Breville Barista Express IMPRESS Review!
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Breville has long been the king of home espresso, and ESPECIALLY integrated grinder home espresso machines. This brand new machine is a refresh of the ever-popular barista express, which adds in helpful tamping and dosing features to ease the learning curve of making espresso at home. Is it worth checking out? In this review of the Breville Barista Express Impress espresso machine, we find out!
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Useful review, thanks! I know you said you can’t remove the portafilter during puck prep, but do you think it’s possible and practical to remove the cover between grind and tamp, in order to redistribute the coffee grounds by using a tool to reach through the space left by the vacant cover?
Thanks for covering all the topics on the Impress. I like your content because you get to the point. Thanks for mentioning the difference of the impress and barista pro.
A truly excellent review. You covered everything in concise detail and answered all the questions I had about this machine.
Your videos are always so well done. Great job and honest and good job with the review.
Really great and comprehensive review. Thanks!
Had my original express for nearly a year now and it's a trooper! This version would have saved a lot of headaches while learning, but I think I'll go for a barista pro or something like that in the future for the speed making multiple drinks. I have enjoyed tinkering a bit but that puck prep is enticing.
I've owned the BE for a little over 3 months and really enjoy it. Your conclusion on the steamer was spot on. I'm still working on getting the milk consistency perfected to allow for latte art. I've tried other tips but the pressure isn't high enough to support them. Overall I'm super satisfied with the BE Impress as a first time espresso machine purchaser. I can finally say my wife enjoys my home cappuccino over store bought drinks.
Such a high quality review, well done 👍
Excellent review. You are one of the best product reviewers I have come across. Thanks.
Thanks Shahid !
I've got the Express at work and this looks even better for the novice espressoheads there, ha. WONDERFUL video as always, I love seeing you pop up in my feed!!
Thanks for watching!
Love your review as I am researching which machine to buy for a family member, so this is helpful. My Barista Pro has suddenly started to make a horrendously loud noise lately, along with vibrating the glass along so it’s hitting the group head. Luckily only just still under warranty so hope to get something done to fix it 🤞
Would you recommend the Barista Pro instead of the older tech Express Impress ?
Good review once again, appreciate the honesty and straight forward approach
Completely agree with your conclusion, especially the slower steaming performance. A missing variable steam valve goes along with this conclusion.
Worth mentioning that the Bambino Plus also has the superior steaming capability at a lower price point.
Thanks for presenting it like there's no dog out to get you. :) Enjoyed it very much, but I still love my old Barista Express.
Thanks for the comprehensive review!
Thanks for tuning in!
Well this was a nice into the point review ! Well done mate
Fantastic video! Looks like the machine for me to get a foot in the door! Great information!
Great review! Also would have loved to see some refreshing on the steam power. You totally called it on Breville bringing those features into its line 😂👏
I already have a Bambino Plus and have been considering purchasing a separate grinder. This has got me thinking... I could use the Bambino to manage the milk frothing, but I could use the Impress for the grind and brew operation. Overkill perhaps. The Impress is on sale here in Aus. I suspect a dedicated grinder will yield better results, but the automation component makes this super appealing. Great review BTW!
I wanted to buy a Lelit Mara X with a Giota grinder after the Breville Barista express, but my girlfriend doesn't want to go through the whole procedure. She works from home a lot and it has to go a bit faster. I definitely didn't want a fully automatic machine. So today we bought the Breville Barista express impress for 622€ (it was on sale in Germany). I think it's a good compromise. The milk steam
nozzle of the express is really weak, but you can live with it. We drink maybe three cappucinos a day. Great review. Thanks
Great explanation. You nailed it from a high level user point.
Thank you Captain Americano, really great review!
Thanks for the video! Can you please review the La Pavoni pro?
Thank you for this fantastic video, simple to follow and understand. Please make a video of the different functions and how to use them. I am a beginner, love espresso but scard to buy one because of its complicataed usage.
Cheers!!!
