Turned out not too bad! Some of the mixed got "burnt" but it adds to the contrast to the bright silver. I had on rock that was pure silver and calcite turned out beautiful
@@meMiner I think the burnt looking metal is definitely a mixed metal of silver and Cobalt/arsenic, but also may be silver coated in safflorite, I heard the safflorite gets burnt looking after being in hcl. I'm not 100% on any of that though would love to get a xrf on alot of different rocks
beeeut man ! ;) . I had to quit etching rocks for awhile. Did some damage to the health LOL . Safety third isnt always the best plan ! . Now in on the polishing , sanding faze hahah thaks to someone ... Not so much polishing but making random spots on boring rocks look more appealing .
McChrister hahah Thanks man , all good , Just been feeling stoned lately .. cloudy xD , was asuming from the fumes and whatnot .... probably alot of arsenic and stuff in roock also . sand them with cuts on my fingers ffs , break time !
I don't know how to get rid of the black. I have played with it without much success, except on larger pieces that come like a sponge. If I squeeze those, sometimes the worst of the black falls off leaving behind a grey silver (not shiny, but not dark black).
I suspect the only answer is to keep etching if the desired result is pure silver, whereby the black is a mix of silver and other minerals and the other minerals are affected by the acid. In the past, I played with various silver cleaner solutions and they did not help much with the black stuff. Maybe somebody watching this video has a better answer.
Nice vid. Didn't know what the term was for that exposed silver. I was calling them silver "trees." What do you think the black branches are mixed with? Also, I have a small boulder that I have to crack open (about 1 1/4' X 1').I got it thinking it was silver-containing because it has a baseball-sized geode of silvery layers. Now I'm pretty sure they're not silver because they're flaky. Probably mica w/ pyrite or some kind of schist? Also though it's still muddy I saw a whole area of quartz on one side. It's overall EXTREMELY heavy for its size. What are your thoughts? Maybe I'll get a photo up sometime.
If the silvery crystals are flaky, that is usually mica. You can usually separate the flakes with your fingernail or a sharp knife. Mica is not all that heavy so there might be something else in the rock.
Unrelated to the vid...any chance you have some tips for hand sanding/polishing slices? I have silicon carbide paper that goes up to 3000 lol and i did some fluorite which was super easy to give a sheen to...having trouble with everything else though
I sand wet and clean the sandpaper so I am not scratching. Usually 3000 is good enough but for a super shene I go higher than 7000 and then use an appropriate polish.
@@meMiner awesome! Thank you, i also have some "battstiks" they are to charge lap wheels but i have been debating on using them on the 3k grit or felt dremel wheels
I had an unexpected problem with etching gold bearing rocks recently..I was unable to get them out of quarz so I decided to apply some HF to it as it doesn't dissolve gold..And the funny thing is that before hydrofluoric bath the gold was definitely there-even the pinpointer shown that fact!And after the HF there was nothing except some sludge which by the way stank with pungent garlic odour and also like some strange odour was present but no gold!And just to make sure that it ate all the gold I poured some water(which somehow dissolved sludge and made a clear purple-red solution with nothing in it)-and took a tiny ball of gold left from melting some powder in the crucible..And it God damn dissolved in several minutes!How is that possible?(( And by the way now I am wondering how to precipitate gold from there as I even don't know what actually dissolved it?..
HF is a lab only chemical. It is not something to play with. It is very dangerous. I think you were dissolving arsenopyrite which would explain the garlic odour.
@@meMiner I know,it's actually the chemical that I fear the most of those that I use or have..I fear it more than my own super-recipe which is astrolite-D with granules of pure peroxomonosulfuric acid with ultra-thin layer of protection,which I use in tests of my experimental firearms(for now I mean concept tests)..Although it's several dozen times more powerful than TNT(1kg of this yields not less than 10-15kg of TNT),but it is surprisingly stable stuff(unfortunately stinky like hell)-but at least it won't do anything like HF will if accidentally you get it on the skin..I initially didn't take those precautions too seriously but when in Russia in MCHS(МЧС) lab I witnessed a case when a guy got HF running down from his glove onto unprotected hand-I really changed my mind,especially when I heard that after all his hand was amputated-just after maybe 20-30 millilitres of around 50% HF-that is really gross..And also I would never enter the room in which there is any quantity of this shit without having a gas mask,eye protection,gloves and a bottle of calcium gluconate ready to be used immediately if necessary,because I was also told that if that guy had used gluconate in time he would probably still have two hands.. So in conclusion most of fluorine- containing stuff is fiendishly corrosive and unbearably toxic-which is not so surprising due to the insane nature of fluoride ions and especially fluorine itself,that is by far the strongest halide and the most reactive element in entire periodic table..So,even for that reason there exist three types of chemists:organic chemists,inorganic chemists and fluorine chemists..I just know basics of dealing with HF and F2(I think I probably will try to perform a PGMs separation process that is based on the fact that each PGM starts reacting with F2 at it's own temperature so I suppose it will probably turn out to be efficient way of separating them from each other.. Arsenopirite?Damn,is that looking like simple pirite but with either green or sometimes blue tinge?Just had a bunch of this stuff in my sample but thought it was just regular one ..But maybe it is what dissolved my gold in fact?
