World Cup Quarter-Finals Preview

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  • Hold on tight Dream Team the Rugby World Cup Quarter-Finals are here.
    We preview the most exciting rugby weekend of the year from the perspective of the pool winners… our English trio are joined by Shane Horgan (Ireland), Ben Kayser (France), Jon “Fox” Davies (Wales).
    Season 4 of GBR is in partnership with Continental Tyres.
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  • @stephenkelly3564
    @stephenkelly3564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    Here's an idea, what if every tier 1 team 'buddied' up with a tier 2 nation, , maybe similar to Ireland and Portugal did at their training camp in July but more involved than that, trained with them at scheduled times, provided feedback and strategies to improve them etc. Basically, every tier 1 nation to 'sponsor' a tier 2 nation.

    • @liamjohnston6648
      @liamjohnston6648 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Great idea

    • @creekyknee
      @creekyknee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That, young man is an excellent idea.

    • @isitwasit8756
      @isitwasit8756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      International tier 1 teams haven't the time pre any tournament to be coaching other international teams when they have limited time to concentrate on themselves.. a rediculous idea.. what will make the so called tier 2 teams get better is more games against other tier 2 teams and tier 1..

    • @benjabin6729
      @benjabin6729 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      England did something similar with Georgia at some point I think

    • @jukeseyable
      @jukeseyable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I absolutely love it, building a world on kindness, co op and solidarity. The way it should be. Just dont send any tier 2 to england, we want to improve T2, not handycap them

  • @adrianmchugh1302
    @adrianmchugh1302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Great podcast. One point I'd disagree with Horgan and Haskell about is over SA's style of play. I think their attack has progressed significantly since the last Lions series. For sure, if it's working, they're happy to pummel their way to victory via their forwards (as they did against NZ at Twickenham recently) but their backline attack can also be devastating. Willemse, Arendse, Kolbe, Libbok and Williams are as athletic and quick a set of players as there is in world rugby in my opinion.

    • @daggaboom
      @daggaboom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤫

    • @DM-rp9ik
      @DM-rp9ik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has

    • @haggiesm
      @haggiesm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It's frankly just lazy analysis. Pundits from the northern hemisphere don't seem to watch the Boks unless they play one of the home nations. So their only references are the Lions series (the Boks' first games of a rugby in a year!) and the 2019 final, which they like to ignore so they remember the semi against Wales. SA hasn't been a kick and crash team for a long time.

    • @janleroux5744
      @janleroux5744 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tindall, Hask and Horgan were very 1 dimensional players in their time. They have zero clue as to what boring/exciting rugby is... The fact they actually tune in to watch England games, zzzzzz.

    • @uSbusiso_
      @uSbusiso_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he knows just won't admit it

  • @evertog
    @evertog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Said this before but Shane Horgan is the epitome of reason, humility and articulacy. Absolute legend.

    • @wesleyfoley5116
      @wesleyfoley5116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great hands! #CrokePark

  • @owenL
    @owenL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Horgan: “It’s one of our skills as a nation: wangling tickets,” 😂😂

    • @johncraig9011
      @johncraig9011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the Irish wangling a win against the Bokka, by hook or by crook with the Ref's help at the end of game. It's not in the spirit of the game to hang on, off the ball the Bok players in the breakdowns.

    • @darrendoheny9768
      @darrendoheny9768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@johncraig9011 When a maul goes to ground the ball must be "immediately available". The decision was correct.

    • @robertomeara3469
      @robertomeara3469 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@johncraig9011Sour grapes lad

  • @paulkeogh3518
    @paulkeogh3518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I was feeling very optimistic about Ireland right up until Hask picked them.😢

    • @garethrichmond4388
      @garethrichmond4388 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol

    • @kevinewert8546
      @kevinewert8546 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.

    • @dannygray-mi3xn
      @dannygray-mi3xn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't worry mate, I have a feeling this Ireland team can handle even that😂.

    • @salemmurray711
      @salemmurray711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dannygray-mi3xnmight want to get that feeling checked...

    • @dannygray-mi3xn
      @dannygray-mi3xn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@salemmurray711 Oh Yeh, kiss this mate ;) Anyone but England? Check that pal

  • @oakey43
    @oakey43 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    GBR: (Alex every 5 mins) : a special word from our friends at Continental...British Airways...City Index... American Express... providing you with...connecting you to...blah de blah blah blah
    GBRA: (at the start) pop down and get yerself a Harvey Norman rug mate! 😂

    • @theaswift7215
      @theaswift7215 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely love GBRA/GBRAF! 😂

    • @evertog
      @evertog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like Joey Johns every time a try is scored, "Harvey Norman replay..."

  • @martinrees7412
    @martinrees7412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The same people who said Wales wouldn't qualify and Australia would...

  • @bulltraderpt
    @bulltraderpt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Apparently Farrell had a bust up with Arundel in France, hence why he currently is persona non grata in the England set up so rumour has it.

    • @wobblertv8083
      @wobblertv8083 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well that's Arundell fucked then shame that he's a English Shane Williams ....iv heard its pretty clique in that Squad .Ford and Farrell have got a lot influence on selection ....Shite

    • @mikec2505
      @mikec2505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Because Andy Goode says so?!! Give me a break.

    • @isitwasit8756
      @isitwasit8756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You've been watching rugby pod..which to be fair is much better than the one eyed biast shite tindal and Haskell serve upon this tosh

    • @patrickchilds2987
      @patrickchilds2987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Players have spats all the time in camp. What's special about this ?

    • @BenDavies-on4hr
      @BenDavies-on4hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mikec2505I think Andy Goode knows more than you

  • @marksellers665
    @marksellers665 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great. English toffs think Cymru Arg will be a tight game. That means Wales will smash it.

