How James [Yaaqov] Beloved Brother of Jesus Was Written out of Early Christianity
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- A detailed survey of our earliest sources on James--whose proper name was Jacob of Yaaqov--the brother of Jesus, was written out of the standard master narrative of Christian history. What can we know about James, by trying to reassemble all the disparate strands of evidence, from the Gospels, Acts, Paul, and our earliest post-New Testament sources.
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Dr. Tabor, I agree with you that James the Just was written out of Early Christianity. Truthfully I have never been too keen on Pauline Christianity or the teachings of systematic theology in the Protestant Church. We seem to be entering an age of spirituality, like in Early Christianity, and your teachings are extremely helpful and needed!
the past year the Orthodox Church has been growing alot which is pretty interesting.
Paul was the Spouter of Lies, according to many of the Dead Sea scrolls.
@@whig01 can you explain?
@@whig01 who besides Eisenman says that?
@@andrewclemons8619Margaret Barker thinks that Paul is "Balaam" in Revelation, his companion Lydia is "Jezebel", and "the synagogue of Satan" is Paul's group, as Paul was telling people the Torah was useless and couldn't save anyone. It's all in Margaret Barker's book The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Dr Tabor, I want to let you know that this work is reaching, many old souls, those who participated in the passages of these texts from long ago. Your insight and sharing of this old experiences, histories are part of the process of waking up and remembering who/what we truly are. Each of your videos have assisted me deeply, so I give my thanks for your work. Each person gets/receives their allotted share, based on their own soul journey, purpose and their walk with the Lord. Thank you, Thank you , Thank you.
Dr. Tabor, thank you for bringing Eisenmann's work to us today! Very controversial, but more than plausible to me. You made my Saturday awesome
A one and half hour video on James?! Awesome!
Of all of Paul's churches, only one that is mentioned in Revelation was Ephesians. And Ephesians was commended for "opposing false apostles"
Don't count the number of Churches in Asia that Paul interfaced with. You won't get to the magic 7 mentioned in Revelation. At least 9, maybe more if you count the Isle of Patmos. The 7-day week was likely a fabrication after the Romans adopted it circa 150AD. Read Genesis 1 again, and count how many times "God said" ... the magic 7 again is an editorial insertion with the Masoretes (or possibly earlier post-exilic).
Oh my goodness, I never even _noticed_ that! What a great insight! After learning about all of this years ago, it's easy to accept that Revelation was written by a follower that was more from James' thread than Paul's camp. Seeing that he had very little to say to the people in any of Paul's church plantings speaks volumes.
@@MessageinaBottleComments Or the Nicolaitans! Trained by Stephen (Acts martyr) who was trained by Peter.
@@mshaffer-2629 can you point me in a direction where I can learn more about Steven and the Nicolaitans? I had not heard that there was a connection there.
@@mshaffer-2629 never mind, found it.
Thank you so much Dr. Tabor for sharing this lecture with us, your TH-cam follower group🙏 Very captivating indeed. And I also appreciate that this video is longer than usual.
Veggies are keeping me alive and young, also I've not been a fan of your teaching until very recently. Thank you so much for being an obedient brother. Shalom
Love the content but the commercials every 5 mins is a bit much.
What a wonderful interpretation , James. As a vegetarian myself and someone who has moved on from conventional ideas about what Christianity was or was meant to be, your ideas iron out a lot of conflicts for me, just wonderful. In my own personal interpretation, now, John the Baptist, Jesus and then James would all have been successors as leaders or teachers of their movement, equal in stature but offering respect to one another with their compliments. I take this interpretation as I follow something called Santa Mat which , being akin to Sikhism, follows a succession of Masters or Gurus, each successor appointed by the previous and complimented to encourage followers to accept the new appointee but also for the sake of humility. We are vegetarians and do not take alcohol. Much of our teaching accords with that of Jesus, universal truths. I just love the saying, " my house should be a house of prayer" and " I require prayer not sacrifice" Thank you James.
Its pretty interesting. I'm a Roman Catholic. But I wonder if this what Rastafarians model alot of their religion on. Never taking a razor to ones hair, only eating fish and vegetables. its the first thing I thought of being a fan of reggae music lol.
he ate locust (shrimps), veggie ?
Red wine and plenty of meat for me.
@@cooloutacNo Rastafarian’s have a much sillier origin story.
@@stehfreejesseah7893 do explain. Cause it Sounds like James's influence to me lol.
😱my Sunday class came early
James, thank you for impeccable insights & scholarship on THE James, and how his history connects us to Jesus, Paul, and the big C! Thank you, your Paul & James studies helped reveal a new connection all NT scholars will want to explore
Good Stuff on the "Eyewitness Stuff" (keep it coming please )
Hi James. Really appreciate your work, especially on James. I've known about a rather obscure book for some time now, but I never made the connection to your work before you mentioned Jame's High priestly connections through Mary. In her book _Searching for a political Mary amoung the daughters of Judaen Queen Mariamne_, Cleta M Flynn makes exactly that argument. Flynn is not an academic, and she writes from a feminist perspective. I have tried but failed to get an academic scholar to evaluate her argument. Basically she goes through the Hasmonean princesses mentioned in the Bible and connects them to figures in the Bible. She thinks that behind the biblical stories there lies a story of the political struggle between Herodian and Hasmonean factions vying for power. Jesus had both Hasmonean and highpriestly blood, and that made both him and James a threat. That may sound a little like forcing the issue, but she has done her homework in Josephus. She thinks Mary was a Hasmonean princess that deliberately arranged a marriage between her son Jesus and Mary of Bethany who also is a high preistly princesses and relative of Mary and that it was likely this that occassioned both the triumphal entry and the execution of Jesus as a "political threat". See her website: mysearchforpoliticalmary.com/ She has several sections on James where she makes many of the same arguments you have made. Perhaps some of her work might connect with yours? It would be fascinating to hear your response to her work on your blog.
