Man was told in front of a million people by the wife of an EVP that he was only hired to entice Josh Alexander to leave Impact. Of course he said this.
Vince being ousted from WWE was probably the worst thing that could have happened to AEW. One of the biggest draws was the creative freedom and not being subject to the chaotic whims of Vince. Trips is doing a decent job for now of finding a middle ground between the disorganised chaos of AEW with too many having a say, and the myopic hyper control of Vince where all but the absolute top guys being subject to his ever changing whims.
You can't call WWE chaotic and unorganized. Dijak wasn't able to break through for whatever reason despite his immense talent, but it wasn't due to the same things Page is complaining about
The reason why this is a little more significant is that Ethan page is just another person that keeps saying what everyone else has been saying for years about AEW. Everybody gets criticized for saying that and all the apologists keep saying how AW is perfect. It’s incredible and it’s the best wrestling company and everybody is happier there than they ever were in WWE and all that kind of crap. But all of the wrestlers that have left there have complained about the company. You cannot say that every wrestler that has left WWE has complained about WWE. You also can’t amplify the wrestlers that complain about WWE and ignore or excuse away those that complain about AEW.
The reason why this is a little more significant is that Ethan page is just another person that keeps saying what everyone else has been saying for years about AEW. Everybody gets criticized for saying that and all the apologists keep saying how AW is perfect. It’s incredible and it’s the best wrestling company and everybody is happier there than they ever were in WWE and all that kind of crap. But all of the wrestlers that have left there have complained about the company. You cannot say that every wrestler that has left WWE has complained about WWE. You also can’t amplify the wrestlers that complain about WWE and ignore or excuse away those that complain about AEW.
I mean shit using the argument that WWE is less chaotic and more organized, purely because of the amount of time they've been a company is honestly offensive to WWE. Cause regardless if it's 5, 15, or 50 years, Tony Kahn is aew biggest problem, he's Vince Russo 2.0, aew is becoming WCW 3.0 and impact 2.0.
The freedom to do whatever you want is the draw to some of the talent. I think the sentiment from guys about WWE (at least old WWE under mcmahon) was that it was overly scripted and you had no freedom to do what you wanted, but it's fair to argue that AEW have gone too far in the other direction which I would probably agree with. When you're responsible for your own promos and pitching your own ideas, whether you sink or swim is solely on you. Guys like MJF thrive b/c he's both a good worker and a good mind for the business, but not everybody's like that.
@@SandMan1998 say that to the rock stone cold chris jericho undertaker HBK triple h and a plethora of other talent that got themselves over in the attitude era. It can be done you just need to be talented enough to run with a live mic.
@@jimmysruffled while this true. For every Stone Cold that used creative freedom to help WWF at the time, there’s a hulk hogan and the finger point of doom to show why creative freedom in wrestling isn’t always the best.
@@elite_artist351 valid point can't argue with that. Just given the context of the situation I think some people can thrive off with pure freedom and obviously some talent needs to be pointed in a direction I think aew can make it work I just don't think tony is the man to operate that kind of environment.
Someone who was let go from AEW, who (rightfully) had issues with Tony Khan and booking, who has moved to an absolute machine of a company in WWE that orchestrates and micromanages all their talent... says AEW is chaotic. I like Page as a person but this is just a former employee bigging up his current job, nothing more.
A lot of the people who leave AEW seem like the type who see bigger things for themselves and their career as opposed to just being an enchantment talent. Which is fine, but I tend to notice that a lot of the people who complain aren’t the types that you’d pay money to watch programs with. Go look at the AEW roster and compare who’s underutilized vs who is. It makes sense why the ones being used are being used. It’s apples to apples, pretty obvious. Also, lot of fats been trimmed from the roster. It’s pretty obvious as opposed to how it was this time last year.
People tried to say that Punk was the problem and all that, but now multiple wrestlers that have left AEW are all saying pretty much the same thing about how the company is run. I wanted them to succeed, I really did. But this whole mess might be unsalvageable at this point.
