirm the fourth Spyro game from the remakes and it turns out to be a remake of this one but done right with all the planned features and then some I’d rather they fix this one then try to come up with a completely new story
the ideas of this game are the best ideas in a spyro game but were poorly executed with bugs and glitches but i liked all the ideas from the levels to the dragonflys but hopefully the remaster that modders are doing fixes it and it looks great by making the levels memerabal
agreed the remake will be the most entertainign spyro game it has so much potential just bugs bringing it down and people will see with the remaster of the game plus all the missing levels will be incuded cutthroat cove and baked alaska aswell as enchanted forest
I loved this game as a kid. My only issues with it were the framerate and control, both of which could have been fixed with a remaster. But the music, the environments, and what little i understood from the story, all that I liked. Some of the animations were weird but i found them charming for the most part.
Spyro Enter the Dragon is definitely a bad spyro game; not just a technical level, but a design wise 1 step forward, 1 step back and ends up with interesting concepts with poor execution.
Omg, just from the thumbnail preview, I thought " I wasn't the only one?!!" I got this game with my PS2 when it came out, and, it being 20 years, I don't remember why, but I hated this game, after growing up loving the original trilogy
I ended up getting so frustrated with my copy of this game I traded it in at my local game store. Now I wish I didn't because I want it back. I wanna relieve the the jank filled nostalgia of Enter the Dragonfly.
I hope that this true Spyro 4 game is what a fourth Spyro game is supposed to be. I don't care if it's the opposite of what Enter The Dragonfly is. All these things considered, that is.
Man you can tell the massive differences in look and gameplay when Crash and Spyro left thier OG developers. Not blaming the devs. They had to deal with new technology along with unreasonable deadlines and demands from Universal Interactive. As a 9 year old kid I liked the game. It didn't seem any different from the PS1 games to me.
I beat the original 3 as a child. Christmas 2002 the first gift I opened was this game. I then learned I also got a PS2! This was the first I played on my new system. I hated it. The load times, the glitches, the graphics. It was so bad.
Definitely remember renting this back then and not being able to progress because i couldn't find how to access Cloud 9. Now its in my PS2 collection and its on my HDD...Expect the game is so buggy that loading the game from the HDD makes it freeze all over the places and corrupted my save file after one level because it froze during an autosave.
I loved the evil dragon concept it sounded way better heck I would've been fine with gnasty gnorc revenge arc as well there was so much meddling from the higher ups and other publishers it was a big mess just as bad as WOC. The fact you can complete this in one glitch is damn ridiculous. I'm all for a major ground up remake but alas I hope spyros new game whatever that may be doesn't suffer the same fate as this one. There are some cool things in this game but all the negative muddles it so badly its quite sad
This was the first Spyro game I remember playing, and I remember it being one of my least played GameCube games. Easy to see why in retrospect. Even as someone who isn't a lover of the PS1 games besides Year of the Dragon, this is such a disastrous and corporate excuse for a next-gen sequel.
*Wow! Thanks for the new video on the the history of the mixed /panned reviewed 2002 Spyro:Enter the Dragonfly video game, **#MiharuTheFox**!* ;D Despite its rough edges and moderate amount of positive attritbutes, hopefully this will be a lesson learned from ancient history to positively improve and evolve the Spyro the Dragon video game franchise in the future! If Crash Bandicoot abd Sonic the Hedgehog for examples can evolve and make a comeback (i.e 2020 Crash Bandicoot 4:It's About Time and 2022 Sonic:Frontiers video games respectively), then so can Spyro the Dragon!* ;D *Here's hoping and praying, guys and gals!*
OMG I FIRST HEARD OF SPYRO FROM ENTER THE DRAGONFLY, I reference it when catching up with my favorite cousins and even got it again for the ps2. I love this game even with the glitches and really wish it had a remake cause I loved it. Dragonfly was my baby and even after 20 years I still love it
This was the only video game that ever gave me nausea as is described in the warning in the instruction booklet. My foster parent forbid me from playing video games for more than an hour because of this.
Mr. FO1 does good with coverage with the game, cut content, oddities and has some long videos over the development related stuff. I would recommend it if people are interested to see more of the things in the game in particular.