I am really getting into this idea. I remember years ago thinking..Wait a minute..James???? How come he is the head of the church in Jerusalem??? So many tantalising hints all over the place.
Virtually no Christian follows the teachings of Christ they follow the teachings of Paul
However Professor Tabor knows better
Paul taught atonement; Jesus taught forgiveness.
Worshiping the sacrificing of humans to appease a god is evil, but Jesus is a fictional character. Therefore, it's a toss-up.
@@EvilXtianity everything in your post is incorrect
@@EvilXtianity well, even non religious people believe in a certain duality. Of good things having to come out of evil things. can't have one without the other sort of thing. Jesus, or if you want to call it the idea of Jesus, was ahead of his time. The idea ended animal sacrifice even for jews in the end. The whole philosophy and morality is embedded in all of us. So even onejohn follows Christ. He just doesn't realize how much he does lol. BTW if Paulines won I wouldn't be a circumcised Roman Catholic lol. But honestly probably would of been better if he did, because too many Christians defend old testament laws which are for caveman times lol.
@@onejohn2.26.
How so?
@@EvilXtianity ya its always wild when people tell me that, because for example I'm a circumcised Christian lol. And lets not forget it was Jesus himself refuting alot of old testament laws. It was Peter who was first assigned the gentiles. Stephen the apostle that Paul had killed, was literally killed for refuting Moses, and Stephen doubled down in front of the Pharisees. Paul probably never forgot that.
10:00 consider "son behold your mother" as a way for Jesus to address, comfort and acknowledge his mother in front of violent, mocking strangers, without telling the crowd that she was in fact his mother.
He could comfort her without drawing her into the position he was in
20:00 is another effort for him to distance himself from his family.
Imagine the instance of MLKing being threatened and manipulated through his family.
Much of Jesus actions seem to deliberately hide his family, he was the only one to know what he was protecting them from.
I agree my friend. Tabor instilled this idea in me.
Right around the 22:00 min mark, about the muting of James from the story - a good reason could be the influence of the annanias/anias priesthood that father and son managed was so heavy handed during the day, the writers left it out for fear of their work being burnt. Peter alludes to this kinda thing in the clementines.
Also, the author could have inserted it, but later influence by the one high priest family dynasty that has a vendetta out a against Jesus’ family, forced a scribe to later change the text during one of the hand copy sessions under his jurisdiction, to omit James name and presence from the record.
Well presented. Thanks for the notes. My favorite was the part where you interpreted.
That was wonderful. Thank you. Strange how I never, ever, had a good feeling about Paul. Power crazy, ego centric individual. This explains so much when the dots are joined up and we see the bigger picture.
I agree. And yet, in reading the paradigm of the community that used the Dead Sea scrolls, without Paul where would Christianity get its mysticism from?
well lets face it. ALot of laws in the old testament are barbaric. Grappeing a woman to make them your wife, as your "punishment". Slaps on wrists for killing slaves....etc... I mean we can list a whole lot of silly or downright evil "laws". You think Christians should live by those laws? Paul was a Hero. You might as well ask for sharia law in your neighborhoods...smh. Christians follow the new testament. We have evolved past barbaric caveman, we were now able to learn and advance further to holiness, and God understood that.
he was necessary and was chosen by God.
I think Paul is earnest about his visions, but that their source was the "thorn in [his] flesh".
Landsborough 1987. St Paul and temporal lobe epilepsy. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1032067/
McCrae and Whitley,2014. Exaltation in temporal lobe epilepsy: neuropsychiatric symptom or portal to the divine? scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=10462286648834528885
Georgy 2021. Neurotheology: Insights on the relationship between the brain and religion through the life and ministry of St. Paul The Apostle scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=5020220322454672719
@@cooloutacyes Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ to dispense the gospel to the gentiles
Mr Tabor, can you please post a link for the pdf of this document?
We would love to dig into the entirety of it !!!
Dr Tabor, I read James not eating meat as not eating animal flesh that could be sacrificed, meaning that he's pescetarian. This fits Jesus, who is depicted as eating fish several times, performed miracles with fish, whose disciples were fishermen, and who came to be symbolized with a fish. Also, Marcion, an early second generation Christian was said to be a pescetarian, and the Catholic Church retains eating fish as a devotional practice. It makes sense that this all traces back to eating fish as a protest to Temple sacrifice.
Or more likely, the galilean fish episodes are second century fictions in opposition to the righteous veganism of Jesus, James and the Nazarite prophets of Elohim.