Two companies, ROH & AEW, three TV shows and I don't know what else, and the talent is just randomly anywhere, not necessarily a signed to a show or a company, that's my biggest issue, nothing establishes an identity.
130 active male and female wrestlers, another 10-12 out due to injuries, incoming ricochet and dijak. Try figuring out how to put all those people on TV
@@JustBecauseidk5 well given all egos track record he seems to be in the business of burning bridges more than working. Slammed TNA after he departed with them and has done the same with aew and when it doesn't turn out for him in nxt I'd assume there will another tweet coming our way how he couldn't "thrive" in that company either.
@elite_artist351 in fairness, their main audience are gonna be terminally online geeks 😂 love the guys but they've always been overly generous because people don't want real criticism.
The only good thing that could happen with Knockvillie at MiB would be for him to try and interfere and wind up totally destroyed by Bron and be carried out unconsciou. This should happen early and not affect who wins the match.
It seems to me that AEW is run like a big indie rather than a big business. They sign great wrestlers and pay them well, but they don't seem to have built a long-term personnel infrastructure. But then again, Ethan Page may just be in the "honeymoon" stage of his relationship with WWE. He may find himself facing frustrations of a different sort down the line.
He is not the first to come out and say that. Big Swole, CM Punk William Regal have all come out and talked about how they were treated and how the company is a clown show. Alundra Blaze was shocked no woman showed up for training with Dustin. Sooooooo Aew won't last much longer. It is a Childs Toybox
That’s very true, but he made it clear to fans at meet and greets when asked about AEW during his time there and you could tell the frustration was boiling over. He was never mean or rude but he was very open with his disappointment in his run
@@chrismccarty7128 lol it'll last just fine, you're being wildly dramatic. You have an honest interview with anybody leaving WWE they can have some stuff to say about that place as well, look what they almost did to Cody and WrestleMania!
@@WillyKillyaThey can't say the same things about WWE. WWE has a vision and cares about growing its audience. AEW can have staying power, but they need to stay off the internet and start acting like professionals. Otherwise it's just a glorified internet show catering to smarks.
@@WillyKillya Sooooo Dijak talking shit and others having done so for YEARS is ignored by you? AEW is on a burning course downhill and this comes from someone who attends all types of wrestling shows. Not just a WWE or AEW Diehard.
On the one hand, it could be true. AEW is trying to be different to WWE so they do things differently but that has it's own issues. But WWE has proven itself the master of misinformation and it's not the first time a wrestler had to denigrate a former employer on the orders of a new one.
I’m sorry but the “WWE has been doing this a long time” doesn’t work anymore. AEW, should not be having some of the backstage craziness..Tony is just not an effective boss.
Every single person that has left AEW has said something. Tully Blanchard has talked about how bad it was Kazarian and CM punk and Ethan page and Brian Pillman Junior. People loved to point out, Dijak saying bad things about WWE, but you know they are going to ignore Ethan page and others and just writing it off. No criticism of AEW is allowed even by the people that have actually worked there.
@@WillyKillya Say what Vince was the problem WWE had in recent times everyone believes that but Vince is long gone and under HHH it's not a problem no one said it.
@@pratikroy227 triple h had his honeymoon period, just like AEW did the first few years, and now we're seeing people like ricochet and Dijak annoyed and leaving. Plus having triple h in charge was it enough for Mercedes Mone to go back, which I know people are trying to rewrite history but WWE fans were sure and happy that she was going to return and she didn't
I'm not gonna say anything mean about aew Wwe has been around a lot longer, so they worked out most of the kinks hopefully aew gets it together but as for a damn Cole I think it's about time he looks into becoming a manager For people who can't cut promos
All the top stars choose AEW over wwe so i don't think it can be that bad . Not everyone likes rollercosters. Probably should go to wwe where its more quieter n slow paced
Ethan's comments sound familiar - like, Jericho described AEW as unscripted, and you have to prove your worth but you will always be respected when you prove your worth. Whereas... WWE either sees your worth and values you, or is willing to shitcan you/relegate you to nothing assignments even if you are massively talented.
