Changes For the Bulls Will Be Harder Than You Think
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Breaking down the Bulls current salary cap situation and the challenges they will face to enact meaningful changes to the roster
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Interestingly enough, when AKME 1st came in, it was thought almost impossible to move the players and improve the situation we were in. Let's hope this time, AKME, IF their ACTUALLY given an OK from the Reinsdorf's, can work some roster magic in finally doing a rebuild that this new era should've started off with
Interestingly enough when AKME 1st came in, they moved almost all the players and made the situation we were in much worse by loading up on expensive veterans instead of continuing to build on the multiple young lottery picks on the roster, most of whom have now proven their worth while DeMar and Vuc have only gotten older.
@meekrab9027 Correct. You are making my point for me. The truth is management wanted a retooling. Wanting to compete in mediocrity rather than going into full rebuild.
Therefore, the point I made was this. "If" the Reinsdorf's allow AKME to actually go for an entire rebuild and draft the players with a high enough pick ( lottery willing of course ) then IMHO that would at least give them an honest opportunity at a true AKME hand crafter rebuild rather than a "inherited talent retooling"
The young talent they let go, NONE of them were worth rebuilding a team around. Lauri has gotten better. No doubt. But look at Utah. He's not a building block.
And while I think we may agree more than we disagree. On this I'll have to respectfully say hell no. The retooling and what I believe is ownership decision to build around Zach set the organization back 5 years at least when considering we resigned that passive aggressive one dimensional cry baby clown and the domino's of contracts that followed due to ownerships willingness to force the hand of management to continue said rebuild.
I'd rather take a chance at a reputable unleashed AKME in a rebuild than a retooling any day.
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Bulls have to realize they have to tank and tank correctly this time. Before they were half foot out and half foot in then try to speed up the process. You only trade future 1st round picks when you are a top 3 seed to get you over the hump
What does tank means?
@@David.560_-essentially losing on purpose to gain a higher pick in the draft.
My dream pick ups for the bulls this offseason is nic claxton and PG13.
Nic Claxton I can see, but not a chance they land PG
It’s always hard. Can’t believe there’s debate on whether we should give Demar 40 mil a year or not😂😂
Edit: I’m saying we shouldn’t give Demar that much.
They already tried. He wants more years. If you can get him to sign 3 years 100M I’d say that’s the only way you keep him.
I understand what you mean. But that’s still too much imo. I know Demar is a great midrange scorer but I just don’t think he’s worth that much money. Maybe if he was younger then I would definitely consider it.
@@YKBOOGIEEE the thing that’s wrong with that take is, DeMar has a game that isn’t predicated on overwhelming athleticism. He takes care of himself and respects the game. I can see him maintaining his play for a couple more seasons the way we see with Steph, KD, Lebron, Dame late in their careers. Obviously those guys are a tier above, but I’ve seen nothing from Demar that indicates he’ll be falling off in the near future. Especially considering he’s not going to have to shoulder as much of a load next year when you have Coby and Ayo coming back. You’re most likely gonna get a star level talent to take on the scoring load. And don’t discount the possibility of Zach still being around. While he had a horrible season, I truly think having him around after Coby and Ayo got going would have made this a playoff team. I’m not in the camp that just assumes Zach is this selfish “me me me” player. I think he cares about winning and is willing to sacrifice to do so.
I'm more concerned with getting these guys out, as none of them can consistently give you enough points to win games
Drummond
Vuc
Caruso
Craig
Carter
Williams
20-25 million a year is fair if you're bringing him in to be a 2nd option for a solid playoff team.
The problem is that the Bulls have Zach LaVine as the 1st option and he is just not that guy.
From my perspective of this season, the biggest change I would like to see is in the center position. Vooch is no longer an all-star caliber player. Sure, he might have some good games on the stat sheets, but they just seem like empty calories for me. More often than not, he looks checked out of this team. Drummond, on the other hand, can still be serviceable but he can be a liability at times too (Craig incident and almost injuring Caruso). Sanogo is good but still needs a lot of work.
I feel like the Magic are the most likely team to get Zach becuz watching them in the playoffs, they need offense badly
this would be funny if that happens 😅
Very badly, but I don’t know if Zach really makes them THAT much better
Bulls should have taken the Knicks offer last year for Lavine.
I feel like that trade was trash and all trades I saw for him were terrible
I’m still in favor blowing the team up. We’re not ready to win especially with this coaching staff and roster
I'm excited for the possible rebuild, what player we'll land in the draft and how the lottery will turn out, and how Lonzo will look like next season. I think this sums up what all bulls fans are thinking.
Has a basketball fan I’d hate to see Lonzo’s injury deemed career ending. But I do understand it from a business perspective for the Bulls.