Fish is not considered to be meat. Fish don’t breathe air in the sense how a lamb breathes air. Fish are not of the land.
A typical eastern interpretation… the animals have the breath of life , and so under the 6th commandment , one should not commit unprovoked violent acts. If Jesus and others wouldn’t need to eat any animals out of hunger they wouldn’t. Along these lines, the gospels are a bit of a compromise. Sometimes the writers say Jesus multiplied fish , sometimes they don’t say that. Jesus of course never says he fed fish to the masses , that shows a bit of respect from the NT writers who would rather “suggest “ than out right lie about what Jesus did. Like the last supper also, they call it the feast of lamb , but of course we know what the disciples ate on the last Passover.
Dr. Tabor, great content, excessive adds. Thank you. 🙏
I think reading Tabor many years ago was my first real reconsideration of the role that James played after the death of Jesus.
It was quite eye opening.
James' tiny epistles stuffed full of high explosive tnt.
I'm not a Christian but James the Just is such a fascinating character. Eisenman had me almost convinced that he was the Righteous Teacher. Maybe? Maybe not.
Only thing that didn't make sense to me about that book was how James got from the desert (Qumran community?) As leader of a rival priesthood, to sacrificing and praying in the holy of holies of the Jerusalem temple. I never read anything that explains this discrepancy, but I hope someone finds the link between these two places at that time.
@@kosmicwizard as someone else pointed out I think its only Eisenman that makes the connection. Doesn't make sense to me either.
Paul = the Just, the lesser (elder brother of Joses) was a whimp (Shammai)
Thank you once again for the last study
Another great video! Thanks!
A labour of love. Thank you muchly.
Thanks again, Dr. Tabor.
Great ideas. THANKS ♥
It makes so much sense James, great video. Xx
Marys' are the brains of the operation! Love it!
It would make sense that Merry was of Priestly and Royal descent as Jesus has been referred to as both king and Priest. So yes is very likely that Jesus Family may have held priestly roles such as James. Great video brother
1:18:36 Not only is the resurrection not mentioned in that jewish-christian source but neither the death on the cross, because according to this text he only "suffered" but did not die. Likewise in several writings of the new testament "suffering" was later replaced by dying. (see Bart Ehrman: "the orthodox corruption..." ) In the letter to "Abgar" Jeschua writes: "When I will be lifted up i will send you one of my disciples..." in complete accordance with the jewish christian source mentioned here. ---> Jewish christians believed that their master suffered on the cross but without actually dying there.
Not only was he written out of Christianity, he name was perverted to James, when in fact as you note, it was Jacob.
This is essential if you read about the prophecies of the Messiah Death Event (MDE) in Isaiah.
* The wicked house of Jacob will be burned in a fire and the altar will be like chalkstone - a Tunguska-like airburst event, see any local pollen samples around 31 AD.
* Then a NEW house of Jacob was formed, strangers inherited the land and the unlearned were taught. This is why the learned Paul disliked the group.
* They were direct witnesses of the airburst event and participated in Matt 24. It already happened.
* There was a power vacuum in Jerusalem from 31 AD until 70 AD as Rome suffered significantly (likely Tiberius/Caligula participated in the MDE, entered the holy of holies and announced "I am God" - another fulfilled prophecy). Two Caesars and 100,000 soldiers die, creates a power vacuum and struggle in Rome. Would you volunteer to be a soldier after? Before it was good wages, rape and pillage. Now it was, the Jewish God killed them all. And of course, if this version of MDE did occur, Rome would go to great efforts to recraft the narrative - and 300 years later, the Constatine-Helena solution is implemented. Clearly this God is more powerful, so lets adopt them.
* Twelve apostles were 10. They were sent away to the nations before the MDE. The 12 disciples were after the MDE. Conflation of apostles/disciples - what are there names in Hebrew? How is it possible that Yeshua's "apostles" don't have a single Hebrew name. That is further evidence of the purging of the Yaaqov narrative in Jerusalem.
Santiago de Compostella
James represented "the Way" which was the original group of which Jesus was the leader. The Jewish Messianic sect of Qumran were militant Messianic Jews. In my opinion, this is the origins of Christianity. James is mentionsd in the scrolls and is identified with the Qumran sect in the Gospels. James and Paul were at odds. Paul spread a "Jew-less" version of Christianity that was heavily influenced by the Roman state. This became the Christianity we know today. The authentic teaching of Jesus and the dogma of Christianity are 2 entirely different things. Jesus taught transcendence. I believe James was killed in 70 AD when he was thrown off the wall at the Temple just before it was destroyed. These are just my opinions from studying the origins of Christianity for 25 years. I am in no way an expert or professional like James Tabor.
Abrupt ending but very very good
thank you!! love this
23:30 - there are many many cases of fathers and sons being killed, in this "war". Virtually all of them have been Palestinian.
the catholic church denies Mary had any other kids other than jesus..who knows what went on in antiquity..amen
Dear Prof., Could you give me the reference to the Latin and Syriac translation of the ascents of James , and links to the history of these writings. I would like to download them . Thanks in advance, Christopher Jesudason
Yaakov HaTsadik, it is sad he was erased from history, what an amazing person looks that he was.
