For Art Deco enthusiast the chandelier at the beginning of the scene and at 3:56 is a piece by Marius Sabino. The sconce at 3:59 most probably by J.E. Ruhlmann. Top class French decoration for the 1930's.
It is unquestionably a Sabino chandelier, nobody has ever made a replica of this particular piece/model aside that it will make no sense to replicate this complicated piece just to appear for a few seconds, they could have just used a cheap generic 1920's chandelier. Also, the chandelier could have been added in post production which I doubt it but is Sabino either way. There is currently one for sale in New York, same model, for $40,000 @@dicksteptoe9199
This is like when you see your ex that you loved so much but things didn’t work out. Y’all have love for each other and possibly want to be back together but know deep down it can’t happen
Nah I have zero love or empathy for an ex they left...which means they didn’t have my back which means they’re an enemy if an ex was on fire I’d siphon the nearest gas tank and drink it just to piss gasoline on them
@@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga he was paying the bills gave her a better life saved her from a physically abusive husband. He has the right to sleep outside, what right did she have ? She owed everything to him he even took care of her kids that weren’t his.
@@jamesgentry13 Radios alone aren't uncommon. In fact, ownership of standalone radio units was picking up by then. What's not common is a radio system entirely integrated within an upscale apartment, especially on the middle of the Great Depression.
Not really in the orginal script she dies from syphilis... They cut it out the TV version but will release the full ending in their anniversary edition.
I loved Margaret's character. Loved it. She was the classiest woman on this show. She brought me to tears in this scene. She was wonderful. I'll never forget this show. The best show ever.
She was a manipulative terrible person. She lied on her boyfriend in Ireland claiming rape, abandoned her brother 2 raise a bunch of siblings by himself. Cheated on nucky before he was a cheat, conned him and sold his property, then tried to abandon him without saying a word with Owen. After things didn't work out, she only came back to ask for money
@@ppap9818 and Am I not merciful! Made my day. I thought I was the only Person recognizing this. She always looked like "oh, I'm so unguilty". To cheat, have "fun" and being manipulative is more logical then raise your kids first? Incredibly selfish, specially for the 1920's. Definatly not a Carmela Soprano, she was just an outsider.
i bet 30k was a boatload of money back in those days.. The average hourly wage in 1939 was $.30 and the average income for a household in 1939 was $1,368. Almost a hundred years ago, in 1939, a car cost around $750 and a house about $4,000. You could drive to the store for $.10 a gallon, purchase bread for $.09 a loaf, and buy milk for $.23 per gallon
Margaret's character probably changed the most in the series. If you see her first scene...and her last scene. You see the character made some tough decisions.
@@willywiggles893 It is a Sopranos reference. It was something that Tony said to Carmela when they were going a hard time in their relationship. Tony said it to Carmela as way to say how she acts so high and mighty and pretends that she doesn't know how he makes his money.
Margaret was truly the only character who made it out of BE who you knew was going to be okay. Eli was sort of up in the air - Nucky gave him that big bag of money in their last meeting but it was questionable if June would take him back. Hopefully she did because she and their children were all Eli had left in his world and life. Poor Gillian was left an empty shell....perhaps a little karmic payback but she too was a repeated victim of circumstances. I kind of wonder what happened to Margaret and her children Teddy and Emily after this. We really didn't see Teddy and Emily after Season 2 for various reasons but honestly they really were just minor characters and I think the writers couldn't see any other way of working them into the subsequent seasons and story lines. Presumably Margaret and the kids went on with their lives and perhaps hopefully she finally met a husband who was not an abusive drunk like her 1st husband Hans or a cheating criminal like Nucky, although in comparison Nucky was a much better husband compared to Hans. He truly loved Margaret but just couldn't help his criminal and dark tendencies.
I honestly wanted to see Marga lose go broke and love in poverty for being such a gold digging back stabbin snake.. and Gillian to die. Nucky should have lived. He's the only one that tried to make right. Even Margaret didn't try to make things right she capitalized on what she stole
Yeah, Gillian had a tough life. But she still killed an innocent person. I do feel bad for her, but you should never commit an evil act in the name of "the greater good"
@@ArkansasGamerGillian was never sane. I wouldn’t blame an insane person for murder, their brain is off. Nucky is the one to blame by pimping her off at 13 years old to be continuously r worded by the old commodore.
