I'm so confused, why is everyone upset? Bc Cody didn't win? Lmao bro get the fck over it. I'm sure there is a bigger story in place, be patient. Y'all wrestling fans suck today I miss the attitude era fans so much
I wasn't mad Roman won. Shocked yes, but not mad. What I mostly had a problem with was that Roman won the same way and it's getting stale. At this point you can predict the finish of a Roman match.
I'm starting to get late wcw vibes from it now. Always Interference finishes and overbooked messes to keep milking something until there's no milk left.
@@chrisradzion2148 part of me thinks that's the point. When he was first champ he was winning dominant. But it his heel tactics aren't as effective. At some point he'll have to face someone legit one on one and lose. Or get schemes out of the title himself.
I could see why on a personal level, HHH and/or VKM wouldn't want to put the belt on Cody at WM, but I'm having a damned hard time seeing how not capitalizing on that momentum was good for business. I will continue to ingest my wrestling through clips, wrestling news, and this podcast only. WWE may be getting some of my attention, but they ain't getting my money.
I absolutely feel the same after watching the Raw after Mania! I'm in the minority that wanted Roman to win but by god Cody put up a helluva fight very impressive. But once again Vince in charge they destroyed Cody on Mon Raw! WTF?
Believe Jim was thinking of Carrie Underwood. And yeah, RIP Cody. I think we were all a bit naive to think Cody would win knowing Dusty and Vince's history alongside Hunter and Cody's history.
I didn't mind Roman winning. I think Cody should've won but Reigns retaining wasn't a problem. the way they had him retain was. get creative, it's the main event of Mania. maybe a title shot (literal) or any other dirty way. maybe with some object Cody carried. something different.
The problem might not be that Cody needs the belt so much as Roman absolutely does. Roman has a Goldberg problem. If he loses the belt, his Tribal Chief gimmick means nothing. As strong as his character work is, it hinges critically on him having the belt. I don't know how he survives losing it without going away and coming back a babyface.
Creatively...it felt like what was the point of all the doubts about the Bloodline and Jey's loyalty and why he was talking to Solo alone or talking to Jey alone or him being worried about "what Cody represents" only to have everyone do the exact same thing they always do...help Roman retain? What was the point of all of those stories up to that point?
The experiment has been going on too long to back out, he works as a heel but needs the stakes of a belt you’re right. It took a serious medical problem for people to start to like him when he should’ve been heel from the get go, he doesn’t have the technical skill or charisma of Seth who can manage both. Without his boasting “the best” thing and relishing being out first by the company he just can’t hang.
It was a cool night, at Sofi stadium. The script was written. The finale was to be, Cody defeats Roman Reigns with three cross roads. The count of 3. The celebration of a life time. The story arch of an generational talent finally coming to fruition. Brandi and the Rhodes family come to the ring to celebrate the momentous win. The story, now finished. The end of a Roman Empire. The death of the Bloodline championship reign. However, hours prior to this ending, Triple H at gorilla going over the script one last time and thinks to himself “Man, that’s good shit” as he turns the final page and waits for the WWE universe reaction of this brilliant story telling, of “finishing the story” Out of nowhere, the water next to Triple H, starts to pulsate feeling as if a T-Rex was approaching as foot steps are heard from a distance. Triple H gets a knot in his throat as he sees what’s coming straight at him. There stands Gomez Adams… err sorry. Vince McMahon. Vince comes walking towards Triple H and reaches out his hand and let’s a gravel “How ya doin pal?” Triple H grins ear to ear and responds with “Hi dad” Vince looks at the table and see’s the WrestleMania script. He picks it up and turns to the page called “Finishing the story” and reads the end. Vince’s expression changes instantly and looks at Paul and goes “Really, Paul? As long as I’m in charge pal, a RHODES will never be the FACE of WWE” Vince pulls out a black and yellow ball point pen out his coat jacket and draws a line out of the finish to the main event and writes “Cross Rhodes 2x, interference with Sikoa spike, Roman Spear, 3 count” Vince slams the script on the table, fixes his tie, looks at Paul and clears his throat and belts out “NOW THATS SOME GOOD SHIT” Vince starts to walk away and stops mid step, turns and looks at Triple H who is beyond distraught with this new ending. Vince says “Now, make them happy” as he flamboyantly struts away as the original ending to a brilliant story was just changed at the last minute to piss off an entire stadium and most of the world. Ladies and Gentlemen, Vince is back.
They fucked up, Cody winning the belt a year later or at any other event will not mean as much. Could have done a whole Roman/bloodline infighting story without the belts
@@m1r__ the fiend initial run was awesome and could've been great if booked properly instead they made him go for the title and it was downhill from there.
The thing that got me was there was a platform for the demon to jump off. There's never been a platform in a hell in a cell & they never showed it until finn got on top of it.
I honestly don't know what the hell they are thinking. Cody should have gone over. If this thing ends with Theory beating Reigns I will gouge my eyes out. We all know Vince loves Theory and Vince loves to pound people down our throats until we like them.
Jim has seen too many big men in his lifetime & forgets how amazing it is to see one of those monsters in real life. Omos doesn't need to have a 5 star match to be impressive. I remember being wholly impressed as a kid seeing El Gigante, just seeing a human that large in action is a show!
There is only so many times WWE can have Roman defend the titles due to his cousins interfering before it gets stale and people start to lose interest.
I’d almost prefer for the entire bloodline to break apart and have Roman carry the titles the final few months entirely alone. No shady finishes, clean victories only after long wars. Wouldn’t be surprised if that organically turns him face. The story could turn into Roman being the last one of the bloodline standing who refuses to lose. It’s insane what a string of clean victories could do for him.
I got Peacock mainly to watch the archives of WCW, WWF, and WCW whenever I feel like it. I barely watch the newer WWE stuff comes with it. That being said, Cody vs Roman had me drawn in like a Rock vs Triple H rivalry. I was pissed at the ending to the point that I just cut the sh!t off and went to sleep. Monday Night Raw didn't make it any better. Brock fvckin Lesnar? I know The Story of Cody Rhodes is still being written but Godd@mn!!!!! Just went from what now to why?