Dr Tabor, Have you considered that Lazarus is the disciple whom Jesus loved? Lazarus is the only male in scripture who is loved by Jesus, by name. He lived in Bethany, which was a town where the sick were cared for; he was of a priestly line, which is why he could enter the trial and persuade the girl to allow Peter in as well; Lazarus is named as being in Abraham's bosom with sores (probably becoming sick caring for others with leprosy); scripture says all the apostles fled after Jesus's arrest, so Lazarus may have been at the cross with Mary, being a disciple but not an apostle; and finally, when Peter asked of the fate of the disciple whom Jesus loved, the others have thought he wouldn't die because he had died once already. So I would contend that Lazarus is a better contender for the disciple whom Jesus loved than any other; but your case for James is also a possibility.
Unfortunately this video shows scrambled to me (TH-cam censoring it seems)... Hope I'll be able to see this soon, love your thoughts! (can still hear audio, so will listen to this as podcast if it doesn't get fixed soon enough ;) )
Still scrambled, any idea what causes that and how to fix it?
@@Gurbejong try a different resolution (lower quality)
@@ReadersOfTheApocalypse Thanks! I have the resolution on auto usually, but it works now I come back here (still on auto). But thanks for making me come back here, and for giving a workaround to try in case it happens again 👍🙏
James didn't want to be tortured. It was a security reason. But I wonder if the bloodline could be followed.
Dr. Tabor, I very much enjoy your scholarship. I was privileged to have attended a conference by Raymond Brown ( now deceased) in the early 80’s in Los Angeles. The conference talk was on the beloved disciple which he theorized as being someone outside of the known circle of popular Jesus followers. I have no doubt that you know of this theory because you have made reference to Brown in earlier talks. I always thought that this idea of Brown’s was intriguing. If the beloved disciple was John the brother of Jesus why not just name him? The lack of the name makes more sense to me if the BD is referencing some one the greater church doesn’t recognize, but is a character who holds importance for another fringe group of Christian’s who were not being accepted by the Jerusalem church. It’s clear that John’s gospel is written for a community with an expansive understanding of Jesus. Just wondering what you think of Brown’s theory.
@James Tabor Are you familiar with an early Jewish text called The Life of Adam and Eve? I recall that after they were cast out of the Garden, they mourned for their sin and sought forgiveness by immersing in either the Euphrates River OR the JORDAN RIVER!
What’s strange about translating Greek Yaakov into James is that LXX uses Yaakov as Jakob
The Word. is a apparently disembodied voice that speaks sometimes to some people. Listen for it and obey if visited by the Word
Dr. Tabor is there a way that document you showed is made available in pdf like you do with other presentations? I'm "obsessed" with the study of James the Just and this would be an excelent too to study.
Fascinating!
St Iakovos the Adelphothou (St James the male relative of God--Greek fathers, cousins; Latin fathers, step brothers) is considered the first Patriarch of the Mother Church by Orthodox Christians. ☦
Not the historical. Just like Peter wasnt the leader after Jesus
@@leom6343do you not watch Professor Tabors videos?
do you even watch any of Tabor's videos Leo?
@@RichACBlues hmm yes. The orthodox church is not the Jewish Christian church of James the brother of Jesus. They follow Paul.
@@leom6343 some orthodox get circumcised. They don't forbid it. As Jesus said my friend. Let those who receive it receive it.
Look carefully at Mark 16 first verse. After the Sabbath was passed Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and salami bought spices. So the first Sabbath had passed the high holy day. The Passover Sabbath on thursday. On Friday they bought the spices. Remember that on Wednesday morning they didn't expect Jesus to be murdered. So they had to acquire the spices for annoying the body but then Friday Sundown comes and they can't get back to the Tomb in time to do the anointing and they had to wait till Sunday morning. In that mechanism shows you that Christ was buried late Wednesday, before Sundown which became Thursday the Passover holiday. Therefore he was in the grave three full days and three full nights just as he said!
I don't know that I agree with Eisenman or Tabor about Paul. In looking at James' epistle and comparing it to Pauline soteriology, I don't see irreconcilable differences. James may embrace the law as a way of life, but not as a means to salvation. Paul simply knew that imposing the law on the gentiles, as a way of life, beginning with circumcision, would be both an impractical impediment to reaching more gentiles, and confusing and impossible as a means to salvation. Justification by works, for Paul, meant the works of the law. Justification by works, for James, meant proving faith through obedience and charity. It didn't mean justification by the law. James was the first to point out that whoever would stumble in one point of the law would be found guilty of all. He goes on to reiterate more than once that we are not to judge one another. He also speaks of a different law than the law of Moses - the law of liberty, which he refers to as the perfect law. This law is characterized by mercy, where mercy triumphs over judgement. And prior to this his emphasis is on what he calls the royal law - "love your neighbor as yourself." These are two distinct points of contrast with Mosaic Law. In no place does James admonish anyone to follow the law of Moses. Instead he speaks of the wisdom that is from above and addresses matters of the heart - asking us to put away bitter jealousy and selfish ambition and to humbly receive the word that is able to save our souls,
Circumstancially, James remained in Jerusalem and led the church from there, and no doubt observed Jewish customs, as did Paul when Paul returned there. On the matter of James being suppressed, I'm in complete agreement with Tabor's thesis. I think there was a general suppression of Jewish customs as the majority of converts were gentiles, to begin with. It may have lingered through the time of Polycarp, who still sought to preserve Nisan 14 as the date of Passover, and with Nepos, as he viewed eschatology through the eyes of Jewish prophets when debating with Dionysius of Alexandria. Eusebius, though from Caesaria, favored the power drift to Rome. The maintenance of a Jersulaem power center and episcopal dynasty, would be hard to maintain without a temple. All roads wound up leading to Rome. But James wrote "to the twelve tribes dispersed abroad" prior to the destruction of the temple. I view this as meaning both gentiles and Jews as a single people of God. If he had been writing to Jews alone, I think he would have mentioned keeping Torah.