Funny enough the spyro games I enjoyed the most was the legend of spyro games. My brother and I grew up on spyro but two different spyro's. He's a little let down I still never beaten the og games but I did have fun telling him as well as my friends who never played the legend of spyro games that sparks was a key important character who talks a lot for one and spyro using different elements. I do wanna try the other spyro games sometime or perhaps one day this game could actually get a remake to fix the flaws the game had.
I remember getting the game for my birthday on the GameCube and being a little put off by it as well. I was 10 so of course I couldn't put my finger on why it felt so off. Years later when I was a teenager, I got the PS2 copy from a friend and went back through it and knew why. I know the game is bad and glitchy at best, but it was entertaining at the very least. I will replay it every now and then but I expect it to be a laughable experience. It at least inspired some good memories with friends and unique glitch experiences. I guess it's kind of like pizza - even sucky pizza can be edible. Even sucky games can be playable.
I really do hope the folks behind Reignited series come back to fix or redo Spyro 4 with its original ideas, better looks, music stays the same (or remix it like they did), and possibly throw in planned glitches and being like "jk lol! Gotcha" as a call back to they heard people's fears for the game.
The character models do look like the PS1 models, however, they look like the PS1 models but with more polygons. By that I mean, they look like as if G Six took the PS1 models and added extra polygons rather then recreating the models from the scratch based on Charles Zembillas' art direction. Kind of like the recent GTA Definitive Edition.
It was a good video, but the problem is that the title is wrong. Because if this game does killed Spyro, then the Hero's Tail, the Legend series, and probably Spyro in Skylanders wouldn't exist. And Hero's Tail came out 2 years after Enter the Dragonfly. Honestly, the title should've called "The Game That (Almost) Killed Spyro".
Technically it's not wrong. In the documentary, ETD is described as "the game that obliterated a legend". It didn't kill the series entirely, but it did kill the Spyro we knew and loved.
Great video Miharu!! I got this game Christmas 2004 .... but was disappointed that it didn't have that same vibe or feeling i got when i played the original trilogy. Least to say buggy, glitchy & painfully slow. I last played this game November 2018 (in the lead up to Reignited Trilogy) but wow it was exactly how i remembered so i had to use the "swim in the air" glitch to get around. But wherever there are negative's are usually some positives.
I remember this game, I really wanted to like it, to me the main thing was that the character models looked ugly & the acting was terrible, the bugs didn't bother me too much but are much more noticable as an adult. This is one game that truly deserves the Reignited treatment, to get it right the second time
Bought and still own this game back when it first came out and yikes. The main thing I remember is knowing from the first intro cut scene that something was very off. I felt like I was playing a preschoolers game. The game was very baseline easy and the creepy characters models looking like some preschooler's morning cartoon. I know I fully finished the game, and have never replayed it since. I simply have a bad recollection of the game and simply just didn't like it. Which was sad because I LOVED the trilogy that came before. Back then, I knew why it wasn't the same. Because it wasn't made by Insomniac (I knew they left, the end of spyro 3 they left a message that this was the last from that development company) I saw "Universal" was in charge and even back then I knew that was the reason the game was bad.
Over a month in the making, this is my longest regular video yet! Let me know what you guys think, and if you'd like to see more videos like this in the future! Credits and links in the description.
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This taught me a lot I didn't know about enter the dragonfly behind the scenes, makes me hope that maybe the spyro 4 we get off of reignited takes ideas from the production and gives us the game we should have gotten back then more or less.
I still think TLOS killed Spyro becuause AHT Was made after this game ETD is good game lol and AHT is just goates lol speedrunners love ETD lol
@@kiddeath5273 I disagree, I think Skylanders killed spyro as they pushed him aside, I actually like the legend series myself.
Nice job on the ups and downs of ETD.
I was the lead artist on the orginal three Spyro games, and pitched the concept that became Spyro... and I have to say I was heartbroken the first time I tried to play ETD!
It was VERY frustrating for me to leave Spyro behind when Insomniac left Universal to work directly with Sony, and this was made FAR worse when I finally saw what Universal had done to our little dragon! I have no idea how this game was ever allowed to ship.
Omg hi Craig! Thanks for stopping by to watch!
