I just got off a trans-atlantic flight. One thing to be aware is that you are not the only one traveling! Pay attention when the line is moving. Don't stare at your phone and not watch the people ahead of you. Also when de-boarding the plane, if you need to stop and readjust, don't do it in the gangway or narrow hallway. If you do, move to the side. I nearly knocked a person over because they decided as the crowd was moving, to just stop!
great point, most jetways I've seen are wide enough for two way travel so if you absolutely have to stop there do it in a wide place or move all the way off to the side and maybe motion to the person behind you to go by. We should be walking down these things all the way to the right anyways. If I'm power walking I should be able to pass you on the left, just like a people mover.
My biggest peeve is when collecting luggage at the belt. The amount of people crowding at the opening instead of spreading out plus when there's children close to the belt nearly getting knocked out by stray cases.
I'm SO glad I'm not the only one who bristles at many of these lapses in etiquette! One suggestion I'd add when getting off the plane is to step well aside or beyond where people behind you are deplaning. I understand needing to wait for travel companions or look for connecting gates, yet often people do so a couple of steps after passing through the gate doorway and stand in the way of subsequent passengers deplaning.
My biggest peeve on flights is when someone puts their bag in the overhead bin that is not directly above their seat. Parking them in a bin closer to front while their seat is in the back but then the person sitting there has no place to put their bag. It causes chaos, since the person sitting under it now has to find a place for their bag, slowing down the boarding process. I wish that, that bag is gate checked, making the person for their bag for all the inconvenience they caused to their other passengers.
Greetings from upper left USA. These are awesome tips, but you missed 3 big ones for the airport: 1) Stay single file on a people mover and stay to the right if you are not walking on it. 2) don't walk several people abreast if there are more than two of you traveling together. It makes it too hard for people to pass you (especially annoying if you are in a rush to make a connection). 3) Don't stand around a walkway, hallway, etc. If you need to look at your phone then pull over to the side. If you're traveling with others this is NOT the place to stop and have your conversation. See #2 for why this is annoying to others. #2 and #3 are just good etiquette in general, whether on a sidewalk or in a building.
#1 YES!!! A huge pet peeve of mine. In Europe it's a no-brainer, everyone does that. I get so frustrated as soon as I land back in the US, "excuse me, on your left!" Sigh...
Great video! The "gate crowding" rule is a good one in theory, but much harder to practice. When half the people at the gate (or more) crowd the entrance and rush the door when their zone is called, it's tough to be one of the few who try to be patient and courteous, only to get screwed over by losing out on precious overhead bin space. Until the airlines do something to prevent gate crowding, the best way to avoid having to do it is to either check a bag (gross!) or pack with a personal item only (not possible for everyone). Sadly, gate crowding will continue. 😕
Very good topic, I am of the idea that in addition to the safety talk there should be some instructional video about the basic flight manners that people are forgetting
@@PackHacker I really wish flight attendants would take more charge here and handle this. A simple audio reminder before and after flight on some basic etiquette is all it takes.
the only one i dont agree with is the recommendation to put your backpack under the seat even if you didn’t stow anything overhead. what will most likely happen is that someone else will take advantage of this and stow two bags overhead (with no bag in front of their seat) instead which is not fair at all. Having no luggage under the seat gives you more legroom, so if you did the effort to travel with one bag only, you should be rewarded for it with extra leg room 😅
Not sure if you've tried this but after your at altitude you can pull your bag out from underneath and stand it up in front of your seat, underneath your thighs. Although I have put both bags up top it's not really worth it. Just because someone else MIGHT do something doesn't mean you automatically should. Instead wait until your at altitude and then check if there are any extra open spaces. Or ask how full the flight is going to be while your boarding.
@@danielfix7871 my point is there is no rule that says all small items must be treated as personal. Otherwise by your logic everyone who doesnt check in a luggage should be forced to do it if you have a free allowance. Theres no rule that says carryon luggage have minimum dimensions, also some airlines personal item dimensions are more restrictive than the actual space below the seat, so i would be “breaking the airline rules” if i put a bag under seat thats above the airline personal item restrictions but can still fit under a seat (maybe with some effort)
@@PotatoSpudRucking Sorry I missed your point about not having a primary bag already overhead. I think this is somewhat of a gray area but yeah if you only have one bag I don't see why it couldn't go up there.
If you're traveling with a carry-on and use the overhead, stow your bag with the handle facing outward for easy grab and go. It's amazing how many people I see put the handle towards the back and then struggle getting their bag out. Also try flipping the bag on its side as this will give a couple extra inches in space for someone else. If everyone did this, you'd likely be able to fit an extra bag for someone who needs the space. I have an Osprey Fairview, which is large, but it can manage being flipped on its side without issue.
Really great video, if everyone followed these rules it would be so much more pleasant! I would just add my number one rule which is: keep a positive attitude. Be patient and kind with other passengers, gate agents, flight attendants, etc. So much unnecessary travel stress is brought on just by people bringing their stank “me first” attitudes to the airport.
If you have long hair, don’t put it over the top of the seat to hang down the back. And if you feel the need to hold onto the top of the headrest, make sure your fingers won’t block the screen or whatever. I’ve had to push fingers back up the back of the headrest to get them off my screen before.
@@AdiSchwarz I’ve seen posts of girls with super long hair just tossing it over the back of their chair, blocking the person’s screen. And one where the person moved the hair back over to the other side, and the offender moved it right back. And yes, someone in front of me decided they had to hold on to their headrest, fingers totally down over my screen…. I started pushing them back up off of my screen about 30 seconds later. I gave them time to realize they were touching my screen… they did not. They also had long hair, but luckily they kept up in a messy bun, so it wasn’t hanging all the way over, but it was close.
@@leilareynolds3208 Damn, the posts visible to me are here on YT since I do not have FB/IG/Twitter/TikTok but thanks for letting me know how common this *misbehavior* can be. Okaay, but hair can be dirty & who knows when was the last time they washed their hair?! & what if the passenger behind them eats (snacks or meals)? Omg gross. (Evil me suggests I'll have fun *trimming* their hair) It surprises me how insensitive people can be. If they only care about their own space (& not the people around them), why not book for business or first class? If one cannot afford, simply behave. I consider myself lucky as I havent encountered these people & I am not that patient. My friends would tell me how some of them encountered some first time flyers who would not comply to the rules (eg. seatbelts) & would "announce" (bec they talked loud) it was their first time that sometimes they would "scream."