    • @isitwasit8756
      @isitwasit8756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The sheer nauseating arrogance of tindal and Haskell towards anything to do with Wales is something else.. this rugby pod is supposed to be all for supporting the home nations yet tindal especially couldn't have made it more obvious his dislike for Wales.. nothing but seething criticism and prior to Aussie game was actually wishing for an Aussie win against Wales on this show .. man's a 🔔end

    • @garethadams9610
      @garethadams9610 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is quite obvious. This channel is good, but it’s thinly veiled disdain for Wales is a big let down. I’m amazed Welsh players go on here.

  • @lukesimmonsfilm
    @lukesimmonsfilm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    PLEASE GET HASK TO PUT SOME TROUSERS ON

    • @ConradWalsh
      @ConradWalsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't !! It's fuckin' hilarious !!

    • @niallsheehan474
      @niallsheehan474 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConradWalshOrder some frillies for Hask

    • @MalcDavison
      @MalcDavison 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or at least wear a decent pair of underpants.....

    • @graemewilliams6697
      @graemewilliams6697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainly do not want to see him picking the spots on his backside.
      Dread to think what it looked like on a big screen in HD !!

  • @dominic7015
    @dominic7015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hask you know full well why Danny Care doesn’t have more Caps! He spoke up against EJs BS and he got cast aside… it’s a joke that Willie Heinz was considered a better option at the 2019 RWC. At the time Danny Care was the most Capped England no9, and he missed 3yrs of rugby as a result.

  • @elizehauptfleisch8233
    @elizehauptfleisch8233 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This podcast will never give real credit to South Africa.

    • @tonysa2337
      @tonysa2337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is true, but why does it matter. Just have a good laugh at their expence when the Springboks win the RWC, something they do at a higher rate than any other team.

    • @redhowell7856
      @redhowell7856 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Especially Tins - he's fully anti-Bok. I don't care if he's a "2% fat free" royal or whatever.. He gleefully bad-mouthed Boks just before the 2019 RWC Final (see Chasing the Sun) and continues to do so consistently. Poephol of note.

  • @jameswyatt4443
    @jameswyatt4443 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    France kicked the ball 44 times against NZ, South Africa 2 weeks prior, kicked the ball 26 times. But France play entertaining rugby? Okay. Watch the games, and not your agendas.

  • @ElijahMan2633
    @ElijahMan2633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    If Ireland win, then great. If France win, then great. I just hate when these pundits go Bok/All Black bashing. Respect these teams as they’re the most successful teams in the game.

    • @liamwilliams6651
      @liamwilliams6651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Northerners show way more respect than Southerners. France and Ireland are unbeaten and yet the mental gymnastics that Southern pundits are doing to justify their predictions for why SA and NZ will win on Saturday and Sunday is truly a sight to behold. Past triumphs don't matter if your team isn't good enough now.

    • @roberthutchison1561
      @roberthutchison1561 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@liamwilliams6651kinda disagree southerners have way more respect! You northerners especially England are the worse

    • @TheDandob1982
      @TheDandob1982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Who bashed them?

    • @nicduddy85
      @nicduddy85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@liamwilliams6651well said

    • @heinrichswanepoel6566
      @heinrichswanepoel6566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Please be here in the comments sections after Sunday night . That is all I'm saying

  • @kkor5849
    @kkor5849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My names Kurt Koroi with a radical idea that could be a good topic for discussion.
    If we switched the ruling for
    1. Every player is to wear a head gear to minimise the head knocking issues to a less severe outlook but then concentrate on the more severe tackles or head contact. And
    2. If we changed the rule to minimise or restrict every team to only 20 kicks in a match which would then speed up the game for the general viewing.
    Thoughts?

  • @SuperReasonable
    @SuperReasonable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    With Farrell I don’t think it’s because he comes from a league background, it’s because he’s lost his edge and Smith is not getting a look in with him being picked automatically. It’s a selection issue, not a background or commitment to England issue.

    • @ConradWalsh
      @ConradWalsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely.

    • @eleanorwilliams7771
      @eleanorwilliams7771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree but he has always taken a lot of flack even when he was playing at his best

    • @ConradWalsh
      @ConradWalsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eleanorwilliams7771 Which is senseless. Nevertheless, any genuine, respectful criticism of him now should not be conflated with the actions of idiots in the past. No one who genuinely cares about the state of English rugby would wish to be unkind to a player who has served the country well in the past, but is showing reason for real concern today. We've one chance to start correction against Fiji and it needs to be emphatic and without historical sentiment. If we don't (and should we wriggle past Fiji) we be ABSOLUTELY ANNHIALATED whomever we meet in the semi-final. Totally dismantled, and it'll set the National game back years. The time is NOW.

    • @maxjohnson3183
      @maxjohnson3183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Top players always take flack eg Richie,Ezabeth,Marx,and many more they play on the edge and are expected to be amazing every game

    • @evertog
      @evertog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's multifaceted. Partly it's his personality - it's hard for non-Irish to like Sexton, or non-Welsh to like Biggar for the same reason. They're ultra competitive, they wear their hearts on their sleeves and they're prepared to moan or wind people up and behave in a less than gentlemanly fashion in order to win. Not liking him for this is understandable.
      The tackling sticks in the craw for many, though I as a lover of physicality like it. It's made even worse because there are a fair few he got away with... not that it's his fault, but it has fuelled the conspiracy theorists.
      So add these legitimate, or potentially legitimate personal dislikes, and then amplify it to what Farrell represents to people: he's England's captain, and everyone in the world hates England. He's from RL, the pantomime villain for a lot of Union fans around the world. He plays for Saracens, who everyone loves to hate... and he's Northern which a lot of the southern toryboy England fans hate.
      He's the symbol for a lot of vitriol being sprayed from all corners of the globe. There's mass alzheimers from the people who think he can't play 12, or mass stupidity from those who think England's backline will be exciting with only one playmaker. There's mass bias from people who think he's responsible for England being boring (anyone watch England vs Japan with Ford kicking everything away?). There's bias from people who love either Ford or Smith and don't want Farrell at 10 or at all.

