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- This is 2cm's Beam System mod for Space Engineers! An epic laser beam mod that lets your change the direction for a fancy firing effect or to make your base look awesome! I got over its costs, power usage and how to set up and use this Beam system mod.
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This next mod involves deadly lasers, and how test subjects react when locked in a room with deadly lasers.
Ah a man of culture!
Now you're thinking with portals!!!
The experiment is nearing its conclusion . . .
The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake . . .
@@astarrobotics I... AM NOT... A MORON!!!! COULD A MORON PUNC... YOU... DOWN... INTO... THIS... PIT?! HUH?! COULD A MORON DO THAT?! Uh oh...
"this sentence is false"
cap whats that blue light in the distance and why are we lagging so much
engineer laughing maniacally ontop of his 80 lasers"ALL HAIL KLANG"
I know I am quite randomly asking but do anybody know of a good site to stream newly released tv shows online?
@Caiden Kalel Flixportal xD
@Brooks Seth thanks, I signed up and it seems like a nice service =) Appreciate it!!
@Caiden Kalel no problem :D
It would be really cool if you could use it to transmit energy with the laser
eshchar meidan I first thought the mod could do that, space elevators would be more viable, but I guess I’m not disappointed
There is a mod that transmit energy now. I'm crap with scripts so I can't tell you if it's good or not.
@@tohpingtiang4878 It's some time since your comment.. But any idea what the name of that mod was? :P
@@RRKS Power Transmitters by cython
I don't go over the efficiency system or test the full damage in this video. Had to separate it due to file size & potato upload speeds :P
Star Trek Phaser system. Track enemies via turret, periodic blasts of energy.
Hi Jack! You said in some video to contact you in comments for showcase suggestions. So here is mine.
(some map gameplay)
th-cam.com/video/KgfOYwuPr98/w-d-xo.html
The mech itself
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1707190418
Fighting map(there is also 2v2 version)
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1707189060
I hope you like it :)
@@halipatsui9418 this is cool
Will you upload the separate video with the damage and efficiency?
How dare you show us how to build a death star you monster
lol the Homeworld ion beam sound... I absolutely love it.
Hah, they used the ion cannon sound from Homeworld for the small laser.
Volsungare
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Holy crap that's what I just yelled out lol. HOMEWORLD!!!
Why not...
Oh the memories.....2000, killing my Compaq Presario with no muscle to hardly run any 3d graphics. Oiy.
and for that i love it
@@buzbom1 capturing the entire sphere of ion frigates in the mission to destroy the hyperspace inhibitor and not being able to jump because the formation is piled up on the map border...
I don't get why they didn't use the Ion Cannon sound... for the Ion Beam...?
I think, now i can Build a proper Hiigaran Super Battleship.
Btw. the Range of the Beams depend on the Systems Charge. The Laser Beam have a Range of 1200m at lowest Charge, respectively 4000m at its highest Charge and the Ion Beam 4000m at lowest and 25000m at higest.
I dont think, that this Mod is OP, yes the Parts aren't too expensive but they need either stupendous amounts of Power, or the charging takes Ages.
Also building a Ship with especially an Ion Beam Cannon as main Gun, is definately on the bigger Scale and also this Mod is set up, to work with the Defense Shield Mod.
I constructed a Ship with an Ion Cannon wich needs 10 GW for the Ion Beam Generators alone and needing 27 Minutes to Charge its 6 Capacitors to 100% and the Beam burns only for a bit over 6 Seconds and the Term Canon with Thrusters fots the Ship perfectly. Ok it vaporizes everything in its Way but because the Charge takes so long, this will take only one use in an Battle and after fireing it's just a gianormous unmaneuverable chunk of Steel wich now is, at least after the first shot, a high priority Target.
What i want to say is, Ships with an Ion Cannon are like a Death Star. Good for one terrifying blow but after that its no real Thread any more but instead a huge Target.
With the Laser it's an other Story. You still have either unholy charging Times or Power consumptions but the Damage is way less than that of the Ion Cannon. If you put arround 5 to 10 GW in the Laser System, you can make a cutting Laser that burns as long the Reactors have Fuel, but this is again expensive as fuck. Wichever Way you look at it, it's either expensive or timeconsuming but foremost Big, especialy if you don't want to use pretty powerfull Mod Reactors with Outputs in the high MW or even GW Range.