Peter, for his part, was writing to "those who reside as foreigners in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bythinia." He writes to a smaller territory, which to me indicates that this was where he had evangelized. I can also take it that he wrote from Babylon. So, like James he lived among Jews, only in Babylon, and probably followed Jewish customs himself, but addressed both Jews and gentiles in his epistle. When comparing the scope of these two epistles, James's is broader, while Peter's is more specific. When we then realize that the relational proximity to the family of Jesus was dismissed, and we see James being held by tradition as one of the seventy, rather than James the Less, it becomes apparent that there was a power shift behind it.
I see the title James "the Less" as being a term of humility, rather than a reference to age or stature. James is a servant. He makes no reference to his blood relationship with Jesus in his epistle. Instead, he calls himself "a bondservant of God and Jesus the Christ."
I'm not sure I agree that Mary is conflated with Mary's sister. I see no evidence of toying with the names in early copy of John 19:25. I think the explanation for the children's names being the same runs as follows: Joseph was a widower and had four sons and some daughters - Salome, possibly Anna and a Mary. He needed a wife to take care of his large family after his first wife died. So he married Mary and then Jesus was born. Then Joseph died, leaving Mary with a very large family to care for but no husband. In response, Cleophas (Alpheus), who was coincidentally married to someone named Mary, stepped in to serve as the husband to the large family. Cleopas may also have had children of his own, and this may have included Levi (Matthew). Cleopas would have remained a widow's helper. The families would have always been a very close clan and Mary, the wife of Cleopas, would have always been considered Mary's sister. Cleops would then have been the stepfather of James, Joses, Simon (the Zealot) and Judas (Thaddaeus). Mary, the wife of Clopas, was considered Mary's "sister" because Clopas was Joseph's brother. She was a sister-in-law.
I might also suspect that James, (rather than John), was "the disciple Jesus loved." And this is important. Firstly, John never identified himself as such. John 19:25ff then shows Jesus giving James, not John, over to Mary as her son. He is admonishing James to care for her. This would make sense since Jesus used to care for her as her only son, since she was a widow. Two points support this: (1)John would have been less likely to go to the cross than James, a brother of the Lord. That would be a blood family thing mostly. (2) Even though Clopas had already been caring for the children of Joseph, it would not have been appropriate to assign a married man as a husband to care for Mary, the mother of Jesus, who was a widow. The declaration at the cross shows the entire relationship. Jesus was Mary's caregiver. James, the bondservant, would be properly assigned to care for his mother above his other brothers or sisters because he was a natural leader in the family. The assignment also shows the dynastic chain of command. He doesn't choose Jude or Simon or Joses first. He may not have been the oldest of the brothers. There is something to that title, "the disciple Jesus loved" that sets him apart. He wants James to fill his own shoes after he departs. The declaration of Jesus' choice as successor is given right there, sealed in the blood of the cross.
@1:19:29, is this the year 37 of the Julian calendar?
How can I get a copy of the notes?
I actually think the Gospel of John. Is really the account of James the Just. It was you who told us that was really Jesus's favorite Disciple. His younger brother. THe one who was leaning on him at the last supper, the one who was at the crucifixion. And it was you who told us why his family was written out. So they wouldn't be seen as a caliphate and a threat to Rome, instead of a religion or discredited one..
No way. He wouldn't have written in Greek and wouldn't have waited 60 to 80 years. He also was long gone when the gospel was written. His gospel was a gospel wicht taught to keep the law and he had a very low Christology. His gospel was followed by Jewish Christians
And the beloved disciple is a fictional character. John 21 also was added later on. In all 3 synoptics there was no one near the cross and no one talked to Jesus and all stand "far off".
@leom6343 you do realize nobody even wrote about Alexander the Great till 200 years later right? Did he really exist? Smh...
In all three synoptics people were at the crucifixion, and if all the gospels were the exact same as each other there wouldn't be a need to have four. And in the other gospels they certainly had to be close enough to hear what he said to God. And if John was written by James and he was standing right there he certainly knew what he said to him and his mother.
