Hi Mike, are the tenmet covers just laid-in place then sprayed foamed for adhesion? I hope to give my attic some attention from all the contractors’ work over the years. It’s amazing they punch the holes and never adequately address or seal the penetrations. Sad honestly.
I don't have access to attic space above my can lights. Is there anything I can do to insulate from below? Are there any gaskets that can be used with LED lights that will seal the gap between the bulb edge and the socket, like a large black insulated donut?
Good video. Can the application of silicon caulking where the light meets the drywall assist in preventing any leakage into the attic. We just did a kitchen reno where we put 6 additional recessed lights and I believe the only thing compromised was the wire going through the vapor barrier. They are all IC LED models. In addition we upgraded the attic to R52. Comments?
Crawl Space Ninja I like watching the crawl space videos. I had some difficulty with moisture in my crawlspace. I am getting it under control, so I don’t need to worry about it anymore.
New subscriber here.....no recessed lights here...but have the electric box flush to ceiling sheetrock with surface lights....do you recommend the same covers to slow leakage in my house or is there a smaller cheaper way or should I just ignore those?
Great question, David. There are actually a ton of different products out there that will work for electric boxes. Make sure to check out Amazon as well as the big Home DIY stores. You should be able to find a solution that isn't as expensive. We hope this helps. Thanks for watching and have a happy and blessed day.
Interesting. I think our modular home has the white fluffy foam around them. But I never installed anything not led when we had the house built 4 years ago. Our power bill is lower than our last home which was smaller. LED lights are worth the investment. Just get the correct color temperature bulbs or they can look crazy.
insulation is like a warm sweater... it insulates the temperature, but airflow with cut right through it... that is why on cold days you use a jacket over your sweater (blocks airflow). Therefore, yes you do need to sprayfoam/caulk (cause it is the jacket to the insulation)
Can someone please answer this question? If the recessed lighting can is IC rated, why do need this cover? I shoudl be able lay insulation right above this
@@wsiddiqi even though you recessed can is rated for insulation contact, that doesn't mean the insulation will stop air leakage. with an IC rated can, the tenmat or can cover is there to reduce (or stop) air leakage. even though many IC rated cans say they're 'sealed' it doesn't mean they're airtight. that tightness is what the can cover helps accomplish if installed correctly.
I just can’t get on board with using these in the south. $15-20 each when I have almost 20 in the house, and that’s without paying someone to install. How long would it take to make that back in energy, ten or twenty years? Wouldn’t caulking around the light face form an airtight seal and prevent air leaking? A homeowner could DIY that for less than $10 total.
The light covers not only help keep the air from leaking, they also reduce the heat coming from the lights from getting into the attic and making it hotter, and it allows you to insulate your attic with blown-in insulation since you can't have the insulation covering the lights (fire hazard).
(former insulation laborer and navy electrician) not expert or certified, but...yes caulking around the face of the light at the edges would help some (slightly). Also I would be curious as to which part of the south u r referring to. (I've lived in a few diff places all over the South and currently own home in South AL) but just because u stop all the air doesn't mean u still won't lose a lot of heat energy, transfered thru thin, non-insulating materials, such as the metal that the light fixture is made of (metal is a good conductor, not insulator) or wood, or plastic (just depends on type and thickness..) this is how the infamous "R value" is calculated...how well the material "resists" (nothing will absolutely stop it) the transfer of thermal energy (i.e. 'heat') from one side (or 'thru') to the other (even if no air is being transferred) Sry hope u can understand that..
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@@CrawlSpaceNinja hmmm…fiberglass insulation has been over my cans for 30 years. Also…this would have to be less of a concern with modern LED light retrofits
They're about $20 a pop. Might as well buy plastic buckets and spray foam them into place over the lights. I can buy a 5 gallon bucket from Menards for $3 a pop but somehow these recycled paper covers are $20.
Hi Mike, are the tenmet covers just laid-in place then sprayed foamed for adhesion? I hope to give my attic some attention from all the contractors’ work over the years. It’s amazing they punch the holes and never adequately address or seal the penetrations. Sad honestly.
Good call with these covers, definitely worth having from an air movement blocker as well as fire preventative.
Thanks so much! We really like them.
I don't have access to attic space above my can lights. Is there anything I can do to insulate from below? Are there any gaskets that can be used with LED lights that will seal the gap between the bulb edge and the socket, like a large black insulated donut?
