I'm no game designer or coder, so please, someone explain how this bug is even possible? Subscribe to our Second Channel, which includes Variety, Full Vods and other Extras: www.youtube.com/@SpearShotExtra ↓↓↓ Spoiler ↓↓↓ Spear has finally concluded his Unranked to Challenger Jungle only, which has fortified his belief that Jungle is the easiest role in the game, on par with or just barely harder than support.
online games have two series of events, whats happening on the players end and whats happening on the server end(which comes from data being sent from all the players), in very simple terms if something happens on the players end(because of limited information, skewed perspective, network delay, etc) that in the eyes of the server shouldnt happen(pantheon and riven hitboxes intersecting) then the server will forcibly undo/change it(reverting pantheons position to an earlier state)
I think the movement thing was newly introduced in 14.23 that patch has made it so that anytime i get a boost in movement speed and there are champs on the way im pathing it flashes. Seen it a lot of ryze everytime i proc PR
Tbf that fight pretty much won toplane for the side that won. And rhe fact they would have won if that q hit would be very titlting haha. I think if it hits spear loses the game.
@@vanjamenadzer I mean he can? But there is a reason high elo games dont last very long, once you snowball there is very little the enemy team can do if you do not make mistakes yourself. If they lose that fight aatrox is baiscally out of the game hense why aatrox literally wrote to him that he saved his lane. Wave was pushing away from aatrox and he had no tp no flash. If they lose the fight there aatrox cant play the game and riven snowballs toplane and probably the game.
i noticed the minions hitbox seems a bit bigger now, as jax i sometime get stuck trying to walk past a smal group of minions, u think they made some changes to the hitbox which allowes for this bug? or is more movement related (going lower ground to higher ground?
As a evelynn jgl otp myself, i truly got burnt out and bored from her within a year, switched to gangplank top and, even after surpassing eve in mastery, i still enjoy gp more
I really missed the part where Detdert went from being a mental asylum escapee on an inting spree, trash talking every streamer he would find, both in game and on a dollar store mic, to someone who's actually willing to interact and have fun with them instead. Good on him if he actually grew up.
i mainly swapped from top to jgl bc the experience of getting dove every 2 minutes is just so much worse than having ur camps taken and maybe get killed a few times, whilst also being WAAAY fewer games even in diamond+ than having to lane 1v3. u dont care about matchups, most important thing is enemy mid so u know if u rather pick a farming or ganking jgl, but else u just play sth that can do both fine, like sejuani, vi, pantheon etc. ur never facing a darius or renekton. or a caitlyn+zyra botlane. 98% of toxicity u can mute. laners stealing camps is so much rarer than jglers stealing ur cs. and even then unless u have someone mega tilted who is following u around, u can just take other camps or gank. by queueing jgl im making sure i can have a good time even when im losing. if u queue lane, u often dont have fun while winning, if ur weaksided and go 1/5 but ur team has winning bot and drake soul. the lows in lane are just so much lower. also as spear said, gettign autofilled is terrible if u dont know the role. by maining jgl im making sure the worst autofill possible, which is also the most common one, never happens. even if im slightly worse than other main jglers, i get free wins vs autofills.
This bug happens with the pathfinding. I think it happens when your hitbox rubs up on an entity and you don't get to walk straight. Try walking through a minion wave laterally. If you get caught on a minion dont right click again, and the minion will walk you towards lane. The game realizes somethings wrong since it already calculated your path and for some reason you're not on that path and then teleports you to the path. The eldritch spaghetti monster comes!
So this issue has been TERRIBLE with minions for a while. It's something about collision detection and client being offered a ton of leeway when interpreting where the player character is. If u used to walk next to a minion wave marching to lane (say on the left side) and tried to walk through the wave to the right side, there is a small chance that collision detection on the client would not allow you to walk through the minion wave, so you were awkwardly wiggling around for a bit while on the server, collision detection would allow you to walk through. The result is that after a couple of seconds, you'd teleport for 5-6 teemos. Pretty incredible to see. I've never seen it with champs though.
5:25 , 12:08 ,15:02 , 27:33 , 33:45 , 36:02 soundtracks from these timestamps would be appreciated! since editor is slacking of and doesn't have the decency to share info.
27:33 is Yuzuriha's theme from Under Night In-Birth 33:45 is Hyde's theme from the same game 36:02 is Byakuya's theme, also the same game not sure about the earlier ones
Technicaly Vi "Q" hit you but the damage is not went through. And the animation of her "Q" pushed you sideway that why i think it looked like you flashed.
