Solly Msimanga gives us a behind the scenes look into the ANC and Gauteng Province Scandals
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Biggest mistake was to trust the ANC.
Panyaza and the ANC have shown themselves up in the clear light of day....
Only the chairs at the table Has been Shuffled, the Criminal State will just carry on Regardless and THE DA Alliance got NOTHING, Niks, Zicolo, Ziltch-the whole ANC crime Syndicate will just carry on As 'USUAL!!!! Ramaphosa can't think positively, Trapped in Greed and Uselessness-Worse than Biden! Don't blame Ramaphosa, blame the USELESS 'DA Alliance' because their Negotiation 'Skills' are FAR Worse than their Useless, Comical ability to Canvas Votes!!! Ramaphosa caught the Luni 'Opposition' with a lame Con Job by simply Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic!!!!
Yes!!!!
Thank you Mike,I understand this better. ANC is definitely behaving as if they won elections. Solly is clear and coherent
The ANC are trying to get the best deal they can. They have all the leverage because DA can’t deal with EFF & MK. So they’ll take what they’re given.
He's undermining the people of GP. He's the sellout, putting the party before the people. The ANC is being greedy.
Anc can stand it that they lost sir and anc bullshit Al of as the people 😮😮😮
@@LonelyTreeSunseta gree cader
Da can change gp😮 anc know it😮
Thanks Solly for clarity, now we know what needs to be done come municipality election
Thank you Mike. I needed to hear the side of the DA. And believe Solly and expected the proportionality clause to bleed into the provincial structures. It's shocking. Smacks of a lack of honour.
Thank you, this was the intention of having this interview and we will stay on this issue because it is of national importance.
Quite right Solly 👏 well said
Well done DA! We can now blame the ANC for all their on going failures and corruption!
The Province is on it's knees! Hospitals, schools, roads, transport!
Unemployment!
@GaragePie22 Until DA take care of black dominated areas in Western Cape; they are worst than ANC.
Go and drive at Philip after 19hrs... I hope you come back to tell the tail.
@@YTL-hi5ll hmmm maybe you should think more before you make comments
@YTL-hi5ll you know they don't own the police but the government (30 years Anc)...so that was and is still largely beyond their influence...only thing they can do for now is to improve from inside outwards and hope it positively affects neighborhoods around them
@@YTL-hi5llalso i can almost guarantee you those places don't have many da supporters...so actually you can judge people based on who they support...probably anc/eff/mk zones?am i wrong?
@Logic4all If your running the National/ Province, you take care of everyone not only those who support your party.
Isn't it amazing how well DA interviewees speak and answer questions. And no lying... You go Solly - your day will come, and hopefully sooner than expected.
Panyaza was so rude and aggresive when a black female reporter who interviewed him this morning. Very arrogant and defensive when she pointed out certain issues.
Wel he has to because da can vote him out😮😮
Non confident in anc he know that😮
@@LeschLouw They will impeach or Vote of no confidence. It's a minority GPL , with no powers to pass any legislation,; very importantly the budget. Lesufi really needs DA to share equally, as no one won even 40% and remove all those recycled buddies of yours, who can't perform. Pride and arrogance will not bear any positive fruits and bring DA on board to help you fixed GP. Gauteng is in shambles and on it's knees.
GPL , needs a men and women with skills and capabilities and of course with relevant qualifications to occupy those MECs positions. Lebo Maile, finance and infrastructure development, this is a person who served for the last 5 yrs with very poor performance , no good record. Panyaza, you must be kidding Gauteng people or are you saying the whole of the ANC in GP there's no member with economic or financial qualifications? There are plenty, but are not your buddies.
It's going to be a bumby road in GP. Difficult first 6 months of the GPL , with courts, impeachment,; no budget passed, chaos and uncertainty. Pride and arrogance don't have positive outcomes. It's not about you and r comrades but people of GP. We are tired of incompetency and recycling material.
Fully support this view and stance, DA!! Don't compromise on ethical behavior. This will be ANC' downfall in Gauteng: Water and Sanitation in a mess, infrastructure a complete failure to deliver services and attract investment (City of Cape Town just upgraded by Moody's)😂, townships in a dissaray, businesses liquidating etc. And yet, the ANC' arrogance and cadre deployment prevails!! Well done, DA!!