Penso che questa scena sia il riassunto della vita di Nucky. Nel momento in cui balla e chiude gli occhi è come se stesse finalmente abbandonando il mondo sporco degli inganni in cui vive per entrare in quello sereno dell'amore con Margaret. Ma nel momento stesso in cui li chiude si accendono le luci, si sveglia e tutto torna alla "normalità" ricordandogli così che non può fuggire da quella sporca vita
Margaret betrayed nucky the most. Nuckey wouldn't have had to go underground and get in worse shit if she didn't steal the land money for the new road. That was Nuckys retirement once he got out of politics. Thst was supposed to provide for the kids and Margaret
The final season gets a lot of flack for how rushed it felt but that was due to the studio execs only giving them 8 episodes to finish the story. Considering what they were given I think they did a great job of tying up as many loose ends as possible while maintaining high writing standards. This scene is one of many great scenes in Season 5
im still on season 1, i got so curious that i started reading the wikifan page. i was really confused with her character development throughout since i'm somewhat hopeful for her and her relationship with nucky. i love how they build up their pairing but when i knew all that betrayal and stuff happened, i stopped watching it.
How come we never got to see the kids who are supposed to be teenagers like Tommy Darmody in 1931. We would have love to see them being fleshed out more on what their doing right now like Tony Soprano's kids and Don Draper's kids which include Sally getting some more screentime often.
Margaret is perhaps the most polarizing character on the show. I myself liked her and find many others who did as well, while others vehemently couldnt stand her and call her the worst character on the show. In a show about gangsters, i think her actions werent any worse than the gangster she was involved with.
Personally, she is a well made and well played character all around. But there was a sort of dissonance between her words and actions. If we note that she calls out criminals on their actions while benefitting from and often capitalizing her gains from said actions, being willfully blind to how they affect others in the same or arguably worse than those criminals she condemns, well... Self-righteous to a fault to say the least.
Margaret was a nice woman but she betrayed too many people. Her family plus nucky damn. She’s a good mother and her ex husband was a pos. All in all good show and she was a good actress.
I wish she and Owen would be together some where behind the scenes, i Totally stopped watching this show in S3 episode 10 after the Death of Owen Slater
Margaret was back stabbing, self serving, groveling when she needed money from nucky and the queen of double standards. Her lack of ownership and nagging make her even more unbearable. Nucky should have got rid of that charity case long ago.
Go back to your #metoo party, what a troll.... If you knew anything...youd know they were NEVER married. Not even hinted at, at all in the show...so idk why that question even bubbles up. Clues: 1. Her name remains Ms Schroeder throughout. 2. The kids call Nucky, "Uncle"... In Americana, in the days, this is what a women woukd call a suitor, who is fit to be married, but isn't yet! 3. The arrangement they make in season 1, where it's said that he won't marry her... If the above is a joke, then it's worse than being an obligatory response....
@@gentlemanfarmer6042 Ahem, they do to ALSO get married you false fan. She marries Nucky so she wont have to testify against him. But Sir, please you should feel proud of that EPIC #mansplain. *slow clap*
@@FranSanTeeth90 Your right, a sham marriage is a Marriage too... Eyes rolling, lmao. False fan, I don't think so toots, like I said and I'll say it again you don't know anything. Season 2, the back half is horrific, Why? Because they changed it so vehemently. Jimmy was not supposed to be part of the coup, but Michale Pitt was such a fricken drag on evryone that they had to let him go and right him off the show. Season 2, was supposed to strictly be about the Commodore and Nucky. And it was in the beginning, with Jimmy being egged on. The whole Jimmy I'm power, and the fruits of it are stupid....hes a soldier, hence his talent at killing people. The whole latter half of the story line in season 2 is fucked up because of this, on the spot writing and changing constantly. Season 3, and season 4 are the high water marks of the show,...season 5, also shit, but thay has more to do with HBO cutting them off and forcing a shorter season for the finale. The marriage is so inconsequential and not important, I forgot about it to be honest....because it's a joke, lol A quick the up, to the shakiest season they've ever done. And it's not all of season 2 ether, because the first 6 episodes are amazing and a continuation if the magnificent 1st season.
