Out of the box . I put a couple drops of oil in it , loaded it with 2 3/4in x #8 shot , 1200 fps , and it's kicked butt with out a hitch . Skeet , dove , and 3in x #2 steel for geese .
UPDATE: I have had ZERO issues with my GF1. No failures at all. I took mine new from the box, took it down, cleaned it then put on fresh Remington gun oil on the vital areas. Loaded with 2.75 and 3" shells and had one heck of a fun day at the range. Guess it pays to read the user manual and follow the manufacturer / importers instructions and use appropriate ammo. I cannot wait to get back on the range with mine.
Thanks for the informative video and honest review on our GF1 shotgun. As noted in your comments, we recommend using 1300FPS or higher velocity ammunition on this firearm.
@Sven3xs You cannot legally import firearms from Turkey with longer tubes. It simply is the way it is right now. We are working on aftermarket parts. Stay tuned and thanks for your comments.
Here is an idea, how about making the threads on these magazine tubes the same as popular shotguns, like Mossberg, Benelli, etc. We can cut off a roll at the end of the tube, but making proprietary threads is just stupid! All the Benelli clones do this, soo this seems a NO BRAINER, and makes any "excuses" for extensions not being an option, just that "an excuse".
I have the Citadel Boss Hog version of this gun, it was on sale for $200 and then add a military discount of $40, it came to $160 plus tax out the door. First and foremost, when you take it home, disassemble it and clean everything, then lubricate every moving part, I also added a 8 round tube extension, so now it's a 8+1 gun. When I reassembled it, I twisted the return spring to loosen it up a bit, also make sure you feel for any rough spots on anything that moves in the gun and sand it down. Brought several boxes of high velocity ammo with me to break this thing in, before loading it, I sprayed some CLP into the chamber, and away we went. After what I believed was enough ammo going through it to break it in, I loaded 1200 fps ammo and it fired no problem, then some 1150 fps ammo and fired no problem. Took it home cleaned it again and has been firing with no issues since. I was fully aware the issues people were having with this gun, doing some maintenance before shooting it goes a long ways.
Just got this Shotgun in today ... Went to the Range and ran 50 rounds Monarch 1350 fps #8 rounds And dropped down to 25 rounds Winchester 1200 fps #8 this GF1 is a great Shotgun ... Had ZERO Malfunction ... Thank you for this video .
I picked up a Turkish shotgun at Bud's Gun Shop in Lexington, Kentucky; a Linberta 01LSTAC, 12 ga. It had an M-16 style carry handle receiver with a really nice looking carbon-fiber-like finish (black barrel & mag tube), heavy duty tactical sights, 5 chokes, a shell bandoleer belt, and was very reasonably priced. I ran a "junk yard" of shells through it - slugs, high brass shot of all numbers, low brass field loads, mixtures of all configurations, and I couldn't MAKE IT jam for anything! I liked it so much I went back and bought another one with a flat top receiver. I left one in stock configuration. On the flat top version, I added a shell carrier and mag tube extension and a Blue Force sling. It just didn't need anything else. These scatterguns are the best kept secret in "run anything" autoloader shotguns. Funny thing was, I was Mossberg shopping for a 930SPX at the time. I think I came out better with the Linberta. *Note: This particular Turkish made scattergun required a Remington mag extension. I had to remove 2 threads off the factory mag because the end was crimped to capture the spring.
@nihahane I added the extension tube on mine and it does not reliably load or unload shells. I cut the mag tube clean. Polished with dremel and mirror finished with flitz and it still wont cycle. I put my regular cap back on and called it a loss...
I have 2 Black Aces S Max. 7 shot 12 gauge. Both run any shot, any brass, low or high. Break in with 50 rounds of buckshot. Complete degrease and lube before shooting is recommended. Turkish guns are generally decent for the money.
Saw some of these last night at my local Cabelas. I have never seen new semi-auto shotguns as low cost as these before. I had to look at them 3 times to make sure I was looking at what I thought I was looking at. Had sortof the same reaction first time I saw the price on a High Point pistol. Made me wonder if something was wrong with it..lol.