Question, i saw during the game that Thresh didn't give a fuck about souls, like, first time was when doing the dragon, he had the sould below and didn't take em, but maybe there were people near or something and he didn't want to risk it, but then, when doing the grubs, he also didn't grab like 5 souls and he was right next to them, is this normal with high elo thresh's? Only reason i might see is that he doesn't expect the game to last as long so he just doesn't stack souls?
yeah its boring but i mean people who queue it up dont fking care about that shit, jungle has so manny broken and easy champs compared to lanes and they have so much more control over the game they only care about winning or loosing they do not care how, i swear in jngl you can run around like a headless chicken to walk behind someone and if it doesnt work you just go farm another camp and do it again and that alone and doing nothing else will get you to master if you arent an ape, the only time they get punished for bad play is when they miss smites on game winning objectives and thats literaly the only time jng needs skill
The difficulty of jungle comes from decision making, and a challenger player who plays pantheon top (a solid roam option) will definitely be solid in the jungle especially if their one-trick for years is viable there. Theres always at least 3 different plays you can make at any time and most of the time only one of them is a good one, and thats where I say jungle is difficult. When you look at toplane, if you're not playing some solid roamer like Quinn, Pantheon, ect. The only plays you have to make are wave management-based (and of course 1v1s, but even junglers get into skirmishes so...) and while YES I do agree that wave management is a skill that takes time to learn, it acts like a formula when you know how to manage your wave you can do the same shit every game and succeed. Look at Alois as an example and you'll see what I mean. Meanwhile in the jungle the decisions and plays you have to make vary game by game, and its almost never "formula-like." If enemy jg ganks bot you can chose to invade raptors, gank mid/top, clear your own camps, take an objective, ect ect. There's just way more decision making then, "oh waves solid I'll freeze for the 8th time in a row" Now, its true that if the enemy jungler is bad and you have no pressure put on top of you then yeah, jungle will feel easy. Just like if the enemy top laner feeds you, top lane will feel like the easiest role. This isn't an exclusive thing to jungle, and to be frank, the real reason that "jungler players are shit" is that you're a challenger player who knows what he's doing on a champion he's played for years. Once you understood the basics of the role your better micro, macro, and champion mastery washed all of these masters and diamonds out. Just how I see it
I'm no game designer or coder, so please, someone explain how this bug is even possible?
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How is this comment 6 hours old but the vid 10 min?
@@haylongwang3002 If you schedule your videos to upload at a specific time you can add comments to them before they go public
Welcome to the Present buddy. Next stop is the future :D
LOL you got outfarmed by a jungle as a top laner learn to cs nub :P
online games have two series of events, whats happening on the players end and whats happening on the server end(which comes from data being sent from all the players), in very simple terms if something happens on the players end(because of limited information, skewed perspective, network delay, etc) that in the eyes of the server shouldnt happen(pantheon and riven hitboxes intersecting) then the server will forcibly undo/change it(reverting pantheons position to an earlier state)
"You don't get the mechanics of the game cause you play against the raptors"
-SpearShot (died to Raptors)
BUUUT SPEAAAA
As always Pantheon's E bug, i love spaghetti code
Yep, I dont watch spear regurally but everytime he uploads a "bug" video it has something to do with the goddamn E hahaha
Honestly it's because of the movement speed gain on any skill, use it on any champ that provides a burst of movement speed and it works.
The gaslighting is insane.
Spear is so good he use a mechanics not even Faker knows it exist
"itsa feeetuah!!!"
If jungle is chess my junglers are WunWun
Its gotta be something like rollback netcode right? Like in fighting games? Mixed with some heinous collision coding?
if it was a rollback then spear would have teleported on derts screen but not his own which is the opposite of what happened here
Master at rage baiting holy shit man
I think the movement thing was newly introduced in 14.23 that patch has made it so that anytime i get a boost in movement speed and there are champs on the way im pathing it flashes. Seen it a lot of ryze everytime i proc PR
Can you replicate it in PT and post it?
THat terrain difference with VI Q is insane
BUTSPEA
Can we have a moment to appreciate everything thresh did at 9:25? I wish i had supports playing like that
Poor guy got gapped. Mental was probably fucked after that bug.
