What's My Line? - LOST EPISODE!!! Hedda Hopper; Constance Moore [panel] (Apr 29, 1951)
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- Last year, through the coordinated efforts of the WML Facebook group, we were able to acquire and make available an episode from Oct 1, 1950 that hadn't been seen by the public since it originally aired. I'm truly delighted to have the opportunity to share a second "lost" episode of WML. Let's hope there are many more waiting to be found!
MYSTERY GUEST: Hedda Hopper
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf, Constance Moore, Hal Block
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What's My Line? Is it true Eddy and Mac hate each other
What's My Line? Did Eddy and Mac hate each other
I don't know who you're referring to.
What's My Line? I just want to thank you SO, SO MUCH for uploading all these episodes. They’ve honestly been essential to my mental health, allowing me to briefly escape from these terrible times in which we live. I’m eternally grateful to you.
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This episode seems to be one of the most animated one I've seen. I so glad you were able to find this gem. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it-- and thanks for the comment!
Yes, they all seem a bit more spirited for some reason. Was this one aired?
What a treat. Thank you so much for your hard work finding and posting this. So important to preserve television history, especially in those super early days.
I'm glad that this episode came to light, because it's a lot of fun to watch. Nothing seems to faze any of the contestants this evening, each of whom displays an interesting and engaging personality all her/his own.
I thought that one of the previous commentators was exaggerating when he said that Constance Moore married in her teens, but he/she wasn't: she was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD when she married Hollywood agent John Maschino. And they were, indeed, happily married for about 63 years (with two children), "till death do us part" (his death, in 1998). I think that Miss Moore does a great job as a panelist on this show.
Thank you very much for sharing this with us!
What a wonderful treat! Praying for more 1951s to be discovered! :)
Wow Ive been watching 1962 - 65 episodes, didnt even realize how old this was
Love this series!!! My wife and I watch an episode of this and To Tell the Truth and What's My Line every night during dinner. I watched this a tiny bit as kid in the 1950's but now I can appreciate everything about this delightful show. Thanks so much for sharing with us!!!
Lie detector lady was the most confident non celebrity guest I've ever seen.
No, the (best) skirt-blowing guy “Definitely!” was, but she was fantastic too. I watched without knowing her line and I really enjoyed her style of answering and trying to guess from it.
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Then you may not have seen too many.
She should’ve guest hosted when John was away the 2? Times he was.
Wasn't she
An awesome find! Thank you so very much for making it possible to enjoy WML to us all!
I feel calm and at ease while watching this show. thank you
Loved watching Hedda Hopper. She seemed to be older and it struck me that I was watching someone likely born in the 1880s. And yet the way she talked boisterously, she might’ve been the lady next-door today. The societal time capsule effect of these episodes is just fascinating. Brings the past so close to today. It makes me realize how much we all aren’t that different if we went back in time.
For someone who was having so much fun, Hedda got out of there fast.
Mattress man is hilarious, he should have had his own TV show!
The LIVE studio audience interfered when Hal Block said that it was either a pillow or mattress. The LIVE studio audiences should have NEVER been allowed to see the contestants jobs/careers. Showing the viewers at home is one thing, but NOT the LIVE studio audiences. Try being a contestant and the LIVE audience giving your job/career away.
@@listeningeyes3298 It's part of the fun. Else there would have been way less laughs in the studio.
Also, it's supposed to be a little help. Arlene has always been paying a lot of attention to the audience.
Hedda's hat is a hoot!
Great Change !!! From what is now seen on TV,,, just watching without all the hatred in the World these days. Really enjoyed this,,, even though I was not born when this show was on TV.
A classic that will still be shown on TV as repeats in 2117! The producers finally got smart in 1955 or 1956 when they started limiting questions to just one for the famous guests. It got toooo easy.
Spring 1955 is when that rule went into effect.
Hopefully more epiaodes surface.Never say never.
I never have! :)
Mrs. Hopper is someone Dorothy probably knew all too well if were being honest.🤓
Indeed! Except Dorothy tended to be more sure of the facts than Hopper before she destroyed someone's career.
Wow, that bauble around Hedda Hopper's neck - whooowee!
