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So it makes sense why the explosive effect doesn’t work: you’re trading higher single point damage on one enemy with a little bit of AOE from the explosion (that gets amped by the explosive legendary effect and demo expert) for no AOE but now the bolt itself is chaining to other enemies in the area doing more damage overall to more enemies just spread out. One shoting super mutants and hurting the others a bit vs clearing a whole room of ghouls in shot. Explosive effects not working on the alternating muzzle sucks but look at this way: that’s 5 whole perk slots of demo expert you don’t have to take now and you’re still getting a pretty powerful version of the TC that fills a different niche. I personally will be using the direct current muzzle. I like the idea of a plasma caster that’s cooler looking, lighter ammo, AOE, no projectile travel time, and cry babies seething on Reddit about explosions in their post apocalyptic futuristic war game. However it does suck that fractures doesn’t work. It should work on the AC muzzle, that’d be so fun.
Im honestly alright with the Alternate current muzzle removing the demolition expert perk benefit as the weapon is no longer "explosive" in nature. It's just a heavy tesla rifle now and that is just fine. 😎
Yeah that I don't mind at all, it's still good and packs a punch and more than likely I'll have two versions of the cannon when it's released, one with this muzzle and another with the Direct Current Muzzle, for max DPS and Explosives 😊
@@P3nAlPineapple Indeed this way the Tesla Cannon offers 2 different, but still viable ways to build it. The Heavy Gunner one and the Heavy Gunner/Demo Expert deluxe edition for those who want the booms.
@@Mestari1Gaming 100% and it's great that we have an alternative version to use and can modify it in different ways 😊 I would love to see a buff to this muzzle, if this is the direction they're going, just so that it could still be somewhat as powerful as full boom boom version 😅 Let's say boom boom version does 700 damage, then the Alternate could do in and around 670-680. Just not a drop off of 91 🙏
I didnt realize demo expert even adds to the actual number for explosive prefix, it doesnt on my gat plas its just something i test when shooting taking card on and off
Personally I actually like that it is different because from a design and lore perspective, it makes sense. The versions we see in FO3 and NV we designed as a direct result of the BoS modifying the original plans to fit the tesla coil and then the Enclave modified what we seen in NV and Elijah modified the other version, so that makes sense. But I've personally advocated for that if this weapon were to come to Fallout 76 at some point, that it would look a bit different or seem like an original concept or design of what the pre war Tesla Cannon actually looked like, which I think is cool! I personally don't have anything against the FO4 version, but the fact it was a creation club mod, I'm kinda like....eehhhh is it really a part of the story, I mean yes and no. Yes it was fun to use in Fo4 but I much prefer the FO3 and NV versions 😅
@@ArandomPerson7996 so the BoS needed the Tesla coil to power their redesigned version of the original Tesla Cannon designs so that it could be used for taking down Enclave vertibirds which produced a much larger AOE compared to the original design. The Tesla Cannon we have in 76 should technically be a pre cursor to that version and even though it can take down vertibirds in this game, the comparison of damage between the two games in terms of performance is vastly different. I.e in Fallout 3 we couldn’t have a Bloodied Explosive Tesla Cannon so in terms of performance and damage, they scale very differently
I was once fighting the sbq on a 10 year old xbox, almost the entire server including me was using legacy gatling plasmas and it didnt crash. not to mention they could add a setting to turn off particle effects but bethesda isnt about making good decision and making the game fun.
I find it funny that Bethesda typically resort to adjusting the damage when it comes to balancing, but with a powerful weapon like the plasma cannon it would be easier to give it all the bells and whistles and balance things like ammo cost per shot and fire rate. They should look at weapons like the plasma caster that can one shot single enemies and ask what would make people want to use the tesla cannon instead. On a slightly unrelated note they could do this with melee weapons too, for example, if two handed weapons could knock over and ragdoll enemies and non-auto melee weapons could hit multiple enemies at once via a directional attack like in Skyrim.