@@MiharuTheFox I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have! (and that I can remember the answers to!!!)
@@gospyro Whats funny is the more I read about this game on TH-cam, the more I read with how badly Universal handled this game from as very early as the original GDD to print. Constant battling with Universal just showed how they were NEVER a great publisher to begin within, & without Insomniac & Sony's presence, it festered and destroyed both Spyro & Crash Bandicoot in less than two years.
@@TNVGAMING Yep. If you look at "Distruptor", Insomniac's very first game for the PS1, it garnered top reviews across the board... yet it hardly sold at all. One of the main reasons for this is Universal completely failed in promoting it. Universal bought a couple one page ads in a few magazines, and that was about it. I can remember walking into a game store right after it had come out and asking the guy behind the counter about it and he said, "Distruptor? Never heard of it"... I then pointed out that it was on the shelf directly behind him. Distruptor was never going to be an industry changer or a mega-hit, but Universals complete bungling of the marketing meant we didn't even sell out of the first printing.
After Universal's bungling of marketing Distruptor, we were all VERY glad that Sony wanted to pick it up and take over marketing and distribution!!!
@@gospyro I remember disruptor! Honestly Universal got so lucky, so quickly not knowing what in the hell it was doing from day one. In an era where mascots likw "Bubsy" were more common than not, part of me is amazed Universal got as far as it did during the PS one era. However as I got older and did a lot more research, I became less amazed as I quickly realized how much Sony was involved and universal was nothing more than a middleman collecting cash off the backs of other people's work.
If I remember correctly, I think Universal was partnering with Konami to distribute some of their early PS2, GameCube, & XBOX titles, which made them seem even more inept by that point lol
It was a pleasure to be part of this project and add my input about ETD. Great work, Miharu and everyone else! ^^
Dear lord, the off model miharu is a great jab at hunter's animation but that's certainly unnerving XD
that's Miharu the WOAHWAO
Off-model Miharu? Where?
@@FerreTrip in the thumbnail
@@metageek7878 Oh God yeah I see it now O_O
It was an honor participating in this project ^^ I look forward to working with you again in the future!
Its the shame i want spyro comeback in 2024
I'm so glad to have been a part of history here. A 20th anniversary celebration of one of the most infamous video games in history! Thank you for using my voice clip at the beginning, this video was a lot of fun and I enjoyed everyone else's opinions too. Enter the Dragonfly will forever have the "lost potential" legacy attached to it.
Fantastic retrospective of ETD, great work Miharu and everyone who contributed to this video project
This is the first Super Thanks I've ever gotten! Thank you so much!
kinda crazy how both Crash and Spyro both had janky 4th games before having a pretty solid 5th game
This was a very ambitious project, and I'm glad we got the editing done in such a timely manner! Thank you again to everyone who participated in contributing comments, critiques, and opinions!
8:01 "And... Bubbles?"
Nostalgia Critic: *nervous sweating*
Is it weird that this was my first Spyro game? As someone who started with this one, I’m so happy that more people are finally embracing the act of talking about the game and delving into what led to its downfall, despite most people wanting to pretend it never happened. We should be talking about this as an example of what not to do with game developing and the hardships of working for companies that push developers to time crunch, as well as an example of what companies and team leads should NOT do.
1:50 Omg, I was hoping someone would find this kind of bug! I used to see this happen with the brown riptoc in Dragonfly Dojo and, as bad as the game was, I still found it hilarious as a kid. Little did I know that this game was WAY more riddled with problems than I thought then. Honestly, Splatoon 3’s (which was released in 20-freaking-22) matchmaking loading times gave me secondhand EtD flashbacks. I swear the animation of the characters when they speak is like when someone cranks up the expression in Resi games to 200%.
This game is the Spyro equivalent of Sonic 06. Change my mind
It's no use!
Agreed. Those glitches were so bad
Yeah I used to have ETD and upon realizing the glaring bugs/glitches and rushed development, I was in denial from admitting that the game was not great, since, I too, am also a huge Spyro fan, but sadly reality is a cruel eye opener 😔. I just wished the developers weren't forced to rush this game and were giving plenty time to polish the game and make it enjoyable, because ever since I played the demo on a PS2 Jampack disc, I was really anticipating the games release. However, I really do like this video you made, Miharu. And if we ever get a Spyro 4, developers would look back at ETD as reminder and not to repeat that mistake. You have an awesome day and here's ten bucks for ya!😉
Thanks for the Super Thanks!