The only real functions are grind, brew, and steam! I have some good videos on how to dial in your first espresso shot already on my channel :)
I still have the Duo-Temp PRO. I will be making the upgrade to this one as it seems the best all in one to simplify my coffee making.
Grinder was my biggest issue with barista express. After getting sette 270, my shots were consistent and I was really happy with my setup. 2500 double-shot espressos later, I decided to replace BBE with Gaggia Classic and honestly, I regret it. Bambino plus would be better choice.
I don't believe that couple extra grind settings will make a difference in this model.
I would still recommend separate grinder/ bambino for espresso hobbyist.
I just brought out my express from summer storage today, gave it a clean, and pulled my first shot of the fall. This looks like a good choice for anyone shopping new, but Breville is a victim of their own success: only when my express is well and truly dead will I replace it.
Anyone reading this on the fence as to whether to get a Breville… do it. The brand, on the whole, is a delight.
I struggle to get great shots with the BBE, likely due to the higher pressures. While the BBE does have a lot of features, the Gaggia Classic with the OPV mod is the better choice, IMO.
Looking at buying a new coffee machine and the choice is perplexing. Your review is excellent and very helpful. I make 6 plus coffees in the first part of the day and like everything BUT the slow steam heating you mention. I'll look at the pro you mention that improves on this. I love good coffee at home and use my machine daily and often. What to buy? I do like the grinder built in and auto tampering as my wife makes the coffees first thing and needs easy. But the slow steam on our present machine is low. You mention 75 seconds that's a lot. I have CFS/ME and standing wrecks me. The PRO you mention might be the better choice. Also I couldn't work out what the difference was between Express and Impress for which I came here. Thanks for clearing that up. The other plus in the grind and tampering option is less mess I'm guessing too. Thanks for the help and great review. About to search for your PRO review. How important is the right tampering. I don't find it hard to tamper evenly and the right pressure to let coffee though am I missing something?
Thanks for the review. It's a great machine, easy to look like a Barrister to the great unwashed and not having grinds everywhere on the bench top is a huge plus.
I own Barista Express and Pro. I agree with all your comments there. Thank you for the video
With this being the type of machine sold at big box stores or recommended regularly online as "the best espresso machine" by food/bev/lifestyle etc... publications, it will end up being a great buy for many beginners unfamiliar with the hobby. Seems to be a sweet spot between semi and fully auto with a significant price savings over the latter.
I’m new to making espresso, bought this about 2 months ago. I’m not overly snobbish about my espresso, but I know how I like it, and I know which shops in my coffee-loving city make the best espresso. The shots that I get from this machine are as good as any that I’ve bought since, well, probably ever.
@@markroberts8975 that's good to hear! I had a barista pro for a bit and it was a great machine as well. It really seems like breville keeps knocking it out of the park in this category.
@@evergreen4940 my only regret is that it took me so long to buy it!
Awesome review as always man! I was really hoping Breville were going to include this new tamping feature on the Barista Pro because as you mentioned it is a much better and more efficient machine. If they upgraded the Pro to have the lever tamping and the pressure gauge I really think they'd be on a winner for the sub 1K machine mainstream (non specialist) market.
It's called Pro for a reason. You'll get better espresso when tamping manually
Agree with this. I'd buy the pro tomorrow if it had this tamping system.
@@dombaker1924 why Pro and not this Impress version? The price is almost the same . I need to decide which one I'll get this week ) both on sale. Thanks
Breville Barista Pro vs Barista Express Impress
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I bought the Pro in the end and really glad i did. It's worth it for the thermojet heater alone that you don't get on the impress!
I would love this machine with the look and the steamwand / technology of the pro
awesome review! I hope Breville makes a grinder only but with the auto tamper too! I need those. lol
That would be interesting!
Interesting, herein germany it's being sold by Sage. I just bought this machine a week ago and I love it. It's my first "serious" espresso machine.
Hi! Love the video. Super helpful. In your opinion is the espresso from the Impress better than from a superautomatic? Currently have the Delonghi ECAM22110 and the espresso is just OK. Been looking at the Phillips Lattego machines or a newer Delonghi, but worry that they will also produce mediocre espresso, when compared to espresso from a really good coffee shop. I'm not interested in going full manual. Thanks!