  • @ghotio1927
    @ghotio1927 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not sure you guys talked about England enough ....

  • @rugbybenji89
    @rugbybenji89 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think faz is getting some stick but the general gripe with England is the system overall. And that's down to the coaches. Arundell scores 5 tries and doesn't pick him? I'm a glocester fan and Johnny may is struggling. They need to take more risks with Smith Arundel Theo Dan all hungry players. Give them that chance to step up and the rest will follow.

    • @carpusbarsum
      @carpusbarsum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A fair comment. I subscribe to the Times, and the sheer vitriol about Farrell is something to behold. I actually think they'll beat Fiji comfortably. Hope I'm right.

  • @elduderino3236
    @elduderino3236 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What is it with Irish pundits with taking jabs at South Africa? I never hear it from the Irish fans. It's like all the pundits copy Ger Gilroy's notes on how to hate on the Boks. It's weird.

    • @rodwellchigome7567
      @rodwellchigome7567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Pundits. Have to harness their audiences. All my mates in Dubai are Irish, and as a South African, you can rest easy knowing that these pundits don't represent the masses.

  • @louisebroomfield1973
    @louisebroomfield1973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with Mike in respect to England team. We need to support the team good and bad times.

  • @bulltraderpt
    @bulltraderpt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No one is bullying him, it's that the TEAM, it's a TEAM game, seem to suffer when he plays in that position. Now I know it's the coaches fault for this. but he should be able to take people saying he ain't good for the TEAM in the position he plays Haskell you big oaf.

  • @ajmcdonald1415
    @ajmcdonald1415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Changing coach so close to WC aside, is the Borthwick style game what England want to play for the next four years?

    • @deadnicedave
      @deadnicedave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At a time when Club rugby and numbers playing are dwindling you would think they need an inspirer and a style that attracts ppl to the game, so in short no 😂Also no disrespect to Borthers but he's dreary as dreary as can be.

    • @shonunezekiel
      @shonunezekiel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The style is not necessarily that bad - but it is being executed so poorly, the team is making bad decisions on the pitch, not gelling as a team, and then making basic skill errors... definitely that is hard to watch as a supporter!

    • @robw7676
      @robw7676 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've got no enthusiasm for this England team.
      It's like a worse version of 2007 England.
      Borthwick should have been given license to start over. Farrell, Youngs, Vunipola, May & Tuilagi are all well past their best. Itoje is long off form and needs a reset. Daly seems to have grease on his hands.
      All of them should have been seen as surplus to requirements. England could have made it this far and on to the semis with a more dynamic team playing much more exciting rugby.

  • @hippo5346
    @hippo5346 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an England fan , its quite liberating to be able to look forward to some great matches this weekend without the stress of being among the favourites . Shane epitomised why the Celtic nations never do well at world cups - Lack of belief . Ireland have nothing to fear and I fully expect to see them in the final . I have a bad feeling that France will get bullied out of it , by SA . Hope I`m wrong , and we get the first ever all northern final .

    • @salemmurray711
      @salemmurray711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didnt age well.

    • @sagek69
      @sagek69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂 no NH final for YOU 😂

  • @HelloImDavid1000
    @HelloImDavid1000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t care about Farrell’s background, it’s his discipline that I take issue with.

  • @haggiesm
    @haggiesm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why are teams so often judged solely on their attack? The Springboks have arguably been the best defensive team for a long time, but they're constantly judged on their attack, which also is not the stereotype people can't seem to get over.

  • @annalouisekellett6207
    @annalouisekellett6207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Poor Haskell caught the bed bugs

  • @michaeltildesley537
    @michaeltildesley537 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very interesting but totally false premise about Owen Farrell. If your « class » point was correct why is AndyFarrell so revered? Nothing to do with social standing - it’s all about quality of play, and he’s not cutting it. Neither are many others, but please stop trying to gag comments on the England captain. He’s pretty crucial and he’s not cutting it. If class was the issue how do you account for so many other « working class » stars of English rugby’ both current and historic.

    • @ConradWalsh
      @ConradWalsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quite right, Sir. It's utter tosh.

  • @coatknight
    @coatknight 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will be interesting to see the next episode because those QFs were something else.

  • @johnjames6620
    @johnjames6620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watch GBR for amusement value. Comments like SA blaming the ref when we lose being an example of this. NZ blamed the ref in 2007 and poisoning in 1995. France blamed the ref in 1995. Then in 2023 we saw 4 teams blaming the ref: NZ, France, England and Argentina. We also saw England going to extreme lengths to defame Bongi and, unsurprisingly, GBR went to great lengths to defend Curry. I watch the Big Jim show and he provides a far more balanced approach. SA wins without IMPORTS. SA won in 2023 despite the fact that, in all fairness, the tournament should have been awarded to SA and this would have afforded us home-ground advantage.

  • @padraicpurcell6547
    @padraicpurcell6547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wales, Ireland, France and England to go through.

    • @Backpfeifengesicht45
      @Backpfeifengesicht45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you're right. The Ireland/NZ match is almost too close to call, but I think Ireland just nudge it. JUST.