@@gentlemanfarmer6042 There is a marriage scene. Check the episode I cited. It also explains how Margaret gave the Catholic church that valuable land that belonged to Nucky. It was brief and private especially for Nucky.
I hated her character. She always pretended to be better than other people and was just as terrible as the people around her. Opportunistic and ungrateful. Plus, the entire situation was completely unrealistic. I kept thinking to myself watching this show, "Is she the only woman in town?!" As so many men tripped over themselves to be around her or were enamored by her. Who was writing this crap?! She was argumentative and manipulative, and also had children already. History would have supported the notion that most men during this period in time would have avoided her at all cost. Especially a guy with money and power like Nucky.
@@jimmykray9583 Nucky tried to help Gideon out as much as he could. What he did was absolutely terrible, but he did feel remorseful and he tried to help get her out of that mental institution. Did he deserve worse? Probably so, but someone who didn't feel bad about it all would have deserved even worse than him
@@ArkansasGamer Tried to help her out how? by selling her to raped at 12 years old…? Just so he could get ahead, it wasn’t even like she was just some random kid, he took her in, his wife looked after her and she trusted him and he betrayed that trust. He was scum. Feeling bad about something doesn’t excuse it.
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They are so happy dancing together, and then they are interrupted. Just like real life. Many touching moments in the finale.
Nucky got a glimpse of El Dorado, the best of what life has to offers... Just before his sins caught him. Loved how symbolic this show was.
Whats el Dorado
@@luisvilla799 The fabled "City of Gold" in South American folklore.
@@willywiggles893 yeah I know that but according to the statement above
@@luisvilla799 El Dorado was the name of the apartment building that Nucky was looking to buy in. It's still around there today. Old money now.
So did i once. God, everyday ... I wish it were me instead
Holy shit this scene is kinda heartbreaking considering all they have been thru together.
After he left that building you know he is getting killed.
This is probably one of my favourite scene in the whole serie. So classy.
This was also the final scene they filmed
;(
Bird person whattup my glip glop!?
@@AllOfTheHallows wash em trucks, don't you touch that sum bitchen boat, the boat is not a toy.
I got em' again!
@@AllOfTheHallows I'm gonna ignore you just like you ignored me only I can't ignore you cuz I need to know where that dam money at!
For Art Deco enthusiast the chandelier at the beginning of the scene and at 3:56 is a piece by Marius Sabino. The sconce at 3:59 most probably by J.E. Ruhlmann. Top class French decoration for the 1930's.
That chandelier is NOT a Sabino. It's a prop replica piece.
It is unquestionably a Sabino chandelier, nobody has ever made a replica of this particular piece/model aside that it will make no sense to replicate this complicated piece just to appear for a few seconds, they could have just used a cheap generic 1920's chandelier. Also, the chandelier could have been added in post production which I doubt it but is Sabino either way. There is currently one for sale in New York, same model, for $40,000 @@dicksteptoe9199
Even tho the last season of this show felt a little rushed the writing quality was always top notch
This is like when you see your ex that you loved so much but things didn’t work out. Y’all have love for each other and possibly want to be back together but know deep down it can’t happen
You said it right
F*** you:(((
🥺
Nah I have zero love or empathy for an ex they left...which means they didn’t have my back which means they’re an enemy if an ex was on fire I’d siphon the nearest gas tank and drink it just to piss gasoline on them
they didnt love each other they were just real
It used to be Margaret being powerless and Nucky being powerful. Now it's reversed.
And they still cared about each other too. Amazing storytelling
@@MichaelEmmanuelArriagabefore or after she was screwing the Irish guard ?