Thank you Solly for clarifying issues.
What is happening with Panyaza is like a builder who is warned not to start building because the foundation is faultu. The builder responds " Im too much in a hurry to finish the house the foundation can wait". Lesufi is building a house on sand.
@@rendaninemavhidi1554 just like the rush of kzn.
@jessicadunu6335 Well said. DA is acting like their fair and talking the outcome of the votes when it suit them. 45% of KZN voters wanted MKP - if it was about the voters; they should have let MKP lead KZN....
@YTL-hi5ll you must be joking
yep, they supposed to have the agreement before voting for panyaza as premier and the da supposed to get speaker, not deputy
@@YTL-hi5ll Please don't use this strawman argument. An agreement was signed between parties and one of the parties has acted in bad faith. If MK were to make a deal, they could lead KZN but they seem to be too busy firing their own people and disputing the results of the election.
Solly, we are proud of you and the DA. Keep up the good work. We are counting on you to make positive changes in SA.
This is the kind of premier we need strong & firm on sticking to principles and ensuring that there's significant change in the province that we desperately need...
Yes!!! Agree 100%!!!!
It is time for the people of Gauteng to rise and stand for what and who they voted for
Who are those?
This just proves how untrustworthy the ANC is. I knew this for years, why does the DA keep trusting them in negotiations?? Why not get something in writing before helping to get Panyasa elected??
Writing doesn't mean anything either
@@janineroux2398 Statement of Intent was in writing.
Bottom line-the 'DA Allians ' is just too stupid and MONEY (Massive Salaries and Perks) satisfied them. As my grandfather said "Geld maak Krom Ysters Reguit"!
It was all in writing, the anc arrogant and still does as it pleases..
The DA got power in Western cape from a coalition..
@@africanvoice1545 yes, and... The ANC couldn't /didn't /didn't WANT TO read...
BMWs and blue lights but no services 😡
Lol what did you aspect from Lesufi. He always did what he wanted with the schools.
Solly❤
Mr Solly you are spot on and nice to listen to.
Dont give up hope Solly you are a great leadr
Panyaza and Ramaphosa are not believing in the same principle and DA knows
They clearly both believe in the principle in dealing in bad faith and not honouring a signed agreement.
Solly seems like a real champ! Gives me faith in at least some of our politicians
Omw Lesufi twisted that story.
I can hear, we can hear Solly is telling the truth
What a lovely intelligent guy , can hear go getter guy.
Thats heartbreaking Well done DA.
ANC a leopard never changes his spots .
ANC still looking for power instead of bringing DA in and thinking what SA citizens really want.
Solly has given the true story
Hit the nail on the head
DAs coalitions work in Western Cape and KZN successful. .
Allegedly could ANC be trying to set DA up to fail but actually DA better off as opposition to ANC for Provincial Gauteng
Tshwane citizens said please dont take DA out of Tshwane they fixed soooo much robots potholes etc
I think Rhamaphosa using DA but like Solly said their integrity creates more votes than the corrupt ANC in the long run
We are not going to let this story go, I promise you!
Thanks to Mike for this channel. It's always good to hear from the participants about their points of view.
I am glad that you are enjoying the channel. We will keep it coming.
As a gauteng resident .... I can say this is going to be a very long 5 years of instability. .... It also just tells you that although the communists in Zuma and the likes of the Eff are out the ANC the divisions live on.... The tale of the two ANC's continues.... I do believe that even if some success is attained by this GPU the gauteng voterz will punish the ANC for not respecting their wishes..... The DA didnt get the 27% by fluke....the people actually wanted to see them in provincial government..... I think lesufi may have given away the keys to kingdom with this move ...
2026 municipal elections..... vote ANC out
The ANC did not get 34% by fluke either.
Yes it's obvious...they not above 50% anymore...obviously not a fluke
@@yvonnememela918 That is true, but the ANC still needed another 17% from someone else and the 11% of the EFF wasn't enough. So they did the deal with the DA and then shafted them.
And why didn't the DA respect the will of the people in KZN?
Mike, Thank you for the impotant interview. I tbhink go forward and challenge the false leadrers of Gauteng.. All the very best and may rightousness prevail .
