Some parts of the video focused better then other parts. It was cool to see the change though. I have some rocks soaking in [ CLR ] Calcium Line Rust remover. Cleanser .
Be careful, I'm no expert but that was one of my first 2 chemicals I used and lost my rocks into a sand mixture within 24 hours. Also did the same with "the works". Now I use vinegar if I don't get what ever doesn't soften up from dawn with oxy in hot water after a few days. Wish someone would make more fossil preparation videos, so people like me don't ruin something or accidentally release a million year old DNA LOL.
How about if I used the muriatic acid in my basement. It’s just too cold out although today is not bad. I’m still rock hounding because of the peace it brings me. I love to clean my rocks and then oil them. I seem to attract a lot of smoky quartz and fire quartz . I don’t really have any calcite on these rocks. I’m still trying to find where the calcite is in my area so I can find more crystals.
Bad idea. The fumes will corrode things in your basement. If you do it outside, it will just take longer. I don't know what fire quartz is, but it sounds like something I would like.
“Maybe somebody knows better but I’m thinking that is calcite” I could very well be wrong but the coloration and banding in that large crystal reminds me of some sapphires I just recently found in Montana, except much larger lol
Love those garnets. I've only found a small specimen. The others are nearly microscopic, but I kept them anyway. I also bought some almandine garnets from China.
I really like the look of garnet. It is fairly common in many parts of the world. Have you tried looking at the microscopic crystals that you found under magnification? I bet they are pretty.
When you go and dissolve that much calcite in 5 gal of water/ HCl, wouldn't you get a solution that is ready to precipitate back out some nice crystals. If you clean the grit from the soln, you could get some large crystals?
I have never had crystal form from the solution. Many times there are loose crystals released from the rocks that were only held in place by the calcite which etched away.
What does the muratic acid do to fossils? I find allot of crab type fossils in lime stone or sand stone (don't know the difference yet), just know it's white and with hot water and dawn with oxy (and many hours) is not too hard to pick out with a dental pick., I was cutting the stones with a wet saw but after cutting and unknown fossil in half and losing. 125" I'm looking for a better way to clean them up. Also fo to look forr fossils in the stone how do you know where to hit the stone, do fracture lines mean anything? Trying to learn more on fossil cleaning. I'm going to post some videos someday in hopes of somebody being able identify some. Thank you for a very informative video , I'll be sure to keep watching.
If the fossil is silica, it won't be affected by the HCL but the surrounding matrix might ... which is what you probably want. I don't have a lot of experience with fossils, but know the preferred method by many is to remove the matrix mechanically with an air scribe. Typically, when you hit a rock, it will break at the weakest place, which unfortunately sometimes is right thru the place you wanted to keep whole.
Take your unwanted to a jeweller maybe they can rescue some and u may make little money , win, win. Native jewellers on Navajo reservation can take a look on net. Just a thought. Thanks for sharing. From AZ.
meMiner can I find rocks like what your working with here in this video in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA USA maybe I doubt it I don't think so your channel is one of my top 10 here on TH-cam I would appreciate an answer thank you sir and if you can tell me maybe what kind of rocks should I look for I KNO ABOUT gold in California
Well good eve to you me.miner, just watch another older video called bucket of rocks where you moving from the driveway. Anyway you were using a chemical on them where it was eating away parts of the stone but not sure what part? Also parts that were left were black. I do not understand that at all and can you restore that part? Also really what is the benefit of losing all the stone. I know there are variation in color of red garnet but did not know theres a black one. Also when you put the last stone in for the last time you had to larger stones ,second to last I noticed pink gems or Crystal's from where I was sitting, can you verify what all the pink was? Miner interesting bucket. Do you somewhere else explain all about them? Oh how do I find your f.b. page? On to the next then a movie if I dont fall asleep. I had finished watching at midnight and hubby gets up at 3;20 am every week day. I'm light sleeper takes me hours to go to sleep so I got up had coffee with him, got caught up on the crap in the world today when he left I then got caught up on my recorded. Ok. I got carried away, that's what happens to me because I'm alone all day, the the 3 of us are in 3 different rooms when the 2 guys come home cause nobody does what the other does. Ok great video have questions about it. You make my day. 😍🐶🤗
The acid was diluted muriatic acid. It is especially good at removing calcite. Calcite is especially good at hiding nice crystals. They call this process "etching". Some minerals are affected (or mildly affected) by some kinds of acid and others are unaffected. Etching is a good way to expose undamaged/unweathered clusters or individual crystals.