@@Oakland510 I mean they both cheated on each other in season 3 but by season 5 they were iight lol
@@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga he was paying the bills gave her a better life saved her from a physically abusive husband. He has the right to sleep outside, what right did she have ? She owed everything to him he even took care of her kids that weren’t his.
@@Oakland510 Okay...? 😅 Whatever makes you happy I guess
1:44-2:03 Nucky's entire character is described in just a few sentences.
A built-in home radio system must had been a posh option back in 1931.
It was more common than you think in the 30s and 40s. Not as expensive either.
@@jamesgentry13 Radios alone aren't uncommon. In fact, ownership of standalone radio units was picking up by then. What's not common is a radio system entirely integrated within an upscale apartment, especially on the middle of the Great Depression.
She looks incredible!
So I guess Margaret was the only one who made it out alive and in good health out of the AC group
Don't forget Eli "9 lives" Thompson ^^
^ True I forgot about him
Not really in the orginal script she dies from syphilis... They cut it out the TV version but will release the full ending in their anniversary edition.
what?!! Syphilis?
Why?! xD
@@zabacinjsh well think about it. Nucky definitely was not faithful in their relationship and neither was she.
I loved Margaret's character. Loved it. She was the classiest woman on this show. She brought me to tears in this scene. She was wonderful. I'll never forget this show. The best show ever.
LONG LIVE THE BWE!!!!
U loved her?lol u either didnt watch or didnt pay attention shittttiiiiiiiiiest character on the show
She was a manipulative terrible person. She lied on her boyfriend in Ireland claiming rape, abandoned her brother 2 raise a bunch of siblings by himself. Cheated on nucky before he was a cheat, conned him and sold his property, then tried to abandon him without saying a word with Owen. After things didn't work out, she only came back to ask for money
@@2ibesmanicanbe exactly
@@ppap9818 and Am I not merciful!
Made my day. I thought I was the only Person recognizing this. She always looked like "oh, I'm so unguilty". To cheat, have "fun" and being manipulative is more logical then raise your kids first? Incredibly selfish, specially for the 1920's.
Definatly not a Carmela Soprano, she was just an outsider.
i bet 30k was a boatload of money back in those days..
The average hourly wage in 1939 was $.30 and the average income for a household in 1939 was $1,368. Almost a hundred years ago, in 1939, a car cost around $750 and a house about $4,000. You could drive to the store for $.10 a gallon, purchase bread for $.09 a loaf, and buy milk for $.23 per gallon
My rule of thumb while watching the show is just to add a zero. $10 in 1921 is roughly $100 nowadays (actually a bit more)
Thats nearly 600k today, and we all have the federal reserve and the federal government for debasing the dollar
Margaret's character probably changed the most in the series. If you see her first scene...and her last scene. You see the character made some tough decisions.
I still hate her. She had her shady intentions even if she doesn't admi it
@@jamesgentry13 indeed, she acted like butter would not melt on her mouth.
@@Kauffman578 lol I have to read more books, I've never heard of this expression before and thought you were not making a point at all.
@@willywiggles893 It is a Sopranos reference. It was something that Tony said to Carmela when they were going a hard time in their relationship. Tony said it to Carmela as way to say how she acts so high and mighty and pretends that she doesn't know how he makes his money.
She was incredibly self-righteous.
When he says I’d never put anything living into a box. Her face was like yea right.
Margaret was truly the only character who made it out of BE who you knew was going to be okay. Eli was sort of up in the air - Nucky gave him that big bag of money in their last meeting but it was questionable if June would take him back. Hopefully she did because she and their children were all Eli had left in his world and life. Poor Gillian was left an empty shell....perhaps a little karmic payback but she too was a repeated victim of circumstances. I kind of wonder what happened to Margaret and her children Teddy and Emily after this. We really didn't see Teddy and Emily after Season 2 for various reasons but honestly they really were just minor characters and I think the writers couldn't see any other way of working them into the subsequent seasons and story lines. Presumably Margaret and the kids went on with their lives and perhaps hopefully she finally met a husband who was not an abusive drunk like her 1st husband Hans or a cheating criminal like Nucky, although in comparison Nucky was a much better husband compared to Hans. He truly loved Margaret but just couldn't help his criminal and dark tendencies.