I have the citadel warthog version and yes I was having the same issues right out of the box but the more o shoot the more the better it got. It is definitely a gun that requires a bit of a break in period for it to start running reliably. I also ordered a magazine extension for it so I will have a 8+1 capacity.
@@dirtywaterzoso8917 google fed arms but if you want one they sent me two by accident so if you like to buy it from me up direct message on Instagram @white_lightning_challenger
Thanks to your three budget shotgun video today and your link tree I was able to buy this shotgun for $199. Thanks for the great deal! I'll probably cut a coil of the spring like you did so I can shoot low brass at targets and clays. A new spring cannot cost that much if I decide to shoot high brass through it. Either way, not to worried about it as it is a $199 shotgun.
Check out the Stoeger M3000. Got mine to start 3gun and it runs better than all 3 of my buddy's benellis. And from what I heard, stoeger is a sister company of benellis, so uses some of the same parts. I've never had any feeding or ejection issues. 👍
@@travismacaluso2957 - Thanks for the info There is also supposed to be a complete Benelli copy made in Turkey, the T4, for about $800. I have 20-ga scattered around for defence now instead of 12: a Shockwave, 500, and Stevens 320, all with #1 buck
Benelli's are great but overpriced IMO... i personally think some of the cheaper options are just as good. I don't blame you for not wanting to spend that much money on a benelli. I have one that I bought second hand and hot a decent deal on it but I wouldn't say that its any better than my Mossberg 930. These are just my opinions and I'm no expert.
Before going past the intro, I'm going to guess that the stove pipe issues are due to you needing either high brass shells or a more powerful load... 🤔 Also, I'm pretty sure the reason for the short tubes is due to import requirements.
I’ve been trying to find some decent information on this shotgun about what parts may be compatible. I would imagine it is a cheap clone of an existing design and would like to try to find some accessories or upgrades I could put on mine.
I have the Citadel version, runs great. Took it squirrel hunting. The manual says it needs atleast 1300 fps rounds to cycle properly. I used 1290 fps, cycled fine.
@@decentrik almost the same gun, internals are a tad bit different, gforce has a better mag feeder and mag tube is different but thats about it, as for aftermarket parts, yeah you have to legit saw off part of the mag tube to extend it lol
best affordable semi shotty is the Stoeger M3k... it uses an inertia system very similar (a direct copy) to benelli's system. It does require about 100 rnds of high brass buckshot to break in the spring; but after that, it will shoot even the weakest birdshot no problem...
@@inglockwetrust6805 TKS Sir. We get such a hatters club of boo hoo's Yes it can feel like a brick but that brick works 24/7. These days ammo can't be wasted til a box of 9mm gets under 15$ a box.. Next Glock will be the 43x with those steel mags that hold 15 rds. Good luck on the quest of ammo and safety. Until this Tyrant is out of office!!!
@digduck2020 compared to the beretta or Benelli it definitely is more affordable... guess the term "affordable" is based on what the individual can afford based on their individual finances... hope things get better for you chief...
The majority of semi-auto shotgun will not run low brass But that's why there is Buckshot and slugs for a reason and that's what you're going to use it a defense Situation anyway
hey I used to have an escort shotgun built in Turkey it was the semi-automatic the first 20 rounds I put through it jammed every shot that was a mixture of high brass and low brass the guy in the booth next to me told me he could fix it we unscrewed it got down to the recoil spring and he twisted it backwards after he did that I probably ran close to a thousand rounds do that shotgun and never had a another Jam or stove pipe the rest of the time I owned it
I've heard that this gun will work better if when you get it you lock the bolt open and leave it that way for a few days before going to the range. Doing so loosens up the bolt so that it will cycle with lighter loads.
On my RIA lion x4. I left the bolt locked back for over a week before I actually shot it and I’ve ran everything I could find thru it with out problems.
I haven't even made it through the into yet, but all the stoppages and the note that it'll only run the hot stuff just kinda makes me wonder why they even sell this. There are so many other good semi-auto shotties out there that will damn near anything you feed them. This is a huge miss for GForce
I was reading through the manual I got with mine the other day. It’s my first semi auto shotgun so I figured I’d read up on it. The amount of typos and grammatical errors is worrying.