Even a semi auto with a true single wall filter basket is a step up in quality from a super auto, absolutely
Hi! loved the review, just got the machine recently. Any tips on burr setting and grind size? So far used it only with supermarket coffee and had nothing but issues to be honest, will go tomorrow to buy fresh coffee hopefully will make it better :)
How to Dial In Breville Barista Pro
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Seems an easy way for even advanced baristas to make a very consistent espresso. I’d call this the daily-runner while the separates would be the weekend tinkering.
I just want to make coffee at home that’s as good as coffee shops, as a former barista I know that we don’t hand stir the espresso grinds. I feel like this machine is good enough for me as a moderate coffee snob! 😊
Would be good to test it with a bottomless portafilter to find out whether it's channelling.
Thanks to your review i will be getting the profitec pro 400. Upgrading from duo temp pro
Enjoy!
Thank you for this almost 11 minutes video. Informative and instructive. May I ask how many hours it took for the entire process from preparation to the final cut?
My videos generally take around 20 hours of total work. Not including product testing obviously
@@LifestyleLab_ 😳wow! Thank you once again…. I have an old Gaggia classic and had a Braville Express. I might just go for the Braville Bambino Plus particularly because of the auto steaming feature.
Great review. Since Breville didn't add the thermojet feature to the Impress, it sounds like the one to wait for is a revised Barista Pro if they ever add the new puck prep and tamping features. I like the look of the pro but I wish it had the added tamping features.
But how long? I doubt it will be anytime soon 😭
@@AmiAki probably not which is why I just bought the Bambino Plus. It's been great so far.
@@Icipher4 that was my first choice but I don’t have space in my small kitchen for the separate stuff like the grinder and then to find space to store the coffee and milk tools needed, not when I live with 3 other people!
So I rather go with all in one machine that’s more compact like Barista Pro or Barista Touch. I’m just not sure which one to get.
Although Touch does have a good Black Friday offer at the moment 🤔
@@AmiAki Understood. Yes, the Touch does have good pricing right now. The video reviews I've seen on that model all indicate it's very good and the built in grinder performs very well, which is probably the most important component of making good espresso. The touch also has the automatic milk texturing that the bambino also has, and I can tell you, it makes excellent micro foam.
@@Icipher4 that’s good to hear about the auto steaming performing well. Thank you for your thoughts!
You touch on the heating system on the Impress and the steaming performance( or lack there of) compared to the Pro. The ThermoJet system allows for quick and powerful steaming, but back to back drinks on the Pro also serve it's own challenges. This could open up the limitations on the ThermoJet heating system or possibly pick out a design flaw. Typically two back to back drinks brew fine, however when you demand more back to back drinks, it starts to become obvious that something is not right. Brew times become long and shot quality degrades. You can counteract this by adjusting the grind a bit coarser, but that can throw everything off. Give it is a shot some time and see if your Pro experiences that issue that my Pro does.
I do agree that the thermocoil machines are slightly more “stable” than the new thermojet models. A good point to bring up! Thanks
Great machine for new barista. But i think many people will sell it for another one after a while when they learn much more. Because you cant experiment with tamping wdt tool et.
Great review tho! Always love the videos 🤠🤠
Might be the case for sure!
I think many people go that route of starting with a Breville, learning, and then moving on to something more manual after a few years. Not the worse progression at all :)
Good review. I bought the Impress yesterday, should get it soon and I was struggling between it and the Pro. Is faster steam is the only reason you recommend the Pro over this one or is there something else to consider?
Steaming power is the largest difference for sure
Great review! I have the Barista Express and absolutely love it, best purchase I have made. I like the Impress too but imo this new tamping system looks ugly and out of place. The Barista Express is a beautuful piece of machinery, this just looks off. At least they kept the analog pressure gauge.
Honestly this is the best Esspresso for its money I still love my Barrista express 2 yrs still going strong very convienient to use…
Worth the money 100%… and if you do little upgrades it’s a Beauty..