P. S. You forgot one Point in your Review. For the first Time in the History of actual Beam Weapons, we are not depentent from the Color Taste of the Creator. You can change the Beam Color to every Color you want, by coloring the Blocks of the Beamsystem in the Color you want. But it only works if the Saturation is at 100 everything below colors the Beam by default. And if you want a Pink Beam but not a Pink Laser System, you simply can turn down the Value to 0 and the blocks are just Black but the Beam will still have the Color you selected.
Protip: If your struggling for power use Azimuth's power pack the 3x3x2 fusion reactor outputs 1.2 gigawatts, also if you use enough laser generators you can have a continuous laser which can cut ships in half out to 4km! I found an empty hull of the Hiigaran battlecruiser so i kitted it out with 4 laser turrets all of which can do but don't usually do continuous fire.
If you have these beams visible along the out side hull of your vessel, you could make it look like there whole ship is charging the Ion beam before discharge (ie make it visible behind glass, and keep the reflectors hiden behind armour).
THAT SOUND! AT 13min the beam sound is the same the Ion cannons used in Homeworld game. Also this is a neat concept for weaponry but.....if the capacitors were able to apply power to a grid...that'd be nice.
Now, this is awesome.
Just imagine actual Planetary Defense Ion Cannons. You would have a big Gun platform (and a lot of power of course) and a Turret, to shoot down any enemy Landing Craft or Ship, trying to invade or land on your occupied Planet. Any reasonable sized Ship would definitely be obliterated unless it's big enough to survive the Beam (a Battleship or Carrier for Example). It would punch a hole through it or maybe have it lose an Engine or Reactor, but its Size would make it still flyable (or at least landable). We can have proper Subnautica Spaceship Planetary crashes!.
It shouldn't be utterly overpowered either, because the Time and Energy consumption it would take to Charge and fire the Beam again would be enough for maybe a second Landing Ship (or the damaged Battleship) to at least break through the atmosphere and vanish below the Horizon, escaping the Ion Cannon thanks to the Planets curvature.
Considering the sheer size of the weapon, a heavy ion Canon is only practical and build able inside an asteroid or in a ground station where you build the generators underground. A ship can carry it (and I already built some prototypes), but they will need to be much more compact, and as a result, smaller.
It is also important to note that this weapon is also the single most dangerous energy weapon you can use. If the loop is broken and one of the corner blocks is taken out of action, the weapon will discharge all of its stored energy inside your own structure. If you are lucky, it discharge front and you missfire. If you are unlucky, your whole ship vaporize.
@@mobiuscoreindustries so death star
YTer Apologies did this with an entire moving parts system and base with a strike ship printer as part of the weapon defence. It's called Ion Cannon Facility and i think it's even on the workshop.
Yes! Homeworld ion cannon sound effect FTW!
Cave Johnson would be proud! I gotta mess with this mod eventually haha
Death Star components found.
Build death star.
Beat me to it
wouldnt it be better to put the 4th redirecting block on a piston so that on have to move the piston up n down instead of destroying blocks??? would make it easier to mount on a ship.
like a large ship with side hangers into a broad side lazer mon o war
This Mod is awesome and you are awesome for reviewing it. I had several hours of fun experimenting with the lasers. I ended up making a giant arc reactor looking thing to charge up the Ion laser. from my testing i found that you don't need the capacitor to fire the Ion but it does make the beam last longer when you use it. i used both pistons and rotors to make the system fire wish i had pic.
I imagine with some use of rotors and [istons you could make a revolver type weapon system to capture energy, then revolve around to another loop and, ocne you have enough stored up without losing too much power, fire them at an interval to match the loading of the energy into the next round. Basically a rapid firing beam weapon with only one emitter.
@@gaalidas4836 I like that idea I'm going to go and try to build one
When you build 5km long battleship with giant-ass laser cannon in the bow, powered by 50 ion capacitors and generators:
Queue in Space Battleship Yamato firing Wave Motion Gun
Yamato firing: th-cam.com/video/4phT2Vukvn0/w-d-xo.html
@@sebbes333 NO. The movie sucks. Please use anime next time.
