Wasn't watching TST back in 2011, just came here from today's video. Wow, the intro. *edit* Wow, Matt's been rocking those Dillon Optics for a long time.
I just wanna thank you guys for letting me know this place existed. Did 148 with my father in the car this past summer. Definitely one of my favorite memories from our time in California.
David Peck Just filled it up with 93 octane and filled the tires to maximum pressure. Other than that, just take some time to find a decent stretch of smooth dirt.
Its amazing the level of quality this show has in all areas, top notch host, all the best cars, interesting stories etc. etc. all this in a youtube show! Your work is greatly appreciated Matt, keep on keepin' on.
i never knew this thing had red lights that chase the needle up the speed gauge. all cars should have this!!!! lol so simple but it's the little touches and attention here that make this car stand out!!! Matt, with the obvious success your new t.v show is going to get, i am sure we will see you rockin' a CTS-V Wagon any time now!
pity cadillac won't make a wagon out of the current cts - v. Speaking as a BMW fanboy I'd have a hard time not choosing a CTS-V wagon over most newer M5/M6s
Matt I've been following your shows since the beginning, and i must say the production values and the overall quality of your episodes have been stellar. Keep it up, wont be surprised to see you leave youtube in the past and reach TV coverage.
I would of got a 1998 STS with passion if wasnt the front wheel drive, since 70's there were almost 30 years before Caddy had to start doing RWD again, thank god! Im a big fan of the CTS-V wagon, and I believe when I grow up a little bit (im 21 now) and probably move to USA im gonna get me one of them! I cant think of a better family car! THANK YOU GM!
Finally a good video from you guys. I have not been a fan of your prior work, but this is by far a step in the right direction. This was much better commentary from you Matt. I hope your future videos are this good if not better.
I love wagons. I drive a VW W8 wagon. Its quick but like Matt, i would give almost anything to have the CTS-V wagon. I'll bet it even gets equal or better gas mileage than my W8. Smoking Tire has the best car reviews I've seen. Keep it up.
@weed46 it's not pointless, if you have a point. My point about the caddy is that it has a very powerful engine, and I'm using a Gallardo and an Enzo as a basis for comparison, citing true facts. I never said it's faster around a race track than either of those cars, nor would I. But that doesn't mean I can't use horsepower and torque numbers to show how powerful a station wagon is compared to a supercar.
@pwsparrow some of the secondary materials on the inside are a little cheap, it's too quiet given the amount of power it produces, and the fuel economy was some of the worst we've observed in any car. We had it for 7 days, and put 9 tanks of fuel in it. On the day that we shot this video, I burned through an entire tank of premium in around 60 miles, which is about 4 mpg.
@Greendude33 I think you can easily predict what the next Corvette will be: a V8 up front, manual transmission in the middle, and the drive wheels out back. Hopefully they will improve on the horrid automatic transmission, and update the interior significantly. Other than that, I'd bet there won't be any surprises.
@gammaga The RS6 is not sold in the US in any form, the M5 and E63 are sold in the US as sedans only. And while the CTS-V is very affordable, the cheapest 500+ horsepower car you can buy in the US is the Shelby GT500, which starts at about $48,000.
@twobimmers we're actually a step ahead of you. One of our two lav's broke the morning of this shoot, so we had to use our backup (not as good) for the in car and out of car. But last week we bought brand new sets of mic's so we're good now.
@gammaga The E63 and M5 Estate, as well as the RS6 Avant, are not available in the US, so I've never tried any of them. The V wagon is exceptionally good and I'd be perfectly happy to drive one for 2 years. And they don't all cost the same. The V wagon is quite a bit cheaper than its German competition.
@weed46 it's called using facts for effect. All of those facts I listed are 100% true, but it doesn't mean that the Caddy is necessarily faster on a track. That's the downside of having over 4,000 lbs to lug around.
@1IdeaAhead fortunately, the ride quality is fantastic from the magnetic ride control suspension. In "tour" mode it's more absorbent than the Mercedes E550 coupe we tested a few months back, and in "sport" mode it's tight and responsive, and very easy to drift.
