Emily May Wow! Always a treat to hear from relatives of the contestants! Do you remember her talking at all about what her experience being on the show was like?
Thank you for the kind comments. I do have some stories from her about the filming of that episode. She was in the green room with Joan Fontaine. I will talk to her and get the details and share here. I just figured out how to reply to these comments. Duh. :-) Emily
Emily May That would be wonderful, Emily! I know I'm not the only WML fan who would love to hear whatever memories your mom has to share. Recently the daughter of another contestant shared some of her mom's memories of being on the show, and the folks in our Facebook group for WML were just as excited as I was. :) If you're on Facebook and have any interest in checking out the group, we'd love to see you there, but if not, I look forward to any further comments you can add here. It's pretty rare to hear from relatives of contestants-- and I've yet to ever hear from one of the actual contestants directly! Here's a link to the Facebook group if you're interested: facebook.com/groups/728471287199862/
Hi Emily, I'm the daughter referred to above. I joined the Facebook group and they are such a nice, fun group of respectful folk! Your mom is gorgeous! The atmosphere on your mom's episode is such a contrast from the one my mom was on which was the first episode after the death of Dorothy Kilgallen. Was there a meet and greet after the episode?
Joan was an amazingly intelligent person: a licensed Aviator, Cordon Bleu chef and professional interior decorator. IF you ever get the chance, watch her in "Ivy": very underated film
You all probably dont give a shit but does anybody know a trick to get back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid forgot the login password. I appreciate any tricks you can offer me!
@Royal Trevor i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Don't feel bad Time Lord, it's much better then the crap we put on modern American TV as well. As a matter of fact I enjoy watching the older shows on BBC America myself.
I stopped watching television five years ago. While there are a few things I miss (college sports, Discovery and History channels and similar), the vast majority of programming was too vulgar, too violent or too vapid to tolerate any longer. Having marvelous programs such as WML to watch is a delight!
I love Joan Fontaine.I seen her in Rebbeca and I thought her acting and english accent were very good.Now I find out she's got a great sense of humour as well.Also she's very beautiful.I know she passed away when she was in her late 90's too..
I've been watching these addictively ......the one thing I really regret is that the show was only 30 min long......would of been extremely cool if the stars and panel conversed longer
+Johan Bengtsson I think the difference is that when Steve makes that comment it comes off as charming and complementary;if Hal Block had delivered the same line,it would have seemed,nothing but,lecherous.
John mentions another contestant at the end, saying he's sorry we didn't have a chance to get to him tonight. I don't think I've ever heard that before.
What happend to him? Was he asked to come back another time? Depends on if he was a new yorker or not I guess. Did he get the money anyhow? There must have been lots of people never had the time being the last contestant.
Johan Bengtsson "There must have been lots of people never had the time being the last contestant"...I'll bet, I just never heard John refer to them before.
Joe Postove *From TV.com:* (www.tv.com/shows/whats-my-line/episode-190-94458/) "MYSTERY IN 2005: In an unusual move, John stated that there was no time for the next scheduled guest and named him. It sounded like John said Mr. Bernaise Johnson or perhaps Mr. Bernays Johnson. Maybe it was even Bern "Ace" Johnson - the spelling is unknown. - Suzanne (2005) MYSTERY SOLVED IN 2010: I believe that the contestant who wasn't able to appear on this episode of the show was Mr. Bernays Johnson, an inventor. He was a neighbor of my mother's as I was growing up in Wayne, New Jersey. If you Google his name, you will find links to some of his inventions. - SusanDeYoungB (2010)" . The comment from John is additionally strange, because I don't think they *ever* had more than 4 guests/contestants on one episode.
Arthur Godfrey did Teterboro Tower on the Jack Paar Show one night - that is he lipsynched the record, with Paar playing the part of the controller. This must have been about 1963. Then my dad carried me off to bed, singing the song as Tweeterbird Tower.
Convenient that Bennett did his lecture tour in the southwest in the dead of winter. Typically he went somewhere warm for weeks in Januarys and Februarys. Smart fellow that Bennett.
+soulierinvestments Unfortunately, John may have hurt Bennett's ability to deduct all the travel expenses as business expenses by disclosing that Bennett would be doing a lot of vacationing on the trip.
@@loissimmons6558 Spoken like a true fellow tax person. I believe, though, that under the Internal Revenue Code of 1939, Bennett would have been ok if there was any business purpose for his trips. Even under the 1954 Code, the standard for business deductions was quite loose until the reforms of the 1980s.
@@mikejschin I confess that there are some details I don't know about as far as income taxes. I do know that the due date used to be March 15, not April 15 (which presumably it will revert to next year). There was an episode of "The Honeymooners" involving Ralph's taxes and his tax booklet shows the March due date. I also know that income taxes were not withheld from wages until WWII. And I had an elderly client show me his first tax return from the late 40's. The entire return fit on a 3½" x 5½" piece of paper (front and back). But as far as the details on what could and could not be deducted, I don't know a lot. I do know that at some point the IRS cracked down on vacations disguised as business trips. But whether that meant the rules had to be rewritten or simply enforced better, I didn't know. I was born in 1952, so I didn't have any experience with the 1939 Code. I probably filed my first return under the the 1954 Code when I had my first summer job and some taxes were withheld in 1969. And I didn't start preparing tax returns for a fee until after the 1982 TEFRA and 1986 TRA. (I came in when the ability to deduct most passive losses was being phased out.)
@@loissimmons6558 I'm of 1951 vintage myself. My formal tax education consists of an LL.M. in Taxation from George Washington University in 1988. From then until my retirement in 2015, my career was spent on international tax planning for corporations. Any knowledge I have of individual filing, including deductions, was gained incidentally. As a general rule, you know much more about that end of the tax field than I do. I might have only a bit more useless historical knowledge in that area.
I would appreciate input on this “vacation” tax deduction question stemming from Barbarians at the Gate, a wonderful movie about the LBO of Phillip Morris. While submitting sealed bids against others the principals of KKR discuss whether to take their annual ski trip. They say they are reluctant to go, but decide they better go because if they stay in town over the holidays it will signal their strong interest and raise the price of the acquisition. Therefore they spend thousands on a trip which has the effect of saving billions on the price. The question is whether this fun trip, when taken for the purpose of completing an acquisition, is deductible.
Joan Fontaine remained in California until her death. Her sister Olivia, after retiring from the movie business, went to Paris, France where she still lives. Olivia DeHavilland kept the family name; Joan had to legally change her surname so as not to be confused with her sister. Yet we had 3 Gabor Sister's, so I don't see a problem.
Joan. Olivia. Very pretty. Great talents. Longest standing sibling animosity in history. 90 years plus. Empires have been known to rise and fall in 90 years plus. . Must have taken a lot of energy to keep that feud up and running.
@@MrYfrank14 Boy, after reading that article I have to say: Joan was one mean person. She really knew how to hurt others deeply. If it started as sibling rivalry the parents, aka mother is to be blamed. Mostly an absent or absent minded parent who is giving too little attention to the children is at the core of the problem.