I am so happy that you enjoyed the interview. I don't think that Panyaza Lesufi has the courage to do an interview on the State of the Nation despite numerous invitations.
@@mikesham3204what are he afraid of?
Perhaps Panyaza have passed maths at 30 % which is very poor
Great interview, thanks MIke! Solly Msimanga is a huge asset to the DA & they have been royally screwed over by the ANC. Sadly not surprising though. Anyone who thought the ANC would act with honour & integrity was just fooling themselves.
Thank you for your comment, it was an enjoyable interview even though I am saddened by the situation.
What an Exceptional Solly guy ! !
Principles are important - you go DA
The decision the DA made was the right one. ANC has a short-term victory that won’t go too far. The other parties aren’t stupid they won’t trust them either. DA played a long game, they will be in a good position going forward. We are talking about the ANC here people, watch what will happen , this non-existent victory of their will backfire on them.
I think Solly is an honest man. Unlike Maila and Lesufi
Great show as usual. Solly is a good guy. I'd be interested to hear Pauli van Wyks report on the VBS saga and the EFF's involvement.
Leadership is a privilege to better the lives of others. It is not an opportunity to satisfy personal greed.
Or hate.
Mike : How can you say the ANC in Gauteng manages 97 % of the budget?
Don't you know there is a difference between managing and misappropriating ?
Yes, they manage it into their own pockets.
Thank you Solly, for all that you do!!
Everything the ANC fights for to keep to themselves is whats holding this coutry back
watch 0UT politics will never be fair ,its a dirty game for self advancement and enrichment , no RULES
The DA got screwed - They need to find better negotiators for any future SoI. The ANC never had any intention toward proportionality!
Any negotiation can only be done in good faith and you have very little control over the ethics of your counterpart.
@@mikesham3204 The only solution would be to have an intermediary.
But this behaviour let to the downfall of the anc and still they don't learn next time it will even be worse they must stop their arrogants and build this country together that's what south Africans voted for.
The ANC has a history of being untrustworthy you just trust them at your own peril during the struggle people were promise Freedom and Education late did that materials hmmmm.Lastly go and ask Matatiele guys their were once promise to be reincorporated back to KZN to vote with the Anc so it can run a council at Ekurhuleni which the didn't keep that promise after their have given them that municipality
Days of voting for ANC and EFF are over
I think MKP and EFF will be stupid to support ANC in passing budgets in Gauteng after what ANC did to MKP in KZN, bcos of jealous.
Dynamics are different in Gauteng, so EFF and MK will do anything not to support DA who declared them as enemies
@@RichardThwala-c5u But Gauteng is still controlled by Fikile Mbalula who made it clear that he cannot work with both EFF and MKP. ANC is ANC, let them feel the pain they did to MKP is KZN
DA is the common enemy for EFF and MK, they will never support DA motion
@@RichardThwala-c5u I'm an MKP fully support member here in Gauteng and I can tell you that we will not support anything ANC wants in Gauteng till they undo what they did in KZN. Watch the space
money talks.. anc controls 97% of it, and we know how eff love money and zuma loves to giv him friends and family tenders..
Even the EFF is unhappy with the ANC Gauteng cabinet composition. Gauteng needs adults in office, we do not need corrupt cadres, South Africa is tired of paying for millionaire politicians who do not do their jobs. Gauteng is falling apart and we don't need the same ANC who caused it. The politicians forget that the people suffer so that they can be millionaires and we are tired of it. The government needs to wake up and start doing their jobs. We have kids starving in this country, we have kids who cannot read and write, we have students with degrees who cannot get jobs. WE ARE TIRED. We don't have clean water, our electricity is a joke. We are tired of paying millionaires to be politicians while the people suffer!
As a Director of one of the NPOs in our local town that literally take to the streets in an effort to uplift the place in which we live, we would welcome some guidance from leaders such as Solly. What we have achieved with little to no budget is quite substantial in terms of our heart for our hometown and the ability to rally encouragement from our community. We are succeeding in reigniting old school values and neighbourliness in our attempts. But heart plays a great role in our attempts and this is what I see here. We will continue to push back from ground level, clean the streets, beautify the forgotten gardens and promote community from our small part of Gauteng until change starts happening in the metros. Beyond that we will work together with our local metros to not just bring our town back to some order or normal functioning, but go beyond that and make it great. I commend you for fighting the good fight and am really in awe of your straightforward and principled manner, that exudes no arrogance, just authenticity and a display of what is just.