It is. I found a wagon (2012), had Lund Cadillac in Phoenix do their 18% performance upgrade (640HP...) - all under warranty, and drove it home to SoCal and had a total blast. Just sold my 2009 e63 and not looking back. This is a fantastic car. I'm upgrading to 20" HREs and lowering it 3/4", and that's it. It sounds like an F16 at full throttle.
@TheVtieg6 I've heard of delimited M5's hitting 200 before, I'm sure the shorter gearing and higher redline of the M5 compared to the CTS-V has something to do with it.
@TheMightySamsonite The now-defunct WRX wagon was nice, and it was my favorite body style in that generation, but it's not the 190 mph missile that the CTS-V is. And I never said that the CTS-V was the only exciting wagon, there are plenty of them, especially in Europe. But I did say it was the only exciting American-made wagon in recent memory.
@GunGuru727 I have several pairs. The Piloti Prototipos are kind of the all-the-time standard. I also have some Shelby Branded shoes that Tom and I got to match our car for Bullrun last year. Plus, they are velcro which is awesome. For actual racing I have some DC Pro Spec v1.0 that are second to none.
@lawsonmahoney that's either a major fuck-up for them, or they are referring to the whole model range of the 911, in which AWD is an option in some variants.
I was sad when the video ended lol. This looks like a dream come true such a beautiful place and BADASS cars...all out nothing around plus I'm sure you've got a detailer lined up for all the dirt hahahahaha. Man wish there was more of this video Hahahaha
I have a 1964 Chevelle Malibu wagon, and i must say that is one sweet looking car, and it performs very well too with a 327 and a 4 speed muncie, but it is nowhere near as amazing as this. He's right on the fact that wagons died a long time ago, and its awesome to see a new spin on them .
@TheSmokingTire ill take ur word for it...love the work u guys do...a lot of thought into it, love it i want ur job ;)...cars and cameras what a dream job
@worldwidechris they are called Dillon Optics, and you can purchase them through the link on our website. If you use that link, we send you a free TST T-Shirt!
For the first time in a long while, american cars are really starting to attract me. They have finally started taking tips from foreign automakers and are stepping up the quality. CTS-V, Vette, Camaro or BuicK Regal (Opel insignia) I would spend my money on those cars
@AudiABTr8 They are called Dillon Optics, and they are a sponsor of The Smoking Tire. If you click on the "Dillon" banner on our main web site, it will take you to their site and if you order a pair with that link you'll get a free TST T-Shirt too.
@Jsdancer We're making "The Car Show" right now, which premiers on the SPEED network in July.
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how come you guy's don't have more notoriety? you produce an awesome show...with a great presenter, editor, director, and still, you're "only" an online show... that's a BIG injustice...
@jonen9494 I don't know why everyone assumes that because I'm an American, I'm partial to American cars. I like good cars, regardless of which country they are from and what badges they wear. The Corvette and the CTS-V happen to be two very good American cars (and there are plenty of bad ones too), just like there are good and bad cars from Germany. I've spent lots of time in the E60 M5, and I can definitively say the CTS-V is more fun to drive and a much better value, and it's faster.
@jmooch59 You'll see me on TV in July on "The Car Show" on Speed with Adam Carolla, Dan Neil, and John Salley. And if you'd like a T-Shirt they are available on our web site.
@jonen9494 There's nothing wrong with the German cars like the RS6 and M5, in fact they are fantastic. But they are significantly more expensive than the CTS-V, without any real advantage except for some of the secondary materials used.
@mike88g1 When I write responses, I take the time to use proper spelling and grammar as a sign of respect to those who I'm speaking to. It's nice when people choose to use the same respect when writing back to me.
@lilaznmage15 very close comparison. I'd say the Mustang is a bit more fun to drive, yet the Cadillac is more composed and offers more practicality for the dollar
@Acct1941 The decision to run said V8 through a Front wheel drive platform, combined with the awful build quality and flagrant parts-bin cheapness is what I was getting at.
@sportfuryman The car is out of production, so there aren't any press cars around to test. Sourcing all those cars from private owners would be much more annoying than it's worth.
@sford01 Yeah, until we make enough money to get our own testing gear and a race track in our back yard, we need to just get most of our numbers elsewhere. I'd imagine that if the same driver tested them on the same day, the Porsche could out-grip the Caddy, but I could tell just by driving the Caddy hard that it's capable of way more than .88G. For now it will have to remain a mystery.