Alan H
I was also curious if they'd update to the newer thermo jet heating system. Bit disappointing there.
Great review. I finally may replace my Express with this.
Looking at this, I wish they will add the dose knob when they udpate the Oracle.
Great review
The other advantage is size for machines with inbuilt grinders. Not everyone has the space for a separate grinder on their bench top nor the other bits you might want from perfect puck preparation. Looks like a good challenger to De’longhi, the only thing that would make it a real winner is having the bean hopper that allows for changing beans easily.
This does have a bean hopper for easy bean changes :) unlocking it blocks the flow of beans so it can be removed and swapped out
Thanks for the video. Yes, I am really IMPRESSED ;-) What about the chanelling when tamping without prior distribution? Have you tried botomless portafilter? I will stay with my Barista Pro ;-)
As mentioned in the espresso portion of the review, I was surprised at how little channeling / inconsistency there was given the minimal puck prep. I think it's perfectly fine as is, likely due to the larger dose, and the slimmer taller 54mm portafilter
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Sounds really good :-) Greeetings from Poland.
They need a good single dose hopper and a steam/water lever similar to the one they put on for the tamp. I don’t understand why they don’t look at the aftermarket products available to integrate and make the machine more usable. That said, I’m super happy with my barista express.
Looks great but I'll still get the "old" express as I really wanna learn it manually . It kinda is the same with photography. Everyone can get great shots with auto mode.
one of those dosing cups from crema would solve the issue with re distributing before tamping. but the issue is will it fit? the clearance under the tamper is very tight compared to the old express.
If you’re going to use a dosing cup with this machine then there is absolutely zero reasons to go with this over the Barista Pro
Very well thought out review. i have a regular barista express and love it, even with its slow steam wand. what i really want is something close to a barista express but that can easily make two double shot lattes very quickly for when i have a guest and want to share a latte coffee experience together. the problem with barista express for me is it takes too much time to make two double shot lattes. any advice for me on my next machine purchase?
You could go with the Barista Pro if you’re looking for more speed in the latte department
@@LifestyleLab_ that makes sense. is there any category of machine that is designed to brew two latte's even faster? i guess that would be something that could have two portafilters brewing espresso simultaneously and a steam wand that is very powerful to very quickly steam a larger jug of milk. is there such a thing?
I’ve never heard of a two group home espresso machine, no. That’s something you’d only see in a commercial setting
Keep in mind that you may have two portafilters, but there's still only one of you. I have a Breville Pro, and when I have a friend over, I make their coffee first, then mine. Two group heads and portafilters wouldn't speed things up. Can't concentrate on more than one drink at a time. For what you're describing, the Pro is probably the way to go. The instant heat-up is fantastic and allows the machine to keep up with you.
The steamer handle if you could even call it that is my biggest annoyance on the express and looks like they've not improved on that here, a lever would have been a big improvement. No choice of manual tampering (without the mess) what happens if the mechanism breaks. The auto tampering might cut out a minute from my routine with the Express. I do like the little gamification of the tampering dial.
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bought mine 11 years ago, its still works like day one, the grinder broke but the espresso still great.
So it doesn’t work like day one if the grinder broke LOL
@@FJDH11 the actual espresso maker still works great. Bought a grinder seperately. 11 years is a long time
Have you tried this with a naked portofilter? Is there a lot of channeling with the tamping system?
Doing all I can to increase your followers. Great as always!
Appreciate you! 🙏
How does the tamping function work if you use manual dose mode? Does it ignore the tamping depth that it should be at, compared to when you use the auto dose?
Same question ? Maybe you should use single dose filter ? It Will be less quality than double !
Thank you for this great review. I was waiting for your opinion about this machine. I know you’ve said before that you really like the Oracle. Price point aside, which one would you recommend more between these two? I think I am leaning more towards the Oracle but would like your opinion first. I highly value you advice, you are the best. Thank you so much!
If you have the budget, the Oracle is pretty must unbeaten in terms of its mix of practicality and coffee quality
@@LifestyleLab_ thank you so much! You have just made up my mind!