I use a small mini extension cord called an "outlet saver" - they come in two and three prong versions. Not only courteous to use, but sometimes the prongs grab better onto a worn outlet than the "brick" you are trying to use.
I saved up all year and am going Business Class ,10 hours, to Europe this month. Can’t wait! I’m worth it! But……then I’ll never want to go economy ever again…….
I am a small female. It’s more comfortable for me to sit up right therefore I hardly ever recline my seat. A reclined seat makes the roll behind hard to pass thru when going to and from the loo.
Adding to gate etiquette- How about don't put your backpack or carry-on on the seat next to you. So many people do exactly what he did in the video instead of leaving the seat for people to have a place to sit!
As a frequent flyer, I wish people would stop trying to bring everything from home with them on the plane. I have seen people try to take up two spots under the seat in front of them. Please do not take your shoes off on a plane. I once sat next to a woman in her 20s who folded herself up like a pretzel and who placed her barefoot on the window for 90% of the flight. Disgusting!
I agree, but in certain instances like mine, I can't afford to check my bag with medical supplies and safe ingredient personal care items. If it is lost, my trip is over, and I may have to visit the ER. What the airlines should do is charge for carry on and allow one free checked bag, but then again, they would also have to stop losing them first. 😂
Good in theory. Once upon a time gate agents would help with this. Now, as often as not they won't even look up seat availability. I stead they will tell you to ask to swap after you board. Passengers have gotten worse, but airline staff are also much less service-oriented than before.
On a flight to London an entitled Karen was demanding the cabin crew move people around in the front of economy so her family could sit together. There was room in the back but she wanted the front. The cabin crew told them tough luck. One thing that should be added is be mindful of what you watch on your tablet. On a flight to Dublin i was watching an episode of air disasters, that particular episode was about a plane that ran out of fuel over the Atlantic. The woman sitting next to me was terrified of flying and kindly asked I watch anything else.
One of my pet peeves lately are people who book the aisle and window seats in a row and then spend the entire time talking over the person in the middle. I know that this booking tactic is to discourage people from booking the middle and then having an open seat in your row--but people are taking it to the limit and if there is a person in the middle, instead of moving together, they make the person miserable by talking over them. Ugh. Also, I hate, hate, hate, hate people who take off their shoes. I don't get it. Wear comfortable shoes on the flight. Period. I've had people tell me that their feet don't stink. Untrue. Everyone's feet smell like feet. Gross.
Ugh, that's just petty. What kind of psychpaths _want_ a stranger between them? The open middle seat is to discourage booking, but if the flight is full, you should always give that person the option to switch. It's not like that person can choose to not book it once they're there. 🙄
Another excellent video full of great tips. My pet hate is people that ignore the carry on size and weight limits, especially when I have taken a lot of care selecting a bag and weighing it etc before departing for the airport to make sure I'm well within the limits.
You forgot something that happens pre security… Checkin desk etiquette! Online checkin failed recently so I had to go to the checkin desk. The people in front of me spent about 15 minutes repacking their luggage and wouldn’t step aside to let me or anyone else checkin whilst their reorganising their checked luggage.. always make sure your weight and size are correct so you don’t cause unnecessary waiting.
Excellent point kind person. I've been in similar situations and you can always step aside (letting others continue to access the desk) and then once you are sorted you can go back to the same teller without having to wait in line again.
International Security Checkpoint Etiquette Tip: Take out your computer, iPad, phone, liquids bag, and (in some countries) your external battery so they are ready for the security bins for scanning. Note that some countries feel that lipstick or lip balm is a liquid and that can delay you when they are fishing through your bag for that chapstick you didn't put in your liquids bag and you need to make your connection. (Ask me how I know 😆)
I think you should do some videos about train travel. Amtrak is at a whole different level. Very little of the TSA/Security BS compared to air travel. Just a relaxing experience all around.
The group stand up at the end of the flight is my biggest pet peeve. Just let people get off from front to back. There's clearly not enough room for everyone to stand in the aisle!
One tip for getting through faster, is to join any Trusted Traveler programs available and that will save a lot of trouble of moving through border check and immigration. (TSA pre-check in states, Automated Gates in Japan, etc)
Hi. These are all great reminders for all of us, frequent and first-time flyers. But - adults accompanying kids should do absolutely everything possible to sit with them. There have been several recent well-publicized and documented cases of pre-teens being harassed verbally and physically molested on overnight flights. When interviewed, nearby passengers had no comment and/or claimed to have been sleeping. Please don't assume the kids will be fine sitting apart from you. Thanks again for this.
Great list, though I'm probably not going to give up my leg room on a long flight just because my carry on might happen to fit under my seat. If the airline oversold bin space they should be gate checking for free.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Why do people think they need to be 6 inches away from the carousel to get their bags? Have they not seen their own bags before?
I brought some cookies for the air hosts and hostesses. They were super helpful after that. But that was here in Asia. Not sure if it would work in the West.
Fantastic idea!! Always bring the flight attendants something! I have a close family member who works this job and it is not easy, let alone the people you have to deal with. When times are good I'll carry a few $5-10 starbucks gift cards in my wallet and give them out, especially if I frustrated one of the workers during my flight.
I know people always complain about screaming kids, but in 2024 you can easily block that out. However what you CANNOT block out is a bad case of BO or someone that went psycho on the perfume. For me these people are the real enemies of frequent travelers, jajajajajajajaja.
Great video! Just yesterday I was on a flight. A man walked on with 5 bags of McDonalds greasy food. It stunk up the plane something terrible. 🍔 🍟 one should always consider their fellow passengers. I usually bring a granola bar ( no obnoxious odor). 😂
Unfortunately the Gate crowding is global issue. Pending on the airlines and the size of the terminal, the gate agents don't have a lot of room to set up lanes.
One big reason for gate crowding is the huge increase in people flying carry on only. This causes a huge competition for overhead storage space and no one wants to have to check their carry on bag. So everyone is fighting to get on the plane asap to get space for their carry on bag....
Some cultures foods are smellier than others and I think we just have to respect that at times. Avoid smelly foods if you can but I don't think this is always possible.
I know this is kind of a meme about "back in MY day, flying was fun!" But when was that time, exactly? I'm 53 years old and flying has never been "fun" in my entire lifetime. Sure, maybe we had a bit more seat room. We didn't have to take out shoes off, but other than that I definitely don't look back on things with rose-colored glasses! Also, the Milwaukee airport officially wins with their "recombobulation" area signage 😂
@@PalmBeachDog Guess so, I'll try to keep a closer eye out next time. The only bad experiences I've had like this are during deplaning when everyone wants to hog the aisle and go out of turn.