How long do you leave your accent? How long do you think I need to leave my rocks and just to clean them? And is it still just for cleaning and calcite a quarter muriatic acid and the rest water?
My accent? You can leave rocks as long as you deem necessary in acid. It gets weaker but still works for a long while. Acid removes calcite. For cleaning, dish soap or TSP works better. Does that help?
I have my methodology, but am not sure it is the best, so hesitate to explain it. Acid can easily be neutralized, but there are other minerals that may be released into the fluid that should be treated as hazardous waste.
Good job again smiler, and some humour thrown in for good measure. I agreed with everything that you did but there are one or two I would have soaked some more to remove all traces of white, just a thought. Thanks again.
It is always a guess how far down to take a sample. Sometimes it is nice to remove all of the white calcite and other times it is better to leave the crystals in the matrix. One thing for sure, once you remove the calcite, it is impossible to put it back. LOL
Been there, removed all of the calcite and matrix from a quartz bubble, not exactly a geode but it looked great , all of the crystal inside was now visible and the outside was unique and a really odd shape . I put on the side to give one final scrub with some others , gathered them up and put them in the warm water and it came out in pieces. Bummed for sure. I am more cautious now.
Awesome video !it turned out well , the weather has been beut ! , Ive been finding some wicked stuff lately to man , lots of copper and nickel as usuall but luckely a "small"sheet of vg mixed in with a magnetite boulder a glacier left behind in the bush behind my place lmao .copper and silver mixed in from whats visible ... but small amounts ,pree much solid magnetite , wish i knew where it came frome haha ,also found a huge boulder of banded iron on the shoreline .took a few samples , seems to have what im asuming are a few of the rare earth metals in it.. . looks unreal . it felt like trying to chip a chunk of steel tho lol had to giver . again wish i knew where it came from tho. Glaciers move mountains , You got me looking around here alot more hahah
Sounds like you are having a good time. If you read some of the recent studies, they have found that glaciers did not often move the rocks very far, with an average distance (I am doing this from memory) of less than 1.5KM from source. For sure, some moved hundreds of miles, but if you are finding good float, move up-glacier and see if you find more. Where it stops...look at the bedrock.
Good stuff I feel a little smarter from watching. I'm impressed with you knowing the names. I still just color name everything. "Hey a pretty red-yellowish rock." Guess I'm just a deplorable. Thank you sharing
Calling minerals by colour works really well for silver, gold and amber. ;-) Like you, I generally also keep my IDs at a high level and leave the detailed classification to people smarter than me.
An old iron mine in Eastern Ontario. It has been closed to collecting for a few years. If they change their mind and open it up again, they will probably only allow club visits. It is more fun to go with others anyway.
I sure wish we had them kind of fancy rocks here in S/E Wisconsin... Here we gots lots of lime stone and old river rock nothing with pretty stuff in them like Garnets in them or any other Gem type stone... :0(
Some nice crystals can be found in some limestones. Look for the vugs (holes) and you might be surprised what you will find there. The garnets and epidote crystals in this video were from an old iron mine in Eastern Ontario. For sure, we are very lucky to have club access to such a spot.
Here is a map you might find interesting. If you click on the area you live, you will see there are some interesting possibilities: www.mindat.org/loc-17464.html
It was in a spot that garnet has been found before (that really helps) and in the little spots where it seemed to be abundant, there were some exposed pieces. Then I looked for fat pieces of muscovite mica that swelled in spots that seemed to hold round things. ie. look for a black soft taco holding marbles or golf balls.