Being written, rewritten and flushed down a sink it seems. If Cody won't beat Lesnar on next PPV he should just leave WWE and come back after Vince will be gone for good.
I smell cap. Bro know he regularly watching today's product nigga aint nobody watching old shows and randomly wake up and say "i wonder what their doing in 2023" bro u cappin, u regularly watch it currently just like everybody else
Every single defense of Cody losing that I have read for the last few days has been steeped in the same WWE way of doing things that that has created a lost decade for creating big star talent. Reigns was the Wrestlemania main event 7 times 30-39 decade, is the only wrestler to bring and retain the top championship 3 years in a row, has gone over on everyone, is solidified as the top of the top company and not a single person on the street has any idea who he is.
inaccurate on some of your points. People know who roman is. Cody was stale the last 3 appearances in his promos so i can see why the booking would be to swerve the way they did. you are accurate in that WWE have no one to beat roman bc they didn't foster anyone over the last few years like they did with in the 90s with Shawn over Bret and Warrior over Hogan. Brock v Roman 29628746 tho is just lazy if that's the route they eventually go and it'll be disappointing but Cody wasn't the answer.
So y'all didn't support Jinder Mahal Kofi Kingston Big E Seth Rollins Otis had the briefcase The Miz Bobby Lashley Austin Theory had the briefcase Drew McKyntire Everyone y'all shat on who was the champ or was about to become champ. It's becoming tiresome to hear and watch y'all complain like y'all didn't hault people's pushes when WWE attempted,but like Vince said you fools have short term memory.
@@michaelvincent7115 and to reiterate again, this is a guy who has been on the top of the company like stars who people did know. Been MORE on the top than those stars. He should be a household name.
Night 2 was cursed: Ronda was injured going into the women's tag match and Shayna got injured on a dive to the outside, so the match had to be carried by Sonya and Chelsea. Bianca was having wardrobe issues throughout her match with Asuka, which brought down the quality of the match. Finn and Edge had to be halted for five minutes because Finn lead with his head on a ladder spot. And then there was the disastrous booking of the main event.
i understand why finn needed medical attention, but having all those doctors there buried his demon gimmick. finn kind of saved it by immediately no selling after though
@@OrthoReadings That was the highlight of the night! Whatever they had planned would have sucked. What actually happened was a true Wrestlemania moment we will never forget.
The whole reason people were able to tolerate Drew losing in the UK and Sami losing at Elimination Chamber was because they assumed that moment was being saved for Cody at the grandest stage of them all, they killed three potential greatest moments in WWE all in under 6 months
@@afdcg u could say the same thing about cm punk back in 2011 when he beat cena for the belt at MITB. he wasn’t necessarily the biggest draw at the time but he was right to go over cause it blossomed into something great and now he’ll go down in history as one of the top draws in wrestling history. you’ll never know the pay off of something if it’s never done.
Idk I don’t think Miz handled it all that bad. Once he realIzed, he tried to just buy time probably thinking they’d send someone out. Shane was down for real so he tried to play it off like he was the victor
It felt like the right time to bring down the Bloodline completely. I honestly can't be arsed with another whole year of Roman wins via Bloodline interference rinse and repeat. I feel like we're entertaining nWo Wolfpac/Hollywood stages of this Bloodline story - basically running longer than necessary.
There’s only so long a story can run before people lose interest. If it drags on even longer than it should have that’s when people demand for the story to end. Don’t be surprised if things drag out even longer. Roman’s been champion for about what 950 days? No doubt Vince and Triple H will want Roman to reach 1000 days. What if they want him to remain champion long enough until he breaks Bruno Sammartino’s record as champion? That would mean putting up with Roman for a good 5 years. And people (most of them) are already tired of Roman. Whilst Roman losing the belts at SummerSlam or whatever event moving forward won’t have the same impact as at Wrestlemania, people will still wish for the end regardless. I guess we’ll just have to see what happens moving forward.
honestly this. if they had fresh finishes every match for him I wouldn't mind him holding those titles for another year. but that's not the case at all
Y'all better start listening to JD from NY. He was the first to say that it was never the sale of the company. He sold the company to ensure he can get back in creative.
Reminder that it was over a decade ago that CM Punk warned us all about just how bad the WWE would be and he did it with 1 single sentence. Gotta make Roman look strong.
Cody got Lex Lugered. Don't care if they give him the belt(s) later on, WWE not only ruined Cody they BURIED HIM. They have a history of punishing and humiliating those who come from rival promotions and Cody is being punished for leaving, help start AEW, and then coming back.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. If they were punishing him they wouldn't of gave him the main event. Sometimes people get it wrong, and it's not because of malious
@@nicolaeentertainment8280 Hasn't Cody stated his favorite movie is Rocky because the protagonist loses or some shit? People aren't factoring in that for all we know he was 100% down with losing.
It’s easy enough to book, say Cody gets DQd in PR for a receipt chair beating in May, pins Brock in June, he can only get a title shot if he beats Sikoa in his specialty match in July, rematch with Roman at SummerSlam, or at MSG which would actually fit the original story better
I was there for Night 2, and I was surprised to see Roman go over. For the Shane incident, I was still clueless to what happened, and was thinking Miz was setting up his Skull Crushing Finale. The multi-tag for the Woman’s match was boring that a bunch of people from my section left to take a piss and buy more beer. Overall, Night 2 wasn’t as bad as people say it was.
Heres the problem with Jim and its his only problem , he loves cody so much cause of his relationship with Dusty, that as long as Cody does a bunch of false finishes its ok . Usually Jim bitches up a storm about false finishes . So what gives
I’m having a huge problem with Reigns being mentioned in the same breath as Pedro Morales, Hogan, Bob Backlund and especially Bruno Sammartino! These legends, albeit a different era, ALL (except maybe Hogan) defended their titles EVERY WEEK & nearly all those matches were “broadway” matches…EVERY WEEK! Even Hogan did 200 days a year in his reign. Roman defends his belt like 7 times a year. MAYBE!..and rarely wins clean. They are not the same! “THEN…NOW…FOREVER”?? I was there “then” & “now”. “Then” was better. The matches were better, feuds were better, builds were better. Nowadays, matches are merely a series of “spots”. Not the same. If Roman surpasses Pedro and beyond, I would equate that with Bonds breaking Ruth and Aaron’s records. Cheap and abhorrently disrespectful.
