Please give us the theme songs for creta the fallen crucible and the new godskin duo please we have been waited for the theme songs and both happened happened please give us the theme songs please like what you did to Odeon
Damage is scaled completely different in elden ring compared to dark souls three soul of cinder should be doing almost triple damage but sense it's scaled for dark souls 3 all his moves are weak
It said 11 min in the video they upscaled soul of cinders stats but it really didn’t seem to make a difference I agree soul of cinder did well considering lol
@@zero22ify Upscaling means you increase the multipliers of something, If that something has inherintely less starting numbers even if you upscale it to match something with higher stats the difference will still be quite visible. Especially with dmg dealt. You can see DS3 bosses and enemies deal considerably less dmg than the elden ring counterparts even when upscaled since their base dmg is lower meant to match DS3 player stats and the availiable defense mechanisms of the player.
@@prowers2623 the video is called 'genichiro, isshin and owl vs demon of hatred' by benzoin gum. The part your looking for starts at 7:20 and ends at 7:40, but trust me, youll know when you see it.
morgott has an amazing moveset and seeing him actually fight with a boss of similar scaling to his is always a treat. too bad he always gets poise broken in a few hits, reaches phase 2, tries his sword rain attack and dies while charging it. The intent behind him is to catch players off guard with a combination of very fast lengthy combos chained into slow delayed attacks, but that doesn't screw bosses over as it does to players.
@@gillaliglaou2840I don't know his HP but it seems to be kinda low, most times I see morgott bossfights against other players they kill him kinda easily compared to the other bosses, and this makes me kinda sad because his moveset is spectacular
@@thechickenslittl1373 yeah that's another part of the issue. by the time you get to morgott you could have easily finished ranni's questline, killed rykard, radahn, the godskin apostle in caelid divine tower, sewer mohg, rennala, that giant dragon in caelid, obtained mimic tear, have access to a somber 8 weapon (I don't know if you can get a higher somber weapon at this point, I know there is a somber 10 in mohgwyn palace and you can go there if you do varre's questline but idk about the somber 9, and besides, most new players don't go there early). Basically, if you explore a big chunk of what's doable by the point you reach him, he becomes a quick fight. There is plenty of stuff that's dragging him down and fromsoft probably didn't buff him because of "what if you get to him properly leveled?".
@@thechickenslittl1373 there are plenty of people on reddit who complain about him being unfair and most of the time it's melee users who aren't overleveled.
People gotta keep in mind ER enemies just have much higher numbers. But really this applies to the whole game. A 700 AR Claymore in ER is not the same as a 700 AR claymore in DS3. The stats are relative to their own games. That’s why Malenia absolutely smoked Maria with original stats. To like an absurd degree.
I feel like Elden Ring might have pushed too much towards the "RPG stats" part of the combat that it leads to situations like this as a consequence. Souls games usually balanced out the numbers well where pure skill will still make a lot of progress, but ER feels like the opposite philosophy of Sekiro where stats have a big impact.
It has to be, due to all the items and things that are available, or without this “buff” the game would be to easy. In short fromsoft takes spirit ashes as well as buffs into consideration, then makes the boss appropriately
@@stwbf2729 Yeah you don't even need uber meta builds to hit crazy numbers. My standard co-op build just stacks a lot of fire and repeated attack buffs so that my weapons have ~1100 AR before the repeated attack buffs kick in. Even with the bloated boss HP it takes me like half a minute or less to kill most of them (main exceptions are Malenia who has few safe openings and Elden Beast which keeps running away.)
SOC stun locking Draconic tree sentinel was so satisfying....Only thing I think is unfair is how little damage SOC does in general, his lightning bolts only seem to tickle the ER bosses.
@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTubit even has to do as well lore wise considering in ds, pretty much everyone is at there weakest when the main protagonists arrives whereas in elden ring, you can still see bosses are at there prime like Godfrey and even malenia that fought radahn and the world is still relatively new and flourishing even though some are bad but not as bad as ds. Even radahn that has lost his mind to baser instincts is still well relatively young by dark souls age and can still access his powers.
@@tc-channelhobby4051 Not really, many enemies in Dark Souls have either no indication of having lost their power, or it is hard to say. In the soul of cinder's case it is true that the fire is slowly winding down, but at the same time it has a vast arsenal of abilities from all of the previous lords of cinder, so it's not clear how strong it would be. For some other bosses it seems quite clear that they must be extremely strong. Gael by the end of it will be perhaps the most ancient being alive and will have just eaten so much of the Dark Soul that when he bleeds it is the blood of the dark soul we see, not his own. He might be the closest thing to a fully powered Lord we see at any point, and we still beat him. Really, its not about lore, it is about balancing. Elden Ring generally has larger health pools and more damage than DS3 across the board. In DS3 the highest possible health is 2122 and in Elden Ring it is 3243. But in DS2 it was even higher, in that game you could hit 3827. And before you think thats because DS2 happens before DS3 and therefore should lorewise have more power, in DS1 the max health was 2633. TLDR, its just different numbers based on design and balancing.
Morgott’s speech at the end takes it for me. It’s one of the only moments in Elden Ring where character writing is actually able to shine. A demigod cursed at birth, but ever so loyal to the Erdtree, laments that his service was not enough.
I didn't realize Malenia had a dying dialogue lol... j/k, I beat her eventually. But one thing I will remember until I die is, "I am Malenia, blade of Miquella."
The way Placidusax sometimes pops off (like in this video) is insane. He has it all: high hp, high damage, teleportation and oneshot potential with the lasers. His phase one sometimes holds him back if he gets poise broken right before the phase transition leaving him with not enough hp for phase 2, but he's fun to watch.
Mohg is that guy, if you put +7 mohg up against malenia, he almost always wins unless rot gets him. From sheer damage mohgs second phase is just unreal at times
@gillaliglaou2840 if you watch garden of eyes "ultimate battle of the demigods" he shows him I think 2 times talking on the entire demigod family and winning.
Bro the Soul of Cinder relentlessly marching at Maliketh while he's talking about Destined Death is just pure Dark Souls energy. As long as you have a purpose you can keep pushing forward. Sometimes even against impossible odds your Will can help you succeed.