I wish you had broken the shotgun down, would like to have seen the gas system. This gun looks just like an ASI Ultra max shotgun. I have one of those, they were clearanced out at $150.00. Mine took a long break in, and still occasionally gives a double feed.
When your life depends on choosing the right ammo always choose high brass buckshot or slugs! This is not a dove gun so as long as you are good with that this shotgun is awesome especially at the price!
Hi this is probably the same gun as my Iver Johnson HP18 semi-auto, I'd love to see a trigger group removal video! 🙂 I'm having a light strike issue 3 times so far, 55 shells through it, it did cycle the last 25, minus the 3 light strikes though, see you on MeWe!
I own this G force semi auto but I have a pistol grip, I use very heavy shells and I have no problem. If you use lighter ammo there is not enough blowback pressure to properly clear the chamber or the used shells.
Aside from all the drama, there are things you can actually do which don't require a whole lot of effort and time to stop that from happening with this shotgun when it's brand new. Yes, I have one.
Hello Friend! I want to know what magazine extensions will work with this shotgun as that is important to alot of people interested in a defensive shotgun
How about ACTUALLY field stripping these guns so we can see the gas/recoil/bolt system? Lack of such makes these kind of half assed reviews. just saying
If anyone knows anything about semiauto shotty's 98% of them don't like low velocity low brass rounds. Inherently the gas system needs more balls (hence) putting 87 octane in a high performance car 93 is preferred. That said this gun is very reasonable priced.
Agree wholeheartedly. I think the firearm public in general is still somewhat ignorant regarding the specifics of a semi auto shotgun as compared to a pump action shotgun.
My Citadel Warthog (same gun, different importer) runs flawlessly with anything at 1300 fps or more. Anything less and it chokes. Mine is the lightest kicking shotgun I've ever shot.
I’ve owned one of these for 2 1/2 years and every time I’ve shot it the shells either get stuck or the buttstock gets loose and I have to go in and tighten it after every time I shoot it
This is just a Citidel Warthog.... not made for birdshot. Need something that uses a faster and cleaner burning powder, like titewad, and not BP equivalent. Low brass or high brass doesn't matter
Black ace tactical pro s max is a little bit more expensive I got mine for like 369 from PSA. haven’t had any feed issues minus the first day ran it raw Dog on a sub 400 dollar gun it’s expected lol.. She has ran flawlessly ever since, have around 1400 rounds through the gun doesn’t really like the shitty Winchester white box but still cycled it ok. Seriously the third best semi scatter I’ve shot behind of course the Beneli M4 and Beretta 1301. Those things are in a league of their own and dang near triple the price. Best reliable bang for your buck semi on the market. Only downside is no rail for an optic but it’s a shotgun that’s ok
Instead of cutting the Spring, I would have measured the Gasport. And then bore it out two thousands. And then keep going one thousands at a time till it functions reliably
I picked one of these up new recently for about $220 OTD. I notice on yours the bolt release button is vertical, while on mine it is horizontal. I wonder if that matters. I really have to fight with mine to get it release the bolt.
You clipped a coil off of the action spring? Bc I can only get 1250 FPS shells. I’m to the point where I’d rather just shoot trap with my pump shotgun. It’s a manual semi auto
I just got this beauty, i just have to pick it up when i have time. Im wanting to change the stock on it though. Do you know if you have to remove the trigger system? or is it just the straight up stock when you remove the bolt in the back?
I got one from PSA for $199, I picked up a T3 adjustable stock and a 10 shot tube extension, clipped a single coil off of the spring and it runs like a champ. I do wonder if that spring could be a problem down the road, though.
I got my gf1 in today have not shot it yet but upon taking it apart cleaning it I question the quality the finish is very easy to scratch and the barrel feels like it made of porcelain.lol well see
I bought mine for home defense.I keep mine loaded with 3 inch magnum no6 turkey loads for.home defense.The last load 00buck.I did install an extended 7rd.mag tube on mine
Gotta break it in with at least a couple hundred hot loads before you can use the lighter loads.. I did and it shoots flawless anybloads now... patience...break it in. .