I can’t be the only one who has very fond memories of this game? Seeing the mouse scientist guy brought back some core memories I had long forgotten. I can even hear the sound of his yell when you flame him and it’s been 20 years. It’s probably because I was only 7 when this came out with no real insight on what makes a “good” game. Either way I remember loving this game dearly.
We couldn’t even get a Crush and Gulp fight.
It would’ve been interesting to see what new tricks they have in their boss fight.
Especially, Crush who’s now more intelligent after pursuing higher learning.
But nope, we can’t have nice things.
I was so disappointed when I was kid and founded this out.
I was so excited that they finally learned to talk now.
oh into the dragonfly. my parents knew i loved spyro, i played it at my grandpa's house all the time, but we didn't have a ps1 or 2, we just had a gamecube. so i actually sunk many, many, MANY hours into the game. i kind of loved it as a child. one day, though, while in the thieves den, my save file was struck with a major game breaking bug; everything began moving in slow motion. it's still that way today. i've kept the disk even now because i think the history behind it makes it a silly little thing to have. the first game i ever glitchhunted in.
Every single character in this game looks like they could swallow you whole and would have an endlessly looping maze dimension inside them.
Happy to contribute for it, Miharu. ^^ That definitely felt like a deeper iceberg than I gave it credit for. XP
This is a great video Miharu. I think that Spyro Enter the Dragonfly could’ve been a better if they took more time with the game instead of rushing it to release. There are definitely new ideas that was implemented into the game like different elemental breaths and different types of mini games. At that time, it was Universal Studios that was handling the game after parting ways with Sony.
Fantastic retrospective and analysis overall! I forgot to mention the fact that the dev team kept getting weird demands to change stuff very late in development, it wasn’t just about rushing. Though I do think it was an important factor. They probably did a lot of crunch too…
I remember liking ETD. But, I was never the biggest Spyro guy and I appreciate it more now. I must've been crazy but I will have to replay it.
Honestly, I’d love to see what Toys for Bob could do with this game and giving it a Reignited style treatment, but instead of just a straight remake, keep the premise and build from there. For example-
Keep the basic plot but bring Gnasty back into it and give us more details on how Ripto’s back (maybe say Gnasty resurrected him). Put some emphasis on why saving the dragonflies is so important- maybe also make it so we have to rescue Sparx early on to have a moment between him and Spyro.
Tidy up the level design and make it good while keeping the level names and themes, keep the multiple breath types and maybe make new puzzles for each one, keep Reignited’s excellent control, and bam, you’ve got a good Spyro game.
It’s so cool to see all the different opinions on the game and the fact that legit everyone agrees this is a bad game is pretty funny. It must have taken a ton of time editing all of this together and going through everyone’s videos and making sure their points worked in your video. You 3 did such a good job putting this all together
This was an amazing video, holy shit!
The editing was incredible; I wasn't sure how community input would be used, but the snippets of other's voices actually really added a lot to the video and made it a lot more enjoyable and feel more complete as a overview of the game.
Great work from everyone :D
Like a lot of these folks, this was my introduction to Spyro. I actually remember liking it, knowing it was bad, and finding it hilarious to play.
That being said, I do really love the level designs and to this day still feel the soundtrack is one of the best game soundtracks ever made. I always joked that they put half their budget into the music alone. Which, considering, might not have actually been a joke.
I remember being able to glitch the swimming animation in this one world in ETD. I can’t remember the name of the world, it’s shown at 2:10. I remember there being a pool of water that you could do this glitch in that let you charge-swim anywhere on the map. I thought it was fun to do this and be able to swim around and explore.
Enter the Dragonfly is the equivalent of Sonic Boom. You can see that the teams wanted to finish it, wanted to give it more except the time restraints and toxic environment that was happening - that is really sad. My sister and I had such a ball playing this game, and still do. We found an admiration for this game where we would create our own stories and what ifs to fill the openness of the game. The controls on the PS2 were delayed and it took me alot longer to get a handle of than my sister that took to it quite easily.