Lesufi cannot be trusted. Telling the world that DA asked for 3 positions and was offered 3 positions but then tell the world DA turned around and wanted more. Truth is that DA said 3 positions and 2-3 positions to other parties. Telling a half truth is as good as lying.
That is exactly right!
DA are the future
Structural weakness : To allow a political party member to appoint ministers on a national level and MEC's on a provincial level.
Yes!!!!
SOLLY I STAND BEHIND YOU DON'T WORRY EVERY DOG GET HIS DAY
Thank you for providing the other side of the story.
Good man, Solly, may God be with you🙏🏼
If the president does not involve him in this, fairness. This will bite him hard. Jhb has to be fixed.
I completely agree with you.
Motion of no confidence
DA doesn't have numbers to pass that motion 😂
@@RichardThwala-c5uSo the ANC have 34% of the vote. If a motion of no-confidence is put forward, who can Lesufi bank on to vote with him? He needs 41 votes and has 28 from the ANC. He can probably count on the PA 2 seats and Rise 1. That gives Lesufi 314 out of 80. Are you suggesting that the EFF (11) and MK (8) will vote to keep him in power or will they prefer to deal a blow to the "ANC of Cyril Ramaphosa?
Im praying my family listen to me Lets get OUT of GAUTENG 🧐🧐🧐
Great interview!! Thanks Mike 🎉🎉
Thank you for your comment, we will keep them coming. I am not going to let this Gauteng issue go.
Your a good man Solly...
Let's go DA, let's go, all the way!!
Solly You are amazing
Live Debate between Solly and Panyaza on face the nation
No ANC member ever does debates.
I don't think Lesufi is capable of leading the largest economy province that has still unresolved challenges since 1994 to date, and in Setswana we call him " Ntwa dumela", in English means "he who greets with fire". He is always aggressive, ready to fight others.
A president in the making..viva DA ...
Panyaza won't come to a DA leaning podcast
Do you think that he is too scared?
Proud of you DA❤
But media should bring Panyaza and Solly together, in one studio and be asked those questions, especially the part of sharing of posts including or excluding other political parties.
Many lessons to be learnt out of this coalition/GNU environment including:
1. allowing more time for negotiations at national and provincial levels, in terms of a Constitutional amendment (in line with best practice globally); and
2. that the concept of proportionality actually needs to include a formula in the agreement for how it is calculated.
Not sure how proportionality can work if in law then it may have meant that the GNU will have ANC + DA + EFF + MK all being forced to be in government together? Coalitions are formed by parties willingly coming together in good faith and based on give and take. The ANC is in denial that they actually lost and therefore they act as if they are in charge.
Well done and keep it up Thank You
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It's rich for politicians to stand on principle when they don't get their way during negotiations and willing to renage or roll over on previous principle positions when they have been allocated ministerial positions e.g size of cabinet.
@@zwakelemthalane6712 all this brought the dishonesty of ANC on full national dislay. Now people can see that easily. If not, they choose to be blind. Then they should suffer more to evntually see wth their own eyes and hear with their own ears the dishonesty and backstabbing. So no, the DA did not lost, they are exposing the dishonesty of ANC by taking the higher ground. Prove me wrong.
Hi @@ednafourie7509 , the meer fact that many opposition parties changed tact in exchange for positions proves you wrong to a degree, they're all deceptive. My point is let's stick to our principles regardless of the carrots dangled in front of us, BOSA and ActionSA seem to somewhat be holding on to this so far. I had expected the DA to resign as ministers in protest of the cabinet of patronage if not then at least refuse to move into the ministerial mansions per their publication of 27 Feb 2023 issued by Leon Schreiber himself. My frustration comes from a place of disappointment as it seemed easy to trade principles for cabinet positions, principles that were the basis of our decisions on 29 May.