@@LifestyleLab_ which one though? The first Oracle or Oracle Touch?
@@gailoakley4010 did you end up getting the Oracle or Oracle Touch?
@@melissasmith2019 I ended up getting the Touch, but I wish I went with the Oracle without the touch screen. The touch screen is really not needed. I would recommend to anybody trying to decide between these two to save a lot of money and don’t get the touch screen.
Could you time grind a 3/4 dose and then WDT followed by topping off on auto and using the tamper?
Perhaps this would defeat the purpose but it would avoid the over filled basket and grind spilling while allowing WDT.
You could I suppose, but if going that route you might as well just use a dosing cup, WDT, and then tamp with the built in tamper
Wondering if coffee will taste better than Jura. We do own one. My husband loves super automatic machines but I prefer semi automatic. Might be the perfect compromise
Hope they update the dual boiler before, and perhaps work with baristas to optimize the quarks!
They did not
@@oualidtrabelsi5784 tbf they did quite a nice dual boiler update with Lance Hedrickson, but they won't sell it to us for some reason....
Great reciew! Puzzled about smooth and or course grinds though, does that all depend on the type of coffee bean you buy? I have no clue what the purpose is, I'm coffee illiterate lol
A finer grind gives a slower and more rich extraction than coarser grounds.
Thank you!
very good reliable machine - user for 6 years
Lol that cheeky shoulder brush 😆
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Have you seen or used the GE Profile Semi Automatic Espresso Machine? It looks interesting, but I have yet to really see any reviews on it, I'd love your input.
A great machine for beginners or maybe company offices is a good choice.
Kind of surprised they haven’t put their auto milk steamer system on it. Seems like that ease of use matches the target market here.
Wow thats a nice upgrade! Is it also possible to make a long coffee with this machine?
You can make however you like :)
Bro considered the fact that most of viewers will prolly speed up the video before recording . Good job .
Glad that they dimensioned the machine to actually operate at 9 bar. The previous barista express was seemingly engineered to deliver 9 bar with the pressurized basket (why on earth would you use them regularly) and a normal basket was impossible to run at lower than 14 bars. It was a very tough balance point to find between channeling or huge underextraction, unless you were willing to do a dimmer mod on a machine under warranty
Agreed. Just moving to 9 bar is a huge upgrade. I fought with my barista express for a year until I did the 9 bar spring mod and it was like unlocking a new level of performance from the machine. For someone who doesn’t steam a lot of drinks, this seems like a great option for those mornings when you just want a nice espresso between meetings without all the fuss.
@@tuxkilla615 This is switching the over pressure valve spring with a weaker one, right?
I went the "dimmer" mod route with an SCR power controller on the pump circuit, that way I have full control on the flow/pressure of the brew and you avoid having too much wasted water in the drip tray
@@dieltotor Correct. Some person on reddit posted a spring from McMaster-Carr which drops the pressure to 9 bar. The only issue with the OPV mod is the drip tray fills up much faster, which I am assuming is something breville addressed in this new machine.
@@tuxkilla615 I'm curious to know if they kept the same pump and just set the OPV to 9 bar with a recirculation of the water in the intake, or if they put a more adapted pump and ditched the pressurized basket optimization nonsense.
From the look of the shot we see in the video, it seems they chose a better pump and the user has to grind at the correct size to get the 9 bars
Even my Bambino is 9 bar. I threw the pressurized baskets out as soon as I got it.
If you want to go fully manual, just get a dosing cup attachment for the portafilter, switch to manual dosing and off you go?
Yup!
Great review as usual ! I hesitate between the Barista Pro or the Impress, witch one would you suggest ?
If you make primarily lattes, go with the pro. If you don’t plan on steaming all that often and are a beginner to puck prep, go with the Impress
Hey why would you say pro for primarily lattes?
Because it is a WAY better steamer in terms of speed and switching back and forth between brewing and steaming
thank you
Great review mate! I own a Barista Express but I have noticed that the machine pulls inconsistent shots from coffee to coffee even though the coffee beans, dose, the grind size, the WDT and tamp pressure are the same. I weigh my dose every time I make a coffee, I don't keep beans in the grinder.