Ethan Page deserved better then the Stop Start booking Aew kept putting him through. Dude was legit Champion material but instead they give belts to midgets like Darby Allin or Jack Perry.
Have Knoxville in the crowd during the Sami-Bron match try to get involved - either to help Sami, or help Bron with it backfiring - where Knoxville takes a spear from Breaker at ringside
I mean, this honestly makes sense. Let's be honest, WWE has done to others what AEW did to Ethan Page more times than we can count, and that is simply misusing them to the point where they leave and are bitter. I mean, think of Jon Moxley. He HATED how he was used in WWE, despite winning a lot of championships and being featured regularly. Mox has said that his time in AEW has been a dream for him, so it does depend on context. Don't get me wrong, Ethan Page was royally misused, as he is a top-tier talent that should be right up there with the upper echelon of AEW talent, but he just kept getting held back. I also understand that WWE's and AEW's backstage cultures are wildly different, and just like with any business, you are going to have your handful of employees that want lots of structure and your handful of employees that want lots of freedom. Sadly, you cannot have both a strong structure and freedom in a business, so ultimately this is going to boil down to talent preference. The older AEW gets and the more they cement their backstage culture and ideals, the more wrestlers will know which direction they would like to go. Obviously, guys like Bryan Danielson and Mox are much happier in AEW, while guys like Ethan Page and Lexi King are much happier in WWE. Like I said, it's going to depend on the wrestler.
Story 1: reports say AEW is chaotic and unorganised Story 2: hey remember that Adam Cole return, MJF face turn, Adam Cole disappeared, MJF heel turn saga
Don't forget the Devil storyline was meant for MJF and Punk before Punk got fired. Rather than abort they leaned into it with an injured Cole. What a mess.
AEW has become a shambles, but I still prefer it over WWE. Roster needs culling, so many good people are being wasted, like Ruby Soho, FFS stop it with Orange Cassidy. a 2 trick pony that is now boring, there is some real talent just doing nothing, and people like Saraya....just why is she wasting a spot and likely costing a lot, and for what? Why Mone has been signed is beyond me, there are several better women already there....USE THEM. TK needs to hire an experienced person to book, He is not doing a good job.
I believe ethan page stances on all elite wrestling this not the first time we hear rumors on backstage politics in that company man cm punk and jade cargil have already exposing the truth so is not nothing new.
So? If you did not think that it was good then you’re not exactly gonna say good things about it. Maybe it’s coming from a place of bitterness and maybe it’s not. But just because he did not like TNA does not mean that his criticism of AEW is less valid. Ethan page is only saying the same things that so many other people that left AEW have been saying.
Everyone jumping for joy that a wrestler said something negative about AEW… how many times have wrestlers come out and said negative things about WWE? It happens on both sides. It happens in every industry. Give EP a few years, he might have a different tune and it wouldn’t be surprising. Stop actively rooting for less wresting companies to exist you weirdos.
Of course they’re gonna make a video right away. Are they gonna talk about what MVP has been saying about Triple H of course not or everything Mercedes said about Vince of course not.
I wouldn't call AEW perfect but Ethan Page never got over. I think that's his fault. He wants to be held by the hand but WWE will never take him far, he will enjoy some kind of temporary usage and fade into obscurity. AEW used him a lot at least. But we'll see.
Yeah, Bobby Roode from Wish seems to be his peak. And while Bobby had a level of charisma to him that Ethan doesn't seem to, even he didn't really break that generic character out of the mold or anything.
people are going straight to trashing aew cause its trendy some people in wwe would do better in aew and vice versa ethan is one of those guys that would do better with a script
To be fair WWE has been around for about 60 years and have had decades to perfect the formula that they have AEW has only been around for 5 years pretty much baby compared to WWE so as a fan I'm not surprised its chaotic behind the scenes hopefully it smooths out when they find an identity.
AEW might be five years old but they've hired people backstage with more than 30 years of experience, in some cases up to 50 years. Some of them are Mania main eventers even.
Man, aew exists just to spite a popular company. Now there's no reason to spite anymore because the architect of what made them spite them has gone, and they have absolutely no other idea how to go about it. When in doubt in aew, put together a new super heel faction. That's their only kind of idea.