Duh he's a damn heel why should he win clean? You people's always writing asinine comments like Edge said when he formed The Judgment Day y'all all run here and type these asinine comments. And we are far removed from those old ass days you mention,it's a new time and a new day. How do you be a hypocrite to others before Reigns that did it but then dump on Reigns for doing it? Hypocrite much?
@guyincognito6582 that vid of Jim and Brian laughing at the many things hogan has said over the years. Forever a classic. Just like Nikki Bella…. Sorry! Garcia not knowing Vader was dead.
@@jabrockobiden9434 and none of them skated by with only a handful of title defenses a year. Reigns couldn’t hold Backlund’s, Pedro’s or Bruno’s jockstraps. Different eras…should NOT be on the same list but WWE puts them on the same list.
The crowd for the three way was great. Being there live it was kind of a pro shaemus I was the only Gunther guy in my section some kid tossed soda on my ic belt it was awesome lol
The first mistake in this story was they told people that Cody was going to be in the rumble, the storyline to Wrestlemania was just way too predictable
You’d think after nearly 1000 days as champion and winning most, if not all his matches with his cousins help that someone would’ve learnt “maybe i should cripple them first?”. They’ve booked every single opponent for Roman like an idiot and with few exceptions looking worse off. For anyone defending his victory, remember the night Brock threw the universal belt at the old man in Gorilla just so they could milk it till Summerslam. Great pop!.
At this point, I'm guessing Bron Breaker ends the bloodline. I mean, who else is left? I don't see Rollins doing it. That would be anti climatic. I'd LOVE to see Gunther do it, but that's highly unlikely. The rock makes sense, but he doesn't need the win. I'd have Roman go over the rock to truly become the head of the table and then Roman says Noone is left and boom the siren fills the arena and Bron breakker makes his debut gets in the face of Reigns. They can focus on the whole spear vs. spear thing again and have him go over Roman, and there you go. You got a NEW star who is young and marketable and who the Machine can get behind
Okay. So Vince doesn’t know who Joe Walsh is? Apparently Vince was not at smackdown on Friday because he attended an Eagles concert in New Jersey or somewhere around there. I’d be willing to bet that Joe Walsh was indeed performing at that very show. I’m glad Jim made mention of that here because I find that piece of info to be noteworthy.
How old was Vince when he blew out his quads? That was around wrestleMania 21 right, the rumble before that mania. I think 60. And then next year at Mania 22 he had that crazy match with Shawn. So there’s hope for Shane…lol.
The worst thing about main event is that's two in a row where fans went silent when match was over. They were really cheering for Sammy Zayn, I get it he didn't look like the most convincing guy to beat him. But now we talking about Wrestlemania, they booked the story well in a limited time. Do they think Jey Uso beating Roman will have the fans reaction bigger than Zayn/Cody? If those two don't deserve the titles, then neither does Jey look like he'd deserve. Maybe if this was right after Royal Rumble again where fans were excited about what would Jey do next.
I really enjoyed night 2 of mania to be honest. Despite the result of Roman vs Cody, this match had me going through anxiety. IC title and Brock vs Omos was also good.
@@pleaseshutup7053I like Miz, it was fine for him to be on night one to cool down the crowd a bit, but the night 2 segment wasn’t necessary. Could’ve had Lashley or LA Knight do something instead.
@@SP2Crazy they could have had Miz win night 1 then brag and lead to the return of a legend or La knight beats the Miz night 2 what wwe did was horrible
Honestly bummed they scrapped LA Knight vs Bobby Lashley at WrestleMania. But hey, lets have Shane come on out and let his hubris embarrass everyone else.
@@hey01e5 or not do any of that stupid shit with Miz but down on all the commericals n shit and do Lashley vs Knight in a really good match which they are capable
Karl Anderson does an amazing impression of the Honky Tonk Man. If that is how you spell it! LOL I think it was actually from a Talk N' Shop they did with Jericho. I used to like Jericho. That feels like a life time ago now. I felt bad for Shane. I was like, "OMG he's so his father's son." That could be the last time we ever see Shane and that's the memory we'll have. Where does Cody go from here? Brock... And lots of pain.
First and foremost I DESPISE Vince McMahon not for his creative but because of the shady crap he’s pulled for decades. That being said I’ve never seen where Cody is all that great. There’s no really great way to get to it, but Gunther should be the one to beat Roman. He’s ready and that rumble performance was actually kinda heroic, even if he is supposed to be a dominant heel.
I paid for the network to see this main event. And now I have seen it I will be cancelling. The last WM I paid for was 22. That's how little interest I have had in WWE but this story actually brought me back in. I'm the lapsed wrestling fan that all these companies are trying to get back . And I enjoyed a lot of WM. I even thought I might actually keep the network. Then I saw this. Fuck it. Up till now they told a really good story which had me interested. And now they've fucked up the story and I'm not interested anymore. They Lugered him.
The idea was probably to have Roman as a champion for 1000 days. Wish they would’ve found the idea to split the belts, because having a modern day champ for 1000 days is truly remarcable, but in reality, it’s imposslible without having a weird and flat finish. You could maybe do 2 seperate matches, but that would telegraph the splitting of belts.
at RR, traditionally you would only challenge for one world title if you won. maybe they could have done something where cody is only allowed to go for the WWE championship
Cornette has such a blind spot on Bianca. Bianca is every bit as over with the general audience as Rhea. Also, Charlotte and Rhea was fantastic… greatest women’s match of all time? Really? Lol
They had Ronda and Shayna win, although both are now injured. That's why they had Liv and Raquel face Damage Control on Raw for the women's tag #1 contender.
Only person left right now that would make any logical sense with the story would be Solo to win. All the talk of "are you ready, you're not ready" and that he has basically won all of Roman's matches for him for the last 6 months, the man sent by the elders and now the elders have determined Roman is not worthy. Actual story is Roman holds it for another year and Rock beats him at WM 40 and both leave shortly after with belts being forfeited and combined back into single title with random title match and somehow Connor McGregor becomes WWE champion.