Great take. I agree with AK that incremental change is better than tanking and rebuilding. It almost never works in any sports, the one exception is basketball because one player can have such a huge impact. I think it's more important to move Demar than Zach, as unpopular as that may be. I haven't given up on Zach. He's hurt. He was once a top ten player and he's relatively young, and maybe healthy. Still, moving both would be best. Lonzo is unlikely to play in the NBA again, imo. If they were to get Trae Young I'll never watch a Bulls game again. Paul George is old. But Donovan Mitchell?! Omg, that would not only make them significantly better, but the team wealthier. He's a superstar and will be for awhile. There aren't many players that are worth watching just for the sake of, but he's one of them.
It’s rinse and repeat every year with the difficulty of improving the roster getting compounded. I think I’m out again for another 12 months. Not wasting my time on this team. I enjoy your honest videos. Cheers
I’m a long time subscriber and watch your videos first thing every morning, as they’re available.
I might be speaking only for myself: It’s hard to follow all the bouncing decimal points without accompanying graphics. That’s the only criticism I have for this channel.
Damar is leaving going to Philly with his old coach , lowery, Embid, and Maxie to try to win a ring. Why stay with us. We're not going to be a contender for at least 3 years.. Throw in Pat will or Drummond. Give us Buddy, Tobias, and Kelly. I think Philly got some pieces if we keep Zach. Demar needs to go play for a contender . Let him go
Would a sign and trade of Demar to a contending team work for the Bulls?
For whom
Depending on where we draft I would go with either Filipowski or Clingan and I’m shipping out Zach and Vooch.
If Demarr didn’t accept 2 years at $80 million, then I’m guessing he doesn’t really want to come back, regardless of what he says. Because I doubt any other team is going to offer him that kind of salary, definitely not a contender. The Bulls are so f’d
Yeah, Mate! You put it absolutely on the spot: TRADING ZACH LAVINE is going to be imperative!!! Hopefully we can keep the young core Coby, Ayo and Pat... But again , the lottery pick will be important too... And offcourse we need some luck with it... Go Bulls
We need good draft picks and trades also sign some stars in free agency do something it’s been 10 years
Trade Zach- 40M, trade Vooch- 20M, let Demar walk or sign him for 25m or less, medically retire Lonzo. If they do all this they will have a ton of cap room. And I hope they bring back Drum
Yeah and move up in draft they snoozed in the draft for years
Aint that easy, you gotta take people and contracts back, also trading lavine aint easy, hes injury prone, and only playing 1 way.
Warriors will be desperate next year to be competitive and not waste Curry's last 2-3 good seasons. I say we trade them lavine and get Chris Paul + 2 picks back. We waive Chris Paul and got 2 picks + a bunch of cap space. Offer demar 4 year 100$ mill, 40 first year 30 second year and 15 + 15 last 2.
Bulls have no patience for anything,why not just wait until you see what the market is for DEmar because ain't no team offering him 40 million,that's crazy.
we need more size lmao talking about trae young and donovan mitchell is quite literally more of the same shit
Dump Billy, Zach, Vooch, Lonzo and DeMar for picks, role players and an actual Pro coach...grab best available with the 11th pick, expect a high lottery at the end of the 2025 year, build around Coby, P. Will and that 2025 pick. Find a star player in the offseason that works well with the roster and fortunes change. If done properly, the Bulls could be a playoff team by 2026.
Trying to hang on to these old players that cost way too much is a terrible idea. DeMar and Vooch are decent, but no way the two of them are worth $60M even in today's market.
Something to think about that just hit me....while akme is CLEARLY better already than garpax ever was....how telling is it that the nuggets became truly ELITE after AK left?
Because the owner doesn't really care, so improving the team will be difficult because of Jerry Reinsdorf. It starts with him.
Oof. This was a depressing video. I did find it funny that finished the video saying "if the ultimate goal is to keep winning." The Bulls haven't finished a season at .500 or better since the 2021-2022 season. To me, that's not winning. I really hope AKME see that too. This team has been in a time freeze since then.
Yeah with Jerry still being the owner and being selfish and being way too cheap AK will have a hard time improving the roster but I hope he does make some changes that are significant
He should walk because the Bulls not going nowhere no time soon specially paying Zach $40 million & Lonzo $21 million Vooch making $20 million and both Coby & Patrick Williams making nice money so there's not to much room to make a change the team needs
Rebuild.
Let’s get Bones from the Clippers
yea we're cooked 😭
All this team needs is the ginger mamba back. Scalabrine the GOAT
Lol the drop in trade capital for Lavine is typical bulls shit, murphys law works overtime on this organization 😂
Key: coby out; vucevic out; ayo and demar two big in's and more players like them!
I love your takes and your videos but why are you so hell bent on thinking the market for Zach will be scarce… it’s a very dramatic perspective imo
Because hes a 1 way player, who cost points on defense. Also hes injury prone, with to big a contract equels Hard to trade.
@@oldmennewgames yet Bradley Beal can get traded who shares a similar “one dimensional” skill set and is also way older… just stop
Signing Zach doomed us..what a waste.