    • @sagek69
      @sagek69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Backpfeifengesicht45hahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @johnjames6620
      @johnjames6620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got 1 right. Was there in NH bias or was your selection objective?

  • @reeld99
    @reeld99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    farrel wouldn't make any of the top 5 teams. Shouldn't even make England

  • @rodwellchigome7567
    @rodwellchigome7567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A repeat of the 2019 semis coming up after watching this podcast.

  • @daviddempster8717
    @daviddempster8717 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Talk it up🇿🇦

  • @christineclements4925
    @christineclements4925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hope South Africa proves you wrong! We are truly a rugby loving nation, not an arrogant one?? May the best team win!

    • @jamieoshea1681
      @jamieoshea1681 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      South Africa are both. It’s a shame

    • @johnjames6620
      @johnjames6620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamieoshea1681 What you don't take into account is that SA is constantly attacked and debased and we rightly respond to the attacks. It's that simple.

    • @jamieoshea1681
      @jamieoshea1681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnjames6620 everything you said couldn’t be more irrelevant. Go lay down .

    • @jamieoshea1681
      @jamieoshea1681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnjames6620 you’re attacked for the extreme arrogance. Lie better.

    • @johnjames6620
      @johnjames6620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamieoshea1681 You provide no facts, just attacks. I will give an example: Bongi was defamed by Tom Curry and South Africa justly came to his defense. You mention ignorance, well the attack showed ignorance on the part of Curry and the English media who failed to take into account that Bongi was speaking Afrikaans.

  • @MrVenom5150
    @MrVenom5150 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Loving Mike's cap👍

  • @paulbeswetherick4261
    @paulbeswetherick4261 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldnt agree more on Danny Care. Youngs seems to lift the ball, then step and pass making much easier to pressure the line. Care passes from the base faster.

  • @chasey2327
    @chasey2327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Arundell HAS to start v Fiji. He's got the same threat that Jason Robbo had.

    • @Acknetan
      @Acknetan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard he had a fallout with Farrell at training and they wont pick him because of that so dont think he will start utter bullshit if that's true

    • @chasey2327
      @chasey2327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Acknetan don't they want to win the friggin game? that's ridiculous and will only up the anti-farrell vitriol even more if they lose!

  • @ZO150ZO
    @ZO150ZO 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its so easy to sit on the couch + pick a team to win - come weekend to sort the conundrum

  • @peterweston189
    @peterweston189 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Horgan is right that the fact that the England team is so unstable at this stage of proceedings is ridiculous. As for Farrell, he has no business playing inside center. Just my opinion, but I don't think he's fast, big or skillful enough. If he has to play it's at 10, but I think Ford and Smith are better facilitators

  • @prof_kaos9341
    @prof_kaos9341 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ULTIMATE Quarter Finals Preview ...? Is there a part 2 or are Eng, Ire,Fra +Wales the only teams of any consequence? Maybe this is your Semi-Final show a week early?

  • @daynos
    @daynos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Farrell is all about gamesmanship and not sportsmanship, that’s why he’s hated. He’s an ambassador of football type of whining and harassing the ref on calls whilst play is going on far less when it’s stopped. You might say that’s his job as captain but he takes it far beyond others. Last World Cup he made a big show of being held around his neck in a maul so the ref would spot it. Many other moments like that and older rugby fans don’t want that coming into the game. If you pundits can’t see that then your bias has blinded you. I’m not from any country in the World Cup and have no horse in the race btw

    • @hammerhiem75
      @hammerhiem75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Farrell is a pussycat compaired to Bigger and Sexton lol
      Besides, i've seen multiple refs say he's a pleasure to ref so I think it's your Bias not the presenters at play here.

    • @hanoitripper1809
      @hanoitripper1809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Incorrect

    • @johnnypickles5256
      @johnnypickles5256 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was some serious crap you just commented

    • @chasey2327
      @chasey2327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      harassing the ref? that'll be BIGGAR you're talking about lad

    • @myshepspud1
      @myshepspud1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting your responses? I agree. In fact I put it delicately but these guys are delusional.. He acts like a pr**k. Not a great ambassador for English rugby. But then again, maybe. ;).

  • @drgjenkins4361
    @drgjenkins4361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Not too concerned with Welsh injuries. Part of a world cup, and Wales usually seem to not mind being branded with the 'injury' tag. SA have already lost a few (Marx, Mapimpi), Ireland lost one (Ryan), France quite a damn few. So I wouldn't allow that tag to stick, if it was me. What I am worried about, is the kicking ability and running ability of Argentina - that game is going to be sooooo close, in my opinion. I'd also be worried that the injuries are focused around number 10 (but not the number of injuries). If we lose both 10s, I think we will bump Halfpenny up to full back, and let him kick (which I would NOT mind, personally). But then Costello at 10 in a QF / Semi final is hugeeee.
    We will also see all teams go through another 80 minutes plus this weekend, so expected at least another 1 or 2 injuries - and now to key players given the starting lineups / concentration of 'big teams'. But, and I always forget this until it comes around, sometimes the WC really doesn't get started until the knock out stages - which is hard to believe given the amazing rugby already. What a tournament it has been. And shame on 6n / Rugby Championship for not allowing these 'smaller' teams in. Neglect increased support if you like, but at the disadvantage of the entire sport. Whilst football has its foot hard to the ground, and is expanding international competitions at every corner it can.

    • @skittles074
      @skittles074 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Biggars back, Costello on the bench apparently.