Tbf that fight pretty much won toplane for the side that won.
And rhe fact they would have won if that q hit would be very titlting haha.
I think if it hits spear loses the game.
@@FantasticKruH cope
@@FantasticKruH You think he couldn't come back after dying once at lvl 4?
@@vanjamenadzer I mean he can? But there is a reason high elo games dont last very long, once you snowball there is very little the enemy team can do if you do not make mistakes yourself.
If they lose that fight aatrox is baiscally out of the game hense why aatrox literally wrote to him that he saved his lane.
Wave was pushing away from aatrox and he had no tp no flash.
If they lose the fight there aatrox cant play the game and riven snowballs toplane and probably the game.
26:23 @MrPucciLucci Is a true man of culture based on the background music 🔥
Wheres it from
@@danzplaya nikke
captain spear
29:44 when that soundtrack hits, yknow you bouta get some fire gameplay.
23:27 we can just guess was this a first time a man has been inside of our man Spear
The gaslighting is crazy 😂😂
That Thresh was a fucking God!
Pucci editing like he's just discovered the under night soundtrack. godlike editing though
i noticed the minions hitbox seems a bit bigger now, as jax i sometime get stuck trying to walk past a smal group of minions, u think they made some changes to the hitbox which allowes for this bug? or is more movement related (going lower ground to higher ground?
Ok but besides that flash q in the beginning which we all make mistakes, that thresh went crazy that game
As a evelynn jgl otp myself, i truly got burnt out and bored from her within a year, switched to gangplank top and, even after surpassing eve in mastery, i still enjoy gp more
I really missed the part where Detdert went from being a mental asylum escapee on an inting spree, trash talking every streamer he would find, both in game and on a dollar store mic, to someone who's actually willing to interact and have fun with them instead. Good on him if he actually grew up.
No one talking about how thresh is the GOAT man.
Detdert is a movie
JUNGLE HARD!
i mainly swapped from top to jgl bc the experience of getting dove every 2 minutes is just so much worse than having ur camps taken and maybe get killed a few times, whilst also being WAAAY fewer games even in diamond+ than having to lane 1v3.
u dont care about matchups, most important thing is enemy mid so u know if u rather pick a farming or ganking jgl, but else u just play sth that can do both fine, like sejuani, vi, pantheon etc.
ur never facing a darius or renekton. or a caitlyn+zyra botlane.
98% of toxicity u can mute. laners stealing camps is so much rarer than jglers stealing ur cs. and even then unless u have someone mega tilted who is following u around, u can just take other camps or gank.
by queueing jgl im making sure i can have a good time even when im losing.
if u queue lane, u often dont have fun while winning, if ur weaksided and go 1/5 but ur team has winning bot and drake soul.
the lows in lane are just so much lower. also as spear said, gettign autofilled is terrible if u dont know the role. by maining jgl im making sure the worst autofill possible, which is also the most common one, never happens. even if im slightly worse than other main jglers, i get free wins vs autofills.
that thresh was making some god tier plays
Need the whole playlist of background music!!!
Anyone know the song at 12:04?
Spear and Pucci are an unstoppable force
This bug happens with the pathfinding. I think it happens when your hitbox rubs up on an entity and you don't get to walk straight. Try walking through a minion wave laterally. If you get caught on a minion dont right click again, and the minion will walk you towards lane. The game realizes somethings wrong since it already calculated your path and for some reason you're not on that path and then teleports you to the path. The eldritch spaghetti monster comes!
Ill go test it rq
THX for the content
35:50 the old baus experience. Hehe
So this issue has been TERRIBLE with minions for a while. It's something about collision detection and client being offered a ton of leeway when interpreting where the player character is. If u used to walk next to a minion wave marching to lane (say on the left side) and tried to walk through the wave to the right side, there is a small chance that collision detection on the client would not allow you to walk through the minion wave, so you were awkwardly wiggling around for a bit while on the server, collision detection would allow you to walk through. The result is that after a couple of seconds, you'd teleport for 5-6 teemos. Pretty incredible to see. I've never seen it with champs though.