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Good video. Can the application of silicon caulking where the light meets the drywall assist in preventing any leakage into the attic. We just did a kitchen reno where we put 6 additional recessed lights and I believe the only thing compromised was the wire going through the vapor barrier. They are all IC LED models. In addition we upgraded the attic to R52. Comments?
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I have really enjoyed watching your videos!
Thank you so much. Do you have a favorite topic you like watching?
Crawl Space Ninja I like watching the crawl space videos. I had some difficulty with moisture in my crawlspace. I am getting it under control, so I don’t need to worry about it anymore.
New subscriber here.....no recessed lights here...but have the electric box flush to ceiling sheetrock with surface lights....do you recommend the same covers to slow leakage in my house or is there a smaller cheaper way or should I just ignore those?
Great question, David. There are actually a ton of different products out there that will work for electric boxes. Make sure to check out Amazon as well as the big Home DIY stores. You should be able to find a solution that isn't as expensive. We hope this helps. Thanks for watching and have a happy and blessed day.
Interesting. I think our modular home has the white fluffy foam around them.
But I never installed anything not led when we had the house built 4 years ago. Our power bill is lower than our last home which was smaller. LED lights are worth the investment. Just get the correct color temperature bulbs or they can look crazy.
LED lights are awesome. Definitely agree that the color temperature can make things wild if you're not careful. Thanks for commenting!
Do you really need to spray foam around covers if you are adding insulation?
insulation is like a warm sweater... it insulates the temperature, but airflow with cut right through it... that is why on cold days you use a jacket over your sweater (blocks airflow). Therefore, yes you do need to sprayfoam/caulk (cause it is the jacket to the insulation)
Nice video! Should I get these if my LED hi hats are IC rated? Or is it safe to insulate right over and up to the hi hats, without the Tenmat?
Great question and I’m disappointed that it was ignored! Did you find an answer? Thanks.
Can someone please answer this question? If the recessed lighting can is IC rated, why do need this cover? I shoudl be able lay insulation right above this
@@wsiddiqi even though you recessed can is rated for insulation contact, that doesn't mean the insulation will stop air leakage. with an IC rated can, the tenmat or can cover is there to reduce (or stop) air leakage. even though many IC rated cans say they're 'sealed' it doesn't mean they're airtight. that tightness is what the can cover helps accomplish if installed correctly.
I just can’t get on board with using these in the south. $15-20 each when I have almost 20 in the house, and that’s without paying someone to install. How long would it take to make that back in energy, ten or twenty years? Wouldn’t caulking around the light face form an airtight seal and prevent air leaking? A homeowner could DIY that for less than $10 total.
The light covers not only help keep the air from leaking, they also reduce the heat coming from the lights from getting into the attic and making it hotter, and it allows you to insulate your attic with blown-in insulation since you can't have the insulation covering the lights (fire hazard).
(former insulation laborer and navy electrician) not expert or certified, but...yes caulking around the face of the light at the edges would help some (slightly). Also I would be curious as to which part of the south u r referring to.
(I've lived in a few diff places all over the South and currently own home in South AL) but just because u stop all the air doesn't mean u still won't lose a lot of heat energy, transfered thru thin, non-insulating materials, such as the metal that the light fixture is made of (metal is a good conductor, not insulator) or wood, or plastic (just depends on type and thickness..) this is how the infamous "R value" is calculated...how well the material "resists" (nothing will absolutely stop it) the transfer of thermal energy (i.e. 'heat') from one side (or 'thru') to the other (even if no air is being transferred)
Sry hope u can understand that..
Just had y’all install encapsulation and dehumidifier and I can’t get my Crawspace below 67% and it’s running constantly. What do I need to do
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What about a styrofoam coolers, if I run led's
I suppose that would would - be careful not to expose to heat and check local codes for fire rating, if needed.
Dont see where to register for Aprilair dehumidifer...
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Why not just blast the can with spray foam?
If it is Non-IC rated "No insulation can contact it" It could start a fire.
@@CrawlSpaceNinja hmmm…fiberglass insulation has been over my cans for 30 years. Also…this would have to be less of a concern with modern LED light retrofits
Not 1 single recessed light in my mid 70's home.
That's good! Thanks for watching.
Then why did you even bother watching and commenting?
Crap, I'm one of those people with 60 can lights 😂😂😂. 60 light covers will not be cheap.... Yuck
😂 It will be worth it!
They're about $20 a pop. Might as well buy plastic buckets and spray foam them into place over the lights. I can buy a 5 gallon bucket from Menards for $3 a pop but somehow these recycled paper covers are $20.