@@sebbes333 th-cam.com/video/vV0x4XHdbyc/w-d-xo.html
There, much better.
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Or build Anubis' ship th-cam.com/video/COKi3e5LBKE/w-d-xo.html
It's 2km long and 1.2km wide
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You could run the whole thing from a small grid small generator...
Max power draw is 125 watt/hours on the small laser & 2.5 kWh on the big'un. 2.5 kWh is nothing in this game. An antenna transmitting @ 5km uses 10 kWh.
Most laser systems on the workshop draw & store insane amounts of energy to fire. This one just needs a metric shit-ton of space to build & can't be easily fired. (Although, to be honest, you can just design your ship out of small laser blocks & combiners with an exit at the front. 100 lasers means 12.5 kWh power consumption for a constantly firing deathray.
EDIT: True, got my units of power & energy mixed up. In any case, there's been an update to the mod. Power draw was increased about a thousand fold. So now you struggle to power even a single laser, not to mention the Ion Cannon.
- Laser power draw is now 125 MW, so you need 11 large batteries or 9 small reactors (large grid) to power 1 laser... at full power draw... it's insane. Sure, you can get away with charging it in a loop and unloading, it's actually quite viable, even with no scripts (and this is a weapon you'd use manually) but the power draw restricts it from actually being useful... Aside from the fact that it's gigantic. Also, no more deathray :(
But the Ion Cannon... jeez. With a fully charged capacitor it vaporized half an Oban Tide from 8 Km away. The ship was literally torn in two.
Agreed, and even in real life lasers don't use that much power.
On a sidenote, power draw isn't measured in watt*hours, but rather just in watts. Watt*hours is a measure of energy stored, much like mAh is milliamp*hours
*low orbit ion cannon intensifies*
@@km5405 A single Ion Generator at full draw is 1 GW... And it takes a LONG while to charge a capacitor...
On the other hand I just tested one with 2 capacitors vs one of the vanilla large pirate bases.
The only thing left was a crater the size of the base. So yeah, orbital ion cannon is doable xD
Very nice block models in this mod.
The one ship that comes to mind for a laser this big is the Zarek overseer from fractured space :D
System could do with a 'trigger' block, so it redirects it like a combiner block but when triggered will come out at 90 degrees or something so you can actually charge up and fire it out of the loop without having to delete a block or use pistons/rotors
i mean, i see your point, but i also think its good as is, because right now, its a terrifyingly powerful weapon yes, but you need some knowledge to actually get it working, plus it can be used in all sorts of fun ways
Nice video, saw this mod on the Workshop and didn't subscribe because didn't understand how it worked, more interested now that you showed it's applications...
Now that we have the custom turret control, making a small laser turret with these should be easier :)
Neat concept but it seems like a double-edged sword. After all, if a lucky hit were to destroy a redirecting block then the laser could just impale your own ship.
When you said that the beam gets redirected via the square block, I knew exactly where the idea came from. Portal 2
www.google.com/search?q=laser+puzzle+games
Sorry dude but they're WAAAAAAAAAY older than that ;)
Yeah, I thought it as well
Ye the only thing is maybe another block like a 'Gate' where the beam can come out of and it does the same job as the blocks that redirect the laser but has the option to open a gate
Just use a piston that converts one block of the loop into a gate.
Before seeing this in action, i thought that capacitor could open up on the other end and fire from itself after charging up. oh well.
Fixed ion firing platform, use a piston to push the firing redirector into position, once fired, retract and start recharging.
Yeah, but can you use it to make a really long tunnel? (either horizontal or vertical)
Yes
Yes, it will make a tunnel out to as far as the range of the beam. I would not recommend the ion beam for tunneling though. It's hard to explain but the first time you try it you'll understand why. The laser is much better for tunneling
yes, and quickly: a system of just the generators rotatiing would be able to precisely carve out voxels to a single grid unit
Thanks for asking. It’s almost the first thing I though of 🤣.