Dominik Mysterio claims to listen to country, which led to Konnan responding with a story about Scott Hall trying put Konnan onto Waylon Jennings, which ended with Konnan throwing a Waylon Jennings CD out the car window like a frisbee
The LA Knight idea would've been better than subjecting Shane to blowing out his quad 😂
Oh so his advocating for young talent too ? Just like the neckbeard code demands !? His definitely a aew fanboy, he needs to stop lying 😅
Yeah Sofi was craving to see him
@@jleffel6969 Will the McMahons overtake Nash in the blowing out the quad jokes? 🤔
@@jleffel6969 😂
Everyone forgets Triple H also blew out his quad on Raw in 2001. It's a McMahon/Helmsley tradition! 🤣
@@gtt8428 what in the world
This all aged well. The “Story” is even better than last year
I don’t think a wrestling company has ever gone from such a high to such a low in 48 hours. This is WCW levels of impressive.
Until Vince is truly gone out of the WWE system the problem will never be cured
Try thinking for yourself for once instead of just agreeing with robots.
WCW never had a high, unless you consider the last 5 seconds of Nitro every week a high.
End of WM17 and the following RAW was a 48 hour downward cliff slope the likes that hasn’t been seen since
I'm so confused, why is everyone upset? Bc Cody didn't win? Lmao bro get the fck over it. I'm sure there is a bigger story in place, be patient. Y'all wrestling fans suck today I miss the attitude era fans so much
Im still kinda numb in shock at how Reigns retained at Mania. Can't remember the last time I felt like this in wrestling
I can for me....Montreal Screw Job
That's what wrestling is all about
@@chuckles9767 I'm not so sure about that Chuckk
@@chuckles9767 Chuckk baby, let's calm down here, let's not go crazyy
@@chuckles9767 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
After day 2 ended, the adrenaline truly left my soul. RIP Cody. In another couple of weeks we'll be welcoming back Stardust.
Right now he is just Gay John Cena. Atleast Stardust was a unique character
Maybe he will give him the yellow polka dot gimmick
It's in his contract to not change gimmicks.
Why are you guys being so hyperbolic? Everyone who loses to Roman reigns automatically turns into Kofimania? Y'all gotta chill lol
@@StoneColdJohnnySins1 gay John Cena lol
My favourite part is Corny doing the Vince McMahon impression and calling Shane O'Mac "pal" 😂😂
So... the "Road to Wrestlemania" is just a round-a-bout?
More like a dead end 💀
The most memorable part of night 2 was the random Padres and Dodger fans getting into a fist fight in the Mexican food concession stand. Lmao
Yo, that was a wrestlemania moment. 👌
@@maddeninghustle6919 A special moment right into Inglewood county jail
Lmfao
Jajajaja
@@Fernando_Tatis_Jr_propaganda ME alone was better than any crap All Embarrassing Wrestling has produced.
I wasn't mad Roman won. Shocked yes, but not mad. What I mostly had a problem with was that Roman won the same way and it's getting stale. At this point you can predict the finish of a Roman match.
Bingo. I was mad about him winning, but more mad about HOW he won. Same thing we’ve gotten for 3 years. Laaaazy booking.
I'm starting to get late wcw vibes from it now. Always Interference finishes and overbooked messes to keep milking something until there's no milk left.
@@chrisradzion2148 part of me thinks that's the point. When he was first champ he was winning dominant. But it his heel tactics aren't as effective. At some point he'll have to face someone legit one on one and lose. Or get schemes out of the title himself.
I could see why on a personal level, HHH and/or VKM wouldn't want to put the belt on Cody at WM, but I'm having a damned hard time seeing how not capitalizing on that momentum was good for business.
I will continue to ingest my wrestling through clips, wrestling news, and this podcast only. WWE may be getting some of my attention, but they ain't getting my money.
this 100% totally agree with ya
#cancelthecock
THERE WAS NO MOMENTUM!
Dude a buddy of mine and me said something of the same earlier at work this morning
I absolutely feel the same after watching the Raw after Mania! I'm in the minority that wanted Roman to win but by god Cody put up a helluva fight very impressive. But once again Vince in charge they destroyed Cody on Mon Raw! WTF?
Believe Jim was thinking of Carrie Underwood. And yeah, RIP Cody. I think we were all a bit naive to think Cody would win knowing Dusty and Vince's history alongside Hunter and Cody's history.
I didn't mind Roman winning. I think Cody should've won but Reigns retaining wasn't a problem. the way they had him retain was. get creative, it's the main event of Mania. maybe a title shot (literal) or any other dirty way. maybe with some object Cody carried. something different.
The problem might not be that Cody needs the belt so much as Roman absolutely does. Roman has a Goldberg problem. If he loses the belt, his Tribal Chief gimmick means nothing. As strong as his character work is, it hinges critically on him having the belt. I don't know how he survives losing it without going away and coming back a babyface.
Creatively...it felt like what was the point of all the doubts about the Bloodline and Jey's loyalty and why he was talking to Solo alone or talking to Jey alone or him being worried about "what Cody represents" only to have everyone do the exact same thing they always do...help Roman retain? What was the point of all of those stories up to that point?
The experiment has been going on too long to back out, he works as a heel but needs the stakes of a belt you’re right. It took a serious medical problem for people to start to like him when he should’ve been heel from the get go, he doesn’t have the technical skill or charisma of Seth who can manage both. Without his boasting “the best” thing and relishing being out first by the company he just can’t hang.
He’s done anyway full time. Once he loses the belt he feuds with Jey puts him over then leaves for Hollywood.
It's been like 3 years, gimmicks don't need to last forever.
Lesner v. Lashley 2 in a Fight Pit Match would have been gold.
YES!
