Did Kurt actually say that? In what interview, where? He would have gotten hell from Courtney for that for sure. He may have felt that way about Kristen but it is one of those things that seems more conjecture on people's part than anything known as fact.
I remember hearing that Kurt said that to a friend, i think Dylan, who reveled that after Kristen's death; or something like that. Anyways, its kind of suspicous because i don think that he would have a kinf of affair with Kristen when he was in a serious relationship with Courtney.
Dylan seems like a somewhat shady person. I agree with you. I don't think Kurt was having an affair with Kristen. He may have had feelings for her though. She was talented and smart and despite her drug problems probably a more grounded person than Courtney.
darksideof theamericandream Okay, so, I think it is possible this could be her voice on this track. After listening to her on recordings of her radio appearance, her voice was a lot deeper, but it is possibly this was either heightened in pitch or that she was singing this way to get a little hint of "twee pop" in there. Pretty sure she loved beat happening and stuff like that, just like Kurt. Either way, whether this is her or not, I'm pretty convinced that she wrote most of the material that made 'Live Through This" since no other Hole record went as far as that one did. (I was told)Courtney didn't even play guitar on stage, I'm under the impression that she didn't fucking know how to play guitar very well at all! Not that I'm trying to say I'm all for egoic showoff guitarists. I just appreciate real talent , as opposed to fake talent, which is just a forged fallacy created by popularity and the image of a person being a famous celebrity, and yet a rebel grunge queen, because plastic surgery and glamourizing poison & death is so politically righteous. I think I am getting ahead of myself here. Just need to say that I feel C.L. did not have even an increment of the talent that Kristen had. But I won't rant (I will try not to) anymore about Courtney. Other than the notion that C.L. may have had Kurt & Kris (as well as whoever else) killed, this isn't about here and the subject of her should be obsolete. You can all have your personal opinions about your favorite Hole album, but the factual part of it is that 'Live Thru This" was the one that sold, it was the female counterpart to 'Nevermind' during that era, the platinum record is hanging on the wall in a studio somewhere near where I live, I won't say who owns it out of the little bit of respect I have for that person, but before this sentence runs on any longer, the point is, Kristen fucking made this shit. Kristen died not because she was some 'sad junkie' who needed a way out, she died for everything she believed in. It was 1994. Those were not easy times in the world at all. I wouldn't even want her to see what the world looks like today.
@@TVLuke15 I'd bet it is her on this recorded demo. She is credited on multiple songs on Live Through This as back up vocals (of course bass as well, and piano on some songs) where Courtney sings the heavy tone and Kristen sings the lighter more angelic tone, some songs Kristen sings heavier w/ Courtney. I've heard her sing different ranges, instrumentally and vocally talented, a musical prodigy.
"All of my life I wanted be something. I guess now that I am, I don't want to be." - Kristen Pfaff. I highly encourage people to read the book her mom wrote, Unfinished Rhapsody. It has so many passages and interviews from Kristen herself, she was extremely intelligent, brave and passionate. She was deeply unhappy in Seattle, she never fit in with anyone except Kurt, with whom she had daily 4-5 hour long conversations over the phone. The same day Kurt was found dead she went into rehab and decided to leave Seattle and Hole for good, despite the fact that her contract still required her to tour with Hole that summer. She had all of her belongings in a U-Haul outside her Seattle apartment, ready to leave for her home in Minneapolis, but she was found dead next morning from an overdose which could have been prevented.
I saw her once with Hole, and I was in LOVE WITH HER!!! I remember thinking she was the hottest girl in rock. Then to hear about how intelligent she was and what a help she was to soooo many people raising awareness to abused women. She would have been a superstar.
This is one of the most beautiful songs I've heard. How'd you like to see Madonna? How you'd like to meet Madonna? How you'd like to be Madonna? I'd rather die Oh, I'd rather die How'd you like to be a rock star? How'd you like to join Nirvana? I'd rather die Oh, I'd rather die
Udday69 She was / is an angel. I'm not even religious but I agree and believe this wholeheartedly. There were times I was using drugs, smoking a blunt one day for example.. there was no wind whatsoever but the spliff just flew out of my hands into Hoyt lake. To me that is Kristen playfully saying 'hey nephew, lay the fuck off that stuff' ; )
I also had a psychopathic "friend" or two in the past that would psychologically abuse and manipulate me by ridiculing and berating anything I would say about Kristen floating around somewhere in the cosmic heavens as energy. Sometimes I am just trying to be poetic. But apparently any supernatural belief is a mental illness. I am so angry. Aaron, if you're reading this, I hate you, I'm so mad and always will be for how you have treated my friends & I. Aaron you're not who you used to be and you need to stop threatening people and acting like a messiah with the answer to everything. Aaron Davis, I hope you seek some real help that you so desperately need.