For less than $10K you can mod a current gen CTS-v into 700 hp+ (pulleys, headers, tune, intake, etc.). Just a tune would cost you that much on a Panamera, M5 or AMG car.
Wasn't watching TST back in 2011, just came here from today's video. Wow, the intro.
*edit* Wow, Matt's been rocking those Dillon Optics for a long time.
chick did not care at all
I just wanna thank you guys for letting me know this place existed. Did 148 with my father in the car this past summer. Definitely one of my favorite memories from our time in California.
I live an hours drive away so I go out there in my e46 m3 every once in a while just to have some fun. What car did you use when you went?
David Peck Just filled it up with 93 octane and filled the tires to maximum pressure. Other than that, just take some time to find a decent stretch of smooth dirt.
hello onstar, I'm about to do 175 and I'd like you to be on the phone to listen for sounds of collapsing metal
Why would metal be collapsing?
Vernon Price uhhh.. I think he means thats what it sounds like when eventually crashes that car XD.
BXRchampion1993 And... why would the car be crashing, again? You understand it's built do to 190+ from the factory, right?
@Vernon Price, he is implying that he himself is not a good enough driver to keep it under control
That fact that a wagon is keeping up with a corvette is amazing. All props to cadillac on this one, corvette is no joke
The thing is, that was a MODIFIED Corvette. The CTS-V wagon is actually faster than a stock C6.
Its Actually a N/A & supercharged 6.2 LS3 motor....
I just bought a CTS-V sedan, love it.
Thanks Vernon love that wagon that is the new face for America god bless America and all its cts v wagon drivers
Its amazing the level of quality this show has in all areas, top notch host, all the best cars, interesting stories etc. etc. all this in a youtube show! Your work is greatly appreciated Matt, keep on keepin' on.
I got a chance to drive one of these at GM's Michigan proving grounds, and it was absolutely glorious.
I gotta say, production has gone through the roof in the last few episodes. You guys are approaching TV quality. Keep it up!!!
the videography was excellent! props to tom and everyone else behind the scenes. and great job as usual matt
I'd say this is the best video you guys have came out with in some time. Way to go!
i never knew this thing had red lights that chase the needle up the speed gauge. all cars should have this!!!! lol so simple but it's the little touches and attention here that make this car stand out!!! Matt, with the obvious success your new t.v show is going to get, i am sure we will see you rockin' a CTS-V Wagon any time now!
pity cadillac won't make a wagon out of the current cts - v. Speaking as a BMW fanboy I'd have a hard time not choosing a CTS-V wagon over most newer M5/M6s
Matt I've been following your shows since the beginning, and i must say the production values and the overall quality of your episodes have been stellar. Keep it up, wont be surprised to see you leave youtube in the past and reach TV coverage.
I would of got a 1998 STS with passion if wasnt the front wheel drive, since 70's there were almost 30 years before Caddy had to start doing RWD again, thank god! Im a big fan of the CTS-V wagon, and I believe when I grow up a little bit (im 21 now) and probably move to USA im gonna get me one of them! I cant think of a better family car! THANK YOU GM!
The shots are fantastic guys. This and the Audi RS4/S4 are your best two videos by a longshot.
the onstar bit was a nice touch haha glad to see you keeping it fresh
@magna59 There aren't many corners on dry lake beds. We drove it through the Malibu canyons, it was very impressive.
@doggiepowers I actually prefer the wagon to the coupe as well. De-badged it's the best sleeper ever, and it's much rarer.
Finally a good video from you guys. I have not been a fan of your prior work, but this is by far a step in the right direction. This was much better commentary from you Matt. I hope your future videos are this good if not better.
Love sport wagons, Nice to see a US maker bringing them back!
I love wagons. I drive a VW W8 wagon. Its quick but like Matt, i would give almost anything to have the CTS-V wagon. I'll bet it even gets equal or better gas mileage than my W8.
Smoking Tire has the best car reviews I've seen. Keep it up.
That Drag Race was Amazing!!!!! Dust Spilling from the tire amazing!
stunning, purely stunning footage!
The CTS-V reminds me of my Trailblazer SS. Great video. Thanks.