Its wild how these quotes n stories always come out when AEW is building momentum or does something good. Between forbidden door and this past dynamite aew has killed it. And like clockwork ex aew guys like matt hardy and ethan page come out burying aew. Never fails.
This has happened to wwe so many times, but just like when wrestlers, etc, do this with wwe, wrestlers who have left aew on good or bad terms have the right and definitely voice their opinion.
I think because of how controlling Vince was, AEW's idea was to go the polar opposite. Which has its own different set of issues that we're seeing.
Additionally, most of the staff didn’t have experience with running a promotion on this scale.
Weird. Turns out that, even when fans hated wwe and Vince, it's almost like he knew how to actually run a fucking business. Imagine that.
@@chrissalem3747yeah 😂
You think there is any way Tony Khan is gonna put his foot down?
@@chrissalem3747I mean he definitely did, but perhaps less of the sexual assault stuff
Trish could keep my attention for 3 hours
Cheeky 3rd news video? Yes please.
Ex AEW star says "rain is wet"
Man was told in front of a million people by the wife of an EVP that he was only hired to entice Josh Alexander to leave Impact. Of course he said this.
Why is my referencing Brandi saying on a live Dynamite that Ethan was only hired so Josh would also leave getting flagged. It happened. Why hide it?
Adam looks upset as his tory party struggled
Dude shut the fuck up he isn't a tory.
Vince being ousted from WWE was probably the worst thing that could have happened to AEW.
One of the biggest draws was the creative freedom and not being subject to the chaotic whims of Vince.
Trips is doing a decent job for now of finding a middle ground between the disorganised chaos of AEW with too many having a say, and the myopic hyper control of Vince where all but the absolute top guys being subject to his ever changing whims.
Scott D’amore is the right guy to save AEW’s booking after his contract expires.
I thought they fired Scott?
@@kingjuju600 He's under a non-compete until 2025.
@@soulessshadow5356he still collecting those TNA’s check.
@@soulessshadow5356 good luck waiting for a whole year
If you need somebody to clear out catering, Scott is your man, but let's stop pretending like he is anybody worth hiring for anything more than that.
0:42 So, what happened to Dijak, if Ethan Page is getting this treatment why couldn't Dijak????
It happens. People not happy where they were critiquing now. Dijak did the same thing literally last week.
You can't call WWE chaotic and unorganized. Dijak wasn't able to break through for whatever reason despite his immense talent, but it wasn't due to the same things Page is complaining about
The reason why this is a little more significant is that Ethan page is just another person that keeps saying what everyone else has been saying for years about AEW. Everybody gets criticized for saying that and all the apologists keep saying how AW is perfect. It’s incredible and it’s the best wrestling company and everybody is happier there than they ever were in WWE and all that kind of crap. But all of the wrestlers that have left there have complained about the company. You cannot say that every wrestler that has left WWE has complained about WWE. You also can’t amplify the wrestlers that complain about WWE and ignore or excuse away those that complain about AEW.
The reason why this is a little more significant is that Ethan page is just another person that keeps saying what everyone else has been saying for years about AEW. Everybody gets criticized for saying that and all the apologists keep saying how AW is perfect. It’s incredible and it’s the best wrestling company and everybody is happier there than they ever were in WWE and all that kind of crap. But all of the wrestlers that have left there have complained about the company. You cannot say that every wrestler that has left WWE has complained about WWE. You also can’t amplify the wrestlers that complain about WWE and ignore or excuse away those that complain about AEW.
I mean shit using the argument that WWE is less chaotic and more organized, purely because of the amount of time they've been a company is honestly offensive to WWE. Cause regardless if it's 5, 15, or 50 years, Tony Kahn is aew biggest problem, he's Vince Russo 2.0, aew is becoming WCW 3.0 and impact 2.0.
As a fan of over 30 years?...NOPE... not at all.