@@porri5438 stat boost? I don't think garden of eyes boosted his stats, they just tossed him in vanilla and saw what would happen. Yeah I just re-watched it and at the very beginning it tells you that.
I loved how tactically Elden Beast was behaving: escaping into the air right as the Soul was prepping Power Within, keeping its distance during the Phase transition to avoid the immediate combo, just generally dancing around his single projectiles (until the end, at least). Great stuff! The eventual Gehrman vid is gonna be so awe-inspiring, I can feel it already...
Yeah but it takes him soooooo long to come out of the animation when he goes to second phase and he doesn't switch he weapons that often as he used to in ds3
If the game engine can handle it, I'd love to see a marathon of Darkeater Midir Vs all Elden Ring Dragons, working his way up the food chain to Placidussax.
@@Chaoslordx13 If you're getting one hit by Midir at the point in the game you fight him, Im going to say thats an issue with your build. No boss ever should be one shotting you from full health if you are an appropriate level, if they are then its an idicator that you've built your character ineffectively. M That being said, even with 40-50 Vigor in DS3, Midir can really put out some DPS. However so can Placidusaxx. So it'd be interesting to see how they deal with eachothers mobility.
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Not only that but everyone else as well, even Miyazaki confirmed in an interview that solaire did link the fire in his world so this as well applies to bosses like gundyr who was suppose to link the fire but he was too late and pretty much anyone else if they want to. And if some fails, they can again link the fire or chose not to like friede, an unkindled along with anri, Horace and more.
The Morgott fight is made even better when you take in the dialogue. The Soul of Cinder has everything to do with the curse that plagues the world of Dark Souls and Morgott's dialogue about a curse upon the thrones oddly fits out of context. And of course, that dramatic ending following it is just perf.
@@Olav_Hansen If we are being fair the only reason Soul Of Cinder lost to Radhan is bad AI. The lightning attacks barely do any damage. it would have took 1 actual sword swing to kill Radhan.
@Olav_Hansen No that makes him an AI designed to fight a player not a boss. It wasn't a coin flip either. He gets off 3 useless attacks before he was killed by Radhan. Thats not a coin flip that just stupid. Its not 50/50 its, hey let me keep doing something useless until I die!
its so interesting watching this and realizing how many more attack openings the soul of cinder gives you than almost any of the elden ring bosses like the elden ring bosses dont actually back off very often, whereas the soul of cinder will sometimes just stop and walk around i guess because elden ring gives you the option of spirit ash to distract the boss
Considering that the Soul of Cinder its an amalgam of all of our characters in the Dark Souls trilogy, essentially its like WE were fighting with the Lords of another world. Feels good to see it that way
My favorite thing about ds3 bosses is they are hard because of moveset difficulty, and not about crazy damage. You can see that in this video, where he only does 100-500 damage while the elden ring bosses do 1-2k
Thank you for bringing this up, this is my biggest gripe with the game. It has become more mainstream, and with that some of what made the soulsbourne games what they are. A mid level boss in Elden Ring( Shade Godfrey ) can take out Dark Souls 3's final boss. Heck, even freaking GIDEON can kill him. This is why Elden Ring ranks low on my soulsbourne list.
Elden ring is my fourth favorite game, so mid tier in the fromsoft games, but I think ds3, bloodborne and ds2 did things better. I prefer the bosses of ds3 as well as the areas and soundtrack. I prefer the aesthetic of bloodborne, and the beautiful world and unique story of ds2, along with the dlcs and build variety. Elden ring offers all of that but not as good as the others.@@DankSlayer_Ornstien
@@firstorderblade4432 The only game I dislike more is Ds2( only for the mechanics). BB and Sekiro have such fluid and addictive combat, Ds1 and 3 have great bosses, and Demon souls has a beautiful and encapsulating world.
@@DankSlayer_Ornstien my least fave are demons souls and ds1. Mainly because the age shows. I actually really enjoy demons souls, and the game is really unique, although I still prefer ds1 even though the second half makes me want to pull my hair out and I hate most of the bosses
I got 3 compelling matches, the one with Margott was amazing they both died together, how Radahn outmaneuvered him at the end was great, and wow Gideon fighting above his capabilities, matching Soul of cinder in Magic forcing a draw. Godfrey projection bodied him, the real Godfrey outmuscled him and when Godfrey turned into "The Legendary Super Tarnished " Daddy Loux, he Powerbombed City the hell out of Soul of Cinder. Milenia doesn't need to transform to her naked self to dispatch him. The Godskin Duo tricked him into thinking he won, and then just backstabbed him to victory. The Fire Giant turned him into a regular tarnished telling Soul of Cinder " fight the other lesser bosses or travel a bit more before facing me again boy." The Dragon lord cheesed him at the end. I was expecting him to beat the drag queen named Radagon, but I didn't expect him to beat both Malaketh and the Dildo Beast.... sorry I mean the Elden beast. Great stuff, I was shouting " Sir Gideon Ofnir the all knowing " on the Gideon fight, and I was Shouting take him to Powerbomb city Daddy Loux on that match. I hope Friede, Gael, and the Nameless King would churn out better results next time.
Yeah, on Godfrey though it is entertaining that he managed to pushed him further into his second phase meaning he was trying this time, the only problem he has is that er bosses has more health bars than his first and second combined.
@@tc-channelhobby4051 Yeah SOC tried very hard on that match and was super aggressive, I saw him striking non stop not like when he fought the other bosses where he pauses for a second, but yeah unfortunately the "Legendary Super Tarnished" Daddy Loux fought him like a madman like how Brolly when he gets crazy.
@@Frostykid94 Eh Its dsddy loux, he is pretty much unstoppable considering his attacks are literally grabs, even placidusax and many more lost to this dude, it was surreal watching him literally carry the elden beast
to be fair if SoCs lightning bolts weren't doing negative dmg i think he would of won there, he tosses one at Radahn @6:17 but it does literally nothing. Edit: okay correction his lightning bolt did 128 dmg, which in all honesty is only about enough to kill one of the goats or rabbits that run around limgrave.