@@meMiner I was just wondering if you ever make money off your hobby. I like rocks for fun too. Not much here outside Savannah Georgia, though. Keep up the good work.
Generally, in skarns or chlorite schists. Sometimes associated with epidote. One way to see if they are known in your area would be to search under "andradite garnet".
Thank you. It was good to see someone trying to figure out what they have. I agree the black Garnet was interesting.
Thanks Jennifer
They look like tiny mountains with bushes and gems! Beautiful!
Really neat to put on a shelf with a nice light to show off the shinny ones!!
I should add light to my display shelves.....
SO AMAZING! If I could spend everyday crystal collecting , I would be one happy gal!
Thank you for explaining that part of this process, that makes sense. 😇
Some parts of the video focused better then other parts. It was cool to see the change though.
I have some rocks soaking in [ CLR ] Calcium Line Rust remover. Cleanser .
CLR will work but is a bit expensive
@@meMiner
not for the experience
Not for the science in it. Not for that A-U.
😉 Naw but you have a point. Working my way up to the potent Acids .
Be careful, I'm no expert but that was one of my first 2 chemicals I used and lost my rocks into a sand mixture within 24 hours. Also did the same with "the works". Now I use vinegar if I don't get what ever doesn't soften up from dawn with oxy in hot water after a few days. Wish someone would make more fossil preparation videos, so people like me don't ruin something or accidentally release a million year old DNA LOL.
Love the garnets, great video! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Very nice rocks collection you're so lucky.I wish I could have like that someday.Goodluck sir
Enjoyed as always, Thanks for sharing
Thanks.
you have a nice peaceful voice
Thanks Jamie
Sort of a Bob Ross of Prospecting, 100% positive and undeterred. And damn good at it, too.
How about if I used the muriatic acid in my basement. It’s just too cold out although today is not bad. I’m still rock hounding because of the peace it brings me. I love to clean my rocks and then oil them. I seem to attract a lot of smoky quartz and fire quartz . I don’t really have any calcite on these rocks. I’m still trying to find where the calcite is in my area so I can find more crystals.
Bad idea. The fumes will corrode things in your basement. If you do it outside, it will just take longer. I don't know what fire quartz is, but it sounds like something I would like.
I like the rocks. We don't have rocks like that here in Harlem New York. I find some petrified wood sometimes though.
“Maybe somebody knows better but I’m thinking that is calcite” I could very well be wrong but the coloration and banding in that large crystal reminds me of some sapphires I just recently found in Montana, except much larger lol
i love garnet, i have yet to find one myself and im super tempted to buy some, should i?
More fun to find your own. They are relatively common.
@@meMiner i have to spot to check that i found on the gouvernement website, crossing finger
Love those garnets. I've only found a small specimen. The others are nearly microscopic, but I kept them anyway. I also bought some almandine garnets from China.
I really like the look of garnet. It is fairly common in many parts of the world. Have you tried looking at the microscopic crystals that you found under magnification? I bet they are pretty.
When you go and dissolve that much calcite in 5 gal of water/ HCl, wouldn't you get a solution that is ready to precipitate back out some nice crystals. If you clean the grit from the soln, you could get some large crystals?
I have never had crystal form from the solution. Many times there are loose crystals released from the rocks that were only held in place by the calcite which etched away.
not sure whats the name of the flat garnet, but ilike their tiny edges in angle
Love all you videos keep up the good work
Thanks Nathalie!
What does the muratic acid do to fossils? I find allot of crab type fossils in lime stone or sand stone (don't know the difference yet), just know it's white and with hot water and dawn with oxy (and many hours) is not too hard to pick out with a dental pick., I was cutting the stones with a wet saw but after cutting and unknown fossil in half and losing. 125" I'm looking for a better way to clean them up. Also fo to look forr fossils in the stone how do you know where to hit the stone, do fracture lines mean anything? Trying to learn more on fossil cleaning. I'm going to post some videos someday in hopes of somebody being able identify some. Thank you for a very informative video , I'll be sure to keep watching.