Arsenopyrite forms under the same conditions as gold and as such can be an indicator mineral. You can usually smell garlic when breaking fresh rock. The old method to separate out gold was to crush and roast the ore, then use gravity separation and mercury. For large deposits, they used cyanide leaching. I have not done either method and both have their environmental dangers.
@@meMiner interesting!I should probably extract arsenic from it for the elements collection I guess😇 And by the way actually about mercury:how is that done?Just am I right that you simply crush the rock into a powder and then pour in some mercury and roll it all over the crushed rock so it absorbs it into itself and than you only have to evaporate mercury so you will have your gold and also mercury in condenser?
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Absolute stunning results there young fellow , both pieces turned out quite nicely .
Here in Wales 🏴, we call you ‘The Tinker Man’, your always tinkering with whatever you find 👍👍👍👍😇😇😇😂🏴
I like that. Had I known when I changed my channel name from Tess99991, I would have considered that name.
That is pretty awesome watching the acid do it's work and how it turned out was amazing went from rock to silver nugget sweet video meMiner
Thanks Molly. Sometimes it works out. ;-)
That big Nugget looks great. I love how the silver shines after you cut it.
That's so cool to watch. In October were headed to Nevada for opal and turquoise💜✌ I can't wait
Sounds like a great trip. I know someone heading there in Nov for placer gold. Good luck on your adventure.
Got yourself a cool looking specimen there! I like!!
Rather than stay at home this weekend, I should have gone north to collect some more. ;-)
Pretty awesome! Looks like an artwork by Mother Nature. Love your videos 😀
Very cool. It so interesting to see whats hidden inside a rock. I wonder if there is something that could remove the black tarnish.
That little piece that etched out really is a fantastic specimen.
So that's how those nice sculptures of MeMiner are made whoa pretty cool!!!
Silver in calcite is a sweet find!!
I was happy to find it. Took a while to dig up. It was in really hard ground. I was so glad that it wasn't a piece of junk and it broke a bad streak.
That's the type of native silver I really like.
Very cool process and result!
Such a cool specimen..ok I'm gonna say it.I want to be you when I grow up..lol
That was really cool, thanx MeMiner
Turned out not too bad! Some of the mixed got "burnt" but it adds to the contrast to the bright silver. I had on rock that was pure silver and calcite turned out beautiful
You think the black is acid burned silver vs a mixed metal?
@@meMiner I think the burnt looking metal is definitely a mixed metal of silver and Cobalt/arsenic, but also may be silver coated in safflorite, I heard the safflorite gets burnt looking after being in hcl. I'm not 100% on any of that though would love to get a xrf on alot of different rocks
@@chrisbrooks2062 Rocks are so hard to get a "rock" solid visual ID on. Lol
beeeut man ! ;) .
I had to quit etching rocks for awhile.
Did some damage to the health LOL . Safety third isnt always the best plan ! .
Now in on the polishing , sanding faze hahah thaks to someone ...
Not so much polishing but making random spots on boring rocks look more appealing .
Ontario RockHound Hope you are okay health wise! Always safety first....Good luck on your next project(s)!👍🏼🍀🙏🏼
McChrister hahah Thanks man , all good , Just been feeling stoned lately .. cloudy xD , was asuming from the fumes and whatnot .... probably alot of arsenic and stuff in roock also . sand them with cuts on my fingers ffs , break time !
Magnificent looking real sweet
Hummmm!, is that a finger bone ? Floating. Lol thank you for the video
I am laughing out loud. My wife, not so much...she worries about me.
I’m sorry i didn’t mean too make anyone upset 🌺🥀🌹💐🌸🌼🌻🌾🍁
She gives me a verbal slap once in a while for being careless.
Very cool pieces. Looks like an alien world landscape. Is there a way to remove the black colour from the metal?
I don't know how to get rid of the black. I have played with it without much success, except on larger pieces that come like a sponge. If I squeeze those, sometimes the worst of the black falls off leaving behind a grey silver (not shiny, but not dark black).
Very cool. Great video. Do you ever see yourself making a bar or button yourself?. Thanks for sharing. Take care and be safe.
I will refine some this winter. I am looking around at the necessary tools now. Some I will make myself and others will have to buy.
@@meMiner can't wait to see that. Thanks.
Awesome! Very nice specimens now.
Would be nice to have a chemist advise on how to etch black metals now to leave only Silver.
I suspect the only answer is to keep etching if the desired result is pure silver, whereby the black is a mix of silver and other minerals and the other minerals are affected by the acid. In the past, I played with various silver cleaner solutions and they did not help much with the black stuff. Maybe somebody watching this video has a better answer.
Very cool!!!!
Another interesting video. Turning the silver samples into a button should remove all of the other metals, correct?
Yes. The goal would be pure silver.
Turned out really nice. Kinda looks like a pirate ship.
Very nice 👍👍👍
Nice piece! Pieces! Tho holy smokes! I've never seen anyone open-air etch like that before! Be careful!!!