*“She’s a fucking talented musician, she’s also a beautiful soul. I think she’s so beautiful, but if I ever told her that, and Courtney found out, it would be hell.”* *- Kurt Cobain*
Kristen had such a beautiful voice and a talented musician I miss her very much, Went to Forest Lawn Cemetery 7 months ago in Buffalo New York to pay my respects to her. RIP Kristen you are not Forgotten.
Kristen was beautiful, i had a huge crush on her back in the 90s..🙏🏻💯 she was brilliant. I love her bass playing. I miss her. Hole was a great band. 👍🏻🎸
@@irotac Nope the extra ticket was due to a system error at the airport, he only actually bought one ticket. They weren't having an affair, that'a just a silly rumour. Just like how stupid the murder conspiracy theory is
Chicken Nugget well El Duce must be a great liar because he took a lie detector test saying Courtney offered him 50 g to kill Kurt then he told Allen Wrench and Allen Wrench killed Kurt.
I cried when I heard this song. It shows that both Kristen and Kurt and so many other rock stars had everything anyone could wish for, money, fame, but that wasn't enough. #RIPkristen #RIPKurt
I both love Kristen Pfaff and Melissa Auf der Maur, but of course you won't ever forget the first one who left so soon without even saying goodbye. ='(
Actually, you can! Listen to "Doll Parts". With that song, Courtney makes you feel her anger, but Kirsten will make your heart ache. Trust me dude, in that song, Kirsten really stands her own. VERY cool
She has such a magnetic energy, if she only had more time. Imagine how famous she would be today. I think there definitely would have been a Kristen Pfaff solo album. ⭐️🖤⭐️
Kristen stopped doing drugs immediately after Kurts death and entered a detox center. Minnesota Nightly May 10, 1994: "Im having a really great time doing the things Im doing now. Getting back with my friends and playing music together which I really missed. I couldnt get going in Seattle because the local scene was so stagnant. After being asked about Kurts death Kristen responded: "That boy broke my heart."
What about the rest of the quote? 'On the first anniversary of her enlistment in Hole, Kristen Pfaff reflects on her experience of near-stardom with a newfound wisdom. "I was so naive", she says. "I wouldn't trade any of it for anything, because I know a lot more now than I did a year ago. I know a lot about the business and what it does to people". She softens. "I mean, Kurt is a primary example, He broke my heart, you know". The Nightly, May 19, 1994 by Simon Peter Groebner. She was talking about what happened TO Kurt, not her feelings fro Kurt.
Pretty close. She was in Europe the entire month of May and half of June for the Janitor Joe/Hammerhead tour. She contracted Cellulitis in Feb 94 from injections. Eric called Janet who flew out to Seattle and sent Kristen to Hazelden Rehab in Minnesota in mid Feb
YES! Thank you so much for uploading this and the great pictures/videos of her as well, we don't get to see enough of her... its a shame really because she was very talented and very beautiful.
Or if she had escaped that toxic (figuratively and literally) environment, as she was within hours of doing. It will never be completely clear that she was going to join Kurt, and I don't know if it's disrespectful/tasteless to speculate like this, but imagine if they both got away, Kurt got custody of Frances in the impending divorce, Kristen was back with the band that made her happy and healthy, Kurt could become the Johnny Cash-like figure he talked about... and Frances could have a lovely stepmom. Sigh. Justice for the two of them!
Or had she lived just a few hours longer, and escaped from that horrible environment. Even before that- was one of Kurt's plane tickets for her? Imagine if they had both gotten away, the divorce went through, Kurt got custody of Frances and went off to make the music he wanted to make as a Johnny Cash-like figure. Kristen could be back with the band that made her happy and healthy... and Frances could have a lovely stepmom.
Even if it wasn't an intentional murder (and it could have been), delivering drugs to an addict in recovery is a disgusting thing to do, even if she had requested "one more for the road."