I have programmed the 2 coffee button for a yield of 44ml for 2 cups (22ml per shot) but the next shot may come out to be 50ml or even 40ml.
Why so much inconsistency with the whole Breville Barista range?
If you have an older Express, it’s likely running at higher pressure, which makes consistency difficult. That’s why the 9 bars on this machine is such a big deal
@@LifestyleLab_ My machine is the Breville Barista Express BES870SS just bought a month ago, virtually new.
@@LifestyleLab_ are you sure this machine is different from the old ones regarding pressure? The website has the same statement with 9 bar for the old express and the newer express impress.
I believe they are now also shipping the Barista Express at 9 bars!
Enjoy your videos. 😁
Thanks for tuning in!
I can believe you don’t need to WDT. I only had to start doing WDT after moving from a Flair Pro2 to a Flair 58
I once bought the Barista Express on Black Friday and yes I was one of the super frustrated beginners who just couldn't handle the machine, especially the mess after each time I was grinding into the portafilter, which can't be done without a massive amount of spillage. Besides, the espresso I got out of this machine was always under extracted, and there was no noticeable improvement even after going finer with the grind setting. Seems the BE (basic) doesn't have an OPV or, as someone said in a previous comment, they designed the machine to run at 9 Bar when using the pressurized basket. That would be a great improvement if they fixed that with the new machine. I'm trying now with a more conventional portafilter-based espresso machine; so far, quite frustrating as well as regards to espresso, steaming power is great though:).
You can further adjust the grind size by taking out the burr and changing its fine adjustments. You can easily make specialty coffee espresso with the machine. There's just a slight learning curve since the default settings is made for mass market consumers who probably use Starbucks dark roasts.
great machine
Excellent
Is it possible to use just the grinder standalone without a portafilter? For example, when I need to grind for an Aeropress or a Hario?
Yes, can just flip it into manual grind mode
how does the coffee compare to a bambino with non pressure filter and grinder?
Depends what grinder
Thanks for this informative review. I had to get rid of my old Breville Barista Express as I was not confortable with Teflon coating particles getting into my coffee. I discovered it while removing the stainless plate where the water comes out. Do you know if they still use this Teflon coating under that plate or if it is now pure stainless steel? I am looking for this kind of machine without aluminum or Teflon getting in contact with the water. Thanks again!
Any plastics used in the water path of espresso machines is high temp safe. Not all plastic is made equal
That being said, if you’re looking for a 100% metal tubing water path you’re going to need to look at something more prosumer like Profitec
@@LifestyleLab_ Any recommandation in their product line for someone who needs to make good coffee without too much efforts during the week and experience a little bit more during the weekend?
Anything prosumer is going to be the same amount of work really. You’ll need to have a separate grinder, prep your puck, and go. The new Pro400 is a great machine for the $, just did a video on it a couple weeks back
@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks! I'll watch it and do my homeworks :-)
I will buy my first decent espresso machine when Breville puts this feature on a machine like the barista touch or on a barista express with a faster heating capacity like the touch
I bought this but cannot get this dialed in with old beans in single wall basket. Have been using the pressurized basket. Should I give up on single wall or can I use it somehow? I’m at 4 on upper burr and 5 on dial. @lifestyle lab
Make sure you’re using nice fresh beans and you shouldn’t have any issues. Dials in very nicely from my tests :)
Does this have the auto milk steaming feature from the Bambino Plus?
No it does not
Lookin to get my first espresso machine. Would you recommend this, Ranchillo silvia pro, or the flair 58. I already have a frother.
Just espresso - Flair 58 wins every time
If you’re going to be doing mostly milk drinks, go with the Silvia
@@LifestyleLab_Another option in the Diletta Mio which you reviewed. I am worried about the low cleararce you talked about between drip tray and portifilter. Still flair over this one? Thanks for responding.