I honestly wanted to see Marga lose go broke and love in poverty for being such a gold digging back stabbin snake.. and Gillian to die. Nucky should have lived. He's the only one that tried to make right. Even Margaret didn't try to make things right she capitalized on what she stole
Yeah, Gillian had a tough life. But she still killed an innocent person. I do feel bad for her, but you should never commit an evil act in the name of "the greater good"
@@ArkansasGamerGillian was never sane. I wouldn’t blame an insane person for murder, their brain is off. Nucky is the one to blame by pimping her off at 13 years old to be continuously r worded by the old commodore.
Penso che questa scena sia il riassunto della vita di Nucky. Nel momento in cui balla e chiude gli occhi è come se stesse finalmente abbandonando il mondo sporco degli inganni in cui vive per entrare in quello sereno dell'amore con Margaret. Ma nel momento stesso in cui li chiude si accendono le luci, si sveglia e tutto torna alla "normalità" ricordandogli così che non può fuggire da quella sporca vita
i want to cry
Always gonna be my OTP of this fantastic show
Margaret betrayed nucky the most. Nuckey wouldn't have had to go underground and get in worse shit if she didn't steal the land money for the new road. That was Nuckys retirement once he got out of politics. Thst was supposed to provide for the kids and Margaret
If you want the rainbow is playing in the background.
The final season gets a lot of flack for how rushed it felt but that was due to the studio execs only giving them 8 episodes to finish the story. Considering what they were given I think they did a great job of tying up as many loose ends as possible while maintaining high writing standards. This scene is one of many great scenes in Season 5
I’m sorry that you never got to see this tootsie
This was the best series ever. Bar none.
A Mob Boss and a Disney Princess
im still on season 1, i got so curious that i started reading the wikifan page. i was really confused with her character development throughout since i'm somewhat hopeful for her and her relationship with nucky. i love how they build up their pairing but when i knew all that betrayal and stuff happened, i stopped watching it.
The whole show was betrayal and stuff. Without it, there wouldn't have been a show to turn away from.
How come we never got to see the kids who are supposed to be teenagers like Tommy Darmody in 1931. We would have love to see them being fleshed out more on what their doing right now like Tony Soprano's kids and Don Draper's kids which include Sally getting some more screentime often.
You did...tommy shoots nucky in the face right aftet this
That's what like $25 mil in 2021?
More like 50 to 75 million.
Margaret is perhaps the most polarizing character on the show. I myself liked her and find many others who did as well, while others vehemently couldnt stand her and call her the worst character on the show. In a show about gangsters, i think her actions werent any worse than the gangster she was involved with.
Personally, she is a well made and well played character all around. But there was a sort of dissonance between her words and actions. If we note that she calls out criminals on their actions while benefitting from and often capitalizing her gains from said actions, being willfully blind to how they affect others in the same or arguably worse than those criminals she condemns, well... Self-righteous to a fault to say the least.
Real life nucky died in old age his brother too. They should of just had him died old age smh
Margaret was a nice woman but she betrayed too many people. Her family plus nucky damn. She’s a good mother and her ex husband was a pos. All in all good show and she was a good actress.
Sure she Was Skyler Of This Show But I Love Her Accent And Decent Cool Personality Specialy s2 And S3
Why did she betray her family again?
@@abdishakourshakti7364 Oh my old user Acount
Nucky was too Nice for Her but I Like S2 And S3 When She Was With Owen Sure They Share a Lot Chemistery More Than Nucky And Margeret In Whole Show
Man Still I love her and Owen together
In my opinion Margarets story should've ended at season 3 with her and owen going back to ireland she served no purpose from then onwards
@@jamesgentry13 why owen?
That would have been lame. Owens death is what led to the whole climax of season 3
I wish she and Owen would be together some where behind the scenes, i Totally stopped watching this show in S3 episode 10 after the Death of Owen Slater
Does anyone know the song that plays here?