  • @pitaberaciri8366
    @pitaberaciri8366 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    England, France , Ireland , Wales through to semi final

  • @danglybit1
    @danglybit1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right about Danny boy!.. (fm Capetown) Great Hollywood duPont idea Ben...🤣

  • @hugomarx1324
    @hugomarx1324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Argentina gonna surprise everyone. Remember this comment

  • @gabefabe6706
    @gabefabe6706 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, the “Six +2 Nations” (I’ll leave it to others to create a natty title) could be loosely based on the (now abandoned) “15 Core + 1 Invitational” teams on the Sevens circuit.
    (1) 2 invitational teams (logically, Georgia & Portugal) take part in the competition.
    (2) To become a “Core”, an Invitational must finish in the top four (which would generally mean beating 3 Cores - which is a high enough bar to prove pretty conclusively that they deserve a seat at the top table).
    (3) If neither Invitational finishes in the top four, they are replaced the following year (by, presumably, the top two teams in a secondary competition)
    (4) If one Invitational finishes in the top four, they become Core for the following year with the other Invitational and the eighth-ranked team being replaced
    (5) If both Invitationals finish in the top four:
    (a) they both become Core for the following year, with the bottom two dropping out.
    (b) Alternatively, only the higher-ranked becomes Core, the other (plus the eighth-ranked team) dropping out.
    Maybe have a similar structure for the Rugby Championship, to include (to start, based on the RWC performance) Fiji & Japan
    Of course, unless the incumbents accept the principle of promotion/demotion from the 6N/RC, the whole idea is doomed…

  • @kiwimark3875
    @kiwimark3875 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This aged well :D

  • @rodwellchigome7567
    @rodwellchigome7567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    SA NZ final

    • @prof_kaos9341
      @prof_kaos9341 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who? The only teams of interest here are England, Ireland, France, Wales

  • @marymcgarry7985
    @marymcgarry7985 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From an Irish fan, I too hate how Owen Farrell is targeted so negatively and I’m so glad this was highlighted here.

    • @unclefester831
      @unclefester831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Win a game outside the pool stages first😂🤣 England should get knocked out too. Bye bye Ireland😂

  • @harrymcgeary2659
    @harrymcgeary2659 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    horgan is a great pundit

  • @unclefester831
    @unclefester831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mike Tindal at 1:03:24 “I want 4 home nations in the semifinals.” Wales knocked out👊🏻 Ireland knocked out👊🏻 😂🤣 The predictions on this mediocre podcast are horrendous😂🤣

  • @niallormond6972
    @niallormond6972 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think if france win and ireland lose, france massively jump by far favourites of the tournament , don't think any other results would result in such a big change in expected winners

  • @wilkinson83
    @wilkinson83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does the idea of picking Smith seem such a shock to some people, he is literally one of the most X Factor players we have in the England setup (alongside Arundel) Every time he gets a chance he is unbeliveable and either scores tries or creates tries and he has been doing this out of position at full back! If he had got a chance at 10 he would have been the best performing fly half for England by a mile.. Smith and Arundel are the most destructive attacking threats in the England squad and should be starting in their rightful positions. Playing players out of position is just counter productive and unacceptable especially at a WC. Play your most in form dangerous players in their positions, it is so simple yet SB makes it oh so difficult...

  • @icetroll734
    @icetroll734 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did you characters seriously ask why people would bully a bully? Farrell is well known for bullying. Why wouldn't people show him what it is like, in a more keyboardy, less mouthy/fisty way??

  • @paulbismuth10
    @paulbismuth10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They don't really know Portugal rugby, half of the players plays in France in Pro14 and Pro D2. And Lagisquet is a French international.

  • @tribalpeacock
    @tribalpeacock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bokke all the way🎉🎉🎉

  • @ConradWalsh
    @ConradWalsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Counting on experience is a good thing. The inability to recognise when a dog's had it's day is irresponsible. Respectfully remarking on this fact, and suggesting alternatives is what freedom of speech permits and encourages. It's pretty plain to see that Borthwick's approach is not instilling confidence but we DO HAVE the players in the squad who could ratchet the quality up, given the opportunity. Loyalty is an admirable quality of course, but let it obscure reality at your peril.

  • @welshknight1456
    @welshknight1456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have they placed the Eddie Jones Leadership book on the shelf for a joke. 😂

  • @carterpaul2688
    @carterpaul2688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It will be an all SH semifinal

  • @andrewcavenagh9016
    @andrewcavenagh9016 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't hold with personal abuse at all, but it's quite legitimate to point out Farrell's shortcomings as a player - notably a poor tackling technique that has consistently led to either a breach of the defensive line or the concession of penalties .

  • @theroogie
    @theroogie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shane Horgan saying that he prefers French rugby over the springboks style of rugby is a ridiculous comment. The French team have based their game off the spring 2019 team and kicks more than any other team. They have similar styles so throw that one out the window

  • @matthall6743
    @matthall6743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Think you’ve all forgotten about the number of tests in the starting line up. Think it’s over 800 and possibly 900. Stop and think about that

  • @jasonwall5012
    @jasonwall5012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    8:40 no what needs to happen is, the team in the 6 Nations who gets the wodden spoon, does a 1 game or a 3 game series against the winner of the European rugby championship, for relegation/promotion. The winner gets the 6 Nations and loser gets European rugby championship.

    • @plebius
      @plebius 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might sound great, but let's be honest. Rugby in the northern hemisphere is pretty rough at the moment. England coming into this was at an all time low. Financial issues at numerous clubs. Wales the same, with players not getting paid and a loss of loads of contracts. Italy has been having serious issues too, with clubs being wound up and new ones taking their place. If they were to be relegated, any of them, and I include Ireland and Scotland in this. It might be the death blow to the sport in those countries. In which rugby is not in the top sports of any of them. It's also historical. The roots of this home nation's cup. That then expanded to include France in 1910. You just can't kick them out, as they built it to what it is now. If you're looking to add teams, it has to be expansion. Maybe have a play off for the spots, a knock out tournament. I know I would watch it.