@@bm563 but they yet to have a truly decent match
It was a cool night, at Sofi stadium. The script was written. The finale was to be, Cody defeats Roman Reigns with three cross roads. The count of 3. The celebration of a life time. The story arch of an generational talent finally coming to fruition. Brandi and the Rhodes family come to the ring to celebrate the momentous win. The story, now finished. The end of a Roman Empire. The death of the Bloodline championship reign. However, hours prior to this ending, Triple H at gorilla going over the script one last time and thinks to himself “Man, that’s good shit” as he turns the final page and waits for the WWE universe reaction of this brilliant story telling, of “finishing the story”
Out of nowhere, the water next to Triple H, starts to pulsate feeling as if a T-Rex was approaching as foot steps are heard from a distance. Triple H gets a knot in his throat as he sees what’s coming straight at him. There stands Gomez Adams… err sorry. Vince McMahon. Vince comes walking towards Triple H and reaches out his hand and let’s a gravel “How ya doin pal?” Triple H grins ear to ear and responds with “Hi dad” Vince looks at the table and see’s the WrestleMania script. He picks it up and turns to the page called “Finishing the story” and reads the end. Vince’s expression changes instantly and looks at Paul and goes “Really, Paul? As long as I’m in charge pal, a RHODES will never be the FACE of WWE” Vince pulls out a black and yellow ball point pen out his coat jacket and draws a line out of the finish to the main event and writes “Cross Rhodes 2x, interference with Sikoa spike, Roman Spear, 3 count” Vince slams the script on the table, fixes his tie, looks at Paul and clears his throat and belts out “NOW THATS SOME GOOD SHIT” Vince starts to walk away and stops mid step, turns and looks at Triple H who is beyond distraught with this new ending. Vince says “Now, make them happy” as he flamboyantly struts away as the original ending to a brilliant story was just changed at the last minute to piss off an entire stadium and most of the world.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Vince is back.
Lmao criminally underated comment man!! So well written and had me lmao 😂
Such good shit!!!!
I visualized vince dastardly strutting off like back in the attitude era lol
@@jharvey433 same here 😂
Upvoted.
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Night 1 was just them buttering us up
Then the sale happened and night 2 happened. They love to get ur hopes up
Night 1 was the lube
Made Sami and Kevin's win pointless
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz Night 1 was the lube. Night 2 was the Erectile Dysfunction.
They fucked up, Cody winning the belt a year later or at any other event will not mean as much. Could have done a whole Roman/bloodline infighting story without the belts
WWE is entertainment that makes you feel like a sucker for watching.
That good shit fuck you kind of entertainment
We're in that "last two seasons of Lost" era of WWE.
I bet you like All Embarrassing Wrestling.
LOL!
It's EXACTLY how Disney makes you feel like a sucker nowadays for watching their content full of wokeness.
@@sjdrifter72 Nah, Disney lets the good guys win often enough.
I don't blame Travis one bit for not taking the hours to include Roman's tattoos.
If they could of had Dave Meltzer show up after the Night 2 main event only to take a Stone Cold Stunner, the crowd would have went home happy.
Shane McMahon should have main evented WrestleMania night 2
That young upstart, Shane McMahon
He did, in his own way.
I keep saying this but Shane should have bought a jacket and thrown it down in anger before blowing both off his quads.
He will main event WrestleMania 40 and beat Roman for the titles.Then he'll tear both his quads celebrating.😆😂🤣
@@TheTopTurnchuckle That young lion hopefully he's ok tho
Now that we know Vince is back, we know exactly what Bray Wyatt's "issue" is.
Bray wyatt is bad to be fair tho
@@michaelvincent7115 he tries too hard sometimes. i loved the fiend
hhh wasn't booking any better
Fat, overweight, diabetes, heart disease, no talent, poor excuse for a wrestler…..
Facts over feelings!
@@m1r__ the fiend initial run was awesome and could've been great if booked properly instead they made him go for the title and it was downhill from there.
I remember when Boyz II Men did the opening anthem for one of the Wrestlemania!!!! Damn right baby!
It only took 1 day to kill all the enthusiasm everyone had for WWE.
I'm astounded.
Speak for yourself, mark.
Your tears are delicious.
@@rodycaz8984 🤣🤣🤣
Yep you're right. They sell out almost every show now and are more profitable than ever. I wish they would listen to marks like you!
@@EazySCT love how mark is thrown around so easily these days. Even cornette didn't like this ending. Gonna call him a mark too? Lol
The thing that got me was there was a platform for the demon to jump off. There's never been a platform in a hell in a cell & they never showed it until finn got on top of it.
Guess I'll go back to just listening to Jim's wwe reviews instead of accutualy watching the programing
Cody Rhodes got BURIED!!!
Cody truly got buried on RAW the following night
@@williammitchell4417 Buried, or brought nack to his proper level?
😂😂😂
No, that's what they want you to think, like he hit rockbottom... It ain't the case, he will win the titles by SummerSlam, from my pov.
Y’all don’t know what buried means
I honestly don't know what the hell they are thinking. Cody should have gone over. If this thing ends with Theory beating Reigns I will gouge my eyes out. We all know Vince loves Theory and Vince loves to pound people down our throats until we like them.
Pink avatar, male name, worthless opinion.
@@chuckles9767 tribal cheat 😴
South of Heaven was the highlight of night 2.
Adrenaline
In my soul
Rubber chicken
Cody Rhodes
Jim has seen too many big men in his lifetime & forgets how amazing it is to see one of those monsters in real life. Omos doesn't need to have a 5 star match to be impressive. I remember being wholly impressed as a kid seeing El Gigante, just seeing a human that large in action is a show!
There is only so many times WWE can have Roman defend the titles due to his cousins interfering before it gets stale and people start to lose interest.
I’d almost prefer for the entire bloodline to break apart and have Roman carry the titles the final few months entirely alone. No shady finishes, clean victories only after long wars. Wouldn’t be surprised if that organically turns him face. The story could turn into Roman being the last one of the bloodline standing who refuses to lose. It’s insane what a string of clean victories could do for him.
I know cornette isn't a fan of a triple threat but, hunter shawn n chris the first time and the rematch, both matches were incredible.
I got Peacock mainly to watch the archives of WCW, WWF, and WCW whenever I feel like it. I barely watch the newer WWE stuff comes with it. That being said, Cody vs Roman had me drawn in like a Rock vs Triple H rivalry. I was pissed at the ending to the point that I just cut the sh!t off and went to sleep. Monday Night Raw didn't make it any better. Brock fvckin Lesnar? I know The Story of Cody Rhodes is still being written but Godd@mn!!!!! Just went from what now to why?