Bennet Cerf, though not movie star handsome, was SO charming and attractive. I watched this show in my childhood and saw him as oldish. Now, I'm 72, and I see a romantically attractive guy. Same with John Daly. How time and experience changes our perceptions! Isn't it delicious?
+Ginny Lorenz Don't I know it! I can remember when someone 40 years old looked old to me. And Jack Benny forever claiming that he was 39 reinforced that idea that 40 was old. And then the people in my generation were saying to never trust anyone over 30. Now I'm 64. Most of the people who advised not trusting anyone over 30 have children over age 30. I think of a 40 year old as a kid. And someone old enough to collect social security is often looking mighty attractive now. Of course, I tell myself that it's because we are aging more slowly now! :-)
Dear Lois, Thanks for the fun reply. I'm 74 now, and feeling more than ever that I have so much to learn and so much growing up to do. I'm working on it. Inside, I'm still just a girl. Best wishes to you from San Diego, CA. p.s. Aren't the clothing, manners and kindness charming on "What's My Line?"
+Ginny Lorenz And best wishes to you from the New York City Metropolitan Area. I must say that one usually doesn't see the fleur-de-lis in connection with San Diego. If you change the "7" to a "6" in the age, everything you wrote after "fun reply" up to "Best wishes" describes me to a T. As I sometimes put it, I'm 64 going on 22. In answer to your PS, most of the outfits of the women who were either on the panel or the mystery guests are to die for. I have an event to go to next weekend. I think I need to go shopping for a gown! (Many of the female non-celebrity challengers have attractive outfits, too, but not often as elegant as the female celebrities.) In general, what you are talking about is that for the most part, the people appearing on WML, especially the panel members and the moderator, had class. And while the way men and women dealt with each other was quite different from what it is now, Arlene and Dorothy present positive role models of women who enjoy being feminine, but also are proud to be intelligent, witty and charming women of accomplishment. Now and then, however, something will be said that reminds you that this was a time when there were still some ignorant prejudices in American society. As a child of the 50's and early 60's, for me they were the good old days, even though part of a family of modest means. But I know there are those who can point to things that were happening at that time that hopefully we will never see again in the U.S.
+gcjerryusc I have had many delightfully warm and friendly Southern friends and acquaintances over the years. I think a Southern accent is most charming and I have heard it from Southerners of different races. I also find a Southern accent to be very infectious, and I have a good ear for accents and mimicry to start with. One reason that Vivien Leigh was able to produce a fairly authentic Southern accent in "Gone With the Wind" is that linguists will tell you that the Southern accent has experienced less change from native English-Scots-Irish accents than in other parts of the U.S. I also find the accents from the West Indies and British Caribbean regions to be charming. It's quite a contrast to how we talk if we are native to Noo Yawk, Lawn Guyland or Noo Joisey. As far as how I would find you, ah'm a wonderin' if'n ah should ask y'all for your picture, cause ah might have ta have mah smellin' salts handy, 'cos I might plumb get the vapors and have one o' mah spells. :-)
It's also equally sad that the next episode that aired doesn't exit anymore. Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis were mystery guests, and hilarity ensued all throughout, like no other episode of WML!
I just found out that the Martin & Lewis episode aired on 1/24/1954. That happens to be the day I was born. I've seen a video of the Martin & Lewis segment, but it's too bad the rest of the episode is lost. I've watched that 1975 show on TH-cam. IMO, it wasn't very good.
Ms. Fontaine and Ms. DeHeHavilland had such a 'falling out' that is lasted from the 1945 Academy Awards when each was nominated, and when, after Ms. Fontaine won, she thanked somebody else upon returning to her table. Ms. DeHavilland was furious. So much so that Olivia DeHaviiland refused to appear in any movie; and Joan Fontaine refused to appear in any movie with Olivia DeHavilland.
Just started watching these episodes in order of air date a couple of weeks ago. I'm determined to get through them all. I may lose my sanity doing so.
Joan de Beauvoir de Havilland, otherwise known as Joan Fontaine died last December 15th (2013) at the age of 96. Her sister Olivia de Havilland, is STILL ALIVE at the age of 98! She will be 99 on July 1, 2015.
Wow! Emily May, your own mother! Fun to see her now, she was lovely. And the worm man must've been near 7 feet tall, he towered over Daly! And nice to see Joan Fontaine, though, good grief - her hair and "outfit" were Not becoming! 😯 The usual fun on this show :))
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And another thing equally sad: The only time Fontaine was a guest panelist in 1966 is lost forever (also had Dinah Shore as a mystery guest). Both episodes were lost forever, all because of the assembling of a 25th Anniversary Special, that aired only one time late at night, and didn't really get high ratings anyways.
Vahan Nisanian i don't understand why they had to cannibalize these shows to get the segments they needed. Why couldn't they just copy what they needed using a video system and leave the whole reel of film in tact and put it back in the vault. Now i feel like i should be on the lookout for any rare lost episodes.
As Bennet Cerf notes (10:45), Arthur Godfrey "buzzed" the Teterboro Tower in New Jersey 10 days before this broadcast aired; although he felt that the act itself was uncalled for, an experienced pilot said that the reason behind the protest was sound: news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19540118&id=uCEhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3GQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2527,3277199 . As a result of his bad temper, Godfrey's flying license was suspended for six months. The entertainer, not missing a beat, seized the opportunity to record a silly ditty honoring his dubious behavior Arthur Godfrey - Teterboro Tower .
romeman01 Thanks for putting Bennett's comment into context. Interesting story and funny song. I wonder if the airport ever changed their landing policy.
On that fateful day, Godfrey was in such a hurry to take off that he forgot that he had pledged back in 1952 to "learn to be a slow poke, too" 1952 HITS ARCHIVE: Slow Poke - Arthur Godfrey . The conductor is Godfrey's longtime musical director Archie Bleyer, who later, as owner of Cadence Records, put out the fastest-selling album in US history at that point, The First Family, with Vaughn Meader parodying JFK (What's My Line? - Vaughn Meader; Martin Gabel [panel] (Dec 30, 1962) INCOMPLETE).
He was evidently protesting the dangerous conditions to planes created by the closing of a certain runway, due to complaints from the nearby community of Hasbrouck Heights. Their complaint was not only about noise issues but danger to their town. In the similar situation of Elizabeth, NJ & Newark airport there had been 3 airplane crashes over a period of 60 days in 1951-52! [Recently recalled in Judy Blume's book: In the Unlikely Event]. At this time there were, I think, ~12 crashes a year in the US.
Miss Fontaine was only 36 when she appeared on WML. She and her sister both looked older than their ages due to conservative dress style and rather matronly hair/appearance.
As Bennett Cerf revealed in the WML episode broadcast on November 27, 1966, his wife was often told the name of the mystery guest in advance. We are expected to believe that Mrs. Cerf only slipped up once, but if that is true, why would she be told in the first place? Notice that, on this show, Bennett is the one who asked the question about place of birth, which is what led the others to come to the answer.