The freedom to do whatever you want is the draw to some of the talent. I think the sentiment from guys about WWE (at least old WWE under mcmahon) was that it was overly scripted and you had no freedom to do what you wanted, but it's fair to argue that AEW have gone too far in the other direction which I would probably agree with. When you're responsible for your own promos and pitching your own ideas, whether you sink or swim is solely on you. Guys like MJF thrive b/c he's both a good worker and a good mind for the business, but not everybody's like that.
Wrestlers should never have creative freedoms
@@SandMan1998 say that to the rock stone cold chris jericho undertaker HBK triple h and a plethora of other talent that got themselves over in the attitude era. It can be done you just need to be talented enough to run with a live mic.
@@jimmysruffled while this true. For every Stone Cold that used creative freedom to help WWF at the time, there’s a hulk hogan and the finger point of doom to show why creative freedom in wrestling isn’t always the best.
@@elite_artist351 valid point can't argue with that. Just given the context of the situation I think some people can thrive off with pure freedom and obviously some talent needs to be pointed in a direction I think aew can make it work I just don't think tony is the man to operate that kind of environment.
Ex employee of (place company name here) says he/she had a bad time working there.
And this is surprising to anyone?
Aew made me more impressed by what wwe does
Tory Pacitti Confirmed
Its been 5 years. We ain't giving NWA the same excuses for being "new". Time for AEW to work on their mess.
NWA is even older than WWE...
Trish showed up as a surprise guest at the Sami Zayn comedy show in Toronto on Thursday as well.
You talk about nxt ratings this week with Ethan page there .
What's with the Cultaholic ribbon?
Yesterday was elections in the UK. A new government was formed out of it.
Blue confirms Tori Pacitti
@@synyster13fulthought Adam was a deform party follower
Someone who was let go from AEW, who (rightfully) had issues with Tony Khan and booking, who has moved to an absolute machine of a company in WWE that orchestrates and micromanages all their talent... says AEW is chaotic. I like Page as a person but this is just a former employee bigging up his current job, nothing more.
A lot of the people who leave AEW seem like the type who see bigger things for themselves and their career as opposed to just being an enchantment talent. Which is fine, but I tend to notice that a lot of the people who complain aren’t the types that you’d pay money to watch programs with. Go look at the AEW roster and compare who’s underutilized vs who is. It makes sense why the ones being used are being used. It’s apples to apples, pretty obvious.
Also, lot of fats been trimmed from the roster. It’s pretty obvious as opposed to how it was this time last year.
People tried to say that Punk was the problem and all that, but now multiple wrestlers that have left AEW are all saying pretty much the same thing about how the company is run. I wanted them to succeed, I really did. But this whole mess might be unsalvageable at this point.
I like Ethan Page but he has been a WWE mark his entire life so it was only a matter of time before he left AEW regardless.
Does he have a history of talking up WWE?
AEW doesn't know what they don't know...... and they don't seem interested in learning. (IE Arn Anderson, William Regal not being asked for advice.,.)
One of the aew problems is that they have 1 roster for 3 shows (more if you count ROH) but aren’t utilising all the available talent across the three
Two companies, ROH & AEW, three TV shows and I don't know what else, and the talent is just randomly anywhere, not necessarily a signed to a show or a company, that's my biggest issue, nothing establishes an identity.
130 active male and female wrestlers, another 10-12 out due to injuries, incoming ricochet and dijak. Try figuring out how to put all those people on TV
i love how you don't want to speculate about what an ex AEW has to say about his exit, but you suck up whatever Dijak spews and speculate about that.
@@JustBecauseidk5 well given all egos track record he seems to be in the business of burning bridges more than working. Slammed TNA after he departed with them and has done the same with aew and when it doesn't turn out for him in nxt I'd assume there will another tweet coming our way how he couldn't "thrive" in that company either.
@@jimmysrufflednaw he’s got a point, some of the cultaholic crew are quick to defend and find every excuse and justification for AEW.
@@elite_artist351Facts!!!!!!!
@elite_artist351 in fairness, their main audience are gonna be terminally online geeks 😂 love the guys but they've always been overly generous because people don't want real criticism.
@@kitpalmer1583 🤣 you are correct
Careful Ethan, don't upset the Khan otherwise he'll show some backstage footage of ya.