@@baddogkelevra1 yea, I hopped into the premiere for a bit earlier. SoC's poise damage is still absolutely wonk, but he's at the same time far too fragile and does no damage. Honestly really disappointed. I'm sure there was a lot of work involved to make this happen, but the end result kinda blows due to the baffling balancing decisions
I mean SoC would need a big health and damage buff on top of the area scaling to do anything if you tune down the only advantage DS3 bosses have over Elden Ring's. Poise values were just a lot higher in that game.
Rooting on Cinder the whole time, but I just knew some fights he literally had no chance of winning. You should definitely get Orenstine and Smough to fight the Godskin Duo
All DS3 bosses have on average a lot more poise and poise damage than ER's, because the poise numbers were just higher. Yhorm's head is his weakspot and yet it has more poise than Radahn, who has the highest in ER before modifiers, his legs have almost 8 times as much. Not arguing that it is fair or fun to watch, but that's why you see those ridiculous staggers.
@@majster7072 Yeah replaying DS3 made me remember how hard it was to poise break most bosses, even if trying to pretend its ER with charged R2s (almost never actually worth it in DS3). But with their lower HP one or two per fight was usually GG. ER has such bloated HP values that without status effects, stance break spam, or a lot of buffs (my favorite method) boss kills are noticeably slower.
@@brayanferreira8147 Placi actually only has 160 poise vs Radahn's 200. If you count poise modifiers the ancient dragons have the highest with 600 effective poise.
Watching the Soul of Conder and Radahn both gear up for their respective second phases simultaneously is one of the most metal things I’ve ever witnessed.
And also in the the elden beast fight, its pretty amazing with the lightning he unleashed like thst pretty much seals the deal as the lightnings are literally wizzing through the air and damaging the elden beast, pretty ironic considering this is the kind elden beast does.
Yeah, the Fire Giant vs Yhorm would be great, the unstoppable force againts the Unstoppable Force, the Immovable object vs the Immovable object. but you know what? a tarnished or a Chosen Undead would have an easier time with Yhorm than the Fire Giant. Now Rykard vs Yhorm would be great too, Gimmick boss vs Gimmick boss fight. Lol
@@Frostykid94 Yhorm would win any day against Rykard because he would be immune to his constant lava aoe. However I'd like to see him against Fire Giant/Rykard just to see how he compares to them in height
@@MrGoul78 he is much smaller. I mean, look at comparison between him and cathedral giants(who are in Fire Giant league). Radahn is in fact much closer to his height
Honestly I was really surprised by the Elden Beast fight. I figured it would have move around too much and taken advantage of the fact that SOC doesn't jump or dash enough to dodge anything. But it ended up being really satisfying, I kind of imagined it like Beowulf fighting the dragon.
Bro straight up marched through Godricks fire Sweep like, "I am the living incarnation of the first Flame and those who lit it and you wanna try to BURN me?"
Its insane to see how slow and clunky looking are some of the older DS bosses compared to Eldenring bosses.Maliketh vs SOC was like a turtle trying to fight an agile lion.
I find it both fascinating and interesting that we can not only import bosses from DS3 into elden ring, but also armored core stuff into it as well to get scale comparison
we need to find a standard to scale DS3 bosses to so they can be on ER's level, maybe find all the weapons both games share, compare their stats, and find the average changes in percents, and then boost all the bosses stats by roughly that percent value for when we add DS3 bosses to ER
No Astel star of darkness? Consecrated snowfields death rite bird, consecrated snowfields erdtree avatar, Magma Wynn Theoderix? Full grown fallen star beast, Royal knight Loretta? Other than that pretty good mod. I have a feeling Midir can beat them all due to his poise, poise damage, extremely mobile moveset.
This is a really interesting litmus test of power. Radahn and Morgott both are basically equivalent in power to SoC. Endgame DS3 is equivalent to midgame Elden Ring.
It's arguable considering he defeated the endgame bosses in rad and the elden beast and moreso is maliketh, the one being that can literally kill anyone, even malenia.
@@dudeman7826 yes but the damage remain the same the only thing that increase in him is his health because even is thunder and magics are useless heck he can't even do the things that melania and malikit can do and even then he was still out much in terms of aoe and hacks and on millennia it was already decided anyway considering she is one of if not most hardest bosses in from soft games history
When you think about how much less damage you do in DS3 vs ER (really starts to show around DTS), and the fact that SoC phase 2 is a lot of kicks/grabs, I'd say he did pretty well.
It’s because ER enemies have much higher numbers. But really this applies to the whole game. A 700 AR Claymore in ER is not the same as a 700 AR claymore in DS3. The stats are relative to their own games. That’s why Malenia absolutely smoked Maria. To like an absurd degree.
ive never played any of the souls games, but ive seen so many of the lore videos and I wish your character looked like this when they took on the frenzied flame.
the elden beast fight was the best, it was so stunning and mesmerizing, almost like a dream, it utilizes the boss design and how good adjustment and work you did on modeling SoC, well done.
Why were they scaled so weirdly? The early bosses were scaled to match him and then the endgame bosses were taking out half his healthbar with a single hit.
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Please give us the theme songs for creta the fallen crucible and the new godskin duo please we have been waited for the theme songs and both happened happened please give us the theme songs please like what you did to Odeon
champ gundyr would be nice
Damage is scaled completely different in elden ring compared to dark souls three soul of cinder should be doing almost triple damage but sense it's scaled for dark souls 3 all his moves are weak
@baraovermelho3956 thing is he is not even the fastest even in D's, gael, nk, vordt, gundyr and friede are much faster than him.
Soul of Cinder did amazing when you take into consideration that enemies in Elden Ring have incredibly high stats compared to enemies in Dark Souls 3.
It said 11 min in the video they upscaled soul of cinders stats but it really didn’t seem to make a difference I agree soul of cinder did well considering lol
@@zero22ifySoC is also very noticably squishy even in souls 3, which didnt help him much at all
They upscaled his stats and that maliketh win seemed like he had to retake it 10 times to make maliketh loose for the vid😂
@@zero22ify Upscaling means you increase the multipliers of something, If that something has inherintely less starting numbers even if you upscale it to match something with higher stats the difference will still be quite visible.