It will always be part of the Spyro collection of favourite games for us, the memories we made from playing it is what made it so much fun.
Favourite NPCs? The tourist Dinosaurs. ❤
I am so glad to have participated in this video! Great job, collaborative effort and research done, miharu, once again!
This game is also an excellent lesson in letting the creatives get on with it while higher ups figure out how to give them the resources and time they need.
Great video Miharu and I was happy to share how I felt about ETD. The history of this game is amazing just as every new discovery made about it. Still, it would have been great to see the developers make the game they intended ETD to be.
Man I miss the sound when you defeat a ninja riptoc in Dragon Dojo *_(ÆURGH)_*
Fun fact: it’s also the same sound the Rhynocs in Molten Crater make when you defeat them.
Thank you for uploading this. The thing that disappoints me the most about this game is that everything presented in ETD has the groundwork for being a great Spyro game. Varied breaths and some of the minigames were quite fun to play around with, but the stylization of this game is surprisingly faithful to Spyro's origins.
The music and sound effects fit right into a Spyro game. The characters, the architecture of the levels, hell, even the skyboxes are all emblematic of what Spyro should look like on the PS2. Everything to make another fantastic Spyro hit is here!
It is a goddamn shame this game did not get more time in the oven. Had the devs been able to mold this game into what they really wanted, they could have delivered on a product that could very well have left as big of a mark as the PS1 masterpieces. Shit, they really seemed to know what they were doing here, but.. Just not enough time or leeway from others to polish it up and make it great. :(
I love the long video! I think you have good potential on making analysis on infamous games or nostalgic games.
If this game had more time it could have been good
In some ways it's rather a shame yet ironic that both the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro series started both sliding downhill around the same time that the "ps2 era" kicked off. Real shame, imagine a world in which both series had instead been treated with the love and care they deserved.
The difference is what Crash became was still fun for me. Tag Team and Mutant are my favorite games in the series.
Thank you so much for making this video. This game has so much potential, but was doomed from the start. I'd love to see it be remade into what it could've been instead of what we got. I would've loved to have participated but I don't think I would've known what to do or how to do it. Thank you again. I get so tired of people just hating on this game, when it doesn't deserve it. I understand the disappointment yes (I was there back then) but not the hate.
This game holds so much nostalgia for me I wish it could be remade into a proper game.
Positives: the concept of elemental breaths, updated textures, good premise.
Negatives: boring minigames (seriously I almost fell asleep driving that tractor about) and severe lag!
Scary and sad fact: A 4 year old had epileptic seizures that presumably was caused by the glitches and it lead to permanent damage. This seizure was followed by a lawsuit. Idk why developers can’t play test their games before releasing them.
FIY to the any video game developer, play test your games before releasing them. Seizures like this can happen.
or read the warning manual before buying children or younger siblings video games about potential seizures
Yep, that was mentioned in the documentary. Honestly with how bad this game's effects could get, I'm shocked that was the only documented case.
This was the only video game that ever gave me nausea. No wonder. My foster parent forbid me from playing video games for more than an hour because of this.
I just like how folks like oddheader and Shesez have been finding cut content in this mess of a game including an unused boss arena that hinted at something different at one point in development.
This was a neat video and nice to see the varying opinions on people for positive, negative, and even neutral stances
So it was basically every second Sonic game... maybe buggier. And you covered Copeland! These soundtracks are so good, maybe most of the reason I play sometimes
That’s why I’m a fan of the game in the first place and heck the Spyro series overall! 😄
Totally agree with a lot of the points. I remember worrying about whether my disc was glitched but I found out later that it was just horribly done. Sure, it was frustrating as hell to do the usual stuff in the game. I'd play the original trilogy through enough times where I'd consider myself an expert :P but dealing with the not-so-perfect guilding and the slippery dragonflies was a pain. And that final boss came with so many issues it was ages before I beat it. The constant game overs because I kept getting hit and couldn't recover in time to avoid future hits- it was super annoying. Yet the game has its charms. I've played it through a few more times and the glitches don't always screw me up so I get some enjoyment out of it. But on any given day, I'd rather speedrun the original Spyro game than play Enter the Dragonfly
As horrible as this game was, I considered it to be something of a guilty pleasure. Then again, I was one of the people who got the Gamecube version. But yeah, the permanent breath abilities definitely improved Spyro and the Wing Shield ability could have been a mainstay.