Bennett revealed that his wife informed him in one episode, for logistical reasons that went awry. He disclosed that and disqualified himself. He never said, and it is not true, that he knew the identity on any occasion in which he did not disqualify himself.
Bennett was following on a statement by John Daly, who said "Neither" north nor south about the mystery guest's birthplace. Bennett verified that the mystery guest was neither born in the north nor the south and then asked if she had been born outside of the United States. There was no inside knowledge necessary to ask that question. His next question was "Were you born on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean." The answer was no.
I remember one particular episode where Bennet's son was one of the guests that is not the celebrity mystery guest but of course the panel was blindfolded because of familiarity, and Bennett very regretfully had to disqualify himself because someone played a dirty trick on him (I think those were close to, if not his exact words) and revealed to him prior to the show who the would be the guest who would require the panel to be blindfolded. I wonder if that was his wife Phyliss who told him
"Godfrey buzzed. " Arthur Godfrey, who was then huge in TV, but not well-remembered now. This was at the start of his controversial egomaniac period. Four months earlier, he fired his show's boy singer Julius laRosa on live radio -- a huge mistake from any PR angle. Then in early January 1954, he flew rather too low over a Jersey airport and made a bunch of people hopping mad. From this point, he did such things as dismissing his staff in whole sale lots and feuding with Dorothy and other columnists. "Liar!" or words to that effect he said about Dorothy.
Dorothy often uses the word "weenie" (?) (or how you would spell it) when she gets a premonition about the right line. What kind of word is that? Has she invented it or is it slang? I thought weenie was a hot dog.
WML used "weenie" as slang for sudden inspiration for years, clear into the early 60s. I have shown to my college composition students Arlene's 1958 use of "weenie" the night the chairs of the political parties visit the program as an example of slang. It always got a huge laugh. Frankly, I have never heard "weenie" in that context used anywhere else -- but I am in no position as a 21st century Westerner to have heard it used in the eastern 50s pop kulchur.
What's My Line? "MacGuffin" as I recall was what Hitchcock used to call his plot drivers the plots of which were not actually important to the overall movie plot. Wait --
David Evans Very interesting. You could be onto something that the rest of us were not aware of. Btw, would you by any chance be related to the Dave Evans who was a screenwriter for "The Monkees" and other TV shows in the 1960s and 70s?
Funny that Joan Fontaine winced on being asked if she had a sister in show business, since she and her sister are said to have been, more or less, lifelong enemies, though I'm sure she didn't wince for that reason; rather because she knew Dorothy had nailed her identity.
I guess with the confusion over two-legged animals, that chicken and turkey weren't particularly familiar meats to the panel... Also, salami made from "cattle"? It's traditionally a *pork* sausage, not made with beef.
Contrary to expectations and usual practice, CD didn’t flip any supplementary cards in the case of the first contestant who just carried away 10$ after yielding so much fun and grace. 🤔🔟
The lingerie lady had difficulty in answering questions about what she should know about in her job ? I guess she was nervous and confused. Who walks outdoors dressed like that ? On stage I suppose to model ? A very likable attractive lady.
Just writing a short story at the moment which is a tribute to Alfred Hitchcock in which I call my lead female Rebecca, then I just happen by chance to hit on this episode featuring Joan Fontaine! Spooky! KAN 5.20 UK
In regard to the sisters eternal feud.1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
No one is perfect, in regard to abiding by every verse in the bible. Olivia de Havilland has been a devout Episcopalian for decades, and spent part of her 104th birthday at her local church in Paris. I don't know if Joan Fontaine followed any particular religion.
At 24:31, Bennett said, “bigger than two breadboxes?” This was the 34th usage and Bennett’s first time. At 13:57, Dorothy said, “I just had a weenie.” This was the 13th usage. Steve said “good night, boys” for the 14th time. Joan Fontaine was the 34th foreign born MG. Bennett announced his replacement for the coming week. Did he steal John’s thunder?
When Bennett Cerf asked about the four-legged animal, he was trying to rule out chicken - a two-legged animal of course. The other panel members laughed about this, but he was right to ask. What is salami made from? I've eaten it but don't know.
Most salami is made from pork, and there are many variations using different cuts of the meat prepared different ways. A few recipes call for veal mixed in as well. Beef is used in kosher and halal salami; I've heard of experimental recipes using venison and poultry but have never tried them.
Nice to see that at this time they were still pronouncing properly unlike the inexplicable arrival of the non existent America acccent calling it LINGERIÉ pronounced lingeray!
John mixed up the Atlantic and the South Pacific. He was about to object to Joan when she answered no if she was born across the Atlantic but after a whispering conference he corrected himself. 19:30
Johan Bengtsson I thought maybe he was unsure about where she was born. Or, yes it is across the Atlantic, if you you're going the looooooooooooong way!
Joe Postove Johan Bengtsson I also thought he probably did not know where she was born and had assumed it was somewhere in Europe. I laughed at the "looooooooooooong way!" idea, though. :-)
She was born to an English family, closely related to the DeHavillands of aircraft fame, so it wasn't hard to assume she was born in England, however erroneously.
Lois Simmons When I was a teenager i used to have dance contests for some of the local beauties. They were friends of my sister and when she went to sleep, whoever was sleeping over would dance for Joe! YOWSAH!
Joe Postove This would either mean: a) You were the kind of brother they wanted to tease and get you all hot and bothered. Then they would retreat to the sanctuary of your sister's room and leave you, as they say in French, to your own devices; b) Your sister had more girlfriends than most of the girls in her class because you were the hot brother they all wanted to get close to, hoping you'd pick them to be your girl; c) You were on your way to becoming a Chuck Barris or a Howard Stern until fate intervened and you decided to use your powers for good rather than evil. Probably best not to answer that, Joe. Any answer you give would either be bragging or humiliating. And now excuse me while I try to get the image of my brother doing something like that out of my head. :-O
@@jimgeiser1570 Miss Olivia de Havilland was born July 1, 1916; she celebrated her 104th birthday earlier this month. Photographs were published of her at her local church, and she looked great,
In a 1978 interview, Fontaine said of the sibling rivalry, "I married first, won the Oscar before Olivia did, and if I die first, she'll undoubtedly be livid because I beat her to it!
It is to bad there was bad blood between sisters but I don't think it is not that uncommon, regrettable but not uncommon. I assume it was from rivalry and jealousy by one or both. The parents should of helped stop it is possible but it sounds like the mother encouraged it. I don't know. They apparently did not hate each other because they recommended each other for roles neither one of them could play for one reason or the other. They both were talented, beautiful and nice ladies. We wish them both well. RIP Olivia and Joan. The feud is over now I hope. Dead is the great equalizer.
I like them both. Olivia de Havilland was great as Maid Marian in "The Adventures of Robin Hood", for example, while I always remember Joan Fontaine from "Rebecca".