@@ednafourie7509 my disappointment stems from principled stances take pre elections seemingly being pack up in suitcases as people are ushered into mansions that they previously claimed were excessive and unjustifiable. These are some of the principles we based our votes on. Take the DA for example, Schreiber himself issued a statement about the excesses of cabinet on 27 Feb 2023, where is he today? Don't get me started on the U-turn that some parties of the Moonshot Pact did on the slightest possibility that they could occupy government posts. If your principles are not absolute then by definition you have a price.
Very hypocritical 😂
Thanks!
Solly is a great guy. Thank you Solly for sticking to your principals😊
I support you 100% Mr Solly Msimanga!!
Panyaza has shown on national tv what DA document says...3 to da 7 to Anc and other parties..in gnu...and premier Anc....now what happened Anc has premier took 7 and gv 3 to other parties...so who was the crook here...😏
Pity that the full story is not being revealed and that the public are being duped by proportional information.
Clearly you chose not to listen to the interview or read the "leaked" documents. The agreed document was that the DA would have 3 key portfolios, and from the other 7, 3 would go to other parties, leaving the ANC with 4 portfolios and the Premier. This was agreed and then reneged on.
Solly very good 👍
Anc outsmarted the DA in all respects. From Speaker to President and Premier 😂❤
There is a difference between outsmarting someone and deceiving someone!
Lesufi disrespects the National ANC leaders and their agreement with the DA and other parties.
The ANC will have to discipline Lesufi by recalling him from the position of premier.
The ANC must replace Lesufi with another premier that abides by the policies of his party.
Which policy of the party are you referring to? Can you share that policy if possible
The ANC will have to do something. If I was in MK or EFF, I would table a motion of no confidence in Gauteng on Monday. This will force the ANC to do something very quickly or they would lose our nationally and provincially.
"You were stupid to vote him in as premier" 😂😂 l think most people are thinking just that. The ANC, as always, move the goal posts so if is not a surprise that they did this. Let see what happens.
I truly think that the ANC have extracted a very short term win out of this which will cost them dearly in any future dealings with any other party.
@@mikesham3204 I agree with you. They (plus all those that went with the ANC) only have 32 seats in the Gauteng legislature out of 80. All the other parties can stop them implementing any legislation or anything else. They are sitting ducks. That is why they say "the door is open for negotiations". The winner in the end is the DA and all the other parties, who together have 48 seat. The DA had nearly 1/2 of that. They thought they were clever, but objectively, they cannot do anything unless the parties in the opposition agree. Sometimes greed hits you back later. Only the future can prove who is honest and gets things done.
Very silly self-defeating politics from ANC. Of all the parties to alienate they chose the DA whom they know is a stable and dependable partner ...
The ANC is greedy.
Watch from 19:30 to 19:45.
(Hilarious)
What happened in KZN was worse. 45% of the voters voted for a party to govern their province but the province is governed by a 17% party leader.
Zuma did this to IFP in 2004 elections. Therefore, you MK blind followers don't cry.
@@therealbongamkhize Don't forget it's 45% party that decided not object to the election results and not turn up for agreed upon coalition talks with the IFP on two occasions.
Obayeke bafo ngoba yibo abanamavoti amaningi,it's fine abenze ngendlela yabo,kodwa onenqondo uyayibona kodwa iylima zizomana zisitshela ngokuthi mkp yayilibele amacala,
55% of KZN vote was against MK. One can always do your own combinations of your favourite parties which is not the same for each of us, but at the end of the day stable government normally needs 50%+1 parties working together and being able to depend on each other. The issue is not about who is the biggest party while still having less than 50%+1 but who can agree to work together despite differences. MK sabotaged themselves when IFP was willing to listen to them to give them 50% + 1, and MK didn't pitch but now gives us excuses of wrong arrangements by IFP. Even if MK was governing KZN with 45%, each time they will need to go to parties to support them with votes for budgets etc. DA is not complaining in Gauteng about ANC managing to get other people to join them to form the 50+ 1% but the breaking their gentlemen's agreement.
@@astra6098 55% voted with the knowledge that the party they are voting for will not go into marriage with the parties they actually went into marriage with. ANC voters hate DA and IFP because of the history of these parties. But they are forced into this rubbish coalition.