I am def interested in Cody vs Brock tho
Being written, rewritten and flushed down a sink it seems. If Cody won't beat Lesnar on next PPV he should just leave WWE and come back after Vince will be gone for good.
@@blakemaxfield4267 im interested in brock slaughtering him until Christmas 😎😎😎💯
I smell cap. Bro know he regularly watching today's product nigga aint nobody watching old shows and randomly wake up and say "i wonder what their doing in 2023" bro u cappin, u regularly watch it currently just like everybody else
@@xlodvig Wait so you're saying Vince is the only person in the world that doesn't buy in to the idea that CAWdy Rhodes has to win?
Every single defense of Cody losing that I have read for the last few days has been steeped in the same WWE way of doing things that that has created a lost decade for creating big star talent. Reigns was the Wrestlemania main event 7 times 30-39 decade, is the only wrestler to bring and retain the top championship 3 years in a row, has gone over on everyone, is solidified as the top of the top company and not a single person on the street has any idea who he is.
Knockoff Aquaman
inaccurate on some of your points. People know who roman is. Cody was stale the last 3 appearances in his promos so i can see why the booking would be to swerve the way they did. you are accurate in that WWE have no one to beat roman bc they didn't foster anyone over the last few years like they did with in the 90s with Shawn over Bret and Warrior over Hogan. Brock v Roman 29628746 tho is just lazy if that's the route they eventually go and it'll be disappointing but Cody wasn't the answer.
So y'all didn't support
Jinder Mahal
Kofi Kingston
Big E
Seth Rollins
Otis had the briefcase
The Miz
Bobby Lashley
Austin Theory had the briefcase
Drew McKyntire
Everyone y'all shat on who was the champ or was about to become champ.
It's becoming tiresome to hear and watch y'all complain like y'all didn't hault people's pushes when WWE attempted,but like Vince said you fools have short term memory.
You can’t put the belt on any jobber or flavor of the month and make them a star.
@@michaelvincent7115 and to reiterate again, this is a guy who has been on the top of the company like stars who people did know. Been MORE on the top than those stars. He should be a household name.
1:11:36 - Cody wasn't in the ring by himself. There was a rubber chicken in the ring with him.
They put the title on jinder Mahal waist wtf but they don't wanna risk a run with Cody
Had to get that Indian market
@@_meangreenjersey973 they already had the indian market wich btw is huge
Yeah but the business mind is simple it sees the bad idea but if a consultant says it’ll make money that’s what’s happening
As an indian, I can attest few indians care about Jinder Mahal. Roman Reigns has more fans in india.
McMahon and that moustache will be undefeated going forward
The Genetic moustache and the Genetic Jackhammer.
He looks like a mobster
The best part of this whole show is laughing along with Brian and jimmy....Steph blows out the quad lol.
I had to buy myself an apology gift for watching Raw. 🤬
Night 2 was cursed:
Ronda was injured going into the women's tag match and Shayna got injured on a dive to the outside, so the match had to be carried by Sonya and Chelsea.
Bianca was having wardrobe issues throughout her match with Asuka, which brought down the quality of the match.
Finn and Edge had to be halted for five minutes because Finn lead with his head on a ladder spot.
And then there was the disastrous booking of the main event.
i understand why finn needed medical attention, but having all those doctors there buried his demon gimmick. finn kind of saved it by immediately no selling after though
And Shane pulling his quad
@@OrthoReadings That was the highlight of the night! Whatever they had planned would have sucked. What actually happened was a true Wrestlemania moment we will never forget.
The whole reason people were able to tolerate Drew losing in the UK and Sami losing at Elimination Chamber was because they assumed that moment was being saved for Cody at the grandest stage of them all, they killed three potential greatest moments in WWE all in under 6 months
None of them are close to Roman as a top guy. 😂😂😂😂
Yup
@@afdcg u could say the same thing about cm punk back in 2011 when he beat cena for the belt at MITB. he wasn’t necessarily the biggest draw at the time but he was right to go over cause it blossomed into something great and now he’ll go down in history as one of the top draws in wrestling history. you’ll never know the pay off of something if it’s never done.
@@prxnce286 Punk isn't even a draw today.
Idk I don’t think Miz handled it all that bad. Once he realIzed, he tried to just buy time probably thinking they’d send someone out.
Shane was down for real so he tried to play it off like he was the victor
Still baffled why people thought *_Cody_* was going to be crowned as the guy rather than fed to Roman. Bizarre.
Exactly
I've said it before and I'll say it again, poor Mike.
The referee litteraly SCREAMED "people's elbow" to Snoop, old Jim needs to wake up
It felt like the right time to bring down the Bloodline completely. I honestly can't be arsed with another whole year of Roman wins via Bloodline interference rinse and repeat. I feel like we're entertaining nWo Wolfpac/Hollywood stages of this Bloodline story - basically running longer than necessary.
My thoughts exactly
This is once in 40 years title run. This will never happen again in history
There’s only so long a story can run before people lose interest. If it drags on even longer than it should have that’s when people demand for the story to end.
Don’t be surprised if things drag out even longer. Roman’s been champion for about what 950 days? No doubt Vince and Triple H will want Roman to reach 1000 days. What if they want him to remain champion long enough until he breaks Bruno Sammartino’s record as champion? That would mean putting up with Roman for a good 5 years. And people (most of them) are already tired of Roman. Whilst Roman losing the belts at SummerSlam or whatever event moving forward won’t have the same impact as at Wrestlemania, people will still wish for the end regardless.
I guess we’ll just have to see what happens moving forward.
honestly this. if they had fresh finishes every match for him I wouldn't mind him holding those titles for another year. but that's not the case at all
@@KnucklesWTD lol it can happen whenever vince approves it
Jim is the king of wrestling commentary with his queen Brian! Lol jk all love Mr BL
Y'all better start listening to JD from NY. He was the first to say that it was never the sale of the company. He sold the company to ensure he can get back in creative.
I assume the same. Vince wanted back in.