I think Olivia de Havilland was a great actress and not a bit less classy than Joan Fontaine. That said, I have nothing negative to say about either of them. I note it was Joan Fontaine who estranged herself from her older sister. Both of them, by the way, won Best Actress Oscars. They're the only sisters ever to have done that. I note that if you look at a list of award nominations, Olivia de Havilland had considerably more of them than Joan Fontaine, so, based on that, I don't think I could rightly say Joan Fontaine was the stronger actor of the two. I do note that I thoroughly enjoyed Joan Fontaine in the 1939 film _The Women_, based on Claire Boothe's Broadway comedy -- she was all of 21 or 22 when the film was made. De Havilland was of similar age when she starred in the 1938 film _Robin Hood_, also one of my favorites. I think the first movie I saw with Joan Fontaine was the 1943 version of _Jane Eyre_ (she played teh title role) with Orson Welles in the male lead role as Rochester. I note that Olivia de Havilland used her real name. Joan Fontaine adopted "Fontaine", which was her mother's surname. Their parents were English and both actresses were born in Tokyo, Japan.
+ToddSF 94109 According to what I've read, a lot of the sibling rivalry and Joan's estrangement was based on their mother greatly favoring Olivia over Joan and Olivia using that situation to lord it over Joan when they were growing up together. The extent of the family dysfunction was so extreme that their mother forbade Joan from using the last name of de Havilland professionally. Adding further to the family soap opera, when the mother came back to the U.S. with the girls, their father quickly returned to Japan, divorced their mother and married their Japanese housekeeper.
Someone said they had different fathers. I never knew that. Seemed more like they may have had different mothers. Always thought Joan was prettier but both were loaded with class and good actresses.
Favoring children can interfere with the bonding of siblings. Not all the time but it can set up the propensity for it depending on the dynamics in the home. Never a good thing for a parent to practice.
It certainly would help narrow it down. There were only a handful of actresses at the time who were born in the Orient (which was what was asked and which narrowed it down more than just Asia) and who had a sister who was also an actress. Any time they can narrow down the possibilities to a group with a tiny population, they are home free. Quite often you will hear Steve Allen say (after he has narrowed down the possibilities), "the only one I can think of is ..." Or he would call it a "stab in the dark", but it was often correct (sometimes to John Daly's amazement).
Lois Simmons I just didn't realize it was such a well-known fact that she was born in Tokyo that it helped narrow it down to her. Even John didn't seem to know she was born there. Though maybe Dorothy knew from being a journalist
I thought it was well known that Joan and Olivia were born in Japan to British parents; their father was a banker working there. Maybe less well known is that the parents separated when the girls were very young, and mother and daughters settled in Saratoga, California, in the southern San Francisco bay area not far from where I live, for most of their school years. So Joan's real Anglo-American accent is authentic, unlike her "Southern" imitation. This may help explain why she disclaimed being a Northerner, too.
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Janet May who was the guest on Whats My Line from minute 2 thru 10 is my mom. What a blast from the past. I wasn't even born yet.
Emily May Wow! Always a treat to hear from relatives of the contestants! Do you remember her talking at all about what her experience being on the show was like?
+Emily May What a fun and charming guest she was!
Thank you for the kind comments. I do have some stories from her about the filming of that episode. She was in the green room with Joan Fontaine. I will talk to her and get the details and share here. I just figured out how to reply to these comments. Duh. :-)
Emily
Emily May That would be wonderful, Emily! I know I'm not the only WML fan who would love to hear whatever memories your mom has to share. Recently the daughter of another contestant shared some of her mom's memories of being on the show, and the folks in our Facebook group for WML were just as excited as I was. :) If you're on Facebook and have any interest in checking out the group, we'd love to see you there, but if not, I look forward to any further comments you can add here. It's pretty rare to hear from relatives of contestants-- and I've yet to ever hear from one of the actual contestants directly!
Here's a link to the Facebook group if you're interested:
facebook.com/groups/728471287199862/
Hi Emily, I'm the daughter referred to above. I joined the Facebook group and they are such a nice, fun group of respectful folk! Your mom is gorgeous! The atmosphere on your mom's episode is such a contrast from the one my mom was on which was the first episode after the death of Dorothy Kilgallen. Was there a meet and greet after the episode?
I just love the way John says _"Yayess."_ I never thought a show that began 70 years ago would be my favorite TV show.
been sitting here watching all of these in rapid succession tonight hahahahaha
I adore Joan she's so fun and what a joy to watch
Even her handwriting is great 😂
It's wonderful seeing how much fun John Daly has. Love his laughter.
yes. but a lot of pointless time wasting. four minutes to go and walks in front of the panel, quite silly
Joan Fontaine shines with a sense of humour and beauty. A very good actress, not only in " Rebecca".
Joan was an amazingly intelligent person: a licensed Aviator, Cordon Bleu chef and professional interior decorator. IF you ever get the chance, watch her in "Ivy": very underated film
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I love Steve Allen's puzzled looks. Truly priceless!
A lovely man.
Omg I love this show so so much, been binging these again lately, I love how funny they are while still being classy! Thank you for posting these! 😸😸
The best
Joan is a delight to watch. So full of energy and good humor.
I watch these every night now in the UK. Much better than what's on our televisions today.
What do you need TV for when you can stream all of the amazingness on youtube on your TV?
Don't feel bad Time Lord, it's much better then the crap we put on modern American TV as well. As a matter of fact I enjoy watching the older shows on BBC America myself.
I stopped watching television five years ago. While there are a few things I miss (college sports, Discovery and History channels and similar), the vast majority of programming was too vulgar, too violent or too vapid to tolerate any longer. Having marvelous programs such as WML to watch is a delight!
I know what you mean! I stopped watching TV before you did for the same reason! But I don't miss it, especially today's programming!
so do i, although i no longer live in my home town . estbourne. real class and wit . cheers from Spain
I love Joan Fontaine.I seen her in Rebbeca and I thought her acting and english accent were very good.Now I find out she's got a great sense of humour as well.Also she's very beautiful.I know she passed away when she was in her late 90's too..
Rebecca is one of my favorite films.
I mean, both of her parents were British, right? So, presumably, she grew up with an English accent.
She was born in Japan , British parents, educated in UK. Both sister spoke beautiful accentless English.
She grew up in America, and with her mom and stepfather.@@llcooljay520
No. She grew up in California!@@anairenemartinez165
Thank you to this Chanel for being a rare place on TH-cam that is wholesome and encouraging.
Arlene seemed to be coming into her mature beauty here. She was 46 and beautiful!
Amazing! Watching this show you can easily see why this is the best light TV programme EVER!
KAN 5.20 UK
Love Joan Fontaine! Beautiful, talented, intelligent, and classy.
I like Joan Fontaine and she's comical too.Great actress!
Just learned of Mrs. May’s death. Condolences to her family and friends.
Oh no I just tried googling her.
Steve Allen was a very funny man.
I've been watching these addictively ......the one thing I really regret is that the show was only 30 min long......would of been extremely cool if the stars and panel conversed longer
Hilarious when the panel got the giggles!