I just got "this" album, never heard 70% of the other songs, but I hit play, and listened to it all - Thought it was odd that Rock Star was mainly about being from Olympia, so did research and found what we all know here, that it was switched, so dug more and found that Kristen did the vocals on this track as well... I think they should have left it in with Kristen's vocals as it was the last song on the album, and would have contrasted Courtney's screaming on a lot of the other tracks well... but damn would it have been a bitter sweet sendoff considering the dark madness and hell that happened right after
Courtney's version IS Kristen's version. I'm sure she had a lot more input on that album than people realise. She apparently came up with the chorus to Miss World.
Doesn't it strike any of you as odd that Kristen died shortly after Kurt? That pages of her diary were missing? That Courtney was in the apartment the morning of her death? Those who knew Kristen say she was digusted with Courtney. They were not best friends.
Kristen grew up in my hometown outside buffalo New York I am a bass player and really think she was a great talent she is a self taught musician who was in college and was kinda at the right place at the right time and got in with hole ....rip Kristen
1. Kristen was about the leave Courtney permanently when she was found dead (like Kurt). 2. The last person to see Kristen alive was Eric Erlandson, who knows why or by whom he was sent to see her? 3. She had spoken to friends in Minneapolis the evening of her death and was very excited to be leaving Seattle. 4. Her autopsy was performed by the same doctor who performed the autopsy on Cobain, and was a close friend of Courtney’s. 5. Members of Hole have changed their stories many times in the press regarding the circumstances of Kristen’s death. 6. None of the members of Hole, save for Patty Schemel, have ever expressed sincere sorrow or loss over Kristen’s death. As her father said, “It could have been that Kristen died or someone missed a bus." 7. Kristen was NOT a member of Hole at the time of her death, despite reports in the media and statements from Geffen records that stated otherwise. 8. Kristen had feared some kind of consequence as a result of her decision to leave; "Courtney’s scary. If I take a hike, she’ll make me look bad or do something to make my life miserable."
2. He was probably there to deliver the drugs that killed her. Even *if* she had requested "one more for the road," and we don't know that she did, bringing drugs to an addict in recovery is absolutely reprehensible. Relapses are so so easy with heroin. Love and/or Erlandson knew this, and they knew that she had been clean for months. Was the heroin spiked with something? Was that even necessary? Was this delivery one of the "stupid mistakes" that Erlandson has referred to, which resulted in deaths? 5. I've seen this, but are these conflicting statements all collected somewhere? There's also the quote from Courtney: "You fuck my guitar player, constantly make eyes at my husband, and now you're telling me how to sing. Just don't fuck with me because you'll regret it forever." I'm not sure if that quote is confirmed, but if so, it's remarkable. There's also the matter of Kristen's diary having pages removed that coincide with the period around Kurt's death, and Eric causing a scene at the funeral (none of the band members were supposed to attend). I want to listen to "Live Through This" and the one song on "My Body the Hand Grenade" on which she plays, and watch the video for "Violet" and all the relevant live footage, all as a way to honor Kristen, but I don't want to listen to/watch Courtney and Eric.
Stop it. None of the people who knew either of them personally think there was any foul play. It’s just insane fans and your idiotic theories. Get a hobby.
also he was still obsessed with her having tried to get back with her a long time and he reportedly went on her private funeral uninvited and not welcomed by the family and leaned over the coffin and shouted i love you that dude was crazy and absolutely under courtneys control
"She's a fucking talented musician, she's also a beautiful soul. I think she's so beautiful...."-Kurt Cobain
Justice ForKurtC i am ao curious when did he say that?
Did Kurt actually say that? In what interview, where? He would have gotten hell from Courtney for that for sure. He may have felt that way about Kristen but it is one of those things that seems more conjecture on people's part than anything known as fact.
I remember hearing that Kurt said that to a friend, i think Dylan, who reveled that after Kristen's death; or something like that. Anyways, its kind of suspicous because i don think that he would have a kinf of affair with Kristen when he was in a serious relationship with Courtney.
Dylan seems like a somewhat shady person. I agree with you. I don't think Kurt was having an affair with Kristen. He may have had feelings for her though. She was talented and smart and despite her drug problems probably a more grounded person than Courtney.
From Kurt Cobain to Courtney Harrison: "I will make myself miserable to make you happy."
Kristen had such a beautiful voice. This sounds so angelic.
darksideof theamericandream Okay, so,
I think it is possible this could be her voice on this track. After listening to her on recordings of her radio appearance, her voice was a lot deeper, but it is possibly this was either heightened in pitch or that she was singing this way to get a little hint of "twee pop" in there. Pretty sure she loved beat happening and stuff like that, just like Kurt.