    • @jasonwall5012
      @jasonwall5012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@plebius​ firstly, rugby 8n the Northern hemisphere is growing nicely, just issues in Wales and England, that doesn't count as the whole Northern hemisphere. Secondly, did you miss the part where I said, a play-off series? If you're good enough to win a 3 game series, then you're good enough to play in the 6 nations. The reafor a threat of relegation/ promotion, is what is needed, " WHY you may ask?, well when you watch the 6 Nations, 4th, 5th and 6th spots don't care at the end of the 6 nations. Now if you had a threat of having to play in a 3 game play-off series, for relegation and promotion, than you will play hard till the end. This in turn will create better and stronger competition, also give a route for the European rugby championship clubs, a rout to the 6 Nations, and give something for them tonplay for. That in hand will make them improve.

  • @gregoryg4512
    @gregoryg4512 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James...... bit too much showing pal ..... trying to eat my dinner here ! 😂

  • @Wizard-kk4lz
    @Wizard-kk4lz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a South African and love Faz. BUT he is a number 10, not 12. Can he slot a drop goal though? Never seen him do that, and unfortunately it might require a Jonny to progress...

  • @mariusmarais9750
    @mariusmarais9750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry Ireland, Sorry France, Sorry Wales, ....Sorry Northern Hemisphere,
    The time is here to school England properly!
    Asb. Bokke - Dis nou Game Plan A - gaan en gaan fok hulle goed op die Saterdag!

  • @NeilRedburn
    @NeilRedburn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nah, it's not....about his background, or his media presence....we, as England fans, feel he's past his best, isn't as inventive, can be a liability, and there are better options. It's not personal.

  • @davidwilliams5325
    @davidwilliams5325 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great idea Shane. Big bill?.

  • @maluakamu6120
    @maluakamu6120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great picks especially the NZ one 😂😂😂😂

  • @seansayer7684
    @seansayer7684 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one mentioned the cap???

  • @alangrove2642
    @alangrove2642 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible effort by all concerned to try and find a positive from that England performance. If any of the panel had managed to pull it off, it would've been the turnover of the tournament.

    • @usurp4892
      @usurp4892 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately always been a bit of an embarrassing pro England / RFU line up. They try and involve the likes of Horgan and Kayser to give some breadth bit you can't get away from them being the no.1 Eddie fan club with the poshest English bloke presenting with two former England players and one current meaning you'll never get the slatings England have deserved.
      Go to the Rugby Pod with Goodey and Big Jim for some honesty and much less cringe commercial partnerships. Fair play though, Tindall needs the money doesn't he 😂

    • @alangrove2642
      @alangrove2642 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@usurp4892 I reckon The Breakdown with Mils, Wilson and Kirwan takes the title for most blatantly pro. They love their All Blacks…

  • @Britalex
    @Britalex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haskell, those shorts are utterly offensive.

  • @johncraig9011
    @johncraig9011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly don't see how France can beat the Boks, if game is reffed fairly. Pollard will play, not only will kicking at poles be better but Polly gives the Boks more options. Hope they find place for Marco v Staaden in the run on team

    • @loki_of_earth
      @loki_of_earth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the opposite for me. Can't see SA beat France. We will know soon.

  • @shaunbainbridge1584
    @shaunbainbridge1584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Carlisle lad , it’s nothing to to do with this Northerner rubbish regarding Owen. For me he’s not playing his best and hasn’t for a while, he got banned prior to the World Cup, got timed out on his kick and GF is playing better. To top it off we are playing players out of position to accommodate him. Will Owen regain his form? Not sure. I don’t think England can wait to find out now we’re in the knockout stages

    • @elainesteel2582
      @elainesteel2582 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice to see Carlisle voice rep. True Northern lad.

    • @ConradWalsh
      @ConradWalsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elainesteel2582 ...and unbiased, & bang on the money.

    • @hammerhiem75
      @hammerhiem75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of the England 10's won the league last season, Was man of the match in both the Semi final and Final and was nominated for Player of the season, and he name isn't a make or a car.
      In May Farrell was "In the form of his Life" now after 1 game at 10 he's "Not Playing well and hasn't for a while"? pull the other one.

    • @shaunbainbridge1584
      @shaunbainbridge1584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hammerhiem75 a lot of people will say that Smith is brilliant for Quins but not an international player. Owen’s form has been good for Saracen’s but in the last six nations he was below par and his kick percentage was awful. He may get back to his best, he may not. He’s not our form 10 at the moment. I prefer to see us play our lads in the correct position ie a genuine inside centre at inside centre not an out of form 10. I believe we can win it but that would mean playing the kids to play with genuine attacking pace. Shoving it up the jumper and wayward kicking just won’t do it.

    • @hammerhiem75
      @hammerhiem75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shaunbainbridge1584 You say that but the two games he played 10 we played well, scoring 5 tries against Italy and beating Wales in Wales and awy in Ireland when we were holding them until the BS Red card killed the game.
      They put Smith at 10 against Scotland (and he personally cost us 2 tries with his abject refusal to tackle) France (Boy that went well)
      there was NOTHING wrong with England's form with Farrell at 10 and it all went to shit went Smith was at 10.