It was surprising and disappointing for me when I realised, that there is no ash pile animation when we kill npcs with the tesla cannon while tesla carbine has this animation..(
@@Average1212 I tested this with one gun army while using the 4th star effect for a hour or so and got nothing from it with the alternate muzzle. I mean I tried… I really tried 😅
Ive been wanting the tesla cannon in 76 sense it was added to the creation club for Fallout 4, and i really hope they do it right before it hits live servers. Its VATS accuracy and alternate firing are pretty bad, and from other videos ive seen its damage isnt too much to write home about. If they listen to the feedback it has the potential to be a really solid weapon!
To put it into context and I probably should have highlighted this, which in a way is probably beneficial to watch my previous videos, however the Tesla Cannon is an Explosive Heavy Gun, not an explosive launcher, an explosive heavy gun that produces energy damage. So it's not an energy weapon that's an explosive heavy gun, it's categorised as an Explosive Heavy Gun so naturally the explosive effect & heavy gun effect pre determines it's capabilities regardless of attachments etc.. The fact that it removes the explosive effect is what is surprising here compared to a Tesla Rifle not having the explosive effect work at all which is not surprising. To put it into perspective, let's say a new muzzle came out for the Gauss Minigun, it's a heavy weapon that comes with an in built explosive effect so technically, an explosive heavy gun. (not categorised as one, but technically is) If they brought out a muzzle which renders it's natural capabilities useless, that would be surprising, no?
I think I'm fine with this. It seems like the explosion from the DC muzzle doesn't really do much to nearby enemies, just the one you're targeting. But if i need to, I'll just carry 2. I already do for a few weapons. Some i even carry 3 🫣 lol
I do that too! For example, I normally carry 2 tesla rifles, theyre bloodied, pack a strong punch but only 15 rounds, so I just switch to compensate for the lack of capacity, works wonderful. Same with my railway rifles, missile launchers.
Dont see a problem there. 25% dmg while aiming and the 60% more dmg if the duration is over 100% and weapon breaks slower and it will oneshot multiple enemies with one shot.
@@sandroschettler7954 as I said, it’s still good and hits like a truck, just disappointing that it removes the natural explosive effect from the weapon 😔 In my previous videos, we tested it with the Direct current muzzle and it’s just super fun and really powerful so really excited for it 😃
@@sandroschettler7954 well sort of yes and no, mainly because this is listed as an explosive heavy gun, which just happens to fire energy projectiles. If this was just a heavy gun, I’d say to myself, fair enough, that makes sense, which naturally it does but because this is a naturally explosive heavy gun, that’s why it’s surprising
From testing I kind of feel like it is a bug and it isn't a bug because I think they've deliberating done this to remove the additional damage from the chain lighting when it comes to the explosive effect.
@P3nAlPineapple i could definitely see removing the explosive visual effect however the damage should still be there, im no coder either but i feel like it should be similar code to the tesla rifle Honestly what i wanted for this weapon was to launch a ball of electricity that on contact with something produces tesla arcs
Since the Milepost Zero update that’s only become a thing, but nullifying the entire explosive effect plus damage is a bit of let down, in my own opinion. I feel it should deal an initial explosion to the first enemy and then chain the base damage minus explosive damage onto the next. The other muzzles allow for this to work so I suppose it just gives people an option to have two different variants of it
This is why I left 76, they cant fathom that the playerbase doesnt want to be throwing a napkin at the enemy. Destiny 2 is like infinitely better and more fun if yall wanna play a game that feels reminiscent of 76 on release.