I have a Tristar that I broke in with high brass, 25 rounds or so, runs everything now long as 1 ounce shot and up, 300 dollar shotgun, Tristar Raptor, will probably be fine after a little break in
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Update **** GFORCE SAYS THESE SHOTSGUNS WONT RUN ANYTHING UNDER 1300 FPS ****
If a firearm can't shoot anything? Isn't reliable. Useless!!!
Thanks for showing the issues, not just making a gun vid where everything looks perfect.
@@RafaelGarcia-jk4bz Choot much? Most semi-autos will fail to cycle with low powered shells.
That's funny..... considering the several different brands of target/bird shot are rated for 1290fps....🤣🤦♂️
My trap club REQUIRES 1200 fps or less. Gigantic no go
Out of the box . I put a couple drops of oil in it , loaded it with 2 3/4in x #8 shot , 1200 fps , and it's kicked butt with out a hitch . Skeet , dove , and 3in x #2 steel for geese .
UPDATE: I have had ZERO issues with my GF1. No failures at all. I took mine new from the box, took it down, cleaned it then put on fresh Remington gun oil on the vital areas. Loaded with 2.75 and 3" shells and had one heck of a fun day at the range. Guess it pays to read the user manual and follow the manufacturer / importers instructions and use appropriate ammo. I cannot wait to get back on the range with mine.
Can the stock be changed out?
it’s most likely the ammunition he is using
Thanks for the informative video and honest review on our GF1 shotgun. As noted in your comments, we recommend using 1300FPS or higher velocity ammunition on this firearm.
@Sven3xs You cannot legally import firearms from Turkey with longer tubes. It simply is the way it is right now. We are working on aftermarket parts. Stay tuned and thanks for your comments.
Here is an idea, how about making the threads on these magazine tubes the same as popular shotguns, like Mossberg, Benelli, etc. We can cut off a roll at the end of the tube, but making proprietary threads is just stupid! All the Benelli clones do this, soo this seems a NO BRAINER, and makes any "excuses" for extensions not being an option, just that "an excuse".
@Sven3xs there is a magazine tube extention, check it out on my channel!
@@GforceArms where can I find tube extensions for your pump shotgun?
@@darktrojan00 Our shotguns are not currently compatible with tube extensions.
I have the Citadel Boss Hog version of this gun, it was on sale for $200 and then add a military discount of $40, it came to $160 plus tax out the door.
First and foremost, when you take it home, disassemble it and clean everything, then lubricate every moving part, I also added a 8 round tube extension, so now it's a 8+1 gun.
When I reassembled it, I twisted the return spring to loosen it up a bit, also make sure you feel for any rough spots on anything that moves in the gun and sand it down.
Brought several boxes of high velocity ammo with me to break this thing in, before loading it, I sprayed some CLP into the chamber, and away we went.
After what I believed was enough ammo going through it to break it in, I loaded 1200 fps ammo and it fired no problem, then some 1150 fps ammo and fired no problem.
Took it home cleaned it again and has been firing with no issues since.
I was fully aware the issues people were having with this gun, doing some maintenance before shooting it goes a long ways.
Just got this Shotgun in today ... Went to the Range and ran 50 rounds Monarch 1350 fps #8 rounds And dropped down to 25 rounds Winchester 1200 fps #8 this GF1 is a great Shotgun ... Had ZERO Malfunction ... Thank you for this video .
Thank you for the info!
I picked up a Turkish shotgun at Bud's Gun Shop in Lexington, Kentucky; a Linberta 01LSTAC, 12 ga. It had an M-16 style carry handle receiver with a really nice looking carbon-fiber-like finish (black barrel & mag tube), heavy duty tactical sights, 5 chokes, a shell bandoleer belt, and was very reasonably priced. I ran a "junk yard" of shells through it - slugs, high brass shot of all numbers, low brass field loads, mixtures of all configurations, and I couldn't MAKE IT jam for anything! I liked it so much I went back and bought another one with a flat top receiver. I left one in stock configuration. On the flat top version, I added a shell carrier and mag tube extension and a Blue Force sling. It just didn't need anything else. These scatterguns are the best kept secret in "run anything" autoloader shotguns. Funny thing was, I was Mossberg shopping for a 930SPX at the time. I think I came out better with the Linberta.