Epic video guys, thanks for taking the time to make and share. I have some additional thoughts and input if anyone would like to discuss: ○ Security etiquette - I noticed this wasn't specifically called out but have identification and boarding pass ready when you walk up to the TSA agent. Start by immediately handing him your ID so he has time to check it while you work on scanning your boarding pass. ○ Gate etiquette - I like the seating idea that gives you good access to the front of the line when you board. I'll usually roll up to my gate a few minutes before boarding starts just to get a lay of the land but seats are always filled. There tends to be an area just outside of the line where people congregate until there group is called so that’s where I usually migrate towards. ○ Seat etiquette - One of my all time biggest pet peeves for air travel is when people start banging on my seatback for literally no reason. I am not one to look back and give a scowl so I usually don't know what's happening back there most of the time but it doesn't seem like it's kids doing it. This is a friendly reminder to be gentle when stowing and removing items from your seatback as not to disturb the person sitting there. Lastly, don't be afraid to offer people assistance with putting their bags overhead especially if it looks big and bulky, chivalry is not dead! And unfortunately I have to severely disagree on the reclining of seats aspect. The seats are unbearably uncomfortable when in the full upright position. I basically HAVE to recline my seat as soon as they allow it. Never has anyone said anything to me, and if it starts a chain reaction then so be it. Taken well over 100+ flights like this ever since I was born. When on the receiving end of someone reclining it does not bother me in the least bit and I find the tray tables are designed to extend should you need more room. And another thing to add about the arm rests, I have definitely seen people fight over this. One compromise I saw was that the person on the window seat was able to get the front half of the arm rest and the person in the middle was able to get the rear half of the arm rest. It was a bit petty but if you really need that arm rest keep this in mind. A final note about trash collection. I can sometimes generate a lot of trash from meals and other stuff purchased while in the terminal. Recently I had a stewardess ask me to hold onto my big bag of trash until they came back around so just be aware of that and be polite if they ask you. Their priority is to collect unfinished drinks then they will come back and grab other stuff no problem. ○ Onboard etiquette - For those who take two very large carry on items onto the plane I usually am not able to take off my backpack and carry it in front. Perhaps I could switch it to wear in the front while I'm on the jetway but I also don't want to look like a kook while boarding. My go-to has been keeping a spare hand on the side of my pack so I can know exactly how wide it is and soften any blows that were bound to happen. I've also found that my tactical pack without water side pocket bottle holders is very slimline and unlikely to hit anyone. To the people already sitting in their seats while others are still boarding, just give extra room at that time. Often it feels like I am having to dodge and weave around you. If you are storing a large item under the seat, pull it out once you are at the correct altitude and stand it up directly in front of your seat, underneath your thighs. This will give you all the room back under the seat. And in my opinion talking excessively while on the airplane isn't a big deal, perhaps it is for others though. At this point most people have some type of headphones and likely noise cancelling ones. Maybe just try to monitor your volume as you converse. ○ Postflight etiquette - Once the fasten seatbelt sign goes off I try not to just stand in the aisle. Sure you can get up and stand in your row but don't block the aisle. Just how you were able to get up and grab your carryon from the overhead, others would like to do the same. Definitely don't storm to the front of the plane either, cutting in front of everyone else. Perhaps use this time to ask if you can grab any bags for those who want assistance. If I'm on a really tight connection here's what you do. Even if the flight attendants make an announcement and try their hardest, people do not care (a lack of patience on your end should not constitute an emergency for me). While the plane is on it's taxi to the gate and is about to park, take this time to carefully get up and walk to the front of the plane. There is nothing the flight attendants can do although I wouldn't invite confrontation or discussions with them while doing this, they do understand though. Aside from this circumstance, I am a very big believer that everyone should deplane in correct order. Unless it is someone who is clearly not ready to deplane, let the rows in front of you finish before you go. A little patience and courteousy goes a long way here. This is one of the only times I've gotten confrontational with someone at the airport. Now I'm not afraid to step in front of someone who wants to cut me, sorry pal. DEFINITELY do not crowd the baggage carousel either, I won't hesitate to get right in there next to you while trying to get MY bag and YOU will look bad. ○ Lastly just be nice to people. Be mindful of lines and don't cut them. If you see someone doing this, POLITELY let them know. I was just travelling through a small airport and saw someone getting yelled at by multiple people for potentially cutting the rental car bus line. I had just arrived to the terminal from dropping my car off and I heard over the bus drivers radio that it was getting busy at the terminal and they were sending three empty buses. That big line was about to get completely dissolved in a matter of minutes.
Somebody sitting next to me was filing their nails during the flight. When I told him to stop, he asked me what he wanted me to do. I said not that. I don't want to inhale your cuticle residue.
Do not bring break-out plugs or extension cords for use at airport wall chargers. They are generally not designed to handle the extra devices. Better safe and rude than unsafe but mannered.
Outlets will be on a breaker and are usually sized for capacitance accordingly, so I don't think you'd blow anything up doing this. But still a good idea!
@@danielfix7871 While I agree; the problem is that the design specifications for these usually do not view multiple devices on a single outlet as a typical use-case. Similar to how a chair may be designed to handle two individuals sitting on it simultaneously, that doesn't make it advisable.
The main big rule should simply be don't wait for the last hour, minute or second. Just come early and come ready. As the flight nor the fellow travelers are your designated nanny/babysitters.
This is great security line etiquette. If you are unsure of typical conditions and cannot check live wait times online, show up 2 hours beforehand. I can't tell you how many people have had to ask to cut in front of me. Not a big deal if something happened but just do your part. And by the way, I've seen people say "no" when you ask to cut them and will likely be rude about it. Sometimes they aren't willing to help but it doesn't hurt to ask a TSA agent if you can go to a faster line if you are running late. And don't be that person in line who won't let anyone go in front of them.
100% disagree with the overhead bin space etiquette. Checking a bag these days typically costs money, and if you pay to check a bag, and then required to stick your personal item under the seat in front further reducing your leg room to accommodate someone else who decided to 1) didn't check their bag and 2) paid for a lower fare for a ticket and boarded after you.
Then don't check your bag, and use the overhead bin space just like everyone else.....what, you think you are somehow entitled to use the overhead bin for your personal item just because you chose to pay to check your carry-on bag, instead of bringing it on-board?