Effectie Programmes that speak to the challenges facing GP ,;must be in place , Solly ,:ur so correct. Ethical leadership and diligence. Politics of the stomach. Iam an ANC supporter and residing in GP, i agree this is a mess with such a strong oppositions. Panyaza will have to restart the negotiation process, because what happened last night is poor leadership and still wanting to continue with the looting and the incompetencies, saving their skins and not wanting to take responsibility for poor performance. The door is still open for redress. Chaos and more vote of no cobfidence and impeachment. This must be corrected otherwise ANC in GP will loose everything, local and national elections.v
I agree with you. Being so duplicitous will cost the ANC dearly in the future.
Solly youre doing well! But who is lying, ANC or DA? We know the ANC cannot be trusted, but explain to SA what exactly happened that you guys accuse each other being LIARS!😢
Lefu showed what DA was proposing on national tv...Solly not lying
@@MaudDavids-z2n The agreement is in the public domain and I have seen it. Lesufi is lying.
Lesufi did not show us what was written and signed on that piece of paper. Looks like con artistry and that paper may even be blank.
Dear Mr Solly, What is happening with Ekurhuleni impacting ? the overall Government policies ?, it is the tip of the iceberg on the Incredible state of affairs in the Ekurhuleni Municipality, whereby things are so entangled that even the Government themselves will find it hard work to untangle, the members refuse to let go of their seats, rather using the classical 'racecard' , DA 'appartheid' card, and this points to the hard, hard, job to recreate the Ekurhuleni Council Culture, Germiston ? My experience isn't the best, although we also found real 'Angels' there.. We appreciate you, Mr. Solly ! To straighten Gauteng-Ekurhuleni is a massive task, and it began even before the Local Government was established ?
There's no such thing as principles in the ANC vocab, it's a foreign concept to them..
Fair would have been ANC 5 DA 4 and 1 ea to the next two parties. But they didn't want the DA because cosy with EFF
With 3 slots given to "smaller" parties, now only 7 slots plus premier available. This can't work??
It can until there is a vote of no confidence. If I were to advise the EFF and MK, I would raise a motion of no confidence immediately on Monday. This will either end the GNU or bring the ANC back to the negotiating table.
Mike trying to trip up Solly but failing miserably!!!
DA should never have joined ANC in GNU, like going to bed with a rattlesnake. They should pull out.
Cursed are those who trust in mortal men and in their own strength and cleverness
Blessed are those who trust in the LORD God, His strength and His wisdom
Teach this useles premiere a lesson of hes life....DA.. please put a motion of no confedinse in this useles mister ASAP...ASAP...ASAP
Love the challenge at the end. Panyaza, are you feeling bold?
Panyaza is a coward. He will never come onto this show.
Something is brewing behind the scenes. Dont see how Mk and EFF are sitting back taking this new GNU.
I like the callout at the end 🤣
I doubt if Panyaza has the balls to come onto the show.
Who shafted who 😂😂?
I have seen the documentation and quite clearly Panyaza Lesufi, just as Cyril did in the cabinet selection, chose not to honour the agreement that they had signed.
Anc is keeping on shooting it's self on the foot 2026 is around the corner they are going to cry again
Is the document that Mr Lesufi is referring to liers?
Question - how could non corrupt, ethical mps ask the corrupt,mafia ANC to follow guidelines that is all inclusive,non criminal,non racist understanding to better the citizens and grow SA the same country the ANC has destroyed
Call that gentleman who ones beaten Solly, to come explain why he did that to him
Uzenzile akakhalelwa
Let Panyaza and Solly come and face people of Gauteng, hearing from one side has never been fair. But its not about applying the National process , it's about voters and the needs of the GP, not about an individual and hi greediness. 4-3 and one each smaller parties. But Panyaza said 5- 4-1. That's why we request a debate between these two men.
Panyaza will never debate. There were countless invitations for debates before the election and he turned down every one. No ANC leader ever debates anyone.
28% to DA is a third of people in Gauteng… People want DA whether you like it or not and they deserve to govern in Gauteng.
IDA angiyikhaleli awukwazi ukuthi abantu amasela then kube wuwe ufuna ukosebenzisana nalabobantu,
Ngivumelana nawe