Either way, whether this is her or not, I'm pretty convinced that she wrote most of the material that made 'Live Through This" since no other Hole record went as far as that one did. (I was told)Courtney didn't even play guitar on stage, I'm under the impression that she didn't fucking know how to play guitar very well at all! Not that I'm trying to say I'm all for egoic showoff guitarists. I just appreciate real talent , as opposed to fake talent, which is just a forged fallacy created by popularity and the image of a person being a famous celebrity, and yet a rebel grunge queen, because plastic surgery and glamourizing poison & death is so politically righteous. I think I am getting ahead of myself here.
Just need to say that I feel C.L. did not have even an increment of the talent that Kristen had. But I won't rant (I will try not to) anymore about Courtney. Other than the notion that C.L. may have had Kurt & Kris (as well as whoever else) killed, this isn't about here and the subject of her should be obsolete.
You can all have your personal opinions about your favorite Hole album, but the factual part of it is that 'Live Thru This" was the one that sold, it was the female counterpart to 'Nevermind' during that era, the platinum record is hanging on the wall in a studio somewhere near where I live, I won't say who owns it out of the little bit of respect I have for that person, but before this sentence runs on any longer, the point is, Kristen fucking made this shit. Kristen died not because she was some 'sad junkie' who needed a way out, she died for everything she believed in. It was 1994. Those were not easy times in the world at all. I wouldn't even want her to see what the world looks like today.
@@TVLuke15 I'd bet it is her on this recorded demo. She is credited on multiple songs on Live Through This as back up vocals (of course bass as well, and piano on some songs) where Courtney sings the heavy tone and Kristen sings the lighter more angelic tone, some songs Kristen sings heavier w/ Courtney. I've heard her sing different ranges, instrumentally and vocally talented, a musical prodigy.
Exactly!!! That's funny your comment made me think of France's singing too. Both angelic! That's the best word to describe Kristens voice, thanks😄
@@TVLuke15 you said it all except the part where I read your mind..
I'm grateful we made it out alive.
Miracles🖤♠️🖤
This isn’t Kristen or Courtney singing.
"All of my life I wanted be something. I guess now that I am, I don't want to be." - Kristen Pfaff.
I highly encourage people to read the book her mom wrote, Unfinished Rhapsody. It has so many passages and interviews from Kristen herself, she was extremely intelligent, brave and passionate. She was deeply unhappy in Seattle, she never fit in with anyone except Kurt, with whom she had daily 4-5 hour long conversations over the phone. The same day Kurt was found dead she went into rehab and decided to leave Seattle and Hole for good, despite the fact that her contract still required her to tour with Hole that summer. She had all of her belongings in a U-Haul outside her Seattle apartment, ready to leave for her home in Minneapolis, but she was found dead next morning from an overdose which could have been prevented.
She was killed
Yes. Kurt and Kristen were both murdered. Along with Detective Antonio Terry.
@@jfromstate8581absolutely. Eric and Courtney are evil masterminds.
This is very interesting I never know this well I'm only 2 years old when she past away😢
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I saw her once with Hole, and I was in LOVE WITH HER!!! I remember thinking she was the hottest girl in rock. Then to hear about how intelligent she was and what a help she was to soooo many people raising awareness to abused women. She would have been a superstar.
This is one of the most beautiful songs I've heard.
How'd you like to see Madonna?
How you'd like to meet Madonna?
How you'd like to be Madonna?
I'd rather die
Oh, I'd rather die
How'd you like to be a rock star?
How'd you like to join Nirvana?
I'd rather die
Oh, I'd rather die
BrokenSocialScene23 She sings, "How'd you like to join Nirvana? I'd rather not.... Unlike when Courtney sang it and said I'd rather die.
"how'd you like to move into my house......~" ... that change and verse she threw in is a bit odd, too. could be about the media, or.... kristen?
Clever lyrics
Yikes
@KillOud Yes.
Wait a minute, that's Kirsten's voice?! She sounds so sweet!
It's not
@@twentyarmsthen who is it?
@@bradpity Tobi Vail
God this song is so haunting. Died only 2 months after Kurt. Her last days are so damn fishy
Yeah, it is a strange story there at the end.