If the fossil is silica, it won't be affected by the HCL but the surrounding matrix might ... which is what you probably want. I don't have a lot of experience with fossils, but know the preferred method by many is to remove the matrix mechanically with an air scribe. Typically, when you hit a rock, it will break at the weakest place, which unfortunately sometimes is right thru the place you wanted to keep whole.
That gold-like stuff (pry???) SO pretty!! Some really red green, boy oh boy!!
pyrite
Take your unwanted to a jeweller maybe they can rescue some and u may make little money , win, win. Native jewellers on Navajo reservation can take a look on net. Just a thought. Thanks for sharing. From AZ.
That is an interesting idea. Thanks
meMiner can I find rocks like what your working with here in this video in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA USA maybe I doubt it I don't think so your channel is one of my top 10 here on TH-cam I would appreciate an answer thank you sir and if you can tell me maybe what kind of rocks should I look for I KNO ABOUT gold in California
CA has a variety of geology and some great rock collecting. I have never been but understand fluorite can be found at Felix Mine, Azusa
Well good eve to you me.miner, just watch another older video called bucket of rocks where you moving from the driveway. Anyway you were using a chemical on them where it was eating away parts of the stone but not sure what part? Also parts that were left were black. I do not understand that at all and can you restore that part? Also really what is the benefit of losing all the stone. I know there are variation in color of red garnet but did not know theres a black one. Also when you put the last stone in for the last time you had to larger stones ,second to last I noticed pink gems or Crystal's from where I was sitting, can you verify what all the pink was? Miner interesting bucket. Do you somewhere else explain all about them? Oh how do I find your f.b. page? On to the next then a movie if I dont fall asleep. I had finished watching at midnight and hubby gets up at 3;20 am every week day. I'm light sleeper takes me hours to go to sleep so I got up had coffee with him, got caught up on the crap in the world today when he left I then got caught up on my recorded. Ok. I got carried away, that's what happens to me because I'm alone all day, the the 3 of us are in 3 different rooms when the 2 guys come home cause nobody does what the other does. Ok great video have questions about it. You make my day. 😍🐶🤗
The acid was diluted muriatic acid. It is especially good at removing calcite. Calcite is especially good at hiding nice crystals. They call this process "etching". Some minerals are affected (or mildly affected) by some kinds of acid and others are unaffected. Etching is a good way to expose undamaged/unweathered clusters or individual crystals.
How long do you leave your accent? How long do you think I need to leave my rocks and just to clean them? And is it still just for cleaning and calcite a quarter muriatic acid and the rest water?
My accent? You can leave rocks as long as you deem necessary in acid. It gets weaker but still works for a long while. Acid removes calcite. For cleaning, dish soap or TSP works better. Does that help?
Sorry not accent I meant in the acid😂
Normally, I can figure out a typo, but that one had me baffled. LOL
how do you dispose of the acid afterwards?
I have my methodology, but am not sure it is the best, so hesitate to explain it. Acid can easily be neutralized, but there are other minerals that may be released into the fluid that should be treated as hazardous waste.
Good job again smiler, and some humour thrown in for good measure.
I agreed with everything that you did but there are one or two I would have soaked some more to remove all traces of white, just a thought.
Thanks again.
It is always a guess how far down to take a sample. Sometimes it is nice to remove all of the white calcite and other times it is better to leave the crystals in the matrix. One thing for sure, once you remove the calcite, it is impossible to put it back. LOL
Been there, removed all of the calcite and matrix from a quartz bubble, not exactly a geode but it looked great , all of the crystal inside was now visible and the outside was unique and a really odd shape .
I put on the side to give one final scrub with some others , gathered them up and put them in the warm water and it came out in pieces. Bummed for sure.
I am more cautious now.
Those Epidote crystals are nice. Hard to find in crystals from Marmoraton these days. I would etch that one some more!
Nice surprise for sure. Good idea to etch some more. Maybe inside in vinegar.