Joan Fontaine was so adorably cute.
Lingerie. Worms. Joan Fontaine. Salami. Where else but on WML can you get that sort of line up? Salami is hysterical.
Mrs. May was a lingerie model! Thank goodness Hal Block was off the show by then!
When Steve Allen says: " I think she's a gym teacher and I wish I were Jim." 3:22 , that could have been Hal Block saying the same.
yup!
The spirit of Block hung on for years.
Joe Postove I liked Hal though.
+Johan Bengtsson I think the difference is that when Steve makes that comment it comes off as charming and complementary;if Hal Block had delivered the same line,it would have seemed,nothing but,lecherous.
Good epi. Loved seeing Dorothy at work.
Joan's father was a banker in Japan at the time of her birth.
"Now guess Zsa Zsa Gabor." LOL Arlene!
She was a beautiful and talented actress. She radiates warmth and good sense of humour too. Delightful.
John mentions another contestant at the end, saying he's sorry we didn't have a chance to get to him tonight. I don't think I've ever heard that before.
What happend to him? Was he asked to come back another time? Depends on if he was a new yorker or not I guess. Did he get the money anyhow? There must have been lots of people never had the time being the last contestant.
Johan Bengtsson "There must have been lots of people never had the time being the last contestant"...I'll bet, I just never heard John refer to them before.
Joe Postove
*From TV.com:* (www.tv.com/shows/whats-my-line/episode-190-94458/)
"MYSTERY IN 2005: In an unusual move, John stated that there was no time for the next scheduled guest and named him. It sounded like John said Mr. Bernaise Johnson or perhaps Mr. Bernays Johnson. Maybe it was even Bern "Ace" Johnson - the spelling is unknown. - Suzanne (2005) MYSTERY SOLVED IN 2010: I believe that the contestant who wasn't able to appear on this episode of the show was Mr. Bernays Johnson, an inventor. He was a neighbor of my mother's as I was growing up in Wayne, New Jersey. If you Google his name, you will find links to some of his inventions. - SusanDeYoungB (2010)" .
The comment from John is additionally strange, because I don't think they *ever* had more than 4 guests/contestants on one episode.
SaveThe TPC I have heard that there is at least one occasion where there this happened. I have not seen it, so I can't verify it.
Dorothy was a clear eyed genius
Arthur Godfrey did Teterboro Tower on the Jack Paar Show one night - that is he lipsynched the record, with Paar playing the part of the controller. This must have been about 1963.
Then my dad carried me off to bed, singing the song as Tweeterbird Tower.
+corner moose A sweet recollection!
Convenient that Bennett did his lecture tour in the southwest in the dead of winter. Typically he went somewhere warm for weeks in Januarys and Februarys. Smart fellow that Bennett.
+soulierinvestments
Unfortunately, John may have hurt Bennett's ability to deduct all the travel expenses as business expenses by disclosing that Bennett would be doing a lot of vacationing on the trip.
@@loissimmons6558 Spoken like a true fellow tax person. I believe, though, that under the Internal Revenue Code of 1939, Bennett would have been ok if there was any business purpose for his trips. Even under the 1954 Code, the standard for business deductions was quite loose until the reforms of the 1980s.
@@mikejschin I confess that there are some details I don't know about as far as income taxes. I do know that the due date used to be March 15, not April 15 (which presumably it will revert to next year). There was an episode of "The Honeymooners" involving Ralph's taxes and his tax booklet shows the March due date.
I also know that income taxes were not withheld from wages until WWII. And I had an elderly client show me his first tax return from the late 40's. The entire return fit on a 3½" x 5½" piece of paper (front and back).
But as far as the details on what could and could not be deducted, I don't know a lot. I do know that at some point the IRS cracked down on vacations disguised as business trips. But whether that meant the rules had to be rewritten or simply enforced better, I didn't know.
I was born in 1952, so I didn't have any experience with the 1939 Code. I probably filed my first return under the the 1954 Code when I had my first summer job and some taxes were withheld in 1969. And I didn't start preparing tax returns for a fee until after the 1982 TEFRA and 1986 TRA. (I came in when the ability to deduct most passive losses was being phased out.)
@@loissimmons6558 I'm of 1951 vintage myself. My formal tax education consists of an LL.M. in Taxation from George Washington University in 1988. From then until my retirement in 2015, my career was spent on international tax planning for corporations. Any knowledge I have of individual filing, including deductions, was gained incidentally. As a general rule, you know much more about that end of the tax field than I do. I might have only a bit more useless historical knowledge in that area.
I would appreciate input on this “vacation” tax deduction question stemming from Barbarians at the Gate, a wonderful movie about the LBO of Phillip Morris. While submitting sealed bids against others the principals of KKR discuss whether to take their annual ski trip. They say they are reluctant to go, but decide they better go because if they stay in town over the holidays it will signal their strong interest and raise the price of the acquisition. Therefore they spend thousands on a trip which has the effect of saving billions on the price. The question is whether this fun trip, when taken for the purpose of completing an acquisition, is deductible.
Olivia de Havilland and Joan Fontaine were both born in Tokyo, Japan to British parents. They have Japanese/British Dual Citizenship. :)
Joan Fontaine remained in California until her death. Her sister Olivia, after retiring from the movie business, went to Paris, France where she still lives. Olivia DeHavilland kept the family name; Joan had to legally change her surname so as not to be confused with her sister. Yet we had 3 Gabor Sister's, so I don't see a problem.
@@jimgeiser1570 I know.
Now I know I've seen WML many many times, I saw the first contestant and immediately expected the "I wish I was Jim" line
I seem to remember at the end of the show, Lady's Evening Weare Provided by Bonwitt Teller.
Joan Fontaine is always a delight.
James B
Seems like a Love.
Joan. Olivia. Very pretty. Great talents. Longest standing sibling animosity in history. 90 years plus. Empires have been known to rise and fall in 90 years plus. . Must have taken a lot of energy to keep that feud up and running.
Not if you just ignore someone and stay away.
Brooke Hanley I have a feeling that Olivia was the ignorer, and Joan kept the feud burning publicly.
Joan Fontaine, still so lovely.
Dorothy got Joan Fontaine but Arlene Francis failed to get her two more times in 1970 and 1973!
Sad how she and her fellow sister/actress, Olivia de Havilland, had a life-long Feud.
A feud that, until Fontaine's death, was never resolved.
Longest standing hostility between siblings in recorded history. 90 plus years. Empires came and went in that period of time.
+soulierinvestments 90+ would make them toddlers when it started?
according to this article, it started when Joan was born.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/joan-fontaine-olivia-de-havilland-666087
They may be pretty but not life-wise.
@@MrYfrank14
Boy, after reading that article I have to say: Joan was one mean person.
She really knew how to hurt others deeply.
If it started as sibling rivalry the parents, aka mother is to be blamed. Mostly an absent or absent minded parent who is giving too little attention to the children is at the core of the problem.