I will always love Kristen, she was an angel :-)
Udday69 She was / is an angel. I'm not even religious but I agree and believe this wholeheartedly. There were times I was using drugs, smoking a blunt one day for example.. there was no wind whatsoever but the spliff just flew out of my hands into Hoyt lake. To me that is Kristen playfully saying 'hey nephew, lay the fuck off that stuff' ; )
I also had a psychopathic "friend" or two in the past that would psychologically abuse and manipulate me by ridiculing and berating anything I would say about Kristen floating around somewhere in the cosmic heavens as energy. Sometimes I am just trying to be poetic. But apparently any supernatural belief is a mental illness. I am so angry. Aaron, if you're reading this, I hate you, I'm so mad and always will be for how you have treated my friends & I. Aaron you're not who you used to be and you need to stop threatening people and acting like a messiah with the answer to everything. Aaron Davis, I hope you seek some real help that you so desperately need.
@@TVLuke15 She indeed is still out there as energy. I think she still is around you for sure.
*“She’s a fucking talented musician, she’s also a beautiful soul. I think she’s so beautiful, but if I ever told her that, and Courtney found out, it would be hell.”*
*- Kurt Cobain*
do u know where he said that?
@@suvi7325 he said it to his friend Dylan Carlson
@@suvi7325 I think they made it up lol
"I think I just sharted."
- Kurt Cobain
@@myemodiaries901 Kurt allegedly said that to Dylan Carlson, as reported by Ian Halperin & Max Wallace, among others.
I would go back in time and meet her.
Same here. Frankly, I would love to go see her today, had she survived just a few hours longer, and escaped from that awful environment.
Kristen had such a beautiful voice and a talented musician I miss her very much, Went to Forest Lawn Cemetery 7 months ago in Buffalo New York to pay my respects to her. RIP Kristen you are not Forgotten.
Kristen was beautiful, i had a huge crush on her back in the 90s..🙏🏻💯 she was brilliant. I love her bass playing. I miss her. Hole was a great band. 👍🏻🎸
It's funny... They both died in the same year, both knew Courtney, both did heroin, both died at 27, and both died in Seattle W.A
Ya so funny. Wow your so insightful
And yet you don't see the connection between Kurt's death, Kristen's death, and Courtney's insanity?? Think about it
@@irotac Nope the extra ticket was due to a system error at the airport, he only actually bought one ticket. They weren't having an affair, that'a just a silly rumour. Just like how stupid the murder conspiracy theory is
Chicken Nugget well El Duce must be a great liar because he took a lie detector test saying Courtney offered him 50 g to kill Kurt then he told Allen Wrench and Allen Wrench killed Kurt.
It's not a coincidence!
Omg what a voice
Kristen we miss you so much. I hope you are in heaven with Kurt and other nice people. I wish you well. :-)
I cried when I heard this song. It shows that both Kristen and Kurt and so many other rock stars had everything anyone could wish for, money, fame, but that wasn't enough. #RIPkristen #RIPKurt
Heroin a is a hell of a drug.
Rest easy angel. You left this world 29 years ago today & it’s never been the same since. I hope you and Kurt are finally smiling
I both love Kristen Pfaff and Melissa Auf der Maur, but of course you won't ever forget the first one who left so soon without even saying goodbye. ='(
She has such a beautiful voice
She was really cool and such a badass bassist.
She was a really talented bassist and singer. R.I.P Angel
kRISTEN will always inspire me, and hopefully other female bassists!
The only reason I love this is because Kristen is in it...and she looks so.beautiful, as usual!!
Well said Patricia..Kristen was something else💔
Actually, you can! Listen to "Doll Parts". With that song, Courtney makes you feel her anger, but Kirsten will make your heart ache. Trust me dude, in that song, Kirsten really stands her own. VERY cool
most beautiful girl ever miss you
She has such a magnetic energy, if she only had more time. Imagine how famous she would be today. I think there definitely would have been a Kristen Pfaff solo album. ⭐️🖤⭐️
Man the 90’s really were something else. Some of the greatest musicians came out of that decade.
Wow she's gorgeous and a angelic voice 😍🙂😗
Went and saw her grave today... RIP
That must be a sombre experience.
A beautiful spirit.
Kristen stopped doing drugs immediately after Kurts death and entered a detox center.
Minnesota Nightly May 10, 1994: "Im having a really great time doing the things Im doing now. Getting back with my friends and playing music together which I really missed. I couldnt get going in Seattle because the local scene was so stagnant.
After being asked about Kurts death Kristen responded: "That boy broke my heart."
Justice for Kristen!