Especially with dmg dealt. You can see DS3 bosses and enemies deal considerably less dmg than the elden ring counterparts even when upscaled since their base dmg is lower meant to match DS3 player stats and the availiable defense mechanisms of the player.
He buffed the Soul of Cinder to Radagons stats
I love Radahn's "Woooo" at 6:29
Its like hes celebrating defeating a worthy opponent.
ironic since his dream is to be killed by a worthy opponent
This duel with Morgott was 10/10, the best standoff ever
You need to watch isshhin, genichiro and owl vs demon of hatred. At some points they dodge and vombine moves, it looks like an anime battle.
T'was a kingly duel
@@gorgitI can't find the video anywhere. Can you send the link or give me a hint on the name of the channel or the video?
@@prowers2623 the video is called 'genichiro, isshin and owl vs demon of hatred' by benzoin gum.
The part your looking for starts at 7:20 and ends at 7:40, but trust me, youll know when you see it.
@@prowers2623 genichiro, isshin and owl vs demon of hatred.
The part your looking for starts at 7:20 and ends at 7:40.
that ending with morgott was beautiful
morgott has an amazing moveset and seeing him actually fight with a boss of similar scaling to his is always a treat. too bad he always gets poise broken in a few hits, reaches phase 2, tries his sword rain attack and dies while charging it.
The intent behind him is to catch players off guard with a combination of very fast lengthy combos chained into slow delayed attacks, but that doesn't screw bosses over as it does to players.
Yeah it was..
@@gillaliglaou2840I don't know his HP but it seems to be kinda low, most times I see morgott bossfights against other players they kill him kinda easily compared to the other bosses, and this makes me kinda sad because his moveset is spectacular
@@thechickenslittl1373 yeah that's another part of the issue. by the time you get to morgott you could have easily finished ranni's questline, killed rykard, radahn, the godskin apostle in caelid divine tower, sewer mohg, rennala, that giant dragon in caelid, obtained mimic tear, have access to a somber 8 weapon (I don't know if you can get a higher somber weapon at this point, I know there is a somber 10 in mohgwyn palace and you can go there if you do varre's questline but idk about the somber 9, and besides, most new players don't go there early). Basically, if you explore a big chunk of what's doable by the point you reach him, he becomes a quick fight. There is plenty of stuff that's dragging him down and fromsoft probably didn't buff him because of "what if you get to him properly leveled?".
@@thechickenslittl1373 there are plenty of people on reddit who complain about him being unfair and most of the time it's melee users who aren't overleveled.
People gotta keep in mind ER enemies just have much higher numbers. But really this applies to the whole game. A 700 AR Claymore in ER is not the same as a 700 AR claymore in DS3.
The stats are relative to their own games. That’s why Malenia absolutely smoked Maria with original stats. To like an absurd degree.
I feel like Elden Ring might have pushed too much towards the "RPG stats" part of the combat that it leads to situations like this as a consequence. Souls games usually balanced out the numbers well where pure skill will still make a lot of progress, but ER feels like the opposite philosophy of Sekiro where stats have a big impact.
Exactly, they are not even close to a 1 to 1 comparison
It has to be, due to all the items and things that are available, or without this “buff” the game would be to easy. In short fromsoft takes spirit ashes as well as buffs into consideration, then makes the boss appropriately
@@stwbf2729 Yeah you don't even need uber meta builds to hit crazy numbers. My standard co-op build just stacks a lot of fire and repeated attack buffs so that my weapons have ~1100 AR before the repeated attack buffs kick in. Even with the bloated boss HP it takes me like half a minute or less to kill most of them (main exceptions are Malenia who has few safe openings and Elden Beast which keeps running away.)
For real dawg like ER, especially in the endgame, is just straight up unbalanced asf
SOC stun locking Draconic tree sentinel was so satisfying....Only thing I think is unfair is how little damage SOC does in general, his lightning bolts only seem to tickle the ER bosses.
and then hoarah loux stun locking SoC, lol
Yeah idk what happened with the bolts, I don't think er lightning defences are any higher on average
Elden ring bosses tend do have more hp/resistances and do way more damage than any bosses from the past games.
@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTubit even has to do as well lore wise considering in ds, pretty much everyone is at there weakest when the main protagonists arrives whereas in elden ring, you can still see bosses are at there prime like Godfrey and even malenia that fought radahn and the world is still relatively new and flourishing even though some are bad but not as bad as ds.
Even radahn that has lost his mind to baser instincts is still well relatively young by dark souls age and can still access his powers.
@@tc-channelhobby4051
Not really, many enemies in Dark Souls have either no indication of having lost their power, or it is hard to say. In the soul of cinder's case it is true that the fire is slowly winding down, but at the same time it has a vast arsenal of abilities from all of the previous lords of cinder, so it's not clear how strong it would be. For some other bosses it seems quite clear that they must be extremely strong. Gael by the end of it will be perhaps the most ancient being alive and will have just eaten so much of the Dark Soul that when he bleeds it is the blood of the dark soul we see, not his own. He might be the closest thing to a fully powered Lord we see at any point, and we still beat him.
Really, its not about lore, it is about balancing. Elden Ring generally has larger health pools and more damage than DS3 across the board. In DS3 the highest possible health is 2122 and in Elden Ring it is 3243. But in DS2 it was even higher, in that game you could hit 3827. And before you think thats because DS2 happens before DS3 and therefore should lorewise have more power, in DS1 the max health was 2633.
TLDR, its just different numbers based on design and balancing.
It's hard to catch when it's sped up but it's so funny seeing the soc kick the literal god devouring serpent to the ground at 28:58
the fact that its sped up makes it funny as hell lmao. SOC just *bonk* and it falls over plus the sound effect just adds to it
Lmfaooooo😂
He got SOCked
That's the horse ring touch.
How the fuck did you see that? I had to rewatch it and lower the speed
Can we all take a moment and look at how amazing this is???? Like its insane how far mods have come.