I agree
we need to hold coby and caruso.. everyone else can go.. everyone else
Coby got clamped by Tyler , Caleb and company and is very inconsistent nobody on this team is untouchable
this my delusional prediction
-trade zach and picks for unhappy star and pull a miwake bucks
-trade vuch for an athletic center
-sign those shooters like the celtics did
-coby leap
-patrick will leap
-ayo leap
BAM 50 wins
The change AK will do is trade Zach. It's gonna be a repeat. I'm sorry everyone.
Demar DeRozen is a good offemsive player not a great one. He is also a mediocre to poor defender and mediocre to poor rebounder as a guard. These are facts. Was he better and more explosive when he was younger, absolutely!!! We can do a lot with his salary for an above average scorer and poor defender. We need more length, defense and of course long range shooting!!! Plus him and Vooch are offense stallers and slow ball movement as a result. Its boom or bust for DeRozen and Vooch. Meaning things look good when they are making their shots, but when they arent they really dont bring much else to the table to affect the outcome of the game in our favor. Its time to trade Zach, Vooch, and let DeRozen walk to a contender or whomever wants to fork out premium money for an old man. I like DeRozen as a player but was actually sick of the ball hogging he was doing. During the play in game against Miami he was jacking up shots with triple teams like he didnt give a shit if they went down or not. This team as it is constructed has no dog in them nor fight. Its been obvious for three years now. Balls contract also needs to be gone and off the books. He hasnt played in over 2.5 years of competitive basketball and wasnt a huge scorer then, but his Defense and rebounding was good to great for a guard. We are paying a premium price for someone we don't know how they will come back to play. Plus he has been hurt every year he has been in the NBA like his little brother. We do have some decent to good players on the roster already who gives us hustle, defense, scoring and rebounding. We just need a whole new big 2 or 3 to add to the group. Vooch, DeRozen, and Zach are not it 💯!!! Our starting five +/- was ridiculous on how bad they were. Our bench had better +/- than our starters!!! Our bench had to come in to save the complacent starters from blowouts many games this season and last. Time for a change!!!
Again. Why go through a rebuild???? To me a big problem with this team is the bench. They need to build a better bench that can help and then do resign Drummond???? I like Drummond but the problem with him he does not spread out the offense. Now if they bring him back i can accept that however if they can find another center or a power forward that can spread out the offense that is really the center or power forward you need........Zach Levine. To me why trade for expiring contracts and guys you must take that is a rebuild. Look the Pistons trade was a joke because yes his contract off the books but the guys you getting back have no guarantee of being good in 3 to 5 years........need to focus on the draft , the scouting department to find new talent and again figuring out to build a better second team unit. It does not if its Zach, Coby, or Demarr if you have a bad second team your not going far. Lot of games they lost this including the last game to me was lost because they have a second team that just can not fill in like that. If it did more games could be won and make a big difference.......the other this how much influence is management having over this. To me a lot. If that is the case then that can be a problem.
we need more hustle players. i miss the intensity the 90s bulls baby bulls, and drose era bulls played with. a good start would be having a team that plays hard every night
Vuc is a top 13 Center in the NBA, You really need to stop the Vuc hate. He is #3 in Double Doubles this season.. Should probably use that energy on stubburn Billy D. Bulls went 9 years straight without a Center that could average even a low double double and your ragging on Vuc, who can play the 4 or the 5, stretch the floor and get you a double double every night... And these fans look crazy parroting the hate when the league knows who the top 5 centers in double doubles are.. Vuc is probably top 5, 3rd option in the league, Idk how thats a lose.. what more do you expect from your #3 option??
"what more do you expect from your #3 option??" - Fucking D? Vuch is trash on Defense! period.Cant defend pick n roll to save his life.True,he is giving Double doubles at the same time,he is past his prime and really slow on his feet.He would be a good option from the bench at this point only,not a starter player anymore.
Vuc is the second worse starting center in the league next to Nurkic. Vuc can’t play the 4 well at all, can’t shoot or space the floor consistently at all and is a liability on defense. He sucks
@@JayRandom2013 Some ppl hit the comment section when they are drunk.. I need to not drink before you comment.. The numbers and eye test make your take rediculous,,..
@@ragingoracle6239 he’s one of the least efficient centers in the league, bad pnr defender and an even worse rim protector. He’s objectively not good in the modern league lmao
@@JayRandom2013 You dont know what your talking about.. You cant name 12 better Centers.. You can name 5 Canters with more double doubles... You cant name 10 better MODERN (centers that can make a 3ptr) Centers,.. Your just parroting the rediculous takes you hear on YT.. It took the Bulls 9 years to be able to get a good center, and now fools was to release the best center this team has had over the last 15 years.. I know how hard it is to fill that spot.. This aint 2k bro... get out of here with the nonsense..
Billy Donovan is not a coach if you keep billy Donovan as coach you are going to not winning champion ship at all billy Donovan
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Demar holds that team together
Coby has a lot of value right now. Dump him because we all know hes only great about once a month just like Zach.
The Bulls should trade for Klay Thompson
Keep Lavine screwed this team.