  • @robertwhalley882
    @robertwhalley882 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    About Farrell, its not about Farrell actually, its about coaches who make him captain when he lacks the in game leadership skills and by playing him out of position so he is set up to get all this crap. His lack of leadership capability manifests itself in almost every game by his petulance, with his lack of awareness at critical times, by seeing red and by not having the mental dexterity to change the game plan in response to whats happening in a game. Lets take the Samoa game, his interactions with Brace embarrassing, his overrunning the shot clock, and by running the same attacking plays even though Samoa had clearly worked them out and on top of that he looked totally pedestrian in the 12 jersey. None of this is inherently his fault, if he was reigned in by a strong captain and played at 10 we would probably all be a lot happier with him.

    • @patrickchilds2987
      @patrickchilds2987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't know Farrell but I'm not sure his leadership roles have been an issue for England or his club
      As for petulance, I haven't noticed him being more petulant than other #10s or captains . Is Farrell any different from Sexton ,Russell or Bigger ?
      I can't think of a single starting England player who had a good game so why the knives are out for Farrell yet the others are seemingly getting a pass I have no idea.
      Personaly I like all the England #10s Gord, Farrell and Smiyh and am not that fussed which start or are on bench.
      England's performances have nothing to do with who is playing at #10. Currently they are about our forwards who are struggling at the breakdown can't carry and can't provide quick ball. Until that is fixed and the forwards can secure and provide quality ball then who plays at # 10 is irrelevant .

    • @BenDavies-on4hr
      @BenDavies-on4hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickchilds2987Owen Farrell is shit mate 😂😭😁

    • @carpusbarsum
      @carpusbarsum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blah blah blah.....

    • @henryb160
      @henryb160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "About Farrell, its not about Farrell actually...." and then you go on to write another 150 words about Farrell! We get it. You're just another troll with a hate fetish for Farrell.

  • @matthall6743
    @matthall6743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New Zealand that is

  • @chichim2020
    @chichim2020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think a realistic option is for the tier 2 European nations to get friendlies against the Six Nations before the tournament starts. Yes it means an extra game, but I do think the countries could do with a warm up anyway.

    • @thibautmerlin2376
      @thibautmerlin2376 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure the clubs will agree having one additional day without their main players.

    • @chichim2020
      @chichim2020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thibautmerlin2376 True but I think some of them have done that already. The international rugby calendar is too packed though I agree.

  • @danielticehurst-kg6zt
    @danielticehurst-kg6zt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agree on the early negative and unwarranted flak Farrell attracts yet, as Captain, isn't he responsible for standing up and resolving the problems in there being no gameplan re: selection, no joy and collective spirit? Are not these things he can challenge the team's coach? Or does he treat Borthwick in the same way as Borthwick appears to treat him?

  • @jacquesdutoit7373
    @jacquesdutoit7373 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hask do you still think Eddy should have stayed with England?

  • @13muzza
    @13muzza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horgan down playing Irelands chances against NZ and trying to make the Irish underdogs, who is he trying to kid?

  • @danielhurley4814
    @danielhurley4814 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was a unique pressure when you were involved shaggy not this this team.. should be a great game.

  • @scubasausage
    @scubasausage 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Farrell deserves stick for that penalty clock garbage. That is unacceptable at test level.

    • @peterweston189
      @peterweston189 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he kicked that penalty, England would likely have been 4 points up. And not vulnerable to a penalty or drop goal..... stupid and incompetent

  • @unusg1
    @unusg1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A plea/ request. Please, please, please please no close up of Haskell on the sofa in his shorts. 25:53 onwards it looks like he is wearing grey budgie smugglers. We don’t deserve this.

  • @BruceMacgregorCampbell
    @BruceMacgregorCampbell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ja well no fine.

  • @Noker127
    @Noker127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shane you're a nervous Nelly, Ireland win with something to spare

  • @jacodupreez3221
    @jacodupreez3221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Farrel issue is purely selection. You think any opposition would fear Farrel running at pace compared to a Manu Tuilagi? As ex players it boggles my mind that you blokes are so incompetent on what you are supposed to be experts at

    • @patrickchilds2987
      @patrickchilds2987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It boggles the rest of us why you think the role of a #12 is just to make runs ? Farrell has ever been considered as a running #12 . He never has. Shane Horgan explaining quite clearly Farrells success and strengths as a secondary playmaker and distributing .#12 .
      Perhaps you should try actually listening before opening your big mouth and talking kak

  • @liamwilliams6651
    @liamwilliams6651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They'd rather Ireland over France? Well Shane your expert analysis truly amazes. Wonder how France were gonna be able to get NZ in a QF when they're in the same group.

  • @DM-rp9ik
    @DM-rp9ik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honesty are they still sayings England has good players

  • @Noker127
    @Noker127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ireland are to good for the AB's. win by 10

    • @danglybit1
      @danglybit1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think so too...but Wayne Barnes is the ref.

    • @Noker127
      @Noker127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danglybit1

  • @RowanPringle
    @RowanPringle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh well chaps…in general that aged badly 😂

  • @DavidLowe46
    @DavidLowe46 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eddie took over Lancasters team and won a grand slam; after that nothing . Key member of Jones/ Borthwick team has been Farrell and they have got progressively worse. He is great for Sarries but has produced for England. And he can’t tackle!

  • @davidbroadley2983
    @davidbroadley2983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Portugal just brilliant.
    As for Owen Farrell. The inversion of fact and fiction that runs across the world and the UK. The so called liberals are the issue. If British values return along with critical thinking and commonsense the nonsense spouted about Owen Farrell will disappear.
    Nigel Owens comments on OF are the correct ones to be heard. He has the utmost respect as do I.

  • @d.jparer5184
    @d.jparer5184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i don't think adding 2 teams to the six nations will make it a more enjoyable experience for the fans. the competition is not for the benefit of tier two nations, its for 6 western european nations. lets not devalue our product so that tonga and georgia can do better at world cups.