Nah this is some 5 year old mods. We already had Bloodbourne vs dark souls 3 videos while back
@@muramasa870shut up
This shit had been happening for years g this ain’t nothing special no more😂
@@Pugerino yeah, there are a lot more advanced mods than this one for years now
Even have vergil's JUDGEMENT NUT mod😂
Gideon’s ending dialogue was PERFECT.
He has the best dying dialogue. Then comes Malenia
Maliketh is a close 2nd
Morgott’s speech at the end takes it for me. It’s one of the only moments in Elden Ring where character writing is actually able to shine. A demigod cursed at birth, but ever so loyal to the Erdtree, laments that his service was not enough.
@@MediaXEditsMaliketh has 2 dying dialogues and they are the best. He is also the only boss who has two versions for each of his dialogues.
@@anthony-uh7wn That sad "Tarnished?... Why?" almost broke me. Poor Maliketh.
I didn't realize Malenia had a dying dialogue lol... j/k, I beat her eventually. But one thing I will remember until I die is, "I am Malenia, blade of Miquella."
Radahn cluched with 1 hp a true legend
Radahn is The Text Book Definition Of “Wow This Guy is a fucking legend”
Radahn is weaker in lore so inaccurate even if it is a different lore
Radahn was just chill like that
🤓
He ated 2 fucking lightings, what clutch???
Letting Godrick finish cutting off his arm in the cutscene is the sign of a true professional!
I command thy kneeeel!!!!
Professionals have standards
The way Placidusax sometimes pops off (like in this video) is insane. He has it all: high hp, high damage, teleportation and oneshot potential with the lasers. His phase one sometimes holds him back if he gets poise broken right before the phase transition leaving him with not enough hp for phase 2, but he's fun to watch.
You can also just stand behind his back foot and he pretty much can't do anything about it
i like how placisdax did the dragon breath attack as the soul of cinder died it was lkike the dragon turnt him to dust
Mohg is that guy, if you put +7 mohg up against malenia, he almost always wins unless rot gets him. From sheer damage mohgs second phase is just unreal at times
@@Tau_Aquila my favourite bosses in the game are radagon, morgott, placidusax and mohg so I'd love to see an NG+7 mohg in action if he's that strong.
@gillaliglaou2840 if you watch garden of eyes "ultimate battle of the demigods" he shows him I think 2 times talking on the entire demigod family and winning.
Bro the Soul of Cinder relentlessly marching at Maliketh while he's talking about Destined Death is just pure Dark Souls energy. As long as you have a purpose you can keep pushing forward. Sometimes even against impossible odds your Will can help you succeed.
Who else to embody pure dark souls energy then the amalgamation of every chosen undead and every lord to have linked the flame
Maliketh whould have smoked him if he didnt get the crazy stat boosts on top of the 99% stagger rate😅
@@localtincan5666 I killed him with a stick. What a guy
@@porri5438 stat boost? I don't think garden of eyes boosted his stats, they just tossed him in vanilla and saw what would happen. Yeah I just re-watched it and at the very beginning it tells you that.
@@porri5438Cinder would obliterate him if he didnt get that stupid health drain stat.
I loved how tactically Elden Beast was behaving: escaping into the air right as the Soul was prepping Power Within, keeping its distance during the Phase transition to avoid the immediate combo, just generally dancing around his single projectiles (until the end, at least). Great stuff!
The eventual Gehrman vid is gonna be so awe-inspiring, I can feel it already...
elden beast just always runs like that no matter what
Seeing soul of cinder perform that second phase combo on gideon was satisfying
but Hora Lux suplexed SoC while SoC couldn't make a grab to Gideon exept the Poise breaker of Gwyn(the for slashes that throw you in the air)
It was a strange feeling of pride, and nostalgia, seeing poor Gideon get rocked by an old friend.
Nah.
It's the air juggle that gets me.
Yeah but it takes him soooooo long to come out of the animation when he goes to second phase and he doesn't switch he weapons that often as he used to in ds3
If the game engine can handle it, I'd love to see a marathon of Darkeater Midir Vs all Elden Ring Dragons, working his way up the food chain to Placidussax.
Just imagine the scene where both midir and placidussax charging their beam attack
FINALLY, A WORTHY OPPONENT! 💪
Except they would need to nerf him... midir is a long fight with alot of insta deaths or close too...
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If you're getting one hit by Midir at the point in the game you fight him, Im going to say thats an issue with your build. No boss ever should be one shotting you from full health if you are an appropriate level, if they are then its an idicator that you've built your character ineffectively.
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That being said, even with 40-50 Vigor in DS3, Midir can really put out some DPS. However so can Placidusaxx. So it'd be interesting to see how they deal with eachothers mobility.
someone did it. Midir dominated the fight against placidusax
Now we need FRIEDE, GAEL, THE TWIN PRINCES AND THE ABYSS WATCHERS
Edit: Holy fuck i've never had such a big amount of likes and comments ;-;
Thank u guys so much
And my dear dragonslayer armour
Midir, demon prince
No pls not the coneheads...
Nameless King, Champion Gundyr, Pontiff Sulyvahn and Aldrich too. And maybe demon prince
Artorias in the background:
Soul of cinder is a heart wrenching character. A fusion of souls from every unded who linked za 1st flame. Sounds like most anime mc
Not only that but everyone else as well, even Miyazaki confirmed in an interview that solaire did link the fire in his world so this as well applies to bosses like gundyr who was suppose to link the fire but he was too late and pretty much anyone else if they want to.
And if some fails, they can again link the fire or chose not to like friede, an unkindled along with anri, Horace and more.
Wdym? Most anime Mc’s are dark hair teenagers with the same haircut.
@@buklau837 generic male with a "im 14 and this is deep" backstory to explain why they have canon plot armor while still attending high school.
SoC has a piece of every challenge runner out there. Let that sink in.
@@perrytran9504 Give soc a roll dodge and he instanty dominate
Something about seeing soul of cinder in elden ring makes me incredibly happy.
That finisher on the Elden Beast was legendary. I was rooting to myself for the Soul the whole time too.
Well Soul Of Cinder IS everyone who linked the First Flame.
That's quite a few dragonslayers.