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SPEARSHOT SIR THIS SONGS ARE FUCKING LOUD SIRR!!!!!!
mad respect on getting challenger in jungle even tho it's the easiest role in the game
I became a pant main because of you spear, great work bro :)
5:25 , 12:08 ,15:02 , 27:33 , 33:45 , 36:02
soundtracks from these timestamps would be appreciated!
since editor is slacking of and doesn't have the decency to share info.
trueeee we need the deets on the songs
27:33 is Yuzuriha's theme from Under Night In-Birth
33:45 is Hyde's theme from the same game
36:02 is Byakuya's theme, also the same game
not sure about the earlier ones
Omg yes. I would so love to know the sounds from different sections of videos often and they really don't give a damn :D
@hemlockk_ much obliged!
i tough the mecanic was a high ground diff but when swwain use it he has no high ground ?
Shot on that spear
"Etsa fechaaaa"
It’s moments like this that makes me confused why riot hasn’t replaced the pc client with the wild rift one.
PLEEEAAASE! Watch replay Captain Spear!
Technicaly Vi "Q" hit you but the damage is not went through. And the animation of her "Q" pushed you sideway that why i think it looked like you flashed.
I love DETDERT
Polearm Tosser back at it again.
On the real though if the glitch through vi's q doesnt happen does spear win? He probably loses his topside off that play.
Question, i saw during the game that Thresh didn't give a fuck about souls, like, first time was when doing the dragon, he had the sould below and didn't take em, but maybe there were people near or something and he didn't want to risk it, but then, when doing the grubs, he also didn't grab like 5 souls and he was right next to them, is this normal with high elo thresh's? Only reason i might see is that he doesn't expect the game to last as long so he just doesn't stack souls?
In most cases, going for those souls hed either be slightly behind his team or have to use his W, both big teamfight changing factors
Nah Tresh is the GOAT bro
Finally the jungle challenge is over. it was so boring...
it happens on hihher framrate to me i teleport left and right
You may be bullshitting, but the fact you were able to immediately tell what actually happened just goes to show your skill.
Detdert was coping so hard
Beat t1 at his own game and go chally all roles
I'm pretty sure it's just dsync
yeah its boring but i mean people who queue it up dont fking care about that shit, jungle has so manny broken and easy champs compared to lanes and they have so much more control over the game they only care about winning or loosing they do not care how, i swear in jngl you can run around like a headless chicken to walk behind someone and if it doesnt work you just go farm another camp and do it again and that alone and doing nothing else will get you to master if you arent an ape, the only time they get punished for bad play is when they miss smites on game winning objectives and thats literaly the only time jng needs skill
L mentality
Who is in 3047?? 🤖
Nah, guys. Do you know how hard it is to release new 250$ skins every month? Riot is a small indie company after all
mechanic, feature or bug its all the same xd
talk to me captain
WTF IS THIS BUG NAAAAH MAN F THIS GAME
Hate the game, not the player
The difficulty of jungle comes from decision making, and a challenger player who plays pantheon top (a solid roam option) will definitely be solid in the jungle especially if their one-trick for years is viable there.
Theres always at least 3 different plays you can make at any time and most of the time only one of them is a good one, and thats where I say jungle is difficult. When you look at toplane, if you're not playing some solid roamer like Quinn, Pantheon, ect. The only plays you have to make are wave management-based (and of course 1v1s, but even junglers get into skirmishes so...) and while YES I do agree that wave management is a skill that takes time to learn, it acts like a formula when you know how to manage your wave you can do the same shit every game and succeed. Look at Alois as an example and you'll see what I mean.
Meanwhile in the jungle the decisions and plays you have to make vary game by game, and its almost never "formula-like." If enemy jg ganks bot you can chose to invade raptors, gank mid/top, clear your own camps, take an objective, ect ect. There's just way more decision making then, "oh waves solid I'll freeze for the 8th time in a row"
Now, its true that if the enemy jungler is bad and you have no pressure put on top of you then yeah, jungle will feel easy. Just like if the enemy top laner feeds you, top lane will feel like the easiest role. This isn't an exclusive thing to jungle, and to be frank, the real reason that "jungler players are shit" is that you're a challenger player who knows what he's doing on a champion he's played for years. Once you understood the basics of the role your better micro, macro, and champion mastery washed all of these masters and diamonds out.
Just how I see it
im not reading all that
@@Gauge-lo2bp Then don't
@@killersavitar149 L
why is this dude so salty over a game tf
First chat
The way spear gaslights him that cant be right just admit it's a bug man be humble
respectfully this is the worst title ive even seen
S-tier music, S-tier content, S-tier editing, S-tier gameplay, feels illegal to watch this without paying. Thanks boys for the content :)