Congrats Cody for finally finishing the story and ending one of the greatest runs of this era. Also, acknowledge the Tribal Chief. Thank you Roman!
Reminder that it was over a decade ago that CM Punk warned us all about just how bad the WWE would be and he did it with 1 single sentence. Gotta make Roman look strong.
Cody got Lex Lugered. Don't care if they give him the belt(s) later on, WWE not only ruined Cody they BURIED HIM. They have a history of punishing and humiliating those who come from rival promotions and Cody is being punished for leaving, help start AEW, and then coming back.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. If they were punishing him they wouldn't of gave him the main event. Sometimes people get it wrong, and it's not because of malious
@@nicolaeentertainment8280 Hasn't Cody stated his favorite movie is Rocky because the protagonist loses or some shit? People aren't factoring in that for all we know he was 100% down with losing.
@@sirkevstah289 I think this is less about how Cody feels and more about the audience opinion, which most people agree Cody should have won
It’s easy enough to book, say Cody gets DQd in PR for a receipt chair beating in May, pins Brock in June, he can only get a title shot if he beats Sikoa in his specialty match in July, rematch with Roman at SummerSlam, or at MSG which would actually fit the original story better
@@ebransc09 SmackDown is at MSG on July 7 post-MitB in London.
57:06 Cody vs Roman
We've gone from Austin "blowing the roof off the building" to the McMahons "blowing their quads out".
I just wanna see Roman have a clean championship defence for once tbh
I think the ending was supposed to make everyone angry, but for me at least it made me feel apathy.
Snoop should be the new GM for Raw AND Smackdown.
If taker was still wrestling would snoop do his own version of teddy long’s one on one with the undertaker?
Gotta love Snoop Dogg
@@robertnapier624 lol. Maybe 1 on 1 with Brock Lesnar. He could also bring back "A Tag Team match, playa.".
no
Riddle would definitely be all for that 100% 😂
Cody was just a bump in the road.
I was there for Night 2, and I was surprised to see Roman go over. For the Shane incident, I was still clueless to what happened, and was thinking Miz was setting up his Skull Crushing Finale. The multi-tag for the Woman’s match was boring that a bunch of people from my section left to take a piss and buy more beer. Overall, Night 2 wasn’t as bad as people say it was.
Heres the problem with Jim and its his only problem , he loves cody so much cause of his relationship with Dusty, that as long as Cody does a bunch of false finishes its ok . Usually Jim bitches up a storm about false finishes . So what gives
I’m having a huge problem with Reigns being mentioned in the same breath as Pedro Morales, Hogan, Bob Backlund and especially Bruno Sammartino!
These legends, albeit a different era, ALL (except maybe Hogan) defended their titles EVERY WEEK & nearly all those matches were “broadway” matches…EVERY WEEK!
Even Hogan did 200 days a year in his reign.
Roman defends his belt like 7 times a year. MAYBE!..and rarely wins clean.
They are not the same!
“THEN…NOW…FOREVER”??
I was there “then” & “now”.
“Then” was better.
The matches were better, feuds were better, builds were better.
Nowadays, matches are merely a series of “spots”.
Not the same.
If Roman surpasses Pedro and beyond, I would equate that with Bonds breaking Ruth and Aaron’s records.
Cheap and abhorrently disrespectful.
Duh he's a damn heel why should he win clean? You people's always writing asinine comments like Edge said when he formed The Judgment Day y'all all run here and type these asinine comments.
And we are far removed from those old ass days you mention,it's a new time and a new day.
How do you be a hypocrite to others before Reigns that did it but then dump on Reigns for doing it?
Hypocrite much?
@guyincognito6582 that vid of Jim and Brian laughing at the many things hogan has said over the years. Forever a classic. Just like Nikki Bella…. Sorry! Garcia not knowing Vader was dead.
I so agree. But "rarely wins clean?" How about "Never wins clean"
None of those guys were universal champion, Roman's only been wwe champ for around a year.
@@jabrockobiden9434 and none of them skated by with only a handful of title defenses a year.
Reigns couldn’t hold Backlund’s, Pedro’s or Bruno’s jockstraps.
Different eras…should NOT be on the same list but WWE puts them on the same list.
The crowd for the three way was great. Being there live it was kind of a pro shaemus I was the only Gunther guy in my section some kid tossed soda on my ic belt it was awesome lol
05:10 this is why we come here. Corny, time and again displays his rasslin acumen.
The man is a treasure and the 🐐
The first mistake in this story was they told people that Cody was going to be in the rumble, the storyline to Wrestlemania was just way too predictable
You’d think after nearly 1000 days as champion and winning most, if not all his matches with his cousins help that someone would’ve learnt “maybe i should cripple them first?”. They’ve booked every single opponent for Roman like an idiot and with few exceptions looking worse off. For anyone defending his victory, remember the night Brock threw the universal belt at the old man in Gorilla just so they could milk it till Summerslam. Great pop!.
At this point, I'm guessing Bron Breaker ends the bloodline. I mean, who else is left? I don't see Rollins doing it. That would be anti climatic. I'd LOVE to see Gunther do it, but that's highly unlikely. The rock makes sense, but he doesn't need the win. I'd have Roman go over the rock to truly become the head of the table and then Roman says Noone is left and boom the siren fills the arena and Bron breakker makes his debut gets in the face of Reigns. They can focus on the whole spear vs. spear thing again and have him go over Roman, and there you go. You got a NEW star who is young and marketable and who the Machine can get behind
Okay. So Vince doesn’t know who Joe Walsh is? Apparently Vince was not at smackdown on Friday because he attended an Eagles concert in New Jersey or somewhere around there. I’d be willing to bet that Joe Walsh was indeed performing at that very show. I’m glad Jim made mention of that here because I find that piece of info to be noteworthy.
Shane o mac another mania moment 😂😂
I heard Jessica Carr say "People's Elbow" 3 times when Shane went down. Did anybody else hear it or was it just me
Yep, and people acting like it was just snoop on the fly lol
i heard jonh cena call out every move also like always
Yup, heard it too. Still have to give credit to Snoop for saving that segment.