You can see my full comment on this up above but I've literally never had anyone complain about this and I recline on every single flight with over 100 flights taken. Have you had someone say anything before?
People who don’t wear socks to the airport drive me nuts. I have to stand in the yellow footprints in the scanner and invariably am behind some Lotrimin spokesperson. At least carry some peds!!!
don't put your damn bag sideways in the overhead compartment please doesn't matter how many reminders you hear from the airline, people just throw their bag, coat, purse, second bag, whatever all there of course we crowd when boarding, I don't want my small bag checked just because some animal before me took the whole overhead for him/herself
I just learned this the other day but apparently some planes are designed for "taco" style loading and others "hamburger" style. Do not put it sideways regardless. I will be rearranging your stuff if you do and I know flight attendants will too. Have some courtesy!
Planes have different configurations regarding overhead space, so that will dictate how you stow your bag. In most cases, the FA will remind people how to orient their bags.
Do you see this happen often? I've witnessed it every once in a while, if it's a family with kids or a lot going on try to have a little extra patience.
Not sure if these count as 'rules'...these are pretty common sense & generally considered good etiquette...I guess one would/should follow most of these regardless...and, of course, no need to show off when you do follow these (yeah, I'm looking at your 'influencers'!!)...I mean, it's the bare minimum 'politeness' required to get people through what is generally considered a stressful time (travel - esp. air travel)... I guess consideration for the fellow human being is going out of style/fashion/mode...............
What is the etiquette for when a large obese person spreads their body fat in your seat. Yes, I understand they may have a medical reason for being obese but this has happened to be on more than one occasion on a long haul flight and is most unpleasant having a hot sweating mass of fat pushing up against your body.
How about people with restless kids don't force them upon hundreds of people that have nowhere to escape for hours? You chose to have a kid, I didn't, so you should make the sacrifice/effort of travelling via a different method, or plan trips that don't require flying for a few years. In a cafe if they annoy me I can get up and leave, so it's fine, I don't get mad or anything. But on a plane I get to be a "prisoner" with your crying/kicking child. Also what kind of "police state" do you run over there? I have never been asked to remove any item of clothing, except my coat/jacket during winter, in any EU airport (I use a belt with plastic buckle). I've seen some people being asked to remove shoes, but no idea on what criteria and they were very few. And some airports even don't have the liquids rule, bring as much as you want and no need to pack it separately. They have some new scanners installed that will detect explosives w/o even opening the bags. Laptops can also stay. (Basically you don't have to ever open your bags)
Crying children are definitely a shame but I was probably that baby once so I try to remember that. You may have a well behaved child and not think they will start crying but you never know until you get up in the air and each flight is different. It's annoying but as the video says they are probably already getting looks and doing everything they can. Ear protection is very cheap and does not take up much room.
@@danielfix7871 You may have been that crying baby once, but that wasn't your fault, it was your parents'. I know for a fact I wasn't, my parents never flew with me anywhere till I was 13 (and not because they couldn't or wouldn't have wanted to). My presence on the plane doesn't cause any discomfort to either the parent, or the child, so the same should be true the other way around. If it's not acceptable for me, as an adult, to be kicking and screaming, neither should it be for a baby/child. "But they lack the self control" you might say; that's why the responsibility to shield others from their antics shifts to their parents, who, as I already said, should make sacrifices for the sake of others until their child is old enough to not be a nuisance. Airlines should have adult only flights, just like there are restaurants, resorts, hotels. Either that or make it MUCH more expensive to travel with a child, in order to discourage it. PS: can't have something on or in my ears, not hearing the world around me gives me anxiety/mild claustrophobia. Haven't even worn a pair of open headphones since I was a child, let alone something that could block noise. And either way, I shouldn't have to spend money in order to protect myself from their carelessness about their child annoying a plane full of people.
👍 It's unfortunate that it's necessary to tell anyone these truisms. It's like needing to explain keeping right except to pass and keeping up with traffic.
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Love, love, LOVE this video! Manners start with the person in the mirror, not the ones around you.
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I just got off a trans-atlantic flight. One thing to be aware is that you are not the only one traveling! Pay attention when the line is moving. Don't stare at your phone and not watch the people ahead of you. Also when de-boarding the plane, if you need to stop and readjust, don't do it in the gangway or narrow hallway. If you do, move to the side. I nearly knocked a person over because they decided as the crowd was moving, to just stop!
great point, most jetways I've seen are wide enough for two way travel so if you absolutely have to stop there do it in a wide place or move all the way off to the side and maybe motion to the person behind you to go by. We should be walking down these things all the way to the right anyways. If I'm power walking I should be able to pass you on the left, just like a people mover.
this video should be required viewing for air travel
Right? The people that need to learn how to follow these guidelines are the ones that will never see this.
My biggest peeve is when collecting luggage at the belt. The amount of people crowding at the opening instead of spreading out plus when there's children close to the belt nearly getting knocked out by stray cases.
I'm SO glad I'm not the only one who bristles at many of these lapses in etiquette! One suggestion I'd add when getting off the plane is to step well aside or beyond where people behind you are deplaning. I understand needing to wait for travel companions or look for connecting gates, yet often people do so a couple of steps after passing through the gate doorway and stand in the way of subsequent passengers deplaning.
This is a pretty big annoyance unfortunately and happens more often than you think, great points.
My biggest peeve on flights is when someone puts their bag in the overhead bin that is not directly above their seat. Parking them in a bin closer to front while their seat is in the back but then the person sitting there has no place to put their bag. It causes chaos, since the person sitting under it now has to find a place for their bag, slowing down the boarding process. I wish that, that bag is gate checked, making the person for their bag for all the inconvenience they caused to their other passengers.
Greetings from upper left USA. These are awesome tips, but you missed 3 big ones for the airport: 1) Stay single file on a people mover and stay to the right if you are not walking on it. 2) don't walk several people abreast if there are more than two of you traveling together. It makes it too hard for people to pass you (especially annoying if you are in a rush to make a connection). 3) Don't stand around a walkway, hallway, etc. If you need to look at your phone then pull over to the side. If you're traveling with others this is NOT the place to stop and have your conversation. See #2 for why this is annoying to others. #2 and #3 are just good etiquette in general, whether on a sidewalk or in a building.
These are basic social rules for any US city. Crazy that people can't follow normal rules.
#1 YES!!! A huge pet peeve of mine. In Europe it's a no-brainer, everyone does that. I get so frustrated as soon as I land back in the US, "excuse me, on your left!" Sigh...