@@cooloutac no, only women are mentioned in two of the three gospels and they were far away. No one was standing next to the cross and no one talked to Jesus. The apostles were afraid and left Jesus in Matthew.
but god sent the paraclete to restore what was lost (true monotheism)
Tabor mentions Genesis 9 again , has he done any videos explicitly looking at genesis 9? I don’t really understand it, each sentence doesn’t appear to me to follow from the previous. The reckoning, and the lifeblood stuff.. I have a habit of cross examining this stuff with other religions/cultural practices n such , I have so many questions related to this
Seems like quite a big statement, if Paul actually said or meant that honoring the sabbath was not that important for Gentiles? Not eating meat and drinking wine is weak? Quite something. I am becoming a fan of Paul :)
He was the man. Greatest evangelical. And can be attributed to Jesus talking to Pharisees
Lol😢
I think you misinterpreted what was going on here. Paul was the spouter of lies and part of the sons of Darkness, according to the DSS. He likely participated in the martyrdom of James (did Acts cover it up by the introduction and immediate exit of Steven?). Paul often refuted these accusations by saying "And I lie not." But anyone can see that a Vegetarian would never eat flesh, and all Jews, by default, had a strong eversion to blood. The Eucarist is an abomination, possibly an inside joke of the Herodians and Flavians. Paul attacked the family and true followers of Jesus (the Ebionites) and inserted Christ, like a Greco-Roman mystery cult. And I don't have any problems with mystery schools, but in all honestly, I would have been more positively affected by experiencing the Eleusinian Mysteries (as an example) than wasting my life being born into a fake and contrived political religion designed to quell rebellion and control the masses. Exclusivity, utter destruction of all "pagan" myths (after Christianity rose to the position of official State religion of the Roman Empire), disconnecting humans from the cyclical patterns in nature, making time linear and a one time thing, after which there is a judgment that can condemn you to an eternity of suffering for a mistake you made in the impermanent temporal realm, by a Merciful supreme being who loves you. Completely illogical!
yeah Paul is awesome
Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: "Step by step, precept by precept." In accomplishing this world's purpose, GOD is constantly weaning us away from GUILT and guilt's child FEAR - which makes perfect sense once you learn why we are here. And this is a great video showing how GOD used John the Baptist to lead people away from the insane (guilt/fear-based) idea of "blood sacrifice for sin" with the idea of baptism with water, which represents Spirit. But it's not easy to wean children sometimes. And with organization, Christianity stuck itself with Paul's false and insane BAD NEWS "gospel" of JUDGMENT and VICARIOUS BLOOD SACRIFICE FOR "SIN."
My soul has come as Elijah and John the Baptist...and Moses before that. And now, with my discarnate soul twin Rose, I come as the "two witnesses" of Revelation Chapter 11. But like most people, I have no memory of my former lives. And all of my understanding is delivered to me in my everyday life...which has been extremely blessed and interesting, which is why I know what I know. And with this video Dr. Tabor - who I very often disagree with - gave me insight into the purpose of baptism; I who WAS John the Baptist! And this is a perfect example of how a lack of fear allows one to have the wisdom to accept Truth where one finds it....which is why I am able to play the roles that I have been given. With that in mind...
All important mysteries have been unveiled and published in these "end times": the end of the old Cycle of Time that the New Cycle may be born. And if you seek you will find!
Maybe Simon Magus was one of the twelve.
Unless I missed it, I'm surprised you didn't mention the episode in Acts 21:17-26. That passage describes James as a zealous follower of the law of Moses including the ordinances of the Temple.
James was not written out of the history. He just appears as Pseudonyms and include: Jacob (James). Joseph. Joseph of Arimathea. Joseph Barsabbas Justus. Man of the Pool of Bethsaida. Malchus. Solomon. Absolom (also in the Dead Sea Scrolls). Laity. Presbyters. Cleopas. Nemo. Epilecptic. Rich Man. Lame Man. Aeneas.
Thanks to you Barbara Thiering.
In Dutch the James of the Bible is named " Jacobus"
In Spanish it’s Santiago
dutch ; Zebedeus
@@willempasterkamp862 ??? No Jacobus!!!
Jerome supposedly had read both the Hebrew and Greek Matthew and chose to endorse the Greek. I have to also consider the details in Jesus' teachings and the events accounts as much as the names. Luke, Mark and John all defy doctrines and events of Matthew, and how is the account of the Sermon on the Mount not the most important of all the teachings - yet Luke, Mark, and John make now issue of it? Or the conflicts of testimony of the passion week between them also show the same ones testifying against the Hebrew Matthew. Jerome said he read - but can we open up the translation of the Hebrew Matthew from George Howard, via Shem Tob and find this quote? Sorry, but I must conclude all those beyond 200 CE to be endorsing and promoting lies/falsehoods/myths.
Onediscipletoanother "Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers?"
Doctor Tabor, May I ask which ancient languages you are proficient in? Thanks.
The words Synagogue and Ecclesia are English transliterations from the Hebrew and Greek. Both words mean "assembly."
James should not have given a judgment that it was alright not to be circumcised, because it makes the effort to join the covenant fruitless. But it should be understood and done by those of competent adult mind, who can choose this ritual for themselves, and it does not need to be done to children and others who do not have or make that covenant.
Jesus always said, let those who receive it receive it. In other words, some Priests become Eunuchs, some don't. Some suffer more to christ some don't. but to each his own and judge not. Same goes for Sabbath, and Kosher food. not drinking blood was a wild rule though, crazy times. lol Jesus did say you can eat it in animals though. All Catholics, Orthodox, and Ethiopians get circumcised as far as I know and they are the vast majority of Christians around the world.
@@cooloutac James could have reiterated that rather than saying it was a judgment that it was not necessary. For if one remains bound to flesh then it is what it is.