SoC: "Oh, so you want to use a bullshit homing swarm spell? Fine, then! Here's a bullshit homing swarm spell. Ya dick."
EB: "Fuck."
@@diodedrake2946but why is he so tall our character are always short as a tall guy I never understood that
GAEL!!!! WE NEED GAEL TO DESTROY THE LANDS BETWEEN!!!
Gael would be beat by half of ER boss like SoC
@@neofalz7643 only cos that the scaling is a bit off. I'd love to know how this channel decide how much damage DS3 bosses in ER do.
Gael is way stronger than SOC
Idk Gael does better damage than SoC and he has way more health. Plus his moveset would make him very aggressive so I think he’d do well
I feel like Gael will die on starscourage rahdan of meteor slam that's the one that has me in my mind
The Morgott fight is made even better when you take in the dialogue. The Soul of Cinder has everything to do with the curse that plagues the world of Dark Souls and Morgott's dialogue about a curse upon the thrones oddly fits out of context. And of course, that dramatic ending following it is just perf.
Bro's getting flamed for a couple of these, but that Morgott fight and the Radagon fight was just stellar
This is how I imagine if the frenzied flame were a boss trying to take over would look like
I expect him to be at about radahn level of strength
Turns out I hit the nail on the head more then I'd imagined.
Godfrey / hourah loux is an old man, yet shredded. Gael is old, but yet, bears 3 phases, phase 2 cutscene, phase 3 soul burst.
@@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51 I think you answered to the wrong person, buddy.
@@Olav_Hansen If we are being fair the only reason Soul Of Cinder lost to Radhan is bad AI. The lightning attacks barely do any damage. it would have took 1 actual sword swing to kill Radhan.
@@Reous losing or winning to radahn was a coin flip, that makes him "as good as" in my opinion.
@Olav_Hansen No that makes him an AI designed to fight a player not a boss. It wasn't a coin flip either. He gets off 3 useless attacks before he was killed by Radhan. Thats not a coin flip that just stupid. Its not 50/50 its, hey let me keep doing something useless until I die!
its so interesting watching this and realizing how many more attack openings the soul of cinder gives you than almost any of the elden ring bosses
like the elden ring bosses dont actually back off very often, whereas the soul of cinder will sometimes just stop and walk around
i guess because elden ring gives you the option of spirit ash to distract the boss
Champion Gundyr with his aggressive nature and forward momentum moveset once properly upscaled seems like awesome fit for Elden Ring
Considering that the Soul of Cinder its an amalgam of all of our characters in the Dark Souls trilogy, essentially its like WE were fighting with the Lords of another world. Feels good to see it that way
Seeing Soul of Cinder lose is a nice change of pace. He's always winning when I play. :(
skill issues
@daro-san3006 Oh absolutely.
@@fat_mason In the wise words of the roly poly lords of old: *GIT GUD SCRUB!*
Isnt sof cinder one of the easier last bosses for a souls game lol ?
@@TheDomino12121 nah, Saint sword Ishin is easier
It would be so awesome to see Dark Souls 1&3 really go to war with Elden Ring
What about dark souls 2?
Yea I mean dark souls 2 would gang to death elden ring, and no one could avoid them😂
There are a few ds2 bosses I'd like to see as well like sir alonne fume knight veldstadt sihn etc
You'd need to scale up the DS side a lot, ER has near universally higher stats.
And add Bloodborne and Sekiro.
My favorite thing about ds3 bosses is they are hard because of moveset difficulty, and not about crazy damage.
You can see that in this video, where he only does 100-500 damage while the elden ring bosses do 1-2k
Thank you for bringing this up, this is my biggest gripe with the game. It has become more mainstream, and with that some of what made the soulsbourne games what they are. A mid level boss in Elden Ring( Shade Godfrey ) can take out Dark Souls 3's final boss. Heck, even freaking GIDEON can kill him. This is why Elden Ring ranks low on my soulsbourne list.
Elden ring is my fourth favorite game, so mid tier in the fromsoft games, but I think ds3, bloodborne and ds2 did things better.
I prefer the bosses of ds3 as well as the areas and soundtrack. I prefer the aesthetic of bloodborne, and the beautiful world and unique story of ds2, along with the dlcs and build variety. Elden ring offers all of that but not as good as the others.@@DankSlayer_Ornstien
@@firstorderblade4432 The only game I dislike more is Ds2( only for the mechanics). BB and Sekiro have such fluid and addictive combat, Ds1 and 3 have great bosses, and Demon souls has a beautiful and encapsulating world.
@@DankSlayer_Ornstien my least fave are demons souls and ds1. Mainly because the age shows. I actually really enjoy demons souls, and the game is really unique, although I still prefer ds1 even though the second half makes me want to pull my hair out and I hate most of the bosses
Elden Ring has a bigger health pool than DS3 however
And better armor
You can’t really compare them in terms of stats
Godfrey is such a unit he makes SOC look like a normal, maybe somewhat taller human.
Maliketh and Elden beast were pretty unexpected
They were BS
The way y’all transitioned to placidusax after Gideon’s fight was extraordinary. Then seeing placi face off with SOC really showed gideons words truth
Seeing SoC go into second phase while covered in death flame against malikath is so cool
I got 3 compelling matches, the one with Margott was amazing they both died together, how Radahn outmaneuvered him at the end was great, and wow Gideon fighting above his capabilities, matching Soul of cinder in Magic forcing a draw. Godfrey projection bodied him, the real Godfrey outmuscled him and when Godfrey turned into "The Legendary Super Tarnished " Daddy Loux, he Powerbombed City the hell out of Soul of Cinder. Milenia doesn't need to transform to her naked self to dispatch him. The Godskin Duo tricked him into thinking he won, and then just backstabbed him to victory. The Fire Giant turned him into a regular tarnished telling Soul of Cinder " fight the other lesser bosses or travel a bit more before facing me again boy." The Dragon lord cheesed him at the end. I was expecting him to beat the drag queen named Radagon, but I didn't expect him to beat both Malaketh and the Dildo Beast.... sorry I mean the Elden beast. Great stuff, I was shouting " Sir Gideon Ofnir the all knowing " on the Gideon fight, and I was Shouting take him to Powerbomb city Daddy Loux on that match. I hope Friede, Gael, and the Nameless King would churn out better results next time.