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree, and it hasn't worked for Italy, been in the 6N for 23 years, won about 6 games in that time and they have been really poor this world cup. Leave the 6Ns alone.

    • @davidwalker2402
      @davidwalker2402 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think its that rugby will be better world wide, it used to be the 4 nations until France joined and then became 6 nations when Italy joined . Each time this tournament improved, it went forward, so there is no reason it cannot continue to improve. It’s time rugby stopped the whole “elite-isim” there are lots of very small poor countries playing international soccer and this sport grows every year.

    • @d.jparer5184
      @d.jparer5184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidwalker2402 that's amazing, you think it's elitist to want to maintain the quality of the six nations 🤣 Adding France was a no brainer and you can"t argue that Italy have improved the tournament. I'm ok with it because it evens out the number of teams but they are a cut and a half below the rest and the other teams in the 6n still treat Italy as a team we should be beating. What happens when it becomes the 12 nations? Or the 24? It'll be twice as long and half as good, viewing figures will drop massively and all prestige would disappear from winning it. It is not the fault of tier 1 nations that tier 2 nations aren't as good at rugby as us. I'm not against helping out but we shouldn't be willing to massively dilute the six nations on the off chance that some of these teams will give us a better game in 20 years time.

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sorry but that's nonsense@@davidwalker2402

    • @davidwalker2402
      @davidwalker2402 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@d.jparer5184 oh like football went downhill when they had 4 divisions and then the premiership, don’t be so ridiculous , did FIFA fall apart when they allowed 32 teams into the World Cup , did the Masters golf fall apart when they made that more inclusive or Wimbledon or the Olympic. Such a jaundiced view you have of your beloved Rugby. Get down of your high horse there’s nothing special up there 😂😂

  • @davidr5597
    @davidr5597 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I sincerely hope the typical Irish over-confidence doesn't come back and bite them in the ar$e like it traditionally has. This weekend will be fun however it goes!

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Typical Irish over-confidence? 😂😂😂😂

    • @giddygiddy85
      @giddygiddy85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Typical Irish over confidence??? What are you talking about. 😂😂😂 We're literally famous for being pessimistic 😂

  • @TheDandob1982
    @TheDandob1982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The abuse isn’t about class. It’s a mixture of Xenophobia, hypocrisy, keyboard warriors and jealousy.

    • @therealmrfishpaste
      @therealmrfishpaste 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Farrell makes for a good pantomime villain...he comes across quite aloof and arrogant, he cheats a bit, but is also very good....

    • @TheDandob1982
      @TheDandob1982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therealmrfishpaste Cheats?

    • @therealmrfishpaste
      @therealmrfishpaste 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDandob1982 Throws in the odd armless tackle at key moments in the game....don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the guy...and a lot of players cheat a bit....but it adds to the whole pantomime villain profile....Or perhaps put it this way. He wouldn't be a pantomime villain if he was arrogant, very good, but very clean; nor would he be a pantomime villain if he was very good and cheated but came across as humble and genuine (like McCaw)...nor would anyone care about him if he was arrogant dirty and a useless rugby player....so the fact that he has all three characteristics makes him a perfect target.

    • @TheDandob1982
      @TheDandob1982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therealmrfishpaste Poor tackling technique isn’t cheating, he’s had one red card in the international stage and the action he took didn’t give England any advantage. Cheating suggests premeditation with a goal of gaining an unfair advantage.
      Honestly, if you think he isn’t humble, you really don’t know anything about the guy. Do a bit of research and I guarantee you’ll change your mind. Look at the Nigel Owens incident with Farrell, look at his charity work. He’s with his childhood sweetheart and raising a young family. He’s never in the tabloids for the wrong reasons. Take a step back.

    • @therealmrfishpaste
      @therealmrfishpaste 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDandob1982 I chose my words carefully...he 'comes across as arrogant and aloof'....so much like Schalk Burger, who was a bastard on the field and gentleman off it....and Nick White, who, is an aggravating irritation on the field, but a really nice guy off it...Farrell's on field demeanor comes across as arrogant and aggravating, so for those who don't know him off the field, that's all they see.
      And as far as cheating goes...I remember two consecutive test matches (against SA and AUS) where Farrell did match saving no arms tackles that were certainly deliberate....so deliberate foul play in order to win a game is pretty close to the definition of cheating
      But don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the guy, I'm just trying to detail the factors that make it easy for him to be portrayed as a bad guy.

  • @Westyend
    @Westyend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    try in the first minute for Ireland was possibly blocking. should have gone to the TMO. but wouldn't have changed the ultimate result. Match up between Ire and NZ is mouthwatering,

  • @RowanPringle
    @RowanPringle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New Zealand 🇳🇿 Argentina 🇦🇷 South Africa 🇿🇦 England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 😂Southern Hemisphere rugby BAU

  • @Lucaf_2008
    @Lucaf_2008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Owen gets shit because he has been treated differently when he's gone high - which he has done many times - it's not a class issue

  • @garrycorcoran2934
    @garrycorcoran2934 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ire could buddy up with eng so😅😅

  • @Oakeybloke
    @Oakeybloke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horgan, what a load of nonsense - 'a class thing'?! I come from as poor a background as you can think of, a lot worse off than poor little Owen, and I've given sh*t about his selection & performances.
    We don't like that he keeps getting selected, keeps f-ing things up in defence (apparently his strength), his attacking is always so slow anyway, even his kicking wasn't all there. All while others, like Ford, are performing brilliantly and still get taken off early instead of Farrell.
    His silence is filled by the view of his performance, if you want to be more accurate, and if he doesn't like being treated like a twat by the public then try being open and/or nice to the the public... Mind blown 🤯😂