Great video! The "gate crowding" rule is a good one in theory, but much harder to practice. When half the people at the gate (or more) crowd the entrance and rush the door when their zone is called, it's tough to be one of the few who try to be patient and courteous, only to get screwed over by losing out on precious overhead bin space. Until the airlines do something to prevent gate crowding, the best way to avoid having to do it is to either check a bag (gross!) or pack with a personal item only (not possible for everyone). Sadly, gate crowding will continue. 😕
They’re called “gate lice.”
Don't use speakerphone in public PERIOD.
Everything on this video need to be taught somewhere by someone. One of the best etiquette videos on TH-cam. Great job!
Thanks for watching! 😃
Very good topic, I am of the idea that in addition to the safety talk there should be some instructional video about the basic flight manners that people are forgetting
Good call! 😃
@@PackHacker I really wish flight attendants would take more charge here and handle this. A simple audio reminder before and after flight on some basic etiquette is all it takes.
the only one i dont agree with is the recommendation to put your backpack under the seat even if you didn’t stow anything overhead. what will most likely happen is that someone else will take advantage of this and stow two bags overhead (with no bag in front of their seat) instead which is not fair at all. Having no luggage under the seat gives you more legroom, so if you did the effort to travel with one bag only, you should be rewarded for it with extra leg room 😅
Not sure if you've tried this but after your at altitude you can pull your bag out from underneath and stand it up in front of your seat, underneath your thighs. Although I have put both bags up top it's not really worth it. Just because someone else MIGHT do something doesn't mean you automatically should. Instead wait until your at altitude and then check if there are any extra open spaces. Or ask how full the flight is going to be while your boarding.
@@danielfix7871 my point is there is no rule that says all small items must be treated as personal. Otherwise by your logic everyone who doesnt check in a luggage should be forced to do it if you have a free allowance. Theres no rule that says carryon luggage have minimum dimensions, also some airlines personal item dimensions are more restrictive than the actual space below the seat, so i would be “breaking the airline rules” if i put a bag under seat thats above the airline personal item restrictions but can still fit under a seat (maybe with some effort)
@@PotatoSpudRucking Sorry I missed your point about not having a primary bag already overhead. I think this is somewhat of a gray area but yeah if you only have one bag I don't see why it couldn't go up there.
This is all common sense. Unfortunately that's no so "common" anymore. Thank you for posting this. :)
Thanks for watching! 😃
I wouldn't say this is all common sense but most of it. A lot of people don't fly often enough to know all these nuances.
Always take a shower before flying.
This should be shown in airports and on flights.
Plus, you should get sent the link to this video every time you book a trip!
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If you're traveling with a carry-on and use the overhead, stow your bag with the handle facing outward for easy grab and go. It's amazing how many people I see put the handle towards the back and then struggle getting their bag out. Also try flipping the bag on its side as this will give a couple extra inches in space for someone else. If everyone did this, you'd likely be able to fit an extra bag for someone who needs the space. I have an Osprey Fairview, which is large, but it can manage being flipped on its side without issue.
I am a big fan of Pack Hacker and this reinforced my faith that PH is always going to keep you informed
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Really great video, if everyone followed these rules it would be so much more pleasant! I would just add my number one rule which is: keep a positive attitude. Be patient and kind with other passengers, gate agents, flight attendants, etc. So much unnecessary travel stress is brought on just by people bringing their stank “me first” attitudes to the airport.
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Couldn't agree more, travel adds stress both to ourselves and others around us. Things happen sometimes.
If you have long hair, don’t put it over the top of the seat to hang down the back.
And if you feel the need to hold onto the top of the headrest, make sure your fingers won’t block the screen or whatever. I’ve had to push fingers back up the back of the headrest to get them off my screen before.
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@@AdiSchwarz I’ve seen posts of girls with super long hair just tossing it over the back of their chair, blocking the person’s screen. And one where the person moved the hair back over to the other side, and the offender moved it right back.
And yes, someone in front of me decided they had to hold on to their headrest, fingers totally down over my screen…. I started pushing them back up off of my screen about 30 seconds later. I gave them time to realize they were touching my screen… they did not. They also had long hair, but luckily they kept up in a messy bun, so it wasn’t hanging all the way over, but it was close.
@@leilareynolds3208 Damn, the posts visible to me are here on YT since I do not have FB/IG/Twitter/TikTok but thanks for letting me know how common this *misbehavior* can be.
Okaay, but hair can be dirty & who knows when was the last time they washed their hair?! & what if the passenger behind them eats (snacks or meals)? Omg gross. (Evil me suggests I'll have fun *trimming* their hair)
It surprises me how insensitive people can be. If they only care about their own space (& not the people around them), why not book for business or first class? If one cannot afford, simply behave.
I consider myself lucky as I havent encountered these people & I am not that patient. My friends would tell me how some of them encountered some first time flyers who would not comply to the rules (eg. seatbelts) & would "announce" (bec they talked loud) it was their first time that sometimes they would "scream."
Amazing that these basic things need to be pointed out still :O
I use a small mini extension cord called an "outlet saver" - they come in two and three prong versions. Not only courteous to use, but sometimes the prongs grab better onto a worn outlet than the "brick" you are trying to use.
I saved up all year and am going Business Class ,10 hours, to Europe this month.
Can’t wait!
I’m worth it!
But……then I’ll never want to go economy ever again…….
I am a small female. It’s more comfortable for me to sit up right therefore I hardly ever recline my seat. A reclined seat makes the roll behind hard to pass thru when going to and from the loo.
Watching this on a train; to paraphrase the Karate Kid’s Mr Myagi ‘best way to win at airport: no be there’.
Adding to gate etiquette- How about don't put your backpack or carry-on on the seat next to you. So many people do exactly what he did in the video instead of leaving the seat for people to have a place to sit!
Best video on airplane etiquette 😊
My biggest pet peeve is people who store this carry on in the first bins when they’re seated in the middle/back
You need to realize we live in a me me me world
this is the absolute worst and people need to be educated. Unless the plane is mostly full and you don't have much of an option.
The people who need this video will never see it.
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As a frequent flyer, I wish people would stop trying to bring everything from home with them on the plane. I have seen people try to take up two spots under the seat in front of them. Please do not take your shoes off on a plane. I once sat next to a woman in her 20s who folded herself up like a pretzel and who placed her barefoot on the window for 90% of the flight. Disgusting!