Yeah, on Godfrey though it is entertaining that he managed to pushed him further into his second phase meaning he was trying this time, the only problem he has is that er bosses has more health bars than his first and second combined.
@@tc-channelhobby4051 Yeah SOC tried very hard on that match and was super aggressive, I saw him striking non stop not like when he fought the other bosses where he pauses for a second, but yeah unfortunately the "Legendary Super Tarnished" Daddy Loux fought him like a madman like how Brolly when he gets crazy.
@@Frostykid94 Eh Its dsddy loux, he is pretty much unstoppable considering his attacks are literally grabs, even placidusax and many more lost to this dude, it was surreal watching him literally carry the elden beast
to be fair if SoCs lightning bolts weren't doing negative dmg i think he would of won there, he tosses one at Radahn @6:17 but it does literally nothing.
Edit: okay correction his lightning bolt did 128 dmg, which in all honesty is only about enough to kill one of the goats or rabbits that run around limgrave.
That final slash of SoC on EB was perfectly angled to be the same as the chest mark on EB, placed right upon it as the killing blow.
What a treat, thank you for making this true. Godfrey dunkining Cindy was a thing i didn't know i was looking for. :D
I don't understand how radahn managed to squeeze that victory in.
Rng
@@Exeternal_Beyonder_Of_Doomsday nah that was bad RNG
he was just lucky enough for his broken hitbox to work
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 SOC was lucky enough his artificially increased poise damage got him that far.
@@rjsblanket3024ds3 just has way higher poise numbers and er
@@pastesir3025 it is the same
I hope the poise damage has been tuned down so the ER bosses don't stagger every 3 hits this time
Nope. It’s still ridiculous
Without it
he can't do shit
@@baddogkelevra1 yea, I hopped into the premiere for a bit earlier. SoC's poise damage is still absolutely wonk, but he's at the same time far too fragile and does no damage.
Honestly really disappointed. I'm sure there was a lot of work involved to make this happen, but the end result kinda blows due to the baffling balancing decisions
Poor Maliketh was cheated out of his win.
I mean SoC would need a big health and damage buff on top of the area scaling to do anything if you tune down the only advantage DS3 bosses have over Elden Ring's. Poise values were just a lot higher in that game.
Soul of Cinder beating Radagon and the Elden Beast was excellent.
TBF, he would have lost if it was treated as one fight and his health wasn't restored.
What a savage bro! SoC is one my favorite bosses on concept alone.
Rooting on Cinder the whole time, but I just knew some fights he literally had no chance of winning.
You should definitely get Orenstine and Smough to fight the Godskin Duo
14:49 Gideon dodging the stab by casting Black Flame Ritual was so smooth
By Gwyn the SoC is pretty in this. Lovely visuals on everything with it, the flames, the magic, it’s all pretty.
14:19 NAAAAAAAH bro SoC kicking Maliketh was pure disrespect lmaoooo he was like "Just die already you fucking mutt"
My main issue here is that SoC is doing waaaay too much posture damage, more than even Godfrey or Maliketh.
All DS3 bosses have on average a lot more poise and poise damage than ER's, because the poise numbers were just higher. Yhorm's head is his weakspot and yet it has more poise than Radahn, who has the highest in ER before modifiers, his legs have almost 8 times as much. Not arguing that it is fair or fun to watch, but that's why you see those ridiculous staggers.
Bosses in Elden Ring seem to be generally more powerful, so it kinda works as a balancing feature
@@majster7072 Yeah replaying DS3 made me remember how hard it was to poise break most bosses, even if trying to pretend its ER with charged R2s (almost never actually worth it in DS3). But with their lower HP one or two per fight was usually GG. ER has such bloated HP values that without status effects, stance break spam, or a lot of buffs (my favorite method) boss kills are noticeably slower.
@@erandigael2878yo tenía entendido que el señor dragón placidusax era el que tenía la postura más alta en el juego y el segundo era radhan 🤔
@@brayanferreira8147 Placi actually only has 160 poise vs Radahn's 200. If you count poise modifiers the ancient dragons have the highest with 600 effective poise.
Watching the Soul of Conder and Radahn both gear up for their respective second phases simultaneously is one of the most metal things I’ve ever witnessed.
And also in the the elden beast fight, its pretty amazing with the lightning he unleashed like thst pretty much seals the deal as the lightnings are literally wizzing through the air and damaging the elden beast, pretty ironic considering this is the kind elden beast does.
22:30
This whole sequence was just beautiful
I want Yhorm vs ALL Elden Ring Bosses :)
Yeah, the Fire Giant vs Yhorm would be great, the unstoppable force againts the Unstoppable Force, the Immovable object vs the Immovable object. but you know what? a tarnished or a Chosen Undead would have an easier time with Yhorm than the Fire Giant. Now Rykard vs Yhorm would be great too, Gimmick boss vs Gimmick boss fight. Lol
@@Frostykid94 Yhorm would win any day against Rykard because he would be immune to his constant lava aoe. However I'd like to see him against Fire Giant/Rykard just to see how he compares to them in height
@@MrGoul78 he is much smaller. I mean, look at comparison between him and cathedral giants(who are in Fire Giant league). Radahn is in fact much closer to his height
Its funny thinking how easily soul folded godrick as if to say "you call yourself a lord do you? How come you never linked the flame?"
Honestly I was really surprised by the Elden Beast fight. I figured it would have move around too much and taken advantage of the fact that SOC doesn't jump or dash enough to dodge anything.
But it ended up being really satisfying, I kind of imagined it like Beowulf fighting the dragon.
Imagine the bosses looking at Soul of Cinder and being like "wtf Is that the frenzied flame in human form?"
Very cool, i want to see the nameless King, gael and midir try on the bosses if u can
Bro straight up marched through Godricks fire Sweep like, "I am the living incarnation of the first Flame and those who lit it and you wanna try to BURN me?"