Thank you for including the commercials and everything that went with this when it was first aired. Truly appreciate it when the episodes are posted this way.
That was fun, partly because it was "lost." And it was a good episode, too.
Glad you enjoyed it-- and thanks for the comment, Vincent!
My grandmother, Eileen Bernhardt was a guest on Whats My Line. Her secret was she was a female Santa Claus. I would be so excited if you could find this episode! If you know where to find this episode can you send me the link. I would love to see her! Thank.you!
Was she on the CBS "What's My Line?" (which aired every Sunday evening from 1950 to 1967), or on the syndicated "What's My Line?" (which aired 5 days a week from 1968 to 1975)? Or was she perhaps on the radio edition of "What's My Line?" (which aired for a few years in the early 1950s)?
If she had been on the CBS show (which is the focus of the What's My Line? channel on TH-cam), it is likely that her name would come up on an Internet search somewhere on the tv.com site, as those who compiled the CBS "What's My Line?" information to that site had access to the production logs for the show, including "lost episodes" from that show's 17 2/3 year run.
As it did not, I suspect that she may have appeared on the syndicated show, instead, particularly as she would by then have been in her 40s when the new WML? was on the air. (Her obituary does not indicate which version of WML? she appeared on - only that she did appear as a contestant on "What's My Line?" and what her "line" was.)
Happy hunting!
This interesting article about Eileen Bernhardt (1995) seemed to indicate that she might have been on What’s My Line in the 1970’s. It told how Mrs. Bernhardt started being a Santa. It was when she and her husband both lost their jobs before Christmas. How she came to start actually seeing the wishes of the children come true was moving. What a wonderful lady she was!
www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1995-12-11-1995345062-story,amp.html
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The ring that Constance Moore is wearing is absolutely beauuuutiful!💕😮
10:06 Ms. Fernandez waves and says "Hi" to someone in the audience....
I noticed that too, and of course, Mr. Horowitz says hello to his daughter, Joyce at the beginning of his segment. Two instances of off-stage greetings in the same episode. I wonder if perhaps this was fairly common during this time period of WML's run, and it's just that we don't have enough examples of the show from this era to have seen it before on TH-cam.
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I'm excited to watch this with the gang!
Quite an epic live chat we had in the Facebook group last night-- over 500 comments in the course of 30 minutes!
It was very exciting!!! I'm glad Patrick alerted me. Sometimes life just goes by too fast these days. Great job Master Gary! Kudos to you and your merry team.
Knew Connie Moore lovely friend & person. RIP Connie! Kevin Taylor
I love what Mrs. Fernandez is wearing!
LOVE Hedda! Yes, I know she was nasty customer but a great hat is a great hat!
Thank you so much for these videos. I am enjoying them.
So much fun! Thank you!
I loved the Stopette ads and Jules showing off with his bottles and test tubes....
23:55 The first use of the term “weenie.” Dorothy says, “Have you a weenie, Connie?”
That was a jolly good time.
The 50's older episodes, seems more fun. Than 60's episodes
i love that Constance Moore also congratulated Dorothy for finding out the guy is a mattress manufacturer.
I love these so much! Thank you for gathering and organizing!
It is amazing you finding these lost episodes. Have you ever found the one with Dick Haymes as mystery guest? Many thanks, Clive
No, but believe me, any episodes that turn up will be posted-- I have no interest, really, in acquiring more shows if I can't share them.
Thanks for posting these!
This was a departure from how they normally were. John Daly smoking!?! And as Hedda Hopper left, NONE of the men stood up!
Although I love the questioning around the mattress man. The fact that the panel had no idea why their innocent questioning was so hilarious. I was dying too
This was a fun episode... glad you found it Gary.... hoping one day to see that you found the episode with Lauritz Melchior ...
If I do, I certainly post it! :) Good to see you commenting again, PepsiMama2!
I Vaguely Remember the Later Episodes of this Program as a Boy.But I Really Enjoy These Classic "Oldies"
"Does it give them pleasure? ...." "Oh yes!" ..... laughter .....wish we could go back to these times....
Suuuuper.. Hal is back :).. thank you for this treasure..
Hal is in great form in this episode. Glad you enjoyed the video!