Ugg…typical higher up interventions wanting there developers too hurry up and don’t care if they release a half finished product because cash flow. Just want to punch activision for there impatient/greedy actions
I'm glad at the end you put in perspectives from some people who liked this game. On release I 100%'d it and I remember enjoying it. As Tabreeze said, the game that turned me off of the series was Hero's Tail. I got that one for Christmas, played it for about an hour, and never picked up a Spyro game again.
That's what happened with me and The Eternal Night.
AHT is okay. I’m a huge fan of the soundtrack for the Spyro series and seeing that the music sounded nothing like Spyro is what demotivated me from finishing the game, hence why ETD is the one I finished instead lol 😆
I do like some of the humor in AHT, I’m a sucker for some fourth wall breaking humor now thanks to Phineas and Ferb 😄 but overall my least favorite Spyro game.
I think with all the pains that they went through making Enter the Dragonfly, combined with the fact that it was extremely rushed before it was fully ready, made Spyro: A Hero's Tail a better game. They knew what worked and stuck with it and didn't go with anything outlandish or crazy. I wish they had been able to fully finish Enter the Dragonfly before it was released. It has its merits, but man does that game suck in large parts.
I disowned that game after playing it. It had too many glitches and bugs in it. Thank god for the Reignited trilogy.
Incredible vid! I still can’t believe this game originally retailed for $50. I got it for Christmas back in 2002, and I just couldn’t get over how terrible it was. Crop Circle Country is where I had enough.
:D Thank you so much Miharu for this opertunity and was super happy to provide for it, sadly my Mic is not entirely up to scratch but did what it needed to do!
Your submission was great! That "bug's paradise" line was so funny I was like "Oh I have to use that" 😂
@@MiharuTheFox Heh, I did write a script out multiple times and thought on it because a few hours before I started the script I was coding so it was still fresh in my mind!
Thank you for the video my queen ❤😢
This is easily your best vid miharu! Great job!
Great video Miharu! Glad to support. And yes Loading Screens is absolute the worst.
unfortunatly broken games now like vanguard and arguable mw2 2022 are getting overlooked and all new broken games are not getting as much backlash like cyberpunk and newer gamers dont want to critisise them
Christmas 2002 was the year I did get my PS2 plenty of DVD’s and Games for my PS2 got this Game and immediately realized something was wrong especially Ripto being back… Since I had just beaten him 2 years prior. The Sorceress would have made more sense. Since her Arm comes up at the end of the Third Game! With all the flaws I still like it even though I was 15 when it came out… It was my last Spyro Game on PS2 I never even played A Heroes Tail. I considered that Game the end of the current PS1-PS2 Spyro’s. I didn’t even bother played the PS2 Trilogy Reboot since it didn’t look like. Spyro nor did it have any voice actors plus it had NPH which was a pass for me. But reignited Trilogy was a return to form for me. Hopefully we get a True Spyro 4.
Her arm coming out of the lava was at the end of her first fight. There was a second boss fight in the Super Bonus Round. The Sorceress still being alive after 2 separate fights would've been a bit much.
@@MiharuTheFox Thanks for letting me know. Got it mixed up 😂
@@JWUniverse To be fair I wouldn't blame you for forgetting that second fight lol
Just imagine if Activision confirm the fourth Spyro game from the remakes and it turns out to be a remake of this one but done right with all the planned features and then some I’d rather they fix this one then try to come up with a completely new story
Great video Miharu! Glad to support!
the ideas of this game are the best ideas in a spyro game but were poorly executed with bugs and glitches but i liked all the ideas from the levels to the dragonflys but hopefully the remaster that modders are doing fixes it and it looks great by making the levels memerabal
agreed the remake will be the most entertainign spyro game it has so much potential just bugs bringing it down and people will see with the remaster of the game plus all the missing levels will be incuded cutthroat cove and baked alaska aswell as enchanted forest
I loved this game as a kid. My only issues with it were the framerate and control, both of which could have been fixed with a remaster. But the music, the environments, and what little i understood from the story, all that I liked. Some of the animations were weird but i found them charming for the most part.