*Note: This particular Turkish made scattergun required a Remington mag extension. I had to remove 2 threads off the factory mag because the end was crimped to capture the spring.
I kept my bolt locked back overnight and made sure the mag tube cap was screwed on tight and it never jammed with low brass.
I had the same issue, left the bolt locked back for a month and its much better.
How is it now
Update?
Picked up one today palmetto had them for $179 I had a discount got it for around 160. Should be great for a beater gun
Was there a discount code?
@@dalemyers9045 No Code its on their website on clearance. They have a pump and semi-auto G-Force both around $150-$180 each
I purchased a Citadel that's the same thing this GForce is for $179 at rural king, broke in after 25 rounds of number 4 duck loads.
@nihahane I added the extension tube on mine and it does not reliably load or unload shells. I cut the mag tube clean. Polished with dremel and mirror finished with flitz and it still wont cycle. I put my regular cap back on and called it a loss...
Semi auto with manual ejection
I have 2 Black Aces S Max. 7 shot 12 gauge. Both run any shot, any brass, low or high. Break in with 50 rounds of buckshot. Complete degrease and lube before shooting is recommended. Turkish guns are generally decent for the money.
Saw some of these last night at my local Cabelas. I have never seen new semi-auto shotguns as low cost as these before. I had to look at them 3 times to make sure I was looking at what I thought I was looking at. Had sortof the same reaction first time I saw the price on a High Point pistol. Made me wonder if something was wrong with it..lol.
What was the price?
I have the citadel warthog version and yes I was having the same issues right out of the box but the more o shoot the more the better it got. It is definitely a gun that requires a bit of a break in period for it to start running reliably. I also ordered a magazine extension for it so I will have a 8+1 capacity.
Where did you get the extension? I’ve read you can use one for the 870, but I’ve not seen anyone who actually has it.
Which extension did you use?
@@dirtywaterzoso8917 google fed arms but if you want one they sent me two by accident so if you like to buy it from me up direct message on Instagram @white_lightning_challenger
Thanks to your three budget shotgun video today and your link tree I was able to buy this shotgun for $199. Thanks for the great deal! I'll probably cut a coil of the spring like you did so I can shoot low brass at targets and clays. A new spring cannot cost that much if I decide to shoot high brass through it. Either way, not to worried about it as it is a $199 shotgun.
Nice it was super easy
Just lock the bolt back for a couple weeks.
@@704TACTICAL did u ever get it broken in and running good??
Thanks for the review. Reliability is still why I prefer pump-action. And I am too cheap to buy a Benelli ;)
Many cheap Turkish shotguns that are very reliable
Check out the Stoeger M3000. Got mine to start 3gun and it runs better than all 3 of my buddy's benellis. And from what I heard, stoeger is a sister company of benellis, so uses some of the same parts. I've never had any feeding or ejection issues. 👍
@@travismacaluso2957 - Thanks for the info There is also supposed to be a complete Benelli copy made in Turkey, the T4, for about $800. I have 20-ga scattered around for defence now instead of 12: a Shockwave, 500, and Stevens 320, all with #1 buck
Benelli's are great but overpriced IMO... i personally think some of the cheaper options are just as good. I don't blame you for not wanting to spend that much money on a benelli. I have one that I bought second hand and hot a decent deal on it but I wouldn't say that its any better than my Mossberg 930. These are just my opinions and I'm no expert.
I hear ya. I was always the same way. If you have a second, check out my post. It may not change your mind, but it also may give you pause.
Shout out from Zebulon, NC. I love this channel.
Before going past the intro, I'm going to guess that the stove pipe issues are due to you needing either high brass shells or a more powerful load... 🤔
Also, I'm pretty sure the reason for the short tubes is due to import requirements.