What's My Line? And it delights me that Hal was the one guessing contestant #2.. A rare event ;)
He gave up on the New York Giants a bit too soon, given that they won the pennant in a three game playoff about 6 months later
October 3, 1951. One of the saddest days for Brooklyn Dodger fans. I wasn't even born yet when that happened and my skin still crawls when I hear Russ Hodges shouting, "The Giants win the pennant, the Giants win the pennant ..."
Hal Block was referring to statements made by Dodgers Manager Chuck Dressen at the time that "The Giants are dead." (They had gotten off to a terrible start, winning their first game and then losing 11 in a row) while the Dodgers were flying high in April, getting an early 5 game lead.
Also, there is a famous story that in Ebbets Field, the two clubhouses were separated by just a single door that could be opened from either side. The players might shout through the door ribbing each other at times, but would always respect the privacy of the other team when they were having team strategy meetings. And the ribbing would never get too vicious.
But when the Dodgers swept the Giants that April at Ebbets Field, after the final game Dressen and some of the players were singing through the door "The Giants are dead." Dressen had been a coach under Giants manager Leo Durocher and to him the Dodger sweep was proof that he had been the brains behind Durocher's success as a manager. So he was really rubbing it in. When the Giants started to play better and had a fantastic run in August and September (and some say they cheated by positioning someone with binoculars in the center field clubhouse at the Polo Grounds to steal the signs of the opposing catcher and relay them to the dugout by a buzzer system), the Giants players used this as motivation to spur them on.
The Giants were also helped by calling up a young player by the name of Willie Mays about a month after this episode of WML aired and some improvements to their pitching staff.
One other fallout of the Dodgers singing in April was that the Giants complained to the National League office and the doorway between the clubhouses in Ebbets Field was bricked up.
Great perspective. Thanks for this...
+sdfeinstein
You're welcome. It's cathartic!
Why single out the New York Giants for stealing signs that year? Sign-stealing is one of those "artful dodgings" practiced in baseball - as the spitball had been before 1920 or so. In his book, "Veeck - As In Wreck," Bill Veeck admitted to having someone with a spotting telescope out in the center-field stands at Municipal Stadium in Cleveland in 1948 to steal signs and relay the stolen signs to the dugout (depending on which Indian player was at bat - not everybody needed or wanted the help).
+jmccracken1963
While the 1951 Giants aren't the only example, most players over the years differentiate between someone on the field stealing signs and someone off the field doing it. The players, the coaches on the field when their team is at bat, those in the dugout and those in the bullpen are part of the game. Someone in the clubhouse, the scoreboard or the stands is not supposed to be part of the game.
It is my understanding that umpires have the discretion to put a stop to such practices when they discover them, just as they can eject someone in the stands who is doing something to interfere with play on the field (for example, reaching over the fence to interfere with a player attempting to catch a ball or reflecting a mirror into the eyes of players). Note that the Giants were not accused of employing this tactic after the 1951 season. If it was legal, why not continue it?
I will admit that the Dodgers had already suspected that the Giants were employing this tactic by the time of the third game of the playoffs, and that it was up to their catchers to disguise the signs from whoever was stealing them. But someone with baseball experience (and the Giants supposedly were using Herman Franks, a catcher by trade as a player) would be able to pick up on sign changes pretty quickly. So it would have been a cat and mouse game.
This is such a treat. Thank you!
He's like, "I won't go through the rules again." And then he DOES lol
A weird moment at 5:05.......I think the contestant asked between questions to Dorothy "Do You sleep well?" Wonder why she felt the need to ask that.
Joseph Hoag yes she actually gave away a huge clue so it’s lucky they didn’t hear her!
Stick to yes and no Mrs F!
24:39 Bennet snorting at his own joke might be my very favourite thing
Once again, I have never heard of someone. Had to look up Constance Moore.
Me neither, and as a Dallasite I found that surprising!
"I think she's a pallbearer for the New York Giants."
On April 29 the Giants were 2-12 on the season. They would stage a miraculous second half comeback to win the pennant on Bobby Thomson's famous "shot heard round the world" home run.