The only good thing that could happen with Knockvillie at MiB would be for him to try and interfere and wind up totally destroyed by Bron and be carried out unconsciou. This should happen early and not affect who wins the match.
"breaking news: former employee says exact same thing as every other person in the industry has been saying for months"
Even if Giulia isn't going to be at Heatwave in person. They might be able to still tease something at least somehow.
I was hoping for AJ Lee to show up and getting herself involved in the Punk/ McIntyre feud?
It seems to me that AEW is run like a big indie rather than a big business. They sign great wrestlers and pay them well, but they don't seem to have built a long-term personnel infrastructure.
But then again, Ethan Page may just be in the "honeymoon" stage of his relationship with WWE. He may find himself facing frustrations of a different sort down the line.
He is not the first to come out and say that. Big Swole, CM Punk William Regal have all come out and talked about how they were treated and how the company is a clown show. Alundra Blaze was shocked no woman showed up for training with Dustin. Sooooooo Aew won't last much longer. It is a Childs Toybox
That’s very true, but he made it clear to fans at meet and greets when asked about AEW during his time there and you could tell the frustration was boiling over. He was never mean or rude but he was very open with his disappointment in his run
@@chrismccarty7128 lol it'll last just fine, you're being wildly dramatic. You have an honest interview with anybody leaving WWE they can have some stuff to say about that place as well, look what they almost did to Cody and WrestleMania!
@@WillyKillyaThey can't say the same things about WWE. WWE has a vision and cares about growing its audience. AEW can have staying power, but they need to stay off the internet and start acting like professionals. Otherwise it's just a glorified internet show catering to smarks.
@@WillyKillya Sooooo Dijak talking shit and others having done so for YEARS is ignored by you? AEW is on a burning course downhill and this comes from someone who attends all types of wrestling shows. Not just a WWE or AEW Diehard.
On the one hand, it could be true. AEW is trying to be different to WWE so they do things differently but that has it's own issues. But WWE has proven itself the master of misinformation and it's not the first time a wrestler had to denigrate a former employer on the orders of a new one.
I’m sorry but the “WWE has been doing this a long time” doesn’t work anymore. AEW, should not be having some of the backstage craziness..Tony is just not an effective boss.
ethan page also said "pain hurts and it gets hot in the summer."
Trish walking is exciting.
Isnt it obvious, kazarian mentioned before about aew backstage culture so we shouldnt be surprised about it.
Its always jobbers and lower card guys complaining
@@ApolloTheLeader you can say jobbers who complain but it doesnt disprove the fact about what they said.
@ApolloTheLeader Not relevant unless you're trying to incorrectly spin this as jealousy or something like that with no proof
@@ApolloTheLeader really? So CM punk was a jobber? I could’ve sworn that he was the world champion over there.
Every single person that has left AEW has said something. Tully Blanchard has talked about how bad it was Kazarian and CM punk and Ethan page and Brian Pillman Junior. People loved to point out, Dijak saying bad things about WWE, but you know they are going to ignore Ethan page and others and just writing it off. No criticism of AEW is allowed even by the people that have actually worked there.
How many times does someone have to say that about AEW before people actually believe that it's real
How many times does someone have to say that about WWE before people start believing it's real?
@@WillyKillya say what?
@@WillyKillya Say what Vince was the problem WWE had in recent times everyone believes that but Vince is long gone and under HHH it's not a problem no one said it.
@@pratikroy227 triple h had his honeymoon period, just like AEW did the first few years, and now we're seeing people like ricochet and Dijak annoyed and leaving.
Plus having triple h in charge was it enough for Mercedes Mone to go back, which I know people are trying to rewrite history but WWE fans were sure and happy that she was going to return and she didn't
Don't know, AEW fans are weird. They threatened people lives for giving opinions
I'm not gonna say anything mean about aew Wwe has been around a lot longer, so they worked out most of the kinks hopefully aew gets it together but as for a damn Cole I think it's about time he looks into becoming a manager For people who can't cut promos
Oh look another person coming out with the same opinion how many is that now at least 10 or so
In other news, water is wet
Ethan also talked trash about Impact Wrestling
All the top stars choose AEW over wwe so i don't think it can be that bad . Not everyone likes rollercosters. Probably should go to wwe where its more quieter n slow paced
Ethan's comments sound familiar - like, Jericho described AEW as unscripted, and you have to prove your worth but you will always be respected when you prove your worth. Whereas...