And thanks for the replies. 👍
So like a day after this mod came out I built the ION beam system....Man the amount of power this thing requires is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR to much if you are playing survival. but at the same time its insanly op with its power and range even if you can only afford to fire it for 1 second you can rek anything from a very long ways away. I just hope the author updated the ION beam gens model to be small after I told him you cant place it in survival b/c its too big without a mod helping you place it.
With enough hinges, rotors, capacitors, beam generators, and beam directors, someone could build a functioning Death Star
This is going to be one of the most vanilla mods I’ve seen.
Cool, now we can make laser beam puzzles for our scenarios!
if your having power Problems there is a mod that can fix that, The Steam workshop has something called an "Arc Reactor". pretty much solves every power problem ever
the Azimuth power pack is also really good to have with this mod. 4 of the big fusion reactors should be enough for 2 - 3 ion generators to work at full output.
So at full charge an ion beam would basically just vaporize everything it touches.
Yes, though as you can seei it is the single most complex largest and power intensive energy weapon on the workshop, one that not only need a purpose built craft, but also a great deal of care when in operation. Remember, if the loop is broken during charge, then the laser will most likely discharge inside your own vessel, and I do not fancy your chances of survival of that is the case.
@@mobiuscoreindustries yeah if that happens that ship is pretty much fubar isn't it?
@@mobiuscoreindustries you could perhaps have it very very deep in a planet underneath a base and use it as an anti large ship gun. It would be painful to build and maintain but it would be out of reach.
@@thenthson yep depends on what beaks and where. If it is the fire mechanisms then you may discharge a shot forward, if it is the generators then your shot will slowly lose power. But the worse is if the fire mechanism is broken in the loop, because this will cause the thing to fire form the breach. If it fires into a side close to the exterior then you may just take heavy damage, but if it goes INTO the ship then you look at catastrophic damage. This is why that weapon, as powerful as it is, is what I would consider a balanced energy weapon. You can't have it on at all times, only when you think you will need to fire it. It takes time to charge, and it needs engineering to make work. And finally, both for ions and lasers, they can be dangerous to use. Way different form the usual energy weapons which are very easy, low risk weapons to use. Even less risk than kinetic weapons that can damage your ship if they fire into you.
@@thenthson as for the base, this is how I would do such a thing. The power supply, generator chain and capacitors loop is just too big to armor around it. The building would be seen from high orbits and it's just impossible to protect the thing correctly without making building cost skyrocket.
Voxels have counters, lasers being one of them but they can provide decent protection, reduction in visibility, and less chances of a deadly missfire. All my planetary bases are build underground, with only the hangar sticking out the side of the cliff I built it into. It takes some time but you can easily get yourself 1 or 2 km of ground to the center of your base without having to dig that much, being both far from the ground bellow, but also not accessible that easily from targets above.
So homeworld is one of my Fav RTS games of all time, and the SOUND at 13:00 made my day and nerded SO HARD at it -downloads mod-
One year on and it's still one of my favorite mods, even though i have to build vast ships or bases to house an ion cannon.
Nah, you did NOT cover everything. How is it supposed to work in survival? Like, how do I remove the last piece of the loop safely?
I think you can use a piston that moves up and down to disconnect the loop to fire and then to reconnect and charge up. Set up some timers and have a laser gun shooting at some intervals :D
i agery yeah
bro
It doesn't matter if the laser is just hitting the edge of the block, shown in the video. So you can have the last one on a piston and just lower it to release it.
It would be safest if the piston moved in the same direction of the beam. That way the beam doesn't slide sideways and hit unintended blocks which may be housing the laser core room.
To get it to fire with pistons, you'll need 3 pistons & 4 combiner blocks! the 1st of the 4 combiner blocks is static(which is where you add the laser generators) which fires into the 2nd combiner block that is on a piston which moves only at most a quarter of a block which fires into the 3rd combiner block that moves in the same direction as the 2nd combiner block but a little more than half a block which fires into the 4th block which moves in the opposite direction of the other 2 pistons, which it fires back into the 1st combiner block! Which it should clear though a single block area but not hit anything that isn't suppose to be shot at!