why is that surprising to you? genuine question. you seem to have been playing the game for awhile, so why are you surprised by this? xD *with regards to the explosion damage not working
It's surprising because the weapon is an *Explosive Heavy Gun* naturally it's explosive as it produces an explosive effect with each muzzle but this muzzle removes the explosive effect it naturally produces but also removes the explosive legendary effect. This was a thing that was introduced with the Milepost Zero update and I tested this on the PTS back in August or September before it came in, and energy weapons with the explosive effect with a particular barrel attached, negates the explosive projectiles related the legendary explosive effect. Naturally explosive weapons shouldn't have their explosive effect removed. i.e Take a Gauss Minigun ... it comes with an in built explosive effect - imagine adding a barrel that removes that ability altogether? Negates a big part of what makes the weapon perform when it comes to DPS i.e working in synergy with Demo expert etc. Now, if this wasn't an explosive heavy gun, I'd be like.. yeah that makes sense but this muzzle is directly removing a standard effect which is surprising
@@brokenbananas2952 hardly crying buddy 👍 It’s an explosive heavy gun , it’s not a Tesla Rifle so there’s sort of difference here 🙏🏻 If this was an energy weapon then I wouldn’t be making a video like this and clearly your response is coming off of a lack of not watching my previous videos , catch up and reassess.
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So it makes sense why the explosive effect doesn’t work: you’re trading higher single point damage on one enemy with a little bit of AOE from the explosion (that gets amped by the explosive legendary effect and demo expert) for no AOE but now the bolt itself is chaining to other enemies in the area doing more damage overall to more enemies just spread out. One shoting super mutants and hurting the others a bit vs clearing a whole room of ghouls in shot. Explosive effects not working on the alternating muzzle sucks but look at this way: that’s 5 whole perk slots of demo expert you don’t have to take now and you’re still getting a pretty powerful version of the TC that fills a different niche.
I personally will be using the direct current muzzle. I like the idea of a plasma caster that’s cooler looking, lighter ammo, AOE, no projectile travel time, and cry babies seething on Reddit about explosions in their post apocalyptic futuristic war game. However it does suck that fractures doesn’t work. It should work on the AC muzzle, that’d be so fun.
Well said. With the Alternate current muzzle you have yourself a heavy tesla rifle that is not an explosive weapon.
They can't get this update out quick enough, I want my damn Tesla Cannon
Don't worry, not too long to go now 😊
Even after seeing this video? 🤣
@@xHARDCORE5150x yep, I'll just rock the other attachments and force it to work. I will not be stopped.
I just want my new power armor from the raid, those set bonuses will be awesome for my power armor vats build :(
Is this weapon available now since this video was posted 12 days ago
Im honestly alright with the Alternate current muzzle removing the demolition expert perk benefit as the weapon is no longer "explosive" in nature. It's just a heavy tesla rifle now and that is just fine. 😎
Yeah that I don't mind at all, it's still good and packs a punch and more than likely I'll have two versions of the cannon when it's released, one with this muzzle and another with the Direct Current Muzzle, for max DPS and Explosives 😊
@@P3nAlPineapple Indeed this way the Tesla Cannon offers 2 different, but still viable ways to build it. The Heavy Gunner one and the Heavy Gunner/Demo Expert deluxe edition for those who want the booms.
@@Mestari1Gaming 100% and it's great that we have an alternative version to use and can modify it in different ways 😊
I would love to see a buff to this muzzle, if this is the direction they're going, just so that it could still be somewhat as powerful as full boom boom version 😅 Let's say boom boom version does 700 damage, then the Alternate could do in and around 670-680.
Just not a drop off of 91 🙏
I didnt realize demo expert even adds to the actual number for explosive prefix, it doesnt on my gat plas its just something i test when shooting taking card on and off
idk if i like the fact it looks so different from the FO4 And FO3-NV version, what do you think?
Personally I actually like that it is different because from a design and lore perspective, it makes sense.
The versions we see in FO3 and NV we designed as a direct result of the BoS modifying the original plans to fit the tesla coil and then the Enclave modified what we seen in NV and Elijah modified the other version, so that makes sense.
But I've personally advocated for that if this weapon were to come to Fallout 76 at some point, that it would look a bit different or seem like an original concept or design of what the pre war Tesla Cannon actually looked like, which I think is cool!
I personally don't have anything against the FO4 version, but the fact it was a creation club mod, I'm kinda like....eehhhh is it really a part of the story, I mean yes and no.
Yes it was fun to use in Fo4 but I much prefer the FO3 and NV versions 😅
@@P3nAlPineapple why did the BOS add tesla coils anyway?