I agree, but in certain instances like mine, I can't afford to check my bag with medical supplies and safe ingredient personal care items. If it is lost, my trip is over, and I may have to visit the ER. What the airlines should do is charge for carry on and allow one free checked bag, but then again, they would also have to stop losing them first. 😂
I was just on a flight with 3 people lifting their knees up to their chest and their dirty shoes on the seats where the next passenger will sit.
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Respectfully, no. Do not go around asking to swap seats. That's handled at the ticket counter or by a flight attendant.
Good in theory. Once upon a time gate agents would help with this. Now, as often as not they won't even look up seat availability. I stead they will tell you to ask to swap after you board. Passengers have gotten worse, but airline staff are also much less service-oriented than before.
Not on southwest where it's open seating.
On a flight to London an entitled Karen was demanding the cabin crew move people around in the front of economy so her family could sit together. There was room in the back but she wanted the front. The cabin crew told them tough luck.
One thing that should be added is be mindful of what you watch on your tablet. On a flight to Dublin i was watching an episode of air disasters, that particular episode was about a plane that ran out of fuel over the Atlantic. The woman sitting next to me was terrified of flying and kindly asked I watch anything else.
Well done, folks. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! 😃
One of my pet peeves lately are people who book the aisle and window seats in a row and then spend the entire time talking over the person in the middle. I know that this booking tactic is to discourage people from booking the middle and then having an open seat in your row--but people are taking it to the limit and if there is a person in the middle, instead of moving together, they make the person miserable by talking over them. Ugh. Also, I hate, hate, hate, hate people who take off their shoes. I don't get it. Wear comfortable shoes on the flight. Period. I've had people tell me that their feet don't stink. Untrue. Everyone's feet smell like feet. Gross.
Ugh, that's just petty. What kind of psychpaths _want_ a stranger between them? The open middle seat is to discourage booking, but if the flight is full, you should always give that person the option to switch. It's not like that person can choose to not book it once they're there. 🙄
Yeah that tactic is pretty sus, luckily I've never really experienced this.
Another excellent video full of great tips.
My pet hate is people that ignore the carry on size and weight limits, especially when I have taken a lot of care selecting a bag and weighing it etc before departing for the airport to make sure I'm well within the limits.
Thanks for sharing your insights! 🤙
And don’t be that gal: don’t drape your hair over the back of your seat, don’t stick your toes in between the seats in front of you.
You forgot something that happens pre security… Checkin desk etiquette! Online checkin failed recently so I had to go to the checkin desk. The people in front of me spent about 15 minutes repacking their luggage and wouldn’t step aside to let me or anyone else checkin whilst their reorganising their checked luggage.. always make sure your weight and size are correct so you don’t cause unnecessary waiting.
Excellent point kind person. I've been in similar situations and you can always step aside (letting others continue to access the desk) and then once you are sorted you can go back to the same teller without having to wait in line again.
International Security Checkpoint Etiquette Tip: Take out your computer, iPad, phone, liquids bag, and (in some countries) your external battery so they are ready for the security bins for scanning. Note that some countries feel that lipstick or lip balm is a liquid and that can delay you when they are fishing through your bag for that chapstick you didn't put in your liquids bag and you need to make your connection. (Ask me how I know 😆)
A shortened version of this should be a part of the safety explanation on plane. ELAL has a video to watch at your seat before takeoff
I think you should do some videos about train travel. Amtrak is at a whole different level. Very little of the TSA/Security BS compared to air travel. Just a relaxing experience all around.
Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll pass it along. We love trains!
crowd place rules:
don't stand with your arms akimbo
never step backwards when taking pictures
The group stand up at the end of the flight is my biggest pet peeve. Just let people get off from front to back. There's clearly not enough room for everyone to stand in the aisle!
One tip for getting through faster, is to join any Trusted Traveler programs available and that will save a lot of trouble of moving through border check and immigration. (TSA pre-check in states, Automated Gates in Japan, etc)
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Hi. These are all great reminders for all of us, frequent and first-time flyers. But - adults accompanying kids should do absolutely everything possible to sit with them. There have been several recent well-publicized and documented cases of pre-teens being harassed verbally and physically molested on overnight flights. When interviewed, nearby passengers had no comment and/or claimed to have been sleeping. Please don't assume the kids will be fine sitting apart from you. Thanks again for this.
Great list, though I'm probably not going to give up my leg room on a long flight just because my carry on might happen to fit under my seat. If the airline oversold bin space they should be gate checking for free.
A good compromise is once you're at cruising altitude you can pull your bag out and stand it up in front of your seat.
@@danielfix7871 I've actually heard about that and tried it, but it didn't work. Guess you need a specific combination of leg length and bag height?
@@MrJed_s Im sure results could vary with this one but I've really never had a problem.
@@danielfix7871 I'll be sure to give it another go on a future flight, thanks for the tip either way!
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Why do people think they need to be 6 inches away from the carousel to get their bags? Have they not seen their own bags before?
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This is all COMMON SENSE and common courtesy.
I brought some cookies for the air hosts and hostesses. They were super helpful after that. But that was here in Asia. Not sure if it would work in the West.
Fantastic idea!! Always bring the flight attendants something! I have a close family member who works this job and it is not easy, let alone the people you have to deal with. When times are good I'll carry a few $5-10 starbucks gift cards in my wallet and give them out, especially if I frustrated one of the workers during my flight.
I know people always complain about screaming kids, but in 2024 you can easily block that out.
However what you CANNOT block out is a bad case of BO or someone that went psycho on the perfume. For me these people are the real enemies of frequent travelers, jajajajajajajaja.
Great video! Just yesterday I was on a flight. A man walked on with 5 bags of McDonalds greasy food. It stunk up the plane something terrible. 🍔 🍟 one should always consider their fellow passengers. I usually bring a granola bar ( no obnoxious odor). 😂
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should those wearing hairpieces remove them as they would a cap when going through security?
All good tips!
Thanks for watching! 😃
I got sat next to a couple with a baby…
The gent asked me if I liked children..
I said yes.. but I could never eat a whole one..
Unfortunately the Gate crowding is global issue. Pending on the airlines and the size of the terminal, the gate agents don't have a lot of room to set up lanes.
One big reason for gate crowding is the huge increase in people flying carry on only. This causes a huge competition for overhead storage space and no one wants to have to check their carry on bag. So everyone is fighting to get on the plane asap to get space for their carry on bag....