How old was Vince when he blew out his quads? That was around wrestleMania 21 right, the rumble before that mania. I think 60. And then next year at Mania 22 he had that crazy match with Shawn. So there’s hope for Shane…lol.
The worst thing about main event is that's two in a row where fans went silent when match was over. They were really cheering for Sammy Zayn, I get it he didn't look like the most convincing guy to beat him. But now we talking about Wrestlemania, they booked the story well in a limited time. Do they think Jey Uso beating Roman will have the fans reaction bigger than Zayn/Cody? If those two don't deserve the titles, then neither does Jey look like he'd deserve. Maybe if this was right after Royal Rumble again where fans were excited about what would Jey do next.
I really enjoyed night 2 of mania to be honest. Despite the result of Roman vs Cody, this match had me going through anxiety. IC title and Brock vs Omos was also good.
The Shane stuff dragged the show down a lot for me but the opener, main event and ic title match were all excellent in my opinion.
@@SP2Crazy Miz being treated like a jobber was definitely the low points of mania so annoying
@@pleaseshutup7053I like Miz, it was fine for him to be on night one to cool down the crowd a bit, but the night 2 segment wasn’t necessary. Could’ve had Lashley or LA Knight do something instead.
@@SP2Crazy they could have had Miz win night 1 then brag and lead to the return of a legend or La knight beats the Miz night 2 what wwe did was horrible
Honestly bummed they scrapped LA Knight vs Bobby Lashley at WrestleMania.
But hey, lets have Shane come on out and let his hubris embarrass everyone else.
A complete farce
Yeah, that was BS. They can't put Lashley or LA Knight on Wrestlemania, but we get Pat McAfee and Shane McMahon
they should have had LA knight beat up the miz, instead of shane
@@hey01e5 or not do any of that stupid shit with Miz but down on all the commericals n shit and do Lashley vs Knight in a really good match which they are capable
@@blakemaxfield4267 YEAH!
Poor Shane.
Here he comes... and there he goes!!
Karl Anderson does an amazing impression of the Honky Tonk Man. If that is how you spell it! LOL I think it was actually from a Talk N' Shop they did with Jericho. I used to like Jericho. That feels like a life time ago now.
I felt bad for Shane. I was like, "OMG he's so his father's son." That could be the last time we ever see Shane and that's the memory we'll have.
Where does Cody go from here? Brock... And lots of pain.
First and foremost I DESPISE Vince McMahon not for his creative but because of the shady crap he’s pulled for decades. That being said I’ve never seen where Cody is all that great. There’s no really great way to get to it, but Gunther should be the one to beat Roman. He’s ready and that rumble performance was actually kinda heroic, even if he is supposed to be a dominant heel.
Vince has done nothing wrong. It's not your business anyway.
Snoop calling the cell...
"If Finn can't contizzle, this match will be nizzle."
I paid for the network to see this main event. And now I have seen it I will be cancelling.
The last WM I paid for was 22. That's how little interest I have had in WWE but this story actually brought me back in. I'm the lapsed wrestling fan that all these companies are trying to get back . And I enjoyed a lot of WM. I even thought I might actually keep the network. Then I saw this. Fuck it.
Up till now they told a really good story which had me interested. And now they've fucked up the story and I'm not interested anymore.
They Lugered him.
The idea was probably to have Roman as a champion for 1000 days. Wish they would’ve found the idea to split the belts, because having a modern day champ for 1000 days is truly remarcable, but in reality, it’s imposslible without having a weird and flat finish. You could maybe do 2 seperate matches, but that would telegraph the splitting of belts.
at RR, traditionally you would only challenge for one world title if you won. maybe they could have done something where cody is only allowed to go for the WWE championship
@@hey01e5 And it would make sense in the story for Cody to want specifically the WWE title too.
Night 1 was Triple H booking, and Night 2 Vince took over
I know Jim and Brian don't like the way Samantha announces but I think she does a fantastic job, she certainly gets Paul Heyman's attention
Guess I'm the only one that always wants the Chief to win. I'm good on that island.
Ref:Solo Sikoa. You are banned from ring side
Solo: *attacks* *from* *ring* *corner*
It's impressive how often jim can bring up the same old stories from the territory days and go off on a 15 minute tangent about it
Honestly, they don’t have anyone to put over roman. Cody was great but it didn’t ever make sense for him to be the one.
This is the equivalent to hhh not putting over cm punk at night of champions 2011
I loved the main event. We saw the stunner, the pedigree, and the rock bottom. It had everything.
We started high and now we’re mighty mighty low :(
Maybe the idea is to smash Rex Steiner over on the main roster once he's ready to move up by being the one to dethrone Roman.
Cornette has such a blind spot on Bianca. Bianca is every bit as over with the general audience as Rhea. Also, Charlotte and Rhea was fantastic… greatest women’s match of all time? Really? Lol
First HHH, then Vince, now Shane. Quads run in the family, for real 😮😅
Now if Cody wins the title at some point it won’t mean as much…exactly, Brian. Exactly!!!
They had Ronda and Shayna win, although both are now injured. That's why they had Liv and Raquel face Damage Control on Raw for the women's tag #1 contender.
How did they get injured when they did absolutely nothing in the match lol
"Never slowed down? It never speeded up!" :)🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Missed opportunity not having Muta involved in the RAW women's championship match
Just like HHH never letting the Rock beat him square just like Austin never beat him square EVER. The Rock got him at Backlash but that was IT
Cody losing felt like watching my Eagles lose the Super Bowl
Only person left right now that would make any logical sense with the story would be Solo to win. All the talk of "are you ready, you're not ready" and that he has basically won all of Roman's matches for him for the last 6 months, the man sent by the elders and now the elders have determined Roman is not worthy. Actual story is Roman holds it for another year and Rock beats him at WM 40 and both leave shortly after with belts being forfeited and combined back into single title with random title match and somehow Connor McGregor becomes WWE champion.
Dominik Mysterio claims to listen to country, which led to Konnan responding with a story about Scott Hall trying put Konnan onto Waylon Jennings, which ended with Konnan throwing a Waylon Jennings CD out the car window like a frisbee
And next, we get Cody Rhodes getting squashed by Brock Lesnar. Welp, was fun while it lasted.