Bennet Cerf, though not movie star handsome, was SO charming and attractive. I watched this show in my childhood and saw him as oldish. Now, I'm 72, and I see a romantically attractive guy. Same with John Daly. How time and experience changes our perceptions! Isn't it delicious?
+Ginny Lorenz
Don't I know it! I can remember when someone 40 years old looked old to me. And Jack Benny forever claiming that he was 39 reinforced that idea that 40 was old. And then the people in my generation were saying to never trust anyone over 30.
Now I'm 64. Most of the people who advised not trusting anyone over 30 have children over age 30. I think of a 40 year old as a kid. And someone old enough to collect social security is often looking mighty attractive now. Of course, I tell myself that it's because we are aging more slowly now! :-)
Dear Lois, Thanks for the fun reply. I'm 74 now, and feeling more than ever that I have so much to learn and so much growing up to do. I'm working on it. Inside, I'm still just a girl. Best wishes to you from San Diego, CA. p.s. Aren't the clothing, manners and kindness charming on "What's My Line?"
+Ginny Lorenz
And best wishes to you from the New York City Metropolitan Area.
I must say that one usually doesn't see the fleur-de-lis in connection with San Diego.
If you change the "7" to a "6" in the age, everything you wrote after "fun reply" up to "Best wishes" describes me to a T. As I sometimes put it, I'm 64 going on 22.
In answer to your PS, most of the outfits of the women who were either on the panel or the mystery guests are to die for. I have an event to go to next weekend. I think I need to go shopping for a gown! (Many of the female non-celebrity challengers have attractive outfits, too, but not often as elegant as the female celebrities.)
In general, what you are talking about is that for the most part, the people appearing on WML, especially the panel members and the moderator, had class. And while the way men and women dealt with each other was quite different from what it is now, Arlene and Dorothy present positive role models of women who enjoy being feminine, but also are proud to be intelligent, witty and charming women of accomplishment.
Now and then, however, something will be said that reminds you that this was a time when there were still some ignorant prejudices in American society. As a child of the 50's and early 60's, for me they were the good old days, even though part of a family of modest means. But I know there are those who can point to things that were happening at that time that hopefully we will never see again in the U.S.
Oh Yes!!!!
+gcjerryusc
I have had many delightfully warm and friendly Southern friends and acquaintances over the years. I think a Southern accent is most charming and I have heard it from Southerners of different races. I also find a Southern accent to be very infectious, and I have a good ear for accents and mimicry to start with.
One reason that Vivien Leigh was able to produce a fairly authentic Southern accent in "Gone With the Wind" is that linguists will tell you that the Southern accent has experienced less change from native English-Scots-Irish accents than in other parts of the U.S. I also find the accents from the West Indies and British Caribbean regions to be charming. It's quite a contrast to how we talk if we are native to Noo Yawk, Lawn Guyland or Noo Joisey.
As far as how I would find you, ah'm a wonderin' if'n ah should ask y'all for your picture, cause ah might have ta have mah smellin' salts handy, 'cos I might plumb get the vapors and have one o' mah spells. :-)
Lord that second guest was a big fellow. He reminded me of Tiny Ron's character Lothar in the Rocketeer.
It's also equally sad that the next episode that aired doesn't exit anymore.
Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis were mystery guests, and hilarity ensued all throughout, like no other episode of WML!
I just found out that the Martin & Lewis episode aired on 1/24/1954. That happens to be the day I was born. I've seen a video of the Martin & Lewis segment, but it's too bad the rest of the episode is lost.
I've watched that 1975 show on TH-cam. IMO, it wasn't very good.
🤦🏻♂️. It absolutely exists. Why would you think otherwise...?
exist, not exit
Ms. Fontaine and Ms. DeHeHavilland had such a 'falling out' that is lasted from the 1945 Academy Awards when each was nominated, and when, after Ms. Fontaine won, she thanked somebody else upon returning to her table. Ms. DeHavilland was furious. So much so that Olivia DeHaviiland refused to appear in any movie; and Joan Fontaine refused to appear in any movie with Olivia DeHavilland.
it's interesting their penmanship those times.
Just started watching these episodes in order of air date a couple of weeks ago. I'm determined to get through them all. I may lose my sanity doing so.
Funny, I regain my sanity by doing it.
I try to watch the ones after the perp walk but before the end of Dorothy. I guess I'll run out before you.
Joan de Beauvoir de Havilland, otherwise known as Joan Fontaine died last December 15th (2013) at the age of 96. Her sister Olivia de Havilland, is STILL ALIVE at the age of 98! She will be 99 on July 1, 2015.
i love them both :D
Joe Postove It's sad they didn't get along.
And of April 11th, 2016 SHE IS STILL ALIVE! But I hear that she has slowed down a bit.
As of August 29th, 2016 she is 100 years old and still with us!
De Havilland has for surpassed her usefulness. While she may be afraid, it is about time she joins Joan.
Wow! Emily May, your own mother! Fun to see her now, she was lovely.
And the worm man must've been near 7 feet tall, he towered over Daly! And nice to see Joan Fontaine, though, good grief - her hair and "outfit" were Not becoming! 😯
The usual fun on this show :))
Steve’s wild guess to Mrs. May sounded like something Hal Block might say! Lol!
Jeff Not really. Steve’s comment had class
I never saw Joan Fontaine's resemblance to Olivia de Havilland so much as here.
I think they looked more and more alike as they got older (I like both of them equally).
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And another thing equally sad:
The only time Fontaine was a guest panelist in 1966 is lost forever (also had Dinah Shore as a mystery guest). Both episodes were lost forever, all because of the assembling of a 25th Anniversary Special, that aired only one time late at night, and didn't really get high ratings anyways.
Vahan Nisanian i don't understand why they had to cannibalize these shows to get the segments they needed. Why couldn't they just copy what they needed using a video system and leave the whole reel of film in tact and put it back in the vault. Now i feel like i should be on the lookout for any rare lost episodes.
Dorothy Kilgallen was a detective in a past life. She’s amazing at this.
She was reporter - investigator which cost her life.
My little brother was born 54. His birth let me stay up late to watch TV .
As Bennet Cerf notes (10:45), Arthur Godfrey "buzzed" the Teterboro Tower in New Jersey 10 days before this broadcast aired; although he felt that the act itself was uncalled for, an experienced pilot said that the reason behind the protest was sound:
news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19540118&id=uCEhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3GQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2527,3277199 . As a result of his bad temper, Godfrey's flying license was suspended for six months. The entertainer, not missing a beat, seized the opportunity to record a silly ditty honoring his dubious behavior Arthur Godfrey - Teterboro Tower .
romeman01
Thanks for putting Bennett's comment into context. Interesting story and funny song. I wonder if the airport ever changed their landing policy.
On that fateful day, Godfrey was in such a hurry to take off that he forgot that he had pledged back in 1952 to "learn to be a slow poke, too"
1952 HITS ARCHIVE: Slow Poke - Arthur Godfrey . The conductor is Godfrey's longtime musical director Archie Bleyer, who later, as owner of Cadence Records, put out the fastest-selling album in US history at that point, The First Family, with Vaughn Meader parodying JFK (What's My Line? - Vaughn Meader; Martin Gabel [panel] (Dec 30, 1962) INCOMPLETE).