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and people making poor use of that limited overhead space
tetris should be mandatory while waiting to board the plane, highest score boards first
I have a solution to this....make people PAY to bring on-board a carry-on 😁
This video should be mandatory to watch after someone purchases a plane ticket 😂
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I sat next to a couple that had a half of a tuna sandwich each. Everyone nearby stared our direction.
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Some cultures foods are smellier than others and I think we just have to respect that at times. Avoid smelly foods if you can but I don't think this is always possible.
Anker has a portable charger that's small, compact, and keeps your device charged.
Aw! But I really, really need to know what everyone else is watching!
I know this is kind of a meme about "back in MY day, flying was fun!" But when was that time, exactly? I'm 53 years old and flying has never been "fun" in my entire lifetime. Sure, maybe we had a bit more seat room. We didn't have to take out shoes off, but other than that I definitely don't look back on things with rose-colored glasses!
Also, the Milwaukee airport officially wins with their "recombobulation" area signage 😂
I love these rules, although the gate rules are different flying southwest.
@@PalmBeachDog sorry sir but as someone who primarily flies southwest I have not seen this at all lol.
@@danielfix7871 your a lucky man
@@PalmBeachDog Guess so, I'll try to keep a closer eye out next time. The only bad experiences I've had like this are during deplaning when everyone wants to hog the aisle and go out of turn.
Epic video guys, thanks for taking the time to make and share. I have some additional thoughts and input if anyone would like to discuss:
○ Security etiquette - I noticed this wasn't specifically called out but have identification and boarding pass ready when you walk up to the TSA agent. Start by immediately handing him your ID so he has time to check it while you work on scanning your boarding pass.
○ Gate etiquette - I like the seating idea that gives you good access to the front of the line when you board. I'll usually roll up to my gate a few minutes before boarding starts just to get a lay of the land but seats are always filled. There tends to be an area just outside of the line where people congregate until there group is called so that’s where I usually migrate towards.
○ Seat etiquette - One of my all time biggest pet peeves for air travel is when people start banging on my seatback for literally no reason. I am not one to look back and give a scowl so I usually don't know what's happening back there most of the time but it doesn't seem like it's kids doing it. This is a friendly reminder to be gentle when stowing and removing items from your seatback as not to disturb the person sitting there. Lastly, don't be afraid to offer people assistance with putting their bags overhead especially if it looks big and bulky, chivalry is not dead!
And unfortunately I have to severely disagree on the reclining of seats aspect. The seats are unbearably uncomfortable when in the full upright position. I basically HAVE to recline my seat as soon as they allow it. Never has anyone said anything to me, and if it starts a chain reaction then so be it. Taken well over 100+ flights like this ever since I was born. When on the receiving end of someone reclining it does not bother me in the least bit and I find the tray tables are designed to extend should you need more room. And another thing to add about the arm rests, I have definitely seen people fight over this. One compromise I saw was that the person on the window seat was able to get the front half of the arm rest and the person in the middle was able to get the rear half of the arm rest. It was a bit petty but if you really need that arm rest keep this in mind.
A final note about trash collection. I can sometimes generate a lot of trash from meals and other stuff purchased while in the terminal. Recently I had a stewardess ask me to hold onto my big bag of trash until they came back around so just be aware of that and be polite if they ask you. Their priority is to collect unfinished drinks then they will come back and grab other stuff no problem.
○ Onboard etiquette - For those who take two very large carry on items onto the plane I usually am not able to take off my backpack and carry it in front. Perhaps I could switch it to wear in the front while I'm on the jetway but I also don't want to look like a kook while boarding. My go-to has been keeping a spare hand on the side of my pack so I can know exactly how wide it is and soften any blows that were bound to happen. I've also found that my tactical pack without water side pocket bottle holders is very slimline and unlikely to hit anyone. To the people already sitting in their seats while others are still boarding, just give extra room at that time. Often it feels like I am having to dodge and weave around you. If you are storing a large item under the seat, pull it out once you are at the correct altitude and stand it up directly in front of your seat, underneath your thighs. This will give you all the room back under the seat. And in my opinion talking excessively while on the airplane isn't a big deal, perhaps it is for others though. At this point most people have some type of headphones and likely noise cancelling ones. Maybe just try to monitor your volume as you converse.
○ Postflight etiquette - Once the fasten seatbelt sign goes off I try not to just stand in the aisle. Sure you can get up and stand in your row but don't block the aisle. Just how you were able to get up and grab your carryon from the overhead, others would like to do the same. Definitely don't storm to the front of the plane either, cutting in front of everyone else. Perhaps use this time to ask if you can grab any bags for those who want assistance. If I'm on a really tight connection here's what you do. Even if the flight attendants make an announcement and try their hardest, people do not care (a lack of patience on your end should not constitute an emergency for me). While the plane is on it's taxi to the gate and is about to park, take this time to carefully get up and walk to the front of the plane. There is nothing the flight attendants can do although I wouldn't invite confrontation or discussions with them while doing this, they do understand though. Aside from this circumstance, I am a very big believer that everyone should deplane in correct order. Unless it is someone who is clearly not ready to deplane, let the rows in front of you finish before you go. A little patience and courteousy goes a long way here. This is one of the only times I've gotten confrontational with someone at the airport. Now I'm not afraid to step in front of someone who wants to cut me, sorry pal. DEFINITELY do not crowd the baggage carousel either, I won't hesitate to get right in there next to you while trying to get MY bag and YOU will look bad.
○ Lastly just be nice to people. Be mindful of lines and don't cut them. If you see someone doing this, POLITELY let them know. I was just travelling through a small airport and saw someone getting yelled at by multiple people for potentially cutting the rental car bus line. I had just arrived to the terminal from dropping my car off and I heard over the bus drivers radio that it was getting busy at the terminal and they were sending three empty buses. That big line was about to get completely dissolved in a matter of minutes.
Out of curiosity, what puzzle game do you play?
Somebody sitting next to me was filing their nails during the flight. When I told him to stop, he asked me what he wanted me to do. I said not that. I don't want to inhale your cuticle residue.
Precheck! No shoe removal, no laptop removal, etc.
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Do not bring break-out plugs or extension cords for use at airport wall chargers. They are generally not designed to handle the extra devices. Better safe and rude than unsafe but mannered.
Outlets will be on a breaker and are usually sized for capacitance accordingly, so I don't think you'd blow anything up doing this. But still a good idea!