Also a good option. Most machines have low clearance, which can be fixed with a bottomless portafilter :)
I'm confused, you stated the traditional Barista Express has 9 bars of pressure, or did you mean "Traditional Espresso Machine Pressure", I looked this information up on the original B/E, they state 15 bars???
So which is it please?
Thanks for the great reviews, always enjoy!!
15 bars is the pump pressure. New Brevilles are 9 bars at the group head. Refer to the official product pages
You were the reason I got my machine. But hopefully you can answer a question for me. Every grind size I try, I keep getting 24g ground out. I haven't gone below a 10 on the dial so I don't know if that's how I get to 19 like you said. Do you have any suggestions?
With this machines auto dosing, you don’t have control over this. Just use the grind size to dial in, and use a brew ratio that makes sense for the dose. So if you’re getting 24g, pull around a 50g shot to start
If you really want to control your dose, you can turn the dosing to manual and use the timer dial, like on any of the other Brevilles, or only put in the dose you want to the hopper and grind all the way through like I show in my dialing in video :)
@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks for the tips! Did you find that using the manual dose knob to get 18g was easy or was it just kind of a headache?
I think it’s an unnecessary pain. The automatic dosing / tamping on the Impress is dead easy and works great, just dial in with grind and shot size as you normally would
QUESTION: Would you know if the "Wheel Sets for Barista Express" would fit Express Impress? The seller isn't sure but gosh, I would need those wheels on my EI! Help!
Hi, your videos are excellent, thanks for doing this. My wife and I really want this machine. However, we are on our second one in a week. We tested the pressure on both machines using a single wall filter with the cleaning tool inserted on top of it and ran just water through the filter. From other videos, including one by Breville, the pressue gauge should move to the upper limit on the pressure gauge. But, on both machines we've purchased, the pressure barely gets to the halway point. We have tried other tests with coffee, various burr and grind settings and when extracting a shot of coffee the pressure barely makes it into the black part of the pressure gauge. Are we just unlucky and have run into two straight faulty machines or are we missing something?
Is water exiting the spouts when you use the cleaning disc? Or is the flow completely stopped? What's the flow rate of coffee in the tests you've performed?
@@LifestyleLab_ Hi, no, no water is exiting the spouts. There is a small amount of water on top of the disk after the test. The highest we've been able to get the pressure up to when try a shot of coffee is somewhere between 9 and 10 o'clock. When just running the pressure test with no coffee ( cleaning disk ) the pressure will get to about 10 o'clock, maybe 11 but never close to 1-3 o'clock like I have seen in tests from other videos.
This is because the Barista Machines now run at a proper 9 bar instead of previous where they were up at 11-12. Your machine is fine.
Focus on dialing in the actual shot to taste, not so much on the numbers :)
@@LifestyleLab_ OK, thanks very much. Will play around some more then. We've changed the burr setting to 3, and have tried various grind settings but not really getting the crema we should be getting. All the pucks are quite wet and don't come out of portafiller cleanly. Using store bought beans, tried various baskets. Will keep playing with it. Really appreciate your replies, will subscribe to your channel
Crema is an indicator of freshness, not proper flow rate. If you bought beans from a grocery store, they're likely quite stale. Go to a local roaster and you'll have Crema galore.
I wonder if they will ever update the Barista Touch. I've been holding off making a purchase because of this. Its like 4 years old at least already and due for an update.
The Barista Touch is already an updated model. It has the new heating system. I wouldn’t anticipate an update any time soon… you’ll be waiting a long time
@@LifestyleLab_ You mention that the Barista Touch won't be updated for some time and that it was updated not too long ago. When was it updated and why is there a sale going on now in the United States for about 14% off bringing the Touch to $899.00 if Breville isn't trying to clear stock for a possible new model? I'm looking to purchase my first at home espresso maker and I don't want to have FOMO. 😃 Thank you for your informative review!
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So odd I think the pro could have been made obsolete if they would have just put the thremo jet and maybe made it possible to pull out the ports filter without making a mess. The fact that you can get the thermo jet in the bambino which is way cheaper is kinda crazy