He was evidently protesting the dangerous conditions to planes created by the closing of a certain runway, due to complaints from the nearby community of Hasbrouck Heights. Their complaint was not only about noise issues but danger to their town.
In the similar situation of Elizabeth, NJ & Newark airport there had been 3 airplane crashes over a period of 60 days in 1951-52! [Recently recalled in Judy Blume's book: In the Unlikely Event]. At this time there were, I think, ~12 crashes a year in the US.
Miss Fontaine was only 36 when she appeared on WML. She and her sister both looked older than their ages due to conservative dress style and rather matronly hair/appearance.
True.
Excellent Joan,my 2nd favourite choice after Dali.
As Bennett Cerf revealed in the WML episode broadcast on November 27, 1966, his wife was often told the name of the mystery guest in advance. We are expected to believe that Mrs. Cerf only slipped up once, but if that is true, why would she be told in the first place? Notice that, on this show, Bennett is the one who asked the question about place of birth, which is what led the others to come to the answer.
Bennett revealed that his wife informed him in one episode, for logistical reasons that went awry. He disclosed that and disqualified himself. He never said, and it is not true, that he knew the identity on any occasion in which he did not disqualify himself.
Bennett was following on a statement by John Daly, who said "Neither" north nor south about the mystery guest's birthplace. Bennett verified that the mystery guest was neither born in the north nor the south and then asked if she had been born outside of the United States. There was no inside knowledge necessary to ask that question. His next question was "Were you born on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean." The answer was no.
I remember one particular episode where Bennet's son was one of the guests that is not the celebrity mystery guest but of course the panel was blindfolded because of familiarity, and Bennett very regretfully had to disqualify himself because someone played a dirty trick on him (I think those were close to, if not his exact words) and revealed to him prior to the show who the would be the guest who would require the panel to be blindfolded. I wonder if that was his wife Phyliss who told him
"Godfrey buzzed. " Arthur Godfrey, who was then huge in TV, but not well-remembered now. This was at the start of his controversial egomaniac period. Four months earlier, he fired his show's boy singer Julius laRosa on live radio -- a huge mistake from any PR angle. Then in early January 1954, he flew rather too low over a Jersey airport and made a bunch of people hopping mad. From this point, he did such things as dismissing his staff in whole sale lots and feuding with Dorothy and other columnists. "Liar!" or words to that effect he said about Dorothy.
great she is so cute,,i want even born then..but I love this old shows
Dorothy often uses the word "weenie" (?) (or how you would spell it) when she gets a premonition about the right line. What kind of word is that? Has she invented it or is it slang? I thought weenie was a hot dog.
49yt
YT is not allowing me to "thumbs up" your post for some reason, but I agree with your assessment of Dorothy's use of the word, "weenie."
David Evans I think you're thinking of a MacGuffin.
WML used "weenie" as slang for sudden inspiration for years, clear into the early 60s. I have shown to my college composition students Arlene's 1958 use of "weenie" the night the chairs of the political parties visit the program as an example of slang. It always got a huge laugh. Frankly, I have never heard "weenie" in that context used anywhere else -- but I am in no position as a 21st century Westerner to have heard it used in the eastern 50s pop kulchur.
What's My Line?
"MacGuffin" as I recall was what Hitchcock used to call his plot drivers the plots of which were not actually important to the overall movie plot. Wait --
David Evans
Very interesting. You could be onto something that the rest of us were not aware of. Btw, would you by any chance be related to the Dave Evans who was a screenwriter for "The Monkees" and other TV shows in the 1960s and 70s?
John Daly is so funny 😂😅🤣💯...
Love watching these old game shows but honestly all that whistling at the ladies makes me want to punch my monitor.
Mrs. May is darling. They all were.
Steve: He's a bouncer at Brooks Brothers! 😂😂😂
Joan Fontaine is also the sister oh Olivia de havalind . Both great actresses.
Joan wasn't even 50 years old when she made her final motion picture. Her work after that was all on stage and television.
I see a little Raymond Massey in Charles Morris, the second contestant.
Funny that Joan Fontaine winced on being asked if she had a sister in show business, since she and her sister are said to have been, more or less, lifelong enemies, though I'm sure she didn't wince for that reason; rather because she knew Dorothy had nailed her identity.
How DO you stuff a wild salami? I thought salami just came naturally, like gravy.
Funniest show ever, I quite enjoyed it 💖💯
4:27
"Not Quite That Happy.. ."
😆😅😂😂😂😂😆😆😂😂😂😅😂😂
I’ve never been able to figure out John Daly’s hair arrangement.
It's arrange in all directs 😅
I guess with the confusion over two-legged animals, that chicken and turkey weren't particularly familiar meats to the panel...
Also, salami made from "cattle"? It's traditionally a *pork* sausage, not made with beef.
4. Weeks after my birth.But I love it now.
Contrary to expectations and usual practice, CD didn’t flip any supplementary cards in the case of the first contestant who just carried away 10$ after yielding so much fun and grace. 🤔🔟
The lingerie lady had difficulty in answering questions about what she should know about in her job ? I guess she was nervous and confused. Who walks outdoors dressed like that ? On stage I suppose to model ? A very likable attractive lady.
Great 2 c Joan Fontaine on the show.I've been a fan of hers 4 ages now.Is she still alive?
It sounded like Bennett said to Mrs. May, the first contestant "I'll be in Kansas". But I know it was "'I've been in Kansas".
As of today , July 16, 2020, her sister Olivia DeHavalind is still alive .
Sadly, just a few days after your comment, Olivia passed away at age 104.
@@mikejschin She decided not to go into covid, dockdowns and vaxx.Very wise decision.
Just writing a short story at the moment which is a tribute to Alfred Hitchcock in which I call my lead female Rebecca, then I just happen by chance to hit on this episode featuring Joan Fontaine! Spooky!
KAN 5.20 UK
Fontaine Seems than 37 here!
In regard to the sisters eternal feud.1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
No one is perfect, in regard to abiding by every verse in the bible. Olivia de Havilland has been a devout Episcopalian for decades, and spent part of her 104th birthday at her local church in Paris. I don't know if Joan Fontaine followed any particular religion.
@@johnfd0210 Seems religion or no religion , stupidity won.
Joan was born in Japan.
1st Guest is just Bennett beating around the bush. #Cerfing
such fun :D
At 24:31, Bennett said, “bigger than two breadboxes?” This was the 34th usage and Bennett’s first time.
At 13:57, Dorothy said, “I just had a weenie.” This was the 13th usage.
Steve said “good night, boys” for the 14th time.
Joan Fontaine was the 34th foreign born MG.
Bennett announced his replacement for the coming week. Did he steal John’s thunder?
When Bennett Cerf asked about the four-legged animal, he was trying to rule out chicken - a two-legged animal of course. The other panel members laughed about this, but he was right to ask. What is salami made from? I've eaten it but don't know.