Nice vid. Didn't know what the term was for that exposed silver. I was calling them silver "trees."
What do you think the black branches are mixed with?
Also, I have a small boulder that I have to crack open (about 1 1/4' X 1').I got it thinking it was silver-containing because it has a baseball-sized geode of silvery layers. Now I'm pretty sure they're not silver because they're flaky. Probably mica w/ pyrite or some kind of schist? Also though it's still muddy I saw a whole area of quartz on one side. It's overall EXTREMELY heavy for its size. What are your thoughts? Maybe I'll get a photo up sometime.
If the silvery crystals are flaky, that is usually mica. You can usually separate the flakes with your fingernail or a sharp knife. Mica is not all that heavy so there might be something else in the rock.
Looks like the bottom should have been the top!
hindsight is always 20:20 eh?
What do you do with your left over acid?
I neutralize it with baking soda.
Oooooh neat-o!
Unrelated to the vid...any chance you have some tips for hand sanding/polishing slices? I have silicon carbide paper that goes up to 3000 lol and i did some fluorite which was super easy to give a sheen to...having trouble with everything else though
I sand wet and clean the sandpaper so I am not scratching. Usually 3000 is good enough but for a super shene I go higher than 7000 and then use an appropriate polish.
@@meMiner awesome! Thank you, i also have some "battstiks" they are to charge lap wheels but i have been debating on using them on the 3k grit or felt dremel wheels
Your vids keep getting better! Is that mcbain from gpex.ca?
The same. He has a kiln and wants to try refining silver. I guess he is getting tired of all the gold. LOL
On that forum, I am Sunshine. I have not been much active recently.
Awesome!
I had an unexpected problem with etching gold bearing rocks recently..I was unable to get them out of quarz so I decided to apply some HF to it as it doesn't dissolve gold..And the funny thing is that before hydrofluoric bath the gold was definitely there-even the pinpointer shown that fact!And after the HF there was nothing except some sludge which by the way stank with pungent garlic odour and also like some strange odour was present but no gold!And just to make sure that it ate all the gold I poured some water(which somehow dissolved sludge and made a clear purple-red solution with nothing in it)-and took a tiny ball of gold left from melting some powder in the crucible..And it God damn dissolved in several minutes!How is that possible?((
And by the way now I am wondering how to precipitate gold from there as I even don't know what actually dissolved it?..
HF is a lab only chemical. It is not something to play with. It is very dangerous. I think you were dissolving arsenopyrite which would explain the garlic odour.
@@meMiner I know,it's actually the chemical that I fear the most of those that I use or have..I fear it more than my own super-recipe which is astrolite-D with granules of pure peroxomonosulfuric acid with ultra-thin layer of protection,which I use in tests of my experimental firearms(for now I mean concept tests)..Although it's several dozen times more powerful than TNT(1kg of this yields not less than 10-15kg of TNT),but it is surprisingly stable stuff(unfortunately stinky like hell)-but at least it won't do anything like HF will if accidentally you get it on the skin..I initially didn't take those precautions too seriously but when in Russia in MCHS(МЧС) lab I witnessed a case when a guy got HF running down from his glove onto unprotected hand-I really changed my mind,especially when I heard that after all his hand was amputated-just after maybe 20-30 millilitres of around 50% HF-that is really gross..And also I would never enter the room in which there is any quantity of this shit without having a gas mask,eye protection,gloves and a bottle of calcium gluconate ready to be used immediately if necessary,because I was also told that if that guy had used gluconate in time he would probably still have two hands..
So in conclusion most of fluorine- containing stuff is fiendishly corrosive and unbearably toxic-which is not so surprising due to the insane nature of fluoride ions and especially fluorine itself,that is by far the strongest halide and the most reactive element in entire periodic table..So,even for that reason there exist three types of chemists:organic chemists,inorganic chemists and fluorine chemists..I just know basics of dealing with HF and F2(I think I probably will try to perform a PGMs separation process that is based on the fact that each PGM starts reacting with F2 at it's own temperature so I suppose it will probably turn out to be efficient way of separating them from each other..
Arsenopirite?Damn,is that looking like simple pirite but with either green or sometimes blue tinge?Just had a bunch of this stuff in my sample but thought it was just regular one ..But maybe it is what dissolved my gold in fact?
Arsenopyrite forms under the same conditions as gold and as such can be an indicator mineral. You can usually smell garlic when breaking fresh rock. The old method to separate out gold was to crush and roast the ore, then use gravity separation and mercury. For large deposits, they used cyanide leaching. I have not done either method and both have their environmental dangers.
@@meMiner interesting!I should probably extract arsenic from it for the elements collection I guess😇
And by the way actually about mercury:how is that done?Just am I right that you simply crush the rock into a powder and then pour in some mercury and roll it all over the crushed rock so it absorbs it into itself and than you only have to evaporate mercury so you will have your gold and also mercury in condenser?
Awesome ty for sharing
Thanks Daniel
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Can TH-cam remove the dislike-button?
I am just glad that some people can only hit it once. ;-)
Very very cool!