I could see this like the Wave Motion Gun® in Star Blazers®, a powerful primary weapon that takes time to recharge to full potency each time it's fired.
There's a mod with the WMG already :) don't remember which, but you can see it in use in one of the last few w4stedslace uncooperative survival videos.
7:50 2.5KW, waw, that's like 2 500 watts of power, a bit more than my electric kettle
Balance? What's balance?
they fixed it. it uses 500 MW now
could use a piston system to lower and raise the "loop" and make it fire that way... as i assume this will be ONLY on a VERY large ship that you have the space to do all this:)
or have most of the loop stationary and have a piston lower one of the combiners out of the way and you can fire it that way.
well if you can maneuver with the ship easily, its not very nessecary to have a piston system, but ..yeah its cool
Does the mod work with the arc reactor mod?
Im asking since i tend to play modded SE with weapons core
Now im thinking of something like planetary bombardment since now i know how to work it....
Not gonna lie, this seriously reminds me of portal : D
Pew pew
homeworld 2 sounds ...great xD (the plasma thing firing)
Love your videos dude :)
What if someone made a ship with a heavy armour shell, then a shell completely filled with combiners pointing outwards
Death Star confirmed. I'm guessing that there is a group of modders out there trying to make it possible to blow up a planet on SE with a laser, and other scifi themes.
Only complaint about the video is that I didn't see it blow anything up. Put some ships in front next time.
a block that would really help this for charge up is a combiner that can flip between two emitters at the touch of a button. also the small laser will be a much more pratical ship to ship weapon while the ion beam would be better for anti station work (long range plus unmoving target)
i think it'd be possible to make the ion beam work for ship combat. most of the beam handling equipment would need to be deep within the ship and have the beam directed down a path to a turret that can fire it out in any diirection
@@killman369547 it's gonna be a bulky ship do to the need for the sheer size of the entire thing. As a bombardment weapon you can afford to just sit a few kilometers out as you trickle charge the capacitor.
You could make a loop with 4 diverters then have a 5th diverter on a piston that interrupts the beam circuit.
Way cooler than my laser.
I'd say this mod is missing a shunt block that can flip the laser output from one direction to another. Mucking about with rotors is too imprecise
Very interesting mod! I probably wouldn't use it myself, seems a bit complicated to fire the thing lol!
it reminds me of the early system for lasers in form the depths.
I could never seem to get the AI to work in that game.
It's a fair bit complicated innit
Is there a way to release the beam without deleting a block or putting it on a rotor? Like a switch lock? Or does turning off a combiner let the beam pass through without redirecting?
The block that is changing the direction of the lazer looks like it's from Portal 2.
I'd use it for base security, while at the same time as the ultimate anti-air ion cannon
Can you use a grinder/welder system to build a block to re-direct, the beam as a weapon once the loop is charged, and grind it down to allow charge
For the Laser IDK.
But for the Ion Bram...
Short, Nope.
And thats why:
The charged Ion Beam allways makes Damage to Blocks that aren't fully constructed Ion Beam Combiners, wich means, thanks to the explosive damage, your Array blows up in exactly that moment, the Combiner gets Grinded to its last Construction Stage or the Projection becomes to the first Stage. Luckily Rotos get much more Stable. But if you prefere a Solid State System you best use a bunch of Laser Generators and bundle them to a nice Beam. Maybe this Mod will get some kind of Shutter or Selectable Output or something in this direction. The Creator announced a beam Splitter for each System and in the newest Version, the Laser System have also Capacitors so the creator is definitely not lazy since there was 4 Updates in the last Week alone.
this is getting weird. why whenever i think of something, jack RPG either does a video on it, or someone else begins making the mod.
ULTIMATE POWER!!!!!
Really wish that you could deactivate those combiner blocks individually, so that you could amass a big charge and then activate the one that aims it.
A death star with this mod.....
So, it's like the old MA Laser Systems mod, only it requires rotors to be used effectively.
Ok so the first thing I think of is making a death start but the real question is can it cut through stone aka the planet or astroids
*Hears the sound effect*
HOLY SHIT ITS THE ION FRIGATES FROM HOMEWORLD AHHHHHH
Why do you need 8 large reactors for the iron beam if large reactors can generate 10.5 megawatt? There are 1000 kilowatts in a megawatt so one large reactor is more than enough.