What about the rest of the quote? 'On the first anniversary of her enlistment in Hole, Kristen Pfaff reflects on her experience of near-stardom with a newfound wisdom. "I was so naive", she says. "I wouldn't trade any of it for anything, because I know a lot more now than I did a year ago. I know a lot about the business and what it does to people". She softens. "I mean, Kurt is a primary example, He broke my heart, you know". The Nightly, May 19, 1994 by Simon Peter Groebner. She was talking about what happened TO Kurt, not her feelings fro Kurt.
Pretty close. She was in Europe the entire month of May and half of June for the Janitor Joe/Hammerhead tour. She contracted Cellulitis in Feb 94 from injections. Eric called Janet who flew out to Seattle and sent Kristen to Hazelden Rehab in Minnesota in mid Feb
Wish the 90s never went away.
honestly most of the 90's sucked, after 94 for sure it all took a dive,, i wish we could go back to the 80's now that was fun.
I will always Love you 😍 Kristen
Your such an angel 😇
You have such a beautiful voice RIP 🪦 Kristen
her voice is so beautiful
She was / is so pretty with a very pretty voice . RIP but you and your music live forever .
YES! Thank you so much for uploading this and the great pictures/videos of her as well, we don't get to see enough of her... its a shame really because she was very talented and very beautiful.
Imagine what Kristen would have become if she had never met Courtney and Eric.
Or if she had escaped that toxic (figuratively and literally) environment, as she was within hours of doing. It will never be completely clear that she was going to join Kurt, and I don't know if it's disrespectful/tasteless to speculate like this, but imagine if they both got away, Kurt got custody of Frances in the impending divorce, Kristen was back with the band that made her happy and healthy, Kurt could become the Johnny Cash-like figure he talked about... and Frances could have a lovely stepmom. Sigh. Justice for the two of them!
Or had she lived just a few hours longer, and escaped from that horrible environment. Even before that- was one of Kurt's plane tickets for her? Imagine if they had both gotten away, the divorce went through, Kurt got custody of Frances and went off to make the music he wanted to make as a Johnny Cash-like figure. Kristen could be back with the band that made her happy and healthy... and Frances could have a lovely stepmom.
She would still be alive
Kristen may have some happy times while she was a member of the band Hole but in many pictures, she looked unhappy.
Indeed, she looks miserable.
Today exactly 28 years ago June 16 196 , she left us !☮️ such devastating lost R I P although 2024 , she still in our hearts 💕
It was 30 years ago that Kristen Died...1994 😢
Love her little voice
Love and miss Kristen.
Kristen will always be my muse. Thanks so very much for this gem. 🙏🎶 ❤🎸🎙
The guitar is everything
It sounds to me like she's having fun with the verse chord progression to the then recently released "Cherub Rock".
I miss her so much. She was a great bassist.
Justice for Kristen
Even if it wasn't an intentional murder (and it could have been), delivering drugs to an addict in recovery is a disgusting thing to do, even if she had requested "one more for the road."
Damn right.
My favorite bassist. Thank you for making this video
This was such a beautiful tribute! Sad to see talent like this guy too soon. Thanks for sharing
beautiful video you're posted here - thanks for sharing! ~The27s
no wonder she had background vocals. she sounds like an angel
Kristen Pfaff was so beautiful..
We love you Kristen.
i love her so much
RIP Kristen. 15th June 2020
We need the whole song!
0:30,
Kristen looks damn good in that dress.
I just got "this" album, never heard 70% of the other songs, but I hit play, and listened to it all - Thought it was odd that Rock Star was mainly about being from Olympia, so did research and found what we all know here, that it was switched, so dug more and found that Kristen did the vocals on this track as well... I think they should have left it in with Kristen's vocals as it was the last song on the album, and would have contrasted Courtney's screaming on a lot of the other tracks well... but damn would it have been a bitter sweet sendoff considering the dark madness and hell that happened right after
R.I.P Kristen ❤️ this is so much better then Courtney’s version.
Courtney's version IS Kristen's version. I'm sure she had a lot more input on that album than people realise. She apparently came up with the chorus to Miss World.
Doesn't it strike any of you as odd that Kristen died shortly after Kurt? That pages of her diary were missing? That Courtney was in the apartment the morning of her death? Those who knew Kristen say she was digusted with Courtney. They were not best friends.
This is the best version. Kristin Pfaff was taken way too soon.
So beautiful...