@@ArandomPerson7996 so the BoS needed the Tesla coil to power their redesigned version of the original Tesla Cannon designs so that it could be used for taking down Enclave vertibirds which produced a much larger AOE compared to the original design.
The Tesla Cannon we have in 76 should technically be a pre cursor to that version and even though it can take down vertibirds in this game, the comparison of damage between the two games in terms of performance is vastly different. I.e in Fallout 3 we couldn’t have a Bloodied Explosive Tesla Cannon so in terms of performance and damage, they scale very differently
I was once fighting the sbq on a 10 year old xbox, almost the entire server including me was using legacy gatling plasmas and it didnt crash. not to mention they could add a setting to turn off particle effects but bethesda isnt about making good decision and making the game fun.
With that muzzle they should add mini seeker explosive drones.
That would be awesome 🤣
Cant wait! I thought itcs doing explosive/splash damage by default? What happens if use one without the 2stars explosive?
I find it funny that Bethesda typically resort to adjusting the damage when it comes to balancing, but with a powerful weapon like the plasma cannon it would be easier to give it all the bells and whistles and balance things like ammo cost per shot and fire rate. They should look at weapons like the plasma caster that can one shot single enemies and ask what would make people want to use the tesla cannon instead.
On a slightly unrelated note they could do this with melee weapons too, for example, if two handed weapons could knock over and ragdoll enemies and non-auto melee weapons could hit multiple enemies at once via a directional attack like in Skyrim.
its so obvious if they had it stagger enemies it would be great for crowds in events,would go for a twoshot version
Very easy fix for this is to up the damage by 20% from the muzzle
@@grimm_tnt_1509 yeah 100% 🙏🏻
looks like a decent tagging weapon at least
It was surprising and disappointing for me when I realised, that there is no ash pile animation when we kill npcs with the tesla cannon while tesla carbine has this animation..(
you don't have on any heavy gunner crippling perks or + limb damage on your weapon, going to be tough to get the crippling effect............
@@Average1212 I tested this with one gun army while using the 4th star effect for a hour or so and got nothing from it with the alternate muzzle. I mean I tried… I really tried 😅
@@P3nAlPineapple can't ask more of that from you.
Ive been wanting the tesla cannon in 76 sense it was added to the creation club for Fallout 4, and i really hope they do it right before it hits live servers. Its VATS accuracy and alternate firing are pretty bad, and from other videos ive seen its damage isnt too much to write home about. If they listen to the feedback it has the potential to be a really solid weapon!
Oh and I don't mean the muzzle shouldn't have any damage decrease,it just seems to be way to much
Did you really think explosive would work on this? Explosive, turned old tesla and flamer into ranged balls so this is no surprise it doesn't work.
To put it into context and I probably should have highlighted this, which in a way is probably beneficial to watch my previous videos, however the Tesla Cannon is an Explosive Heavy Gun, not an explosive launcher, an explosive heavy gun that produces energy damage.
So it's not an energy weapon that's an explosive heavy gun, it's categorised as an Explosive Heavy Gun so naturally the explosive effect & heavy gun effect pre determines it's capabilities regardless of attachments etc..
The fact that it removes the explosive effect is what is surprising here compared to a Tesla Rifle not having the explosive effect work at all which is not surprising.
To put it into perspective, let's say a new muzzle came out for the Gauss Minigun, it's a heavy weapon that comes with an in built explosive effect so technically, an explosive heavy gun. (not categorised as one, but technically is)
If they brought out a muzzle which renders it's natural capabilities useless, that would be surprising, no?
I think I'm fine with this. It seems like the explosion from the DC muzzle doesn't really do much to nearby enemies, just the one you're targeting. But if i need to, I'll just carry 2. I already do for a few weapons. Some i even carry 3 🫣 lol
I do that too! For example, I normally carry 2 tesla rifles, theyre bloodied, pack a strong punch but only 15 rounds, so I just switch to compensate for the lack of capacity, works wonderful. Same with my railway rifles, missile launchers.
Dont see a problem there. 25% dmg while aiming and the 60% more dmg if the duration is over 100% and weapon breaks slower and it will oneshot multiple enemies with one shot.