Mohg was basically did the same exact move and did almost 7k damage poor souls of cinder was not expect 80% fore resistance
Godrick screaming is one of my fave parts of his battle its nice to see a video where its not cut short
Knowing the lore of Soul of Cinder, this feels like Dark Souls' version of Sephiroths "I will never be a memory" 😢
Thank you for leaving in Godricks scream, gets me giggling every time.
Being a DS3 boss has some benefits in ER. Even with less hp, they deal a lot more poise damage
19:52 Hoarah Loux tossing up SoC for the slam was the craziest thing I’ve seen all day I wasn’t expecting that animation to work
2:16 my man is just having fun.
Seeing Gideon wombo combo’d was amazing
Its insane to see how slow and clunky looking are some of the older DS bosses compared to Eldenring bosses.Maliketh vs SOC was like a turtle trying to fight an agile lion.
Soc isnt anywhere near the fastest souls boss tho, but he makes up for that with aggression and versatility
@@kuru-yami9416ye Gael and nameless king were much faster compared to him iirc
There’s something so pleasing to see one of my most favorite bosses effortlessly kill my least favorite bosses.
seriously impressed by that elden beast one
He fucking busts out the lightning storm I've never seen before for the kill. Leaves just enough for one stylish slash across Beasts scar.
I love these videos cuz they settle, at least from a gameplay perspective, debates between characters
I find it both fascinating and interesting that we can not only import bosses from DS3 into elden ring, but also armored core stuff into it as well to get scale comparison
Makes me wonder if we’ll see Gael make his Elden Ring debut
14:20 that kick was personal
It's a bit funny how _slow_ Soul of Cinder looks compared to some of the ER bosses.
22:30 one of the most beautiful clashing of swords ever
I swear sould of cinder has way more attacks than we see in here? I remember him using miracles and magic a lot more...
we need to find a standard to scale DS3 bosses to so they can be on ER's level, maybe find all the weapons both games share, compare their stats, and find the average changes in percents, and then boost all the bosses stats by roughly that percent value for when we add DS3 bosses to ER
Low key wierd seeing phase 2 be so much weaker when I remember it being harder
Its because the moveset change and the damage buff
He stopped doing player things and did boss things
yeah, the sunlight bolt only deals minimum damage for some reason
@@Fire.and.Forget remember most ER bosses resist holy damage
@@demonkingsparda His lightning is holy and not lightning ?
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no holy damage in ds3. only magic, fire lightning and dark
that first hit against rennala was downright disrespectful
No Astel star of darkness? Consecrated snowfields death rite bird, consecrated snowfields erdtree avatar, Magma Wynn Theoderix? Full grown fallen star beast, Royal knight Loretta?
Other than that pretty good mod. I have a feeling Midir can beat them all due to his poise, poise damage, extremely mobile moveset.
And Bell Bearing Hunter from Caelid now that we're at it.
I have been waiting to see this happen for so long
I just noticed this, but Rennala’s staff kinda looks like the coiled sword.
Radahn and Soul of Cinder, the two chads face off, that was a glorious showdown befitting both their reputations.
So Dark Souls III and Elden Ring run on pretty much the same engine? Not that I'm surprised, but even then.. That's pretty impressive!!!
That Draconic Tree Sentinel is really pulling his own weight
This is a really interesting litmus test of power. Radahn and Morgott both are basically equivalent in power to SoC. Endgame DS3 is equivalent to midgame Elden Ring.
It's arguable considering he defeated the endgame bosses in rad and the elden beast and moreso is maliketh, the one being that can literally kill anyone, even malenia.
@@tc-channelhobby4051SoC was buffed to higher stats after fire giant to stand a chance against maliketh and malenia 😂
@@dudeman7826 yes but the damage remain the same the only thing that increase in him is his health because even is thunder and magics are useless heck he can't even do the things that melania and malikit can do and even then he was still out much in terms of aoe and hacks and on millennia it was already decided anyway considering she is one of if not most hardest bosses in from soft games history
When you think about how much less damage you do in DS3 vs ER (really starts to show around DTS), and the fact that SoC phase 2 is a lot of kicks/grabs, I'd say he did pretty well.
Malenia destroyed him
22:45
I think this was the only moment we see the lord of cinder back away in fear
Laisser Midir ou Gael géré malenia les implora de lui laisser la vie sauf
She heals by hit not really fair ...
@@_------------_ the poise damage from the DS bosses doesn't make any of these fair
Maliketh: ..Why covet Destined Death ? To kill what ?
SoC: *Ashen ones..*
Damn, SoC got his ass kicked for the majority of these….
It’s because ER enemies have much higher numbers. But really this applies to the whole game. A 700 AR Claymore in ER is not the same as a 700 AR claymore in DS3.
The stats are relative to their own games. That’s why Malenia absolutely smoked Maria. To like an absurd degree.
It depends on luck, he has to many phases but doesnt have the health to use them all.
Now you’ve gotten me excited to see my beloved Darkeater beat as many of ER’s bosses as he possibly can
We need the nameless king , sister friede and gael in elden ring or hey i think darkeater midir would be cool too
ive never played any of the souls games, but ive seen so many of the lore videos and I wish your character looked like this when they took on the frenzied flame.
16:03 i love how gideon calls him a tarnished and cannot become lord
“Mfer I’m literally THE Lord of Cinder”
Gideon: tf... is a lord of... cinder? *dies*
Soc: has bro not heard of dark souls?
Any plan for bringing Nameless, Friede and Gael to ER? 🤔
Bro was channeling his inner Anakin Skywalker during that Rennala fight 😂
Can you get midir and gael in elden ring too?
Midir vs Placidussax
@@donjandel midir wins. He will just stunlock him
the elden beast fight was the best, it was so stunning and mesmerizing, almost like a dream, it utilizes the boss design and how good adjustment and work you did on modeling SoC, well done.
Well i guess its confirmed soul of cinder can be elden lord too ❤
Why were they scaled so weirdly? The early bosses were scaled to match him and then the endgame bosses were taking out half his healthbar with a single hit.
Some of you need to quit being butt hurt fan boys and enjoy the work he put into this.