Kristen grew up in my hometown outside buffalo New York I am a bass player and really think she was a great talent she is a self taught musician who was in college and was kinda at the right place at the right time and got in with hole ....rip Kristen
She was classically trained.
@@scottcharney1091 classically trained on the piano but self taught bass guitarist
Damn, I wish so many of these great artist were still alive. True artists suffer.
Very good compilation video.
this is so beautiful and sad , i love you kristen
From the Black n white thick pix to the fat heeled shoes.,...this brought me back.
She was so beautiful
such a great song
Kristen was the best person ever to be on Hole!
Lovely.
thanks man
she is so badass and beautiful
Que hermosa que era
Love her!
Murdered.
1. Kristen was about the leave Courtney permanently when she was found dead (like Kurt).
2. The last person to see Kristen alive was Eric Erlandson, who knows why or by whom he was sent to see her?
3. She had spoken to friends in Minneapolis the evening of her death and was very excited to be leaving Seattle.
4. Her autopsy was performed by the same doctor who performed the autopsy on Cobain, and was a close friend of Courtney’s.
5. Members of Hole have changed their stories many times in the press regarding the circumstances of Kristen’s death.
6. None of the members of Hole, save for Patty Schemel, have ever expressed sincere sorrow or loss over Kristen’s death. As her father said, “It could have been that Kristen died or someone missed a bus."
7. Kristen was NOT a member of Hole at the time of her death, despite reports in the media and statements from Geffen records that stated otherwise.
8. Kristen had feared some kind of consequence as a result of her decision to leave; "Courtney’s scary. If I take a hike, she’ll make me look bad or do something to make my life miserable."
2. He was probably there to deliver the drugs that killed her. Even *if* she had requested "one more for the road," and we don't know that she did, bringing drugs to an addict in recovery is absolutely reprehensible. Relapses are so so easy with heroin. Love and/or Erlandson knew this, and they knew that she had been clean for months. Was the heroin spiked with something? Was that even necessary? Was this delivery one of the "stupid mistakes" that Erlandson has referred to, which resulted in deaths?
5. I've seen this, but are these conflicting statements all collected somewhere?
There's also the quote from Courtney: "You fuck my guitar player, constantly make eyes at my husband, and now you're telling me how to sing. Just don't fuck with me because you'll regret it forever." I'm not sure if that quote is confirmed, but if so, it's remarkable. There's also the matter of Kristen's diary having pages removed that coincide with the period around Kurt's death, and Eric causing a scene at the funeral (none of the band members were supposed to attend).
I want to listen to "Live Through This" and the one song on "My Body the Hand Grenade" on which she plays, and watch the video for "Violet" and all the relevant live footage, all as a way to honor Kristen, but I don't want to listen to/watch Courtney and Eric.
Stop it. None of the people who knew either of them personally think there was any foul play. It’s just insane fans and your idiotic theories. Get a hobby.
also he was still obsessed with her having tried to get back with her a long time
and he reportedly went on her private funeral uninvited and not welcomed by the family and leaned over the coffin and shouted i love you
that dude was crazy and absolutely under courtneys control
Not sure why thats a competition, Melissa is very talented and stepped in only when Kristen passed away.
wow, that was beautiful.
It's fantastic...
I wish she wouldve gone solo or hade started her band. I miss her sweet angelic voice
Jason Uriel she i think had one called Janitor Joe or Janitor Uncle
They say she was going to do just that, but just before she could leave Hole she died..
rest in peace angel
she was so beautiful. RIP.
angel 💖💔💖
If this is really Kristen then it’s just proves she wrote this song
I’d rather die. Yeah. She did.
Rest in peace Kristen.
This is a really nice song.
Hopefully there is more from her
@garfrain i think this was a back up vocal track that was to be mixed in with the courtneys lead at some point. thats probably why its so soft
Yes it is
Kristen and also Mia zapata were best things out of grunge to bad the haters stopped them
i miss her. its weird though, because i never met her
she is beautiful
great stuff. 5 stars
love the kristen video rip kristen we love u
If Kurt had gone solo or started a new band I bet he would have gave her a call.
They were known to talk on the phone for hours.
00.38 seconds=pepperoni dress
This is so sad. Poor girl, she was so so so much more talented than the C word. (sigh)
Can anyone direct me to more of her stuff I get the feeling she was the Bronx live through this
Search TH-cam for Janitor Joe
all hail kristen
omg never seen this vid is so awsome