Margaret was back stabbing, self serving, groveling when she needed money from nucky and the queen of double standards. Her lack of ownership and nagging make her even more unbearable. Nucky should have got rid of that charity case long ago.
Jesus, very judgy of Margaret’s character for someone whose transgressions are far more relatable than someone like Nucky.
@@opaljk4835 I wonder why.
She cheated on him too
The complex nature of human. Not one person was a decent person. Thats the beauty of the show. We are all self serving greedy liars of some degree.
cool
Were they ever officially divorced? Isnt that entire estate Margarets then?
Go back to your #metoo party, what a troll....
If you knew anything...youd know they were NEVER married.
Not even hinted at, at all in the show...so idk why that question even bubbles up.
Clues:
1. Her name remains Ms Schroeder throughout.
2. The kids call Nucky, "Uncle"...
In Americana, in the days, this is what a women woukd call a suitor, who is fit to be married, but isn't yet!
3. The arrangement they make in season 1, where it's said that he won't marry her...
If the above is a joke, then it's worse than being an obligatory response....
@@gentlemanfarmer6042 Ahem, they do to ALSO get married you false fan. She marries Nucky so she wont have to testify against him.
But Sir, please you should feel proud of that EPIC #mansplain. *slow clap*
@@FranSanTeeth90 Your right, a sham marriage is a Marriage too...
Eyes rolling, lmao.
False fan, I don't think so toots, like I said and I'll say it again you don't know anything.
Season 2, the back half is horrific, Why? Because they changed it so vehemently.
Jimmy was not supposed to be part of the coup, but Michale Pitt was such a fricken drag on evryone that they had to let him go and right him off the show.
Season 2, was supposed to strictly be about the Commodore and Nucky. And it was in the beginning, with Jimmy being egged on.
The whole Jimmy I'm power, and the fruits of it are stupid....hes a soldier, hence his talent at killing people.
The whole latter half of the story line in season 2 is fucked up because of this, on the spot writing and changing constantly.
Season 3, and season 4 are the high water marks of the show,...season 5, also shit, but thay has more to do with HBO cutting them off and forcing a shorter season for the finale.
The marriage is so inconsequential and not important, I forgot about it to be honest....because it's a joke, lol
A quick the up, to the shakiest season they've ever done.
And it's not all of season 2 ether, because the first 6 episodes are amazing and a continuation if the magnificent 1st season.
@@FranSanTeeth90 There is no "Marriage Scene" is there??
That's why it escapes me..
Just like there is no scene of Owen dying...he just shows up dead.
@@gentlemanfarmer6042 There is a marriage scene. Check the episode I cited. It also explains how Margaret gave the Catholic church that valuable land that belonged to Nucky. It was brief and private especially for Nucky.
I hated her character. She always pretended to be better than other people and was just as terrible as the people around her. Opportunistic and ungrateful. Plus, the entire situation was completely unrealistic. I kept thinking to myself watching this show, "Is she the only woman in town?!" As so many men tripped over themselves to be around her or were enamored by her. Who was writing this crap?! She was argumentative and manipulative, and also had children already. History would have supported the notion that most men during this period in time would have avoided her at all cost. Especially a guy with money and power like Nucky.
This!!! Precisely!!!
Like her better trying to call a coin toss.
THE B.W.E!!!!
Margaret was pretty unbearable. And by far the worse person on the show who doesn't kill people!
I wish they could have lived happily(ish) ever after
Nucky didn’t deserve to
@@jimmykray9583 karma caught up to him in the end
@@ArkansasGamer deserved to suffer more though.
@@jimmykray9583 Nucky tried to help Gideon out as much as he could. What he did was absolutely terrible, but he did feel remorseful and he tried to help get her out of that mental institution. Did he deserve worse? Probably so, but someone who didn't feel bad about it all would have deserved even worse than him
@@ArkansasGamer Tried to help her out how? by selling her to raped at 12 years old…? Just so he could get ahead, it wasn’t even like she was just some random kid, he took her in, his wife looked after her and she trusted him and he betrayed that trust. He was scum. Feeling bad about something doesn’t excuse it.