Awesome video !it turned out well , the weather has been beut ! , Ive been finding some wicked stuff lately to man , lots of copper and nickel as usuall but luckely a "small"sheet of vg mixed in with a magnetite boulder a glacier left behind in the bush behind my place lmao .copper and silver mixed in from whats visible ... but small amounts ,pree much solid magnetite , wish i knew where it came frome haha ,also found a huge boulder of banded iron on the shoreline .took a few samples , seems to have what im asuming are a few of the rare earth metals in it.. . looks unreal . it felt like trying to chip a chunk of steel tho lol had to giver . again wish i knew where it came from tho. Glaciers move mountains , You got me looking around here alot more hahah
Sounds like you are having a good time. If you read some of the recent studies, they have found that glaciers did not often move the rocks very far, with an average distance (I am doing this from memory) of less than 1.5KM from source. For sure, some moved hundreds of miles, but if you are finding good float, move up-glacier and see if you find more. Where it stops...look at the bedrock.
OMG my two cents first lol. GREAT VIDEO 👍 🐓🐔. 🐣🐣🐤🐤🐤💕💕💕
Wow. Thanks much! You made my day.
Good stuff I feel a little smarter from watching. I'm impressed with you knowing the names. I still just color name everything. "Hey a pretty red-yellowish rock." Guess I'm just a deplorable.
Thank you sharing
Calling minerals by colour works really well for silver, gold and amber. ;-) Like you, I generally also keep my IDs at a high level and leave the detailed classification to people smarter than me.
@@meMiner that's why I watch you! Appreciate it
Where were most of these specimens found?
An old iron mine in Eastern Ontario. It has been closed to collecting for a few years. If they change their mind and open it up again, they will probably only allow club visits. It is more fun to go with others anyway.
Omg I just spit coffee all over the place after that nice deplorables tidbit... at first I thought I accidentally clicked a different video lmao
I forgot about that video. Good ole Hillary.
Simpler times hahahaha
I sure wish we had them kind of fancy rocks here in S/E Wisconsin... Here we gots lots of lime stone and old river rock nothing with pretty stuff in them like Garnets in them or any other Gem type stone... :0(
Some nice crystals can be found in some limestones. Look for the vugs (holes) and you might be surprised what you will find there. The garnets and epidote crystals in this video were from an old iron mine in Eastern Ontario. For sure, we are very lucky to have club access to such a spot.
Here is a map you might find interesting. If you click on the area you live, you will see there are some interesting possibilities:
www.mindat.org/loc-17464.html
how do you know there was an indication of garnet? :D thanks!
It was in a spot that garnet has been found before (that really helps) and in the little spots where it seemed to be abundant, there were some exposed pieces. Then I looked for fat pieces of muscovite mica that swelled in spots that seemed to hold round things. ie. look for a black soft taco holding marbles or golf balls.
Do you sell any of those gems/crystals you find?
I do this for fun and don't have a store
@@meMiner I was just wondering if you ever make money off your hobby. I like rocks for fun too. Not much here outside Savannah Georgia, though. Keep up the good work.
How do you tell the mass of pyrite as you called it from plate silver?
Pyrite crystals are typically cubic.
Fun including the deplorable one
Where's a good spot to go get some of Black Cube crystals.
Generally, in skarns or chlorite schists. Sometimes associated with epidote. One way to see if they are known in your area would be to search under "andradite garnet".
Go Daisy! Tell dad it's playtime.
LOL
Dang I’ll be glad when I can recognize more of this. Am older and slow lol.i couldn’t find pyrotite in my mineral book. ?
Whenever I am looking up a mineral that I am unsure, I usually just google the name and mindat. eg. "pyrrhotite mindat".
meMiner thanks. I will try that.
Nice
St. Patty's Day-type rocks!
goooooooooooooooood
thaaaaanks. ;-)
ZHey I found a fossil at school today
Good for you!
And also where did you get those acid from sorry for the incorrect English
Around me, one can purchase muriatic acid from most hardware stores, but the better price seems to be from swimming pool supply shops.
Noooooooooow
Aboot that,😂