This was unexpectedly hilarious. Glad to hear everyone's different perspectives on this abomination.
Spyro Enter the Dragon is definitely a bad spyro game; not just a technical level, but a design wise 1 step forward, 1 step back and ends up with interesting concepts with poor execution.
Omg, just from the thumbnail preview, I thought " I wasn't the only one?!!" I got this game with my PS2 when it came out, and, it being 20 years, I don't remember why, but I hated this game, after growing up loving the original trilogy
I think this will be the video that blows your channel up! (In a good way!)
The response has been amazing so far!! 😁
Here we go!
I ended up getting so frustrated with my copy of this game I traded it in at my local game store.
Now I wish I didn't because I want it back. I wanna relieve the the jank filled nostalgia of Enter the Dragonfly.
Great video Miharu:)
5:36 I did this as a kid when I got the game on ps2 and was like "...how does this work?..."
Great vid! Had this games a kid and never got past the ufo bit, still want to go back and actually beat it at some point.
I hope that this true Spyro 4 game is what a fourth Spyro game is supposed to be. I don't care if it's the opposite of what Enter The Dragonfly is.
All these things considered, that is.
Man you can tell the massive differences in look and gameplay when Crash and Spyro left thier OG developers.
Not blaming the devs. They had to deal with new technology along with unreasonable deadlines and demands from Universal Interactive.
As a 9 year old kid I liked the game. It didn't seem any different from the PS1 games to me.
What did you think of Square Eyed Jak's review?
I don't really watch SEJ.
everyone knows that ripto came back because he respawned. ripto can respawn. /j
when the teacher goes around the class and makes everyone read 1 paragraph
I beat the original 3 as a child. Christmas 2002 the first gift I opened was this game. I then learned I also got a PS2! This was the first I played on my new system. I hated it. The load times, the glitches, the graphics. It was so bad.
Definitely remember renting this back then and not being able to progress because i couldn't find how to access Cloud 9.
Now its in my PS2 collection and its on my HDD...Expect the game is so buggy that loading the game from the HDD makes it freeze all over the places and corrupted my save file after one level because it froze during an autosave.
I loved the evil dragon concept it sounded way better heck I would've been fine with gnasty gnorc revenge arc as well there was so much meddling from the higher ups and other publishers it was a big mess just as bad as WOC. The fact you can complete this in one glitch is damn ridiculous. I'm all for a major ground up remake but alas I hope spyros new game whatever that may be doesn't suffer the same fate as this one. There are some cool things in this game but all the negative muddles it so badly its quite sad
I remember the game because of my dentist had a little game system for the kids along side BFBB and sonic heros right next this game
This was the first Spyro game I remember playing, and I remember it being one of my least played GameCube games. Easy to see why in retrospect. Even as someone who isn't a lover of the PS1 games besides Year of the Dragon, this is such a disastrous and corporate excuse for a next-gen sequel.
This game Killed Spyro but thankfully Spyro returned in 2018 with the Reiginited Trilogy now we only need Spyro 4
If only this game was given more time.
*Wow! Thanks for the new video on the the history of the mixed /panned reviewed 2002 Spyro:Enter the Dragonfly video game, **#MiharuTheFox**!* ;D Despite its rough edges and moderate amount of positive attritbutes, hopefully this will be a lesson learned from ancient history to positively improve and evolve the Spyro the Dragon video game franchise in the future! If Crash Bandicoot abd Sonic the Hedgehog for examples can evolve and make a comeback (i.e 2020 Crash Bandicoot 4:It's About Time and 2022 Sonic:Frontiers video games respectively), then so can Spyro the Dragon!* ;D *Here's hoping and praying, guys and gals!*
My introduction to Spyro was the legend of Spyro series. Loved it so I decided to get them all. I had a love/hate relationship with etd.
Great video! Would love to see more videos of this format for every Spyro title, especially the “Jak & Daxter clone” lol
We'll see what happens in 2 years!