@whig01 he made it official as head of church.
@@whig01 I guess circumcision was a big deal. I'm a circumcised Christian.
@@cooloutac It's a very big deal. When Saul was rebuked, it's hard for you to kick against the pricks, it was noting the continuation of Og's war against the Jews. Remember also Saul was Idumean, an Edomite, from Esau.
James are you familiar with the research by Scholar by the name of James David Audlin? He is currently writing a 10 or 12 Volume Commentary on the Book of John. On his website and facebook he is saying as a language expert he has been intensely studying the Palestinian Lectionaries in Aramaic. He says the Gospel of John actually says in Gallilean Aramaic that the 2 Mary’s were forced (tied) on posts next to Jesus by the Romans and made to watch their loved one die….. His work is extensive and he has been on youtube in discussion and he has written several books and papers.
How can an average receive the hand outs to this lecture?
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Sorry one more food for thought, as he had mentioned Genesis 9 and James, etc. I’m really curious of Jesus and James understanding of Genesis 9. When I was young I was a hand on a fishing boat in Cook Inlet. An overheard comment stick with me , as there was another fishing boat who cut the gills and bled the fish. Another hand told me they get a higher price per pound and flesh tastes better, but it’s extra work. Could this be related? Someone should have this convo with master Tabor
Pretty sure that meant not eating something is alive andThe Jews took that to a whole nother level by draining blood. I mean even up to when James gave his judgement against drinking blood. That was still a common custom. and I mean literally blood in a cup as rituals. Jesus argued with the Pharisees about washing hands, and said the only defiled food is what comes out the stomach. To me that says it all right there. Peter tells of the Dream he Had when James made the Judgment, about how God showed him all sorts of animals and creatures and told Peter to eat. And Peter said he never ate anything unclean, and God says dont' call what God has made unclean.
Here’s some more food for thought I suppose along these lines. Master Tabor also mentioned the blood draining as a way of honoring the animal like the Native American traditions as he mentioned. Well also some Native American traditions say thank you for your life, in the next life you can take my life. This to me would be in line with the life for a life , and the reckoning, in Genesis 9. (Not so much that it is allowed but that there will be a penalty for it) otherwise I think why would God originally have said , Genesis 1, I give you seed bearing plants for food.
This makes sense scientifically, there’s no difference between humans and animals , both have same type of spirit in a locomotive body. Why kill another of the same animal kind when you don’t have too.
This is related to Peters vision of God telling him to kill animals, as you mentioned. This is also how adherents of religions are the cause of atheists because of things like that. What that says to reasonable people is that God can’t make up his mind, he goes through all this trouble to speak to the prophets about the Torah to then turn around and say you can ignore it. Acts of the apostles appears to be propaganda.
The lifeblood thing just seems too made up and dogmatic ; there are tribes today who drink cows milk and cows blood but still don’t kill the animal. They drink the ‘lifeblood’ but the animal still has life. Like how humans give blood to help another human , both still have life.
But better yet the mundari tribe (aka the only true cowboys left) seem to exist just fine only drinking and culturing cows milk, without any flesh eating or blood drinking. That would seem to be in line with genesis 1 , and acknowledgement of the ideal place consisting of “milk and honey” without the reactions from eating and disembodying animals.
I think observing things scientifically is important , to distinguish natures laws from human laws.
@@BilboBass barbarians and pagans, plus the indians, literally thought they were eating the animals soul and gaining power from it, by eating the heart or Drinking blood was literally still a thing even in the Apostles time.
So are Stephen and James the Just whom be the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11?
Paul was supported by Marcion. Marcion was a gnostic. Not sure who is right. Also not sure if it's more important to practice a religion about Jesus (Pauline) or a religion of Jesus (what Jesus actually taught).
The ones not named whom we know the name of, have the same name as someone else present.
How does Yaaqov (Jacob) become pronounced as James? And how does Yahya become pronounced as John? (Just some things that always puzzled me.)
Joshua to John 🎉
46:15 Could this be Jesus handing over leadership to James? If so, I would assume this was not historical, but added later to reinforce James' authority. Is Jesus referring to James as "the son of Adam"?
Hi and thanks. I am Greek. On reading the interlinear you notice xristos mother was only a surrogate to give birth to a son of god. Women gave birth to sons of hod in noahs time. Mary had other children. I've read none of his family were following after him. He assigns Peter the rock to look after his mother who was a vurgin until his birth. The 12 disciples are significant characters. Petra is rock he is stable and strong. His brothers were not of his dna as isous tou navi; the full name of our master/kirios translates as joshua or iasua. The church hijacked the scriptures the j is latin and you must touch nothing unclean of papal rome. Mary had other children. Magdalena loved xristos and knew he was a saviour and all who call on his name will be saved. There is no tetragrammaton in a Greek text so if translations put a name of god they are adding to the text, as it has been corrupted.
Firstly, Mary did NOT have other children, which is why Christ gave her to the care of St. John the theologian...NOT St. Peter.
Paul the great deceiver. Never met or heard joshua. james was written out because he maintained the law. joshua didnt want to start christianity, not his purpose but to maintain the law
Written out? When, exactly? By whom?