It was miraculous because the Giants placed an employer with binoculars in the center field stands and he signaled to Giants batters what pitches were going to come their way. That is how they came back and it is how Bobby Thomson knew what was coming when he hit "The Shot Heard Round the World" but seen from his friend in center field.
@@preppysocks209 Never heard that before - it's certainly complete nonsense or else it would have been made known in all these intervening years.
@@robertfiller8634 It has been made known. The Wall Street Journal broke the story about 10 years ago.
@@preppysocks209 The February 13, 2020 Washington Post has an article about this incident and the history of sign-stealing in the Major Leagues. The article told of the reporting done by Joshua Prager, who published the story for the Wall Street Journal in 2001 and then in a book in 2006. "Illegally stealing the opposing catcher’s signals started in at least 1899 with a set of opera glasses, a man behind the center field wall and the Philadelphia Phillies, Prager’s research found."
My grandma watched this, television's gayest game show when I was a kid. I would spend summers with her. She liked all of the game shows. I visited her during the late 1950's till 1963. This brings back memories. Thanks. She passed in 1964..
Hedda Hopper was basically the “TMZ” of the “golden age” age of television, basically considered THE “gossiping ninny” of the 40s. She was a strong supporter of the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings, Hopper named suspected communists and was a major proponent of the Hollywood blacklist. She did so through her column that she wrote, which at its height had 10s of millions of readers. She was not a good judge of character however, often attacking people if they offended her slightly or didn’t fit in with a certain type of “class” of person. She was also a well known racist who championed white supremacy and truly believed that segregation was just and humane. As a black man myself watching her laugh and giggle is disgusting.
Definitely understandable. Shelley Winters had an anecdote in her first autobiography, in which she was advised by someone before her first meeting with Hopper that Hopper had a secret passion for someone famous who had once slept with her on a ship or something. Winters pulled her aside and asked about it and got exactly the reception she'd hoped.
OMG !!!! I was only 5 days old .
congratulations
Hedda Hopper segment is such fun!
Thanks for this. Interesting to see Bloch in Cerf's spot, and Cerf in Arlene's spot.
Loved seeing this, basically as it originally appeared with the commercials and the outro with the next week's contestant.
It's interesting how tall Mr. Horowitz was... I'm guessing something like 6' 8" at least. Very obvious when he walked by the panel.
Mrs Fernandez was fab, and the mattress guy. Even Hopper was very funny and vivacious (horrible woman). Interesting to see the show when it was a bit less polished and more scrappy.
Constance Moore was a good panelist.
In that "lost" opening clip, Jules Montenier was actually working on a secret nuclear project for the Soviet Union.
Great show. And, you learn history as well!
Love the Hedda hat!
27:28 that must be one of the earliest Ken Nordine voiceovers
Classic show.
Wasn't Hedda Hoper the mother of William Hopper who played Paul Drake on Perry Mason?
It was super weird how Dorothy Kilgallen explain "i would've killed myself"...i legit had to rewind 3 times...just as she guesses correctly, Hedda she says it ...just wow
I understand where you are coming from, but it IS a common enough phrase that people say. It's not exactly a premonition.
Bill Daily has no hesitation using the word gypped!
i never ever ever heard of Stoppette.
i guess it didn’t last very long! :)
Strange now to see a show host just light up a smoke, mid show lol
Jedda Hoppers son was a regular on Perry Mason
It's funny to see the men were still wearing the 1940s suits style, and of course, it was 1951
23:34 I thought he asked "does she have nipples?"🤦
What did he say that's what I thought
wow JOHN D really starting parting his hair on left side way back then, GUess he and barber used plenty of that gel I saw GEN Mccarthur speech to CONGRESS and man did he have the ultimate comb over!, He def had to use a jar of that pomade
Hedda Hopper: if she is wearing that hat for a dare, then she's won!
That second guest pulled a Commander Riker getting into his chair.
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14:03 is What's My Line gold
I noticed in the early episodes that male panelists don't stand for the women mystery guests like they did as the show went on...
thank goodness they eventually got rid of Hal Block.
I got a chill when Dorothy says "I'd have killed myself!" O.O
When the host starts smoking...Woah...what a surprise!!😮😮😊
I love Dorothy 💞
I can't believe I actually guessed the first occupation.Yahoooo!!