He said a more powerful load... lmao
I’ve been trying to find some decent information on this shotgun about what parts may be compatible. I would imagine it is a cheap clone of an existing design and would like to try to find some accessories or upgrades I could put on mine.
Benelli chokes
I have the Citadel version, runs great. Took it squirrel hunting. The manual says it needs atleast 1300 fps rounds to cycle properly. I used 1290 fps, cycled fine.
That shotgun looks almost identical to the citadel offering. But have heard that the citadel is much more reliable right out of the box
Its the same gun lol! I own a GFORCE shotgun. Its great over all but it has no aftermarket parts which sucks. You gotta modify alot stuff to fit on it
@@decentrik almost the same gun, internals are a tad bit different, gforce has a better mag feeder and mag tube is different but thats about it, as for aftermarket parts, yeah you have to legit saw off part of the mag tube to extend it lol
Shop around me has them on sale for 150 getting one just because
I have a Typhoon F12 and a Mossberg 930 and they all need high brass.
Great review, my manual says 1300 fps minimum loads. Agree it gets expensive . Broke mine in with 1450 fps loads.
My local gun store has one of these, thinking about picking it up.
that "music" is very distracting and takes away from your video
best affordable semi shotty is the Stoeger M3k... it uses an inertia system very similar (a direct copy) to benelli's system. It does require about 100 rnds of high brass buckshot to break in the spring; but after that, it will shoot even the weakest birdshot no problem...
I have this same shotgun. With a couple boxes of hot shells it works perfectly fine too.
Good luck finding and wasting 100rds of buck shot these days. Save your 00buck for TYRANNTS.
@@glock23fan50 nice name. And yes save ammo.
@@inglockwetrust6805 TKS Sir. We get such a hatters club of boo hoo's Yes it can feel like a brick but that brick works 24/7. These days ammo can't be wasted til a box of 9mm gets under 15$ a box.. Next Glock will be the 43x with those steel mags that hold 15 rds. Good luck on the quest of ammo and safety. Until this Tyrant is out of office!!!
@digduck2020 compared to the beretta or Benelli it definitely is more affordable... guess the term "affordable" is based on what the individual can afford based on their individual finances... hope things get better for you chief...
The majority of semi-auto shotgun will not run low brass But that's why there is Buckshot and slugs for a reason and that's what you're going to use it a defense Situation anyway
Exactly! "Oooh, that kicks too hard! Give me a light load so I can save my shoulder while my home is being invaded!"
@@robertfrapples2472 hahahah exactly
A Beretta 1301 will run about anything you can fit in it. It just costs several times more.
hey I used to have an escort shotgun built in Turkey it was the semi-automatic the first 20 rounds I put through it jammed every shot that was a mixture of high brass and low brass the guy in the booth next to me told me he could fix it we unscrewed it got down to the recoil spring and he twisted it backwards after he did that I probably ran close to a thousand rounds do that shotgun and never had a another Jam or stove pipe the rest of the time I owned it
i don't now to much about Gun's or shot Gun's but you explained that real real keep up the Good Work
Thanks
Got mine a few days ago, ran 10 rds of 1200 fps Winchester bird shot through it straight out of the box no hiccups or jams.
Nice
I've heard that this gun will work better if when you get it you lock the bolt open and leave it that way for a few days before going to the range. Doing so loosens up the bolt so that it will cycle with lighter loads.
Just bought this exact weapon
Zero failures with my GForce-1 it loves Federal12ga 2 3/4" Controlled Flight Wad Tactical Law Enforcement Buckshot , buy one ! You won't regret it. ❤️
Haven't had any problems with this shot gun am trying to get extension tube for more rounds.
Thanks for the video!
I’ve noticed my Gforce arms 12gauge functions better with high brass
Thanks for the review.
Turkey also makes some of the finest shotguns out there.
Tactical vs PRACTICAL
Hahaha hahaha hahaha
Turkey sure makes some nice 1911s.