WWE either sees your worth and values you, or is willing to shitcan you/relegate you to nothing assignments even if you are massively talented.
You guys always defend AEW!!!! Always!!!!
Ethan Page deserved better then the Stop Start booking Aew kept putting him through. Dude was legit Champion material but instead they give belts to midgets like Darby Allin or Jack Perry.
Have Knoxville in the crowd during the Sami-Bron match try to get involved - either to help Sami, or help Bron with it backfiring - where Knoxville takes a spear from Breaker at ringside
Every wrestler slams on there former company 😆
you´re fired dead you ´re fired 0 dead 0 dead 0 dead 0 dead 0 dead you ´re fired dead 0
remember when Ciampa was cool
I mean, this honestly makes sense. Let's be honest, WWE has done to others what AEW did to Ethan Page more times than we can count, and that is simply misusing them to the point where they leave and are bitter. I mean, think of Jon Moxley. He HATED how he was used in WWE, despite winning a lot of championships and being featured regularly. Mox has said that his time in AEW has been a dream for him, so it does depend on context. Don't get me wrong, Ethan Page was royally misused, as he is a top-tier talent that should be right up there with the upper echelon of AEW talent, but he just kept getting held back.
I also understand that WWE's and AEW's backstage cultures are wildly different, and just like with any business, you are going to have your handful of employees that want lots of structure and your handful of employees that want lots of freedom. Sadly, you cannot have both a strong structure and freedom in a business, so ultimately this is going to boil down to talent preference. The older AEW gets and the more they cement their backstage culture and ideals, the more wrestlers will know which direction they would like to go. Obviously, guys like Bryan Danielson and Mox are much happier in AEW, while guys like Ethan Page and Lexi King are much happier in WWE. Like I said, it's going to depend on the wrestler.
Thanks 🎉
I liked the men of the year tage team he was in
I don't think it's a new thing
Trish don’t need to do acting that involves talking. She’s horrible on a mic.
Noooo… really, AEW is unorganised?
I’m shocked… SHOCKED I SAY!
Story 1: reports say AEW is chaotic and unorganised
Story 2: hey remember that Adam Cole return, MJF face turn, Adam Cole disappeared, MJF heel turn saga
Don't forget the Devil storyline was meant for MJF and Punk before Punk got fired. Rather than abort they leaned into it with an injured Cole. What a mess.
Chaotic and unorganized. SHOCKED. SHOCKED I SAY.
Hire D'Amore and give him the book.
aew is the titanic & the wrestlers are the iceberg can’t wait to see what happens when mercedes doesn’t get her way
I got my popcorn ready🤣🤣
Bark bark 🤭 great legacy
... why is pacitti wearing a wig?
Yea I bet it’s fun in the warehouse
AEW has become a shambles, but I still prefer it over WWE. Roster needs culling, so many good people are being wasted, like Ruby Soho, FFS stop it with Orange Cassidy. a 2 trick pony that is now boring, there is some real talent just doing nothing, and people like Saraya....just why is she wasting a spot and likely costing a lot, and for what? Why Mone has been signed is beyond me, there are several better women already there....USE THEM. TK needs to hire an experienced person to book, He is not doing a good job.
The chaotic and unorganised thing comes across on tv with the product, as a casual its so hard to tell what is actually going on there
I'd love to have Sami get his win back over a heel Knoxville
I believe ethan page stances on all elite wrestling this not the first time we hear rumors on backstage politics in that company man cm punk and jade cargil have already exposing the truth so is not nothing new.
TBF Ethan also shit on Impact when he left there too.