@@danielfix7871 While I agree; the problem is that the design specifications for these usually do not view multiple devices on a single outlet as a typical use-case. Similar to how a chair may be designed to handle two individuals sitting on it simultaneously, that doesn't make it advisable.
Here is why my goal is to just fly on a private jet. I’m about $200k/year short.
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The main big rule should simply be don't wait for the last hour, minute or second. Just come early and come ready. As the flight nor the fellow travelers are your designated nanny/babysitters.
This is great security line etiquette. If you are unsure of typical conditions and cannot check live wait times online, show up 2 hours beforehand. I can't tell you how many people have had to ask to cut in front of me. Not a big deal if something happened but just do your part. And by the way, I've seen people say "no" when you ask to cut them and will likely be rude about it. Sometimes they aren't willing to help but it doesn't hurt to ask a TSA agent if you can go to a faster line if you are running late. And don't be that person in line who won't let anyone go in front of them.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll pass it along.
Take your tray off the belt at security, don't just take stuff out of your bin and walk away!!!!
Great tip
People will never stop crowding the gate 😢
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100% disagree with the overhead bin space etiquette. Checking a bag these days typically costs money, and if you pay to check a bag, and then required to stick your personal item under the seat in front further reducing your leg room to accommodate someone else who decided to 1) didn't check their bag and 2) paid for a lower fare for a ticket and boarded after you.
Then don't check your bag, and use the overhead bin space just like everyone else.....what, you think you are somehow entitled to use the overhead bin for your personal item just because you chose to pay to check your carry-on bag, instead of bringing it on-board?
People have zero respect nowadays. Manners are all gone once they set a foot on the plane. And wonder why people dont want tourists anymore...
The flight attendant will ask to let those with a tight connect Deboard first. Nobody listens.
I'm the last seat in premium economy to skip anyone complaining about me reclining.
You can see my full comment on this up above but I've literally never had anyone complain about this and I recline on every single flight with over 100 flights taken. Have you had someone say anything before?
@@danielfix7871 On an air transat flight coming back from Punta Cana.
People who don’t wear socks to the airport drive me nuts. I have to stand in the yellow footprints in the scanner and invariably am behind some Lotrimin spokesperson. At least carry some peds!!!
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Oof, I feel like the airlines need to come up with a solution for this though.
Thank you! Been a while since I have flown, so this was good refresher as flying soon.
PS the b roll footage with masks makes it feel years old.
KEEP ELBOWS IN if you’re in an aisle seat so boarding passengers can get by without touching you!
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It's sad but people won't learn these days unless you just push through them I guess.
Pls all do it. 😂
Can this be played on planes instead of the corpo-garbage, "We love our customers and we're all family here in the skies!" videos?
Great advice but missed opportunity for a demure collab. ✨
don't put your damn bag sideways in the overhead compartment please
doesn't matter how many reminders you hear from the airline, people just throw their bag, coat, purse, second bag, whatever all there
of course we crowd when boarding, I don't want my small bag checked just because some animal before me took the whole overhead for him/herself
I just learned this the other day but apparently some planes are designed for "taco" style loading and others "hamburger" style. Do not put it sideways regardless. I will be rearranging your stuff if you do and I know flight attendants will too. Have some courtesy!
Planes have different configurations regarding overhead space, so that will dictate how you stow your bag. In most cases, the FA will remind people how to orient their bags.
What about the oh I met the metal detector. I might as well empty out my pockets now crowd?
Do you see this happen often? I've witnessed it every once in a while, if it's a family with kids or a lot going on try to have a little extra patience.
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Do not hit people with your rolly-carry-on either. Looking at you, boomers.
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Gate lice.
Not sure if these count as 'rules'...these are pretty common sense & generally considered good etiquette...I guess one would/should follow most of these regardless...and, of course, no need to show off when you do follow these (yeah, I'm looking at your 'influencers'!!)...I mean, it's the bare minimum 'politeness' required to get people through what is generally considered a stressful time (travel - esp. air travel)...
I guess consideration for the fellow human being is going out of style/fashion/mode...............
What is the etiquette for when a large obese person spreads their body fat in your seat. Yes, I understand they may have a medical reason for being obese but this has happened to be on more than one occasion on a long haul flight and is most unpleasant having a hot sweating mass of fat pushing up against your body.
How about people with restless kids don't force them upon hundreds of people that have nowhere to escape for hours? You chose to have a kid, I didn't, so you should make the sacrifice/effort of travelling via a different method, or plan trips that don't require flying for a few years.
In a cafe if they annoy me I can get up and leave, so it's fine, I don't get mad or anything. But on a plane I get to be a "prisoner" with your crying/kicking child.
Also what kind of "police state" do you run over there? I have never been asked to remove any item of clothing, except my coat/jacket during winter, in any EU airport (I use a belt with plastic buckle). I've seen some people being asked to remove shoes, but no idea on what criteria and they were very few.
And some airports even don't have the liquids rule, bring as much as you want and no need to pack it separately. They have some new scanners installed that will detect explosives w/o even opening the bags. Laptops can also stay. (Basically you don't have to ever open your bags)
Crying children are definitely a shame but I was probably that baby once so I try to remember that. You may have a well behaved child and not think they will start crying but you never know until you get up in the air and each flight is different. It's annoying but as the video says they are probably already getting looks and doing everything they can. Ear protection is very cheap and does not take up much room.
@@danielfix7871 You may have been that crying baby once, but that wasn't your fault, it was your parents'. I know for a fact I wasn't, my parents never flew with me anywhere till I was 13 (and not because they couldn't or wouldn't have wanted to).
My presence on the plane doesn't cause any discomfort to either the parent, or the child, so the same should be true the other way around.
If it's not acceptable for me, as an adult, to be kicking and screaming, neither should it be for a baby/child. "But they lack the self control" you might say; that's why the responsibility to shield others from their antics shifts to their parents, who, as I already said, should make sacrifices for the sake of others until their child is old enough to not be a nuisance.
Airlines should have adult only flights, just like there are restaurants, resorts, hotels. Either that or make it MUCH more expensive to travel with a child, in order to discourage it.
PS: can't have something on or in my ears, not hearing the world around me gives me anxiety/mild claustrophobia. Haven't even worn a pair of open headphones since I was a child, let alone something that could block noise. And either way, I shouldn't have to spend money in order to protect myself from their carelessness about their child annoying a plane full of people.
👍 It's unfortunate that it's necessary to tell anyone these truisms. It's like needing to explain keeping right except to pass and keeping up with traffic.