Most salami is made from pork, and there are many variations using different cuts of the meat prepared different ways. A few recipes call for veal mixed in as well. Beef is used in kosher and halal salami; I've heard of experimental recipes using venison and poultry but have never tried them.
Nice to see that at this time they were still pronouncing properly unlike the inexplicable arrival of the non existent America acccent calling it LINGERIÉ pronounced lingeray!
Joan was an eastern girl. She was born in Tokyo.
John mixed up the Atlantic and the South Pacific. He was about to object to Joan when she answered no if she was born across the Atlantic but after a whispering conference he corrected himself. 19:30
Johan Bengtsson I thought maybe he was unsure about where she was born. Or, yes it is across the Atlantic, if you you're going the looooooooooooong way!
Joe Postove Johan Bengtsson
I also thought he probably did not know where she was born and had assumed it was somewhere in Europe. I laughed at the "looooooooooooong way!" idea, though. :-)
She was born to an English family, closely related to the DeHavillands of aircraft fame, so it wasn't hard to assume she was born in England, however erroneously.
+Joe Postove Was the father in the military? She is not Asian to my knowledge.
Showing off lingerie is instructive. I think John should have given Steve a yes on that question.
True. All sorts of educational potential.
+Joe Postove
I would have thought you learned all those lessons by now! :-P
Lois Simmons When I was a teenager i used to have dance contests for some of the local beauties. They were friends of my sister and when she went to sleep, whoever was sleeping over would dance for Joe! YOWSAH!
Joe Postove This would either mean:
a) You were the kind of brother they wanted to tease and get you all hot and bothered. Then they would retreat to the sanctuary of your sister's room and leave you, as they say in French, to your own devices;
b) Your sister had more girlfriends than most of the girls in her class because you were the hot brother they all wanted to get close to, hoping you'd pick them to be your girl;
c) You were on your way to becoming a Chuck Barris or a Howard Stern until fate intervened and you decided to use your powers for good rather than evil.
Probably best not to answer that, Joe. Any answer you give would either be bragging or humiliating.
And now excuse me while I try to get the image of my brother doing something like that out of my head. :-O
I plead a fifth!
Joan Fontaine was born in Japan in 1917
So was her sister, who survives her, Olivia DeHavilland
@@jimgeiser1570 Miss Olivia de Havilland was born July 1, 1916; she celebrated her 104th birthday earlier this month. Photographs were published of her at her local church, and she looked great,
Why have most of these videos suddenly become private??
I can't remember the exact details, but it had something to do with some problems/issues with TH-cam. They are no longer listed as private.
So sad. She looks so much like Olivia.
Two legged cattle cow salami. Yum.
One of the funnier episodes ive seen.
Joan Fontaine was born in 1917 - she is 37 here.
I think Mr Caniff would be quite out of place in Jackson Heights these days 😬
In a 1978 interview, Fontaine said of the sibling rivalry, "I married first, won the Oscar before Olivia did, and if I die first, she'll undoubtedly be livid because I beat her to it!
Markxxx And she DID die first
It’s interesting. Joan usually blames the “feud” on Olivia or her mom, but I usually only see her talking about it in public.....
And she did
Narcissists always blame everybody else, and never themselves. Watch Dr. Ramani on YT.
@@llcooljay520 I always liked Joan better and as an actress.
It is to bad there was bad blood between sisters but I don't think it is not that uncommon, regrettable but not uncommon. I assume it was from rivalry and jealousy by one or both. The parents should of helped stop it is possible but it sounds like the mother encouraged it. I don't know. They apparently did not hate each other because they recommended each other for roles neither one of them could play for one reason or the other. They both were talented, beautiful and nice ladies. We wish them both well. RIP Olivia and Joan. The feud is over now I hope. Dead is the great equalizer.
Joan Fontaine, so much more classier and a stronger Actor than her old sister
I like them both. Olivia de Havilland was great as Maid Marian in "The Adventures of Robin Hood", for example, while I always remember Joan Fontaine from "Rebecca".
I think Olivia de Havilland was a great actress and not a bit less classy than Joan Fontaine. That said, I have nothing negative to say about either of them. I note it was Joan Fontaine who estranged herself from her older sister. Both of them, by the way, won Best Actress Oscars. They're the only sisters ever to have done that. I note that if you look at a list of award nominations, Olivia de Havilland had considerably more of them than Joan Fontaine, so, based on that, I don't think I could rightly say Joan Fontaine was the stronger actor of the two. I do note that I thoroughly enjoyed Joan Fontaine in the 1939 film _The Women_, based on Claire Boothe's Broadway comedy -- she was all of 21 or 22 when the film was made. De Havilland was of similar age when she starred in the 1938 film _Robin Hood_, also one of my favorites. I think the first movie I saw with Joan Fontaine was the 1943 version of _Jane Eyre_ (she played teh title role) with Orson Welles in the male lead role as Rochester. I note that Olivia de Havilland used her real name. Joan Fontaine adopted "Fontaine", which was her mother's surname. Their parents were English and both actresses were born in Tokyo, Japan.
+ToddSF 94109
According to what I've read, a lot of the sibling rivalry and Joan's estrangement was based on their mother greatly favoring Olivia over Joan and Olivia using that situation to lord it over Joan when they were growing up together. The extent of the family dysfunction was so extreme that their mother forbade Joan from using the last name of de Havilland professionally.
Adding further to the family soap opera, when the mother came back to the U.S. with the girls, their father quickly returned to Japan, divorced their mother and married their Japanese housekeeper.
Someone said they had different fathers. I never knew that. Seemed more like they may have had different mothers. Always thought Joan was prettier but both were loaded with class and good actresses.
Favoring children can interfere with the bonding of siblings. Not all the time but it can set up the propensity for it depending on the dynamics in the home. Never a good thing for a parent to practice.
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Joan was fun, No sir
They figured out it was Joan Fontaine simply because she was born in Asia??
It certainly would help narrow it down. There were only a handful of actresses at the time who were born in the Orient (which was what was asked and which narrowed it down more than just Asia) and who had a sister who was also an actress. Any time they can narrow down the possibilities to a group with a tiny population, they are home free. Quite often you will hear Steve Allen say (after he has narrowed down the possibilities), "the only one I can think of is ..." Or he would call it a "stab in the dark", but it was often correct (sometimes to John Daly's amazement).
Lois Simmons I just didn't realize it was such a well-known fact that she was born in Tokyo that it helped narrow it down to her. Even John didn't seem to know she was born there. Though maybe Dorothy knew from being a journalist
I thought it was well known that Joan and Olivia were born in Japan to British parents; their father was a banker working there. Maybe less well known is that the parents separated when the girls were very young, and mother and daughters settled in Saratoga, California, in the southern San Francisco bay area not far from where I live, for most of their school years. So Joan's real Anglo-American accent is authentic, unlike her "Southern" imitation. This may help explain why she disclaimed being a Northerner, too.