Looks identical to the Citadel Warthog! Bet it came from the same factory in Turkey.
i agree
On my RIA lion x4. I left the bolt locked back for over a week before I actually shot it and I’ve ran everything I could find thru it with out problems.
They can't import shotguns with extended tubes Stupid import laws
Dude, Thank you!!! For the review
I haven't even made it through the into yet, but all the stoppages and the note that it'll only run the hot stuff just kinda makes me wonder why they even sell this. There are so many other good semi-auto shotties out there that will damn near anything you feed them. This is a huge miss for GForce
It's $200. Good gun for the price.
Its like buying a high performance car and putting low octane gas in it and complain how bad it performs. Do what they say.
I was just there earlier! For everything going on, a nice selection. Just didnt grab anything as I was on a mission and they didnt have what i needed
I was reading through the manual I got with mine the other day. It’s my first semi auto shotgun so I figured I’d read up on it. The amount of typos and grammatical errors is worrying.
Shoot it yet?
I wish you had broken the shotgun down, would like to have seen the gas system. This gun looks just like an ASI Ultra max shotgun. I have one of those, they were clearanced out at $150.00. Mine took a long break in, and still occasionally gives a double feed.
When your life depends on choosing the right ammo always choose high brass buckshot or slugs! This is not a dove gun so as long as you are good with that this shotgun is awesome especially at the price!
You got more patience than I do. I woulda junked that POS after the 1st box of shells🤣
PSA is got this on sale to 3-24-23 for 169+tax just happen to see your video in my feed right after PSA emailed me today
This thing looks an awful lot like the Charles Daly semi 12 from back in the day. Im almost wondering if they have an issue with the bolt too.
It also looks like the ATI Citadel.
Hi this is probably the same gun as my Iver Johnson HP18 semi-auto, I'd love to see a trigger group removal video! 🙂 I'm having a light strike issue 3 times so far, 55 shells through it, it did cycle the last 25, minus the 3 light strikes though, see you on MeWe!
I own this G force semi auto but I have a pistol grip, I use very heavy shells and I have no problem. If you use lighter ammo there is not enough blowback pressure to properly clear the chamber or the used shells.
I think the 5 round is a import thing
Aside from all the drama, there are things you can actually do which don't require a whole lot of effort and time to stop that from happening with this shotgun when it's brand new. Yes, I have one.
I was going to purchase one of these from Palmetto... Thanks for saving me some money and time!
I found that these cheap shotguns need a lot of buck run through them to break in. Then they will run lighter loads.
Hello Friend! I want to know what magazine extensions will work with this shotgun as that is important to alot of people interested in a defensive shotgun
I bought a mag tube extension for a benelli nova/supernova.There are.youtube videos showing how to install it
Nice review! Thanks
How about ACTUALLY field stripping these guns so we can see the gas/recoil/bolt system? Lack of such makes these kind of half assed reviews. just saying
If anyone knows anything about semiauto shotty's 98% of them don't like low velocity low brass rounds. Inherently the gas system needs more balls (hence) putting 87 octane in a high performance car 93 is preferred. That said this gun is very reasonable priced.
Agree wholeheartedly. I think the firearm public in general is still somewhat ignorant regarding the specifics of a semi auto shotgun as compared to a pump action shotgun.
My Citadel Warthog (same gun, different importer) runs flawlessly with anything at 1300 fps or more. Anything less and it chokes. Mine is the lightest kicking shotgun I've ever shot.
STOP USING THAT JUNK AMMO MADE BY WINCHESTER, ITS JUNK AND STOP USING LOW BRASS IN A NEW SEMI AUTO SHOTGUN.
Exactly
it was actually between this or the black aces s max for my first 12g. it'll i stray from Winchester rounds or stick with federal, no problems
This is why I will always stick with a pump
And pray the other guy doesn't have a semi-auto that he knows how to load with the proper ammo.
A break in that long takes away from the cheaper price...!
The music is WAY too loud.
Great review friend
Just brought one yesterday look nice, and I never shot it yet can I run slugs through this gun?