Not by 'early' Christians, that is for sure. The minor miracle of a little text traditionally ascribed to him (later listed as part of 'all scripture') is not the key to his position among the reverred Christian saints, popular devotion was.
In short, tradition - both local custom and general recollection - more than Sacred Tradition (Magisterium, Testament, text and word, etc) preserved (and magnified) James, a Son of Thunder, as a witness worthy of continued honour, Eusebius, Church History 2, 9.2-3, cf the devotional Passion (a drama) and the Acts of James (a novella), etc.
Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek.
God bless. ;o)
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Enjoyed the analysis.
Speaking of looking at things through a different lens, having recently read up on DNA analysis of the genetic distance to Israelite and Canaanite genomes of various modern Levantine peoples, doesn't it strike you as ironic that Palestinian Muslims are much more closely related to Israelites/Judeans (including Jesus and the 1st century Christians) than most of the hardcore Zionists who are essentially white Europeans?
In fact, since Ashkenazi Jews have a considerable amount of Italian DNA, there isn't much difference between the Romans ethnically cleansing the Judeans as recorded by Josephus and the modern Italian "Jews" ethnically cleansing the native Palestinians who are very closely related to those Judeans.
let me try myself , 1. Peter , 2, Andrew, 3. Barnabas, 4.Judas, 5, Mathew 6. Ethaddeus, 7, Bartholomew . 8John 9, Philips10. James 11,James 12. Judas Iscariot. Jesus was fasting for 40 days then chosed these names.I wonder why Barnabas not in the list.,
House of prayer for all people, just as it is now under Islam. No way the zionist are going to start sacrificing and doing pagan rituals
There’s more to this topic than this video gets into. “Jesus’ Biological Father was Joseph: According to the New Testament” by DS WAGGONER will floor you
James is writen between the muder of Steven and the separation of the Jews and the Church. He still says Synagog and Church interchangably. He refferences the Gospel of Matthew all the time. Teaches the same things as Jesus’ teachings. And in fact, he says « Has God not chosen the poor to be rich in faith? » if he says it that way, it must be after God affirmed it’s so, so, Matthew was writen before James, so does the Didache. And James and the Didache do not say Jews are behaving such and such a way, it only talks about them in bad of their mistake. It calls them the Hipocrits. So it indicates that all of this was writen in Israel amung the church locally primitive and as it was begun.
izaz manu was crusified in year 70. paul saved him, and he survived
Thomas (meaning twin) the Doubter. May mean doubleminded, i.e. split-minded. Perhaps.
All the apostles were young boys teenage & under so why keep portraiting them as older men with beards
not..Peter was about 40 when meet Jesus
How would James be obediently keeping the law, if he is not eating meat (the Passover Lamb) during Passover? The idea that either James or Jesus who ate fish, were 'vegetarians' does not sit well with scripture or theology!
James the journal-keeper
Do you mean James of Yaaqov or James or Yaaqov?
Yeah, we should expect Tabor to know there are 2 of them , maior and minor,
he seems not separating them or maybe the Lesser is such a whimp that
Tabor is even not considering him mention-worthy.
Yakov means jacob,not james.
Preach!
@@DJack116 I don't quite know so much about that. You would perhaps suffer apoplexy if you saw my other comments in other videos.
Were the mother and sisters of Jesus (and the other women disciples) present at the final Passover (Last Supper); sitting by themselves due to conforming to the Levitical Laws (contamination due to menstruation)?
If not then it was Mary in his arms and not James and the Gospel of John is really Mary's. Lol. According to the gnostics the Apostles said Mary was his favorite. And because he was mentioned to have kissed her on the lips many believe that to be Jesus's wife but I think back then even men kissed on the lips so that doesn't prove anything. And those codexes are considered heresies. But there is prolly some truth there.
The Last Supper was not a Passover meal. It in no way resembles one, and took place on the evening of Wednesday preceding the first day of Passover, which was Friday (beginning at dusk on Thursday) in AD 30.
Jesus was arrested in the small hours of Thursday morning, examined by Caiaphas around dawn (hence the cock crowing), tried by Herod, crucified, and died (unexpectedly quickly) on Thursday afternoon, hence the need to get him hurridly into any available tomb before sundown when Passover started.
Professor Tabor has detailed all this in other talks on this channel.
@terryhunt2659 who cares it was Passover for them. Lol
The reason the people in Yahusha's hometown were amazed at him is because they knew what he was like before he repented. It's also the reason why they scorned him.
To me the juxtaposition of Jesus as man and Christ as God is what forms the dichotomy of the Jamesian view and the Pauline view.
James calls Jesus the Lord. He’s his brother and yet calls himself Servant of, and calls him the Lord Jesus.
@@isaakleillhikar8311 But "Lord" in this context doesn't imply divinity. It means something closer to "Master" which Jesus was, as the leader of the movement.
Is the gospel supernatural or not?😊
The beloved was Judah, the son of Jesus. Jesus is talking to Mary Magdalene, telling his son Judah to behold his mother.
Jesus is not talking to his mother.
That's my hypothesis. ❤
Beloved disciple would surely be Mary Magdalene?
John the Baptist and his brother James were the Sons of Thunder. Even possible that Peter was included but its difficult to tell by the sentence structure.