@@sandroschettler7954 as I said, it’s still good and hits like a truck, just disappointing that it removes the natural explosive effect from the weapon 😔
In my previous videos, we tested it with the Direct current muzzle and it’s just super fun and really powerful so really excited for it 😃
@@P3nAlPineapple but the normal Tesla also cant be Explo so why should this can do also explosions?
That was to be expected. 😅👍🏻
@@sandroschettler7954 well sort of yes and no, mainly because this is listed as an explosive heavy gun, which just happens to fire energy projectiles.
If this was just a heavy gun, I’d say to myself, fair enough, that makes sense, which naturally it does but because this is a naturally explosive heavy gun, that’s why it’s surprising
meh i never like using explosive on most things
Doh!
I know right 🤦♂️ so disappointing!
@@P3nAlPineapple Hope it, as well as the other energy that aren't working with explosive, get fixed soon.
@@MrMorp76 Yeah I really hope so! I would to see the explosive effect work on the Tesla Rifle and also the Flamer! 🔥⚡
@@P3nAlPineapple so, its not adding the 20% damage as a flat number, or anything like that?
@@MrMorp76 anything with explosive damage or explosive effect is just removed
😢 I need more space for cool stuff
Its probably a bug
From testing I kind of feel like it is a bug and it isn't a bug because I think they've deliberating done this to remove the additional damage from the chain lighting when it comes to the explosive effect.
@P3nAlPineapple i could definitely see removing the explosive visual effect however the damage should still be there, im no coder either but i feel like it should be similar code to the tesla rifle
Honestly what i wanted for this weapon was to launch a ball of electricity that on contact with something produces tesla arcs
I’ll just use the other muzzle not this one
For DPS definitely!
The chain effect is still cool and all but just feels very underwhelming compared to the Direct Current Muzzle
of course it nulifies the explosive damage, just like the tesla rifle.
Since the Milepost Zero update that’s only become a thing, but nullifying the entire explosive effect plus damage is a bit of let down, in my own opinion.
I feel it should deal an initial explosion to the first enemy and then chain the base damage minus explosive damage onto the next.
The other muzzles allow for this to work so I suppose it just gives people an option to have two different variants of it
Just ask yourself....does my tesla rifle explode?...🤦
@@brokenbananas2952 it’s not a Tesla Rifle, it’s an explosive heavy gun that also fires energy projectiles, sort of a major difference 👍
This is why I left 76, they cant fathom that the playerbase doesnt want to be throwing a napkin at the enemy. Destiny 2 is like infinitely better and more fun if yall wanna play a game that feels reminiscent of 76 on release.
why is that surprising to you? genuine question. you seem to have been playing the game for awhile, so why are you surprised by this? xD *with regards to the explosion damage not working
It's surprising because the weapon is an *Explosive Heavy Gun* naturally it's explosive as it produces an explosive effect with each muzzle but this muzzle removes the explosive effect it naturally produces but also removes the explosive legendary effect.
This was a thing that was introduced with the Milepost Zero update and I tested this on the PTS back in August or September before it came in, and energy weapons with the explosive effect with a particular barrel attached, negates the explosive projectiles related the legendary explosive effect.
Naturally explosive weapons shouldn't have their explosive effect removed. i.e Take a Gauss Minigun ... it comes with an in built explosive effect - imagine adding a barrel that removes that ability altogether? Negates a big part of what makes the weapon perform when it comes to DPS i.e working in synergy with Demo expert etc.
Now, if this wasn't an explosive heavy gun, I'd be like.. yeah that makes sense but this muzzle is directly removing a standard effect which is surprising
Crying about something you already should have know 😂 oh no my lighting does not explode 💀
@@brokenbananas2952 hardly crying buddy 👍
It’s an explosive heavy gun , it’s not a Tesla Rifle so there’s sort of difference here 🙏🏻
If this was an energy weapon then I wouldn’t be making a video like this and clearly your response is coming off of a lack of not watching my previous videos , catch up and reassess.