So? If you did not think that it was good then you’re not exactly gonna say good things about it. Maybe it’s coming from a place of bitterness and maybe it’s not. But just because he did not like TNA does not mean that his criticism of AEW is less valid. Ethan page is only saying the same things that so many other people that left AEW have been saying.
not making excuses for aew starts making excuses for aew you can tell these guys are only getting there new from
uncle dave now
Didnt have to tell us that 😅 we all saw the punkxperry
It's only the jobbers who talk shit about AEW when they leave.
Hopefully, you're not an aew fan talking like this 🤦♂️
@@joshwilliams549 he's a fanboy for AEW. can't accept anyone giving them any kind of criticism.
Everyone who leaves AEW and goes to WWE ends up being booked properly and is more over than they ever were.
@patchworkpants who? Other than Cody, they all fade into the background after a few months.
lij
Everyone jumping for joy that a wrestler said something negative about AEW… how many times have wrestlers come out and said negative things about WWE? It happens on both sides. It happens in every industry. Give EP a few years, he might have a different tune and it wouldn’t be surprising.
Stop actively rooting for less wresting companies to exist you weirdos.
Not rooting for fewer companies to exist, rooting for fewer clown show trash bins to exist.
It's more breaking news to me that Talk'n Shop is back and they're doing it without Rocky.
Well rocky is the office for both aew and njpw so he is more than likely to busy to do it
Of course they’re gonna make a video right away. Are they gonna talk about what MVP has been saying about Triple H of course not or everything Mercedes said about Vince of course not.
What did MVP say, was it recent? I’m just curious.
He liked a lot of tweets about HHH Being racist and said some vague stuff about it I think it was about 3 weeks ago
I wouldn't call AEW perfect but Ethan Page never got over. I think that's his fault. He wants to be held by the hand but WWE will never take him far, he will enjoy some kind of temporary usage and fade into obscurity. AEW used him a lot at least. But we'll see.
Yeah, Bobby Roode from Wish seems to be his peak. And while Bobby had a level of charisma to him that Ethan doesn't seem to, even he didn't really break that generic character out of the mold or anything.
I am suprised what Ethan Page will tell about NXT/WWE when they kick him through their door...
people are going straight to trashing aew cause its trendy some people in wwe would do better in aew and vice versa ethan is one of those guys that would do better with a script
To be fair WWE has been around for about 60 years and have had decades to perfect the formula that they have AEW has only been around for 5 years pretty much baby compared to WWE so as a fan I'm not surprised its chaotic behind the scenes hopefully it smooths out when they find an identity.
5 years to find an identity? If it takes 5 or more years to figure something out just maybe they’re over their head
AEW might be five years old but they've hired people backstage with more than 30 years of experience, in some cases up to 50 years. Some of them are Mania main eventers even.
I mean its been 5 years and it still needs its identity? Its identity is a chaotic mess that it cannot shake right now
I hate when people keep bringing up this lame ass excuse. Find something original
Man, aew exists just to spite a popular company. Now there's no reason to spite anymore because the architect of what made them spite them has gone, and they have absolutely no other idea how to go about it. When in doubt in aew, put together a new super heel faction. That's their only kind of idea.
Mid carder takin like a main eventer😂😂
So in other words he himself couldn't get himself over.
There is a reason Ethan page is in NXT instead of main roster
Overrated
Another salty wrestler complaining about the company that didn't "book them properly".
Ethan 👀 😂😂😂
Its wild how these quotes n stories always come out when AEW is building momentum or does something good. Between forbidden door and this past dynamite aew has killed it. And like clockwork ex aew guys like matt hardy and ethan page come out burying aew. Never fails.
This has happened to wwe so many times, but just like when wrestlers, etc, do this with wwe, wrestlers who have left aew on good or bad terms have the right and definitely voice their opinion.
Maybe but Ethan Page is now in developmental. So he downgraded
wait till ethan page gets called up and ends up stuck on main event i bet hes going to change his mind again
No wonder he trashing about AEW now
After retirement on someone podcast he will say wwe wrote this nonsense to me and I am innocent
It’s funny. The good brothers are irrelevant and on NXT. And so is Paige.