Did the math, one large reactor can power 4,200 ion generators at once continuously.
Seems more like a fence than a firing solution.
Having to take a block away that this fires also seems strange,
you sure this won't work any other way?
This video is quite outdated.
There are now blocks which can be set to fire in two different directions at different increments from 0 to 100%.
This way you can make a turret work without removing blocks.
Nice
Was GLaDOs high when she made the ion beam emmiter?
Hi I need help the star Trek mods weapons is not working can jou do a video of it ?
Thats amazing im gonna have fun with that lol
I really wanted to see you shoot a ship with a laser
Time to build a glassing beam
HomeWorld iron cannon sound xD
What's the game showed at the end with the female character with what seems to be a gun?
i made a 700 m long ship that had no charge up yet still had max power about 600 of ion generators to work
9 Large reactors? "Werf it"
getting some Portal vibes
Would be cool to implement for the wandering earth build on the workshop
Is this a bug or a feature?
Yes.
it can be used as the glassing beam for the convenant super carrier
ima fire mah lazor
but how can you AIM and shot your laser from the loop? no rotor is fast enough to make proper change in angle within that time frame. I don't get it.
It really can only be built as a fixed forwards firing weapon unless you put the entire beam system on rotors.
@@JackRPG Actually I did find a way to somewhat controll it using your method with prism-on-piston along with prism-turret using 2 rotors for changing directions. It's so damn expensive to fire tho :P
I wish space engineers has something like this, instead of just slap n forget turret.
They need to add a trigger block so you don’t need to destroy the block
15:35 actually no, you can make it a super beam now, no loop needed
Now I have to make the Excalibur from Ace Combat 0.
So, what happens when you pass through the beams while it is all charging up and getting bigger?
He did show that off. if you're not in front of the final ejection of the beam, it simply occludes on your character model harmlessly. if you're in front of the final beam, however, you get hurt.
Now imagine this but it also collects components when it destroys blocks
There needs to be a better way to do that set up... Then again i am building possibly the largest ship in SE may need to make a giant murder laser mod though
IMA FIRIN MA LASER!!!
Can you have just 2 redirects facing each other (instead of 4 making a loop) ?
i did try that. when two combiners are facing eachother the good news is nothing explodes, but i have no idea whether that setup would be a valid charging loop, i'll have to test that specifically next, but the main thing is you don't have to worry about explosions if you have 2 combiners facing eachother.
Yo couldn't you have a system for the Ion that has all of the systems on the turret, and for the firing mechanism just have a piston that's normally full extended, but retracts (and takes the holding directer with it) when you wanna fire?
The trouble is that you may end up with multiple combiners ejecting their charge depending on where each charge is at the time of lowering it. If you could make the previous combiner rotate to follow the one on the piston, you could still make sure all the power is being pumped into the one combiner as it lowered and thus fire from that lowered combiner only.
@@gaalidas4836 No, I meant for the combiner on the piston to work as a latch, the actual firing combiner for the then-charged beam would be the one that was facing the one on the piston. That way, the piston doesn't interfere with the position of the laser, only with the state, charging or firing.
"combiner" Think you are missing the potential there... a combiner has 5 sides... so thats 5 sides it can accept energy from... and 1 output point.
You set up 5 lasers pointing at 1 combiner... and set the output to another combiner... at that one which has 5 over combiners aimed at it... so thats 5x5 or 25 lasers... no need for fancy bouncing and such... oh no instead you just see 5 "bright beams" hitting the center block and boom.
1mw is 1000kw so why do you need 9 reactors for 100kw draw?
JackRPG
can't do math, don't shame him
You can build the ram laser thing from the last Jedi
Could just use a piston to remove the block.
Just needs a block that will act like a discharge point without needing to remove a loop block to fire.
you don't need to actually remove a loop block though, just put one of them on a piston to lower it out of the way to fire and raise it back up to recharge.
Dose it damge voxels?
THANK you now I can build an airstrike ship
how are you doing that copy paste trick?