I imagine that this became a "lost" episode due in part to the fact that Dorothy can be heard saying both "I would've killed myself" and "I would have just died" if she'd have not been able to guess the identity of the celebrity guest mixed with the uncertainty surrounding her death years later. WML most likely kept this episode out of any rotation due to a certain respect to this devastating loss of one of their long-time and beloved panelists.
I must admit, learning of her death and the uncertainty surrounding it and other factors in her life at the time, as well as her family's reactions, immediately and over time, has kept me up many nights. I grew to love her by watching these WML episodes and to respect her a great deal, for her mental acuity both on the screen and off, and despite the difference if many years, I still feel/felt her loss quite acutely.
I do thank you so much for uploading these as I truly find myself laughing out loud without realizing it. I am disabled and bedridden and live in a great deal of pain and discomfort, yet these episodes help pull me into a different time completely, and I love it! My brother originally showed me an episode to marvel at how Walt Disney was asked what he thought about this TV getup that had been around for TWO-THREE YEARS! Oh, we got a chuckle out of that! 😄 Both my brother and I, being of computer-based careers (when I could work), also found it fascinating when the Remington Rand weather commercial ran, with their 'amazing and high-tech computer'! I seriously LOVE this show a and no matter what else I watch during the day, I usually go back to WML multiple times!!! 💜💜💜💜
The reason this episode was never a part of the Goodson-Todman archive of WML has nothing to do with any sensitivities over the content of the show, really. It's just that they didn't start archiving the shows until July 1952, when they discovered that CBS wasn't preserving copies. We're just lucky that a copy of it existed outside of the G-T archive. We've found one other previously "lost" episode (so far) from 1950, and some fragments of other lost shows.
Anyhow, I'm very glad to read that you've found comfort in these videos-- nothing could make me happier to read. :)
Serious Question: If the Stopette bottle was the first of its kind, how was it dispensed otherwise? By hand?
Powder, I think.
I also believe they had creme deodorants at one time. I think it was put on with your fingers and that's what the lady doing the first commercial is referring to when she says no sticky fingers.
There were creams, applied with fingers, and liquids, applied with a cotton ball or other disposable fabric pad.
I really don't think deodorant existed as a thing until TV was invented for the purpose of selling crap that nobody needs.
I wonder how many cancers were caused by all that "poofing" of cosmeticsn over the years, made by not always the healthiest chemicals....
Description says date of first found episode not original
That Mr. BLOCH Reminds me of Al Capp.......!
What a classy show. The crap on tv now can't compare!!!
Constance Moore is wearing a huge ROCK💍💎
Hedda Hopper. The original Gossip Girl!
Hedda was a rotten actress Louella even worse also notice not a big appaluse for Hopper soon she would be poison but then the appaulse louder on future shows
Have you seen Hedda in "Midnight" (1939)? She played her part very well, I thought, and held the screen opposite such scene-stealing hams as John Barrymore and Don Ameche.
$5.00 in todays money is $56.00. And the winnings, $50.00 is $562.00 today.
I *assume* Hal Block calls Daly "Boris Karloff" at around 10:02, but I can't quite hear the last name. It would make sense, I guess, given that he played a famous executioner at one point.
I wish people would post the episode with Carmen Miranda.
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Hal Block was fired from the show for making a comment that annoyed the sponsor.
Interesting to watch the cameramen adjusting things while "live" on the air. Pans, lens circling, etc. The control room director's fault. Not bad overall though.
11-21-23: Today's Quiz: What was Hopper's original name? (look below for answer):
Elda Furry.
picture but there isn't any sound, vocal!
Hedda was a great gardener. So much so she decided to wear a flower pot on her head on this show
Lol I know it would be too much asking but I've been avoiding many Hal Block episodes just because of his attitude, it would have been great to know in which shows he behaves rather well and plays the game without making cringing comments. I guess I'll have to check in the comments sections before watching.
This panel is not very good at listening to the questions previously asked!
Poor Dorothy said I would have killed myself. She did not kill herself but she was killed or say murdered 😢 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