Fast forward to 3:20 for actual review
I’ve owned one of these for 2 1/2 years and every time I’ve shot it the shells either get stuck or the buttstock gets loose and I have to go in and tighten it after every time I shoot it
The citadel may be a better option
Perhaps you could enlarge the gas hole in the system to allow more gas through to cycle those lower velocity rounds.
And then full power loads will beat it to death.
Sounds like the spring is very tight, need to pull charging handle back for a month probably.
Good video how’s the push to that?
This is just a Citidel Warthog.... not made for birdshot. Need something that uses a faster and cleaner burning powder, like titewad, and not BP equivalent. Low brass or high brass doesn't matter
Black ace tactical pro s max is a little bit more expensive I got mine for like 369 from PSA. haven’t had any feed issues minus the first day ran it raw Dog on a sub 400 dollar gun it’s expected lol.. She has ran flawlessly ever since, have around 1400 rounds through the gun doesn’t really like the shitty Winchester white box but still cycled it ok. Seriously the third best semi scatter I’ve shot behind of course the Beneli M4 and Beretta 1301. Those things are in a league of their own and dang near triple the price. Best reliable bang for your buck semi on the market. Only downside is no rail for an optic but it’s a shotgun that’s ok
Instead of cutting the Spring, I would have measured the Gasport. And then bore it out two thousands. And then keep going one thousands at a time till it functions reliably
got mine in mocksville NC victory arms 270 i got the shotgun and s box of shells for under 300
I picked one of these up new recently for about $220 OTD. I notice on yours the bolt release button is vertical, while on mine it is horizontal. I wonder if that matters. I really have to fight with mine to get it release the bolt.
Open up the gas ports one size 😉
You clipped a coil off of the action spring? Bc I can only get 1250 FPS shells. I’m to the point where I’d rather just shoot trap with my pump shotgun. It’s a manual semi auto
Looks like the citadel everybody's having problems with those
Same company that makes the panzer m4?
Seems like an extraordinarily high rate of failure to eject.
So when you cut that coil. Exactly how did you cut it. You cut the flat off or 1 coil past the flat?
I just got this beauty, i just have to pick it up when i have time. Im wanting to change the stock on it though. Do you know if you have to remove the trigger system? or is it just the straight up stock when you remove the bolt in the back?
Anyone else notice this shotgun kicks the ever loving crap out of your shoulder???lol
I got one from PSA for $199, I picked up a T3 adjustable stock and a 10 shot tube extension, clipped a single coil off of the spring and it runs like a champ. I do wonder if that spring could be a problem down the road, though.
Has this affected the way the gun shoots yet?
@@sirmudder still going strong
Thanks
The tube is made that way so you can saw it down to 16.
I got my gf1 in today have not shot it yet but upon taking it apart cleaning it I question the quality the finish is very easy to scratch and the barrel feels like it made of porcelain.lol well see
I bought mine for home defense.I keep mine loaded with 3 inch magnum no6 turkey loads for.home defense.The last load 00buck.I did install an extended 7rd.mag tube on mine
Do you remember where you bought the extended mag tube?
@@jerrywilliams5741 I got mine from midway.I ordered one for a benelli nova/super nova.I watched a youtube video to see how to do the install
I bought it brand new in Augusta Maine for $289.00.
BAT smax is the same tool but has the extended mag tube. Same Turkish clone, same low velocity issues! All are Charles daly field model clones!
Gotta break it in with at least a couple hundred hot loads before you can use the lighter loads.. I did and it shoots flawless anybloads now... patience...break it in.
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The bolt release button is very stiff, can anything be done about it? Shot it today with buckshot . About 30 rounds, only 2 ftf.
I have a Charles daly with a accu comp and it runs great
I took my Turkish semi 12 g apart and it wouldn't go back together. Second or 3rd time it's apart.
I just bought a brand new HDs 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun it has that manufactures slug how the hell do you get that out
I have a Tristar that I broke in with high brass, 25 rounds or so, runs everything now long as 1 ounce shot and up, 300 dollar shotgun, Tristar Raptor, will probably be fine after a little break in
i got a raptor too.....it works flawlessly with everything i throw at it.
@@scootdawg3535 great shotguns for the money for sure