Miharu:ps2 will be a step in the right direction right right
Universal:you sure about that
OMG I FIRST HEARD OF SPYRO FROM ENTER THE DRAGONFLY, I reference it when catching up with my favorite cousins and even got it again for the ps2. I love this game even with the glitches and really wish it had a remake cause I loved it. Dragonfly was my baby and even after 20 years I still love it
I grew up with this and it's not as bad as people say it is. The main problem is how short the game is. The other issues aren't a big problem.
This was the only video game that ever gave me nausea as is described in the warning in the instruction booklet. My foster parent forbid me from playing video games for more than an hour because of this.
I really enjoyed the video very good!
God!! 20 years later and this game is still a disaster to play. #NotCool!!! 😭😭😭😭
Mr. FO1 does good with coverage with the game, cut content, oddities and has some long videos over the development related stuff.
I would recommend it if people are interested to see more of the things in the game in particular.
Yes, he helped me write this video. I have provided a link to his documentary in the description.
Funny enough the spyro games I enjoyed the most was the legend of spyro games. My brother and I grew up on spyro but two different spyro's. He's a little let down I still never beaten the og games but I did have fun telling him as well as my friends who never played the legend of spyro games that sparks was a key important character who talks a lot for one and spyro using different elements. I do wanna try the other spyro games sometime or perhaps one day this game could actually get a remake to fix the flaws the game had.
I remember getting the game for my birthday on the GameCube and being a little put off by it as well. I was 10 so of course I couldn't put my finger on why it felt so off. Years later when I was a teenager, I got the PS2 copy from a friend and went back through it and knew why. I know the game is bad and glitchy at best, but it was entertaining at the very least. I will replay it every now and then but I expect it to be a laughable experience. It at least inspired some good memories with friends and unique glitch experiences. I guess it's kind of like pizza - even sucky pizza can be edible. Even sucky games can be playable.
I really do hope the folks behind Reignited series come back to fix or redo Spyro 4 with its original ideas, better looks, music stays the same (or remix it like they did), and possibly throw in planned glitches and being like "jk lol! Gotcha" as a call back to they heard people's fears for the game.
The character models do look like the PS1 models, however, they look like the PS1 models but with more polygons. By that I mean, they look like as if G Six took the PS1 models and added extra polygons rather then recreating the models from the scratch based on Charles Zembillas' art direction. Kind of like the recent GTA Definitive Edition.
Is there a link to that design document? Or were those four pages all it had?
Those were the only pages
It was a good video, but the problem is that the title is wrong. Because if this game does killed Spyro, then the Hero's Tail, the Legend series, and probably Spyro in Skylanders wouldn't exist. And Hero's Tail came out 2 years after Enter the Dragonfly.
Honestly, the title should've called "The Game That (Almost) Killed Spyro".
Technically it's not wrong. In the documentary, ETD is described as "the game that obliterated a legend". It didn't kill the series entirely, but it did kill the Spyro we knew and loved.
@@MiharuTheFox Okay, now I can understand that.
Also, I subscribe to you.
Thank you and welcome!
I grew up playing this, one of my favorite game cube games.
Great video Miharu!! I got this game Christmas 2004 .... but was disappointed that it didn't have that same vibe or feeling i got when i played the original trilogy. Least to say buggy, glitchy & painfully slow. I last played this game November 2018 (in the lead up to Reignited Trilogy) but wow it was exactly how i remembered so i had to use the "swim in the air" glitch to get around. But wherever there are negative's are usually some positives.
I remember this game, I really wanted to like it, to me the main thing was that the character models looked ugly & the acting was terrible, the bugs didn't bother me too much but are much more noticable as an adult.
This is one game that truly deserves the Reignited treatment, to get it right the second time
Bought and still own this game back when it first came out and yikes. The main thing I remember is knowing from the first intro cut scene that something was very off. I felt like I was playing a preschoolers game. The game was very baseline easy and the creepy characters models looking like some preschooler's morning cartoon. I know I fully finished the game, and have never replayed it since. I simply have a bad recollection of the game and simply just didn't like it. Which was sad because I LOVED the trilogy that came before. Back then, I knew why it wasn't the same. Because it wasn't made by Insomniac (I knew they left, the end of spyro 3 they left a message that this was the last from that development company) I saw "Universal" was in charge and even back then I knew that was the reason the game was bad.