Great episode guys keeps up the good work! Can't wait for your show on speed!
@weed46 it's not pointless, if you have a point. My point about the caddy is that it has a very powerful engine, and I'm using a Gallardo and an Enzo as a basis for comparison, citing true facts. I never said it's faster around a race track than either of those cars, nor would I. But that doesn't mean I can't use horsepower and torque numbers to show how powerful a station wagon is compared to a supercar.
I'd get in a bed with this car. A lake bed. Hopefully a dry one.
@pwsparrow some of the secondary materials on the inside are a little cheap, it's too quiet given the amount of power it produces, and the fuel economy was some of the worst we've observed in any car. We had it for 7 days, and put 9 tanks of fuel in it. On the day that we shot this video, I burned through an entire tank of premium in around 60 miles, which is about 4 mpg.
@Greendude33 I think you can easily predict what the next Corvette will be: a V8 up front, manual transmission in the middle, and the drive wheels out back. Hopefully they will improve on the horrid automatic transmission, and update the interior significantly. Other than that, I'd bet there won't be any surprises.
@lawsonmahoney The GT3 is rear-wheel drive only. Only the "4S" and Turbo model 911's are AWD.
@gammaga The RS6 is not sold in the US in any form, the M5 and E63 are sold in the US as sedans only. And while the CTS-V is very affordable, the cheapest 500+ horsepower car you can buy in the US is the Shelby GT500, which starts at about $48,000.
@billiardball001 we don't really know, since the high-powered German wagons aren't sold in the US.
@S4udiGam3r actually, the V12 used in Aston Martin's One-77 is the most powerful N/A engine produced so far in a production car.
@twobimmers we're actually a step ahead of you. One of our two lav's broke the morning of this shoot, so we had to use our backup (not as good) for the in car and out of car. But last week we bought brand new sets of mic's so we're good now.
@gammaga The E63 and M5 Estate, as well as the RS6 Avant, are not available in the US, so I've never tried any of them. The V wagon is exceptionally good and I'd be perfectly happy to drive one for 2 years. And they don't all cost the same. The V wagon is quite a bit cheaper than its German competition.
@weed46 it's called using facts for effect. All of those facts I listed are 100% true, but it doesn't mean that the Caddy is necessarily faster on a track. That's the downside of having over 4,000 lbs to lug around.
@1IdeaAhead fortunately, the ride quality is fantastic from the magnetic ride control suspension. In "tour" mode it's more absorbent than the Mercedes E550 coupe we tested a few months back, and in "sport" mode it's tight and responsive, and very easy to drift.
@thmstec The crew is working on the Speed show for some of the segments, the more standard-issue car review stuff.
@mike88g1 there's a 1,200 lb difference between the two, and the Corvette is more aerodynamic as well.
Another great video man, Ya'll never let me down! Man I would love to have a CTSV wagon and this just confirms why!
Great review as always!!
That is one mean wagon that would be a whole 'lot of fun to drive.
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@brannyK051 Yes, in fact we've never even seen a CTS-V without that option. Great seats.
@TheVtieg6 a Stock M5 is limited to 155 mph. A stock CTS-V will pull 190.
It is. I found a wagon (2012), had Lund Cadillac in Phoenix do their 18% performance upgrade (640HP...) - all under warranty, and drove it home to SoCal and had a total blast. Just sold my 2009 e63 and not looking back. This is a fantastic car. I'm upgrading to 20" HREs and lowering it 3/4", and that's it. It sounds like an F16 at full throttle.
Thanks for the musical exposure guys!
@UFCextra not a modded Z06. a base C6 with Z06 body clips and some engine work.
thanks for the video upload awesome !!!! im a cadillac fan and owner they really hit it with this one
@madant1977 that car isn't sold in the US. The only way to get one is to import it, which would cost about $250,000.
@TheVtieg6 I've heard of delimited M5's hitting 200 before, I'm sure the shorter gearing and higher redline of the M5 compared to the CTS-V has something to do with it.
@TheMightySamsonite The now-defunct WRX wagon was nice, and it was my favorite body style in that generation, but it's not the 190 mph missile that the CTS-V is. And I never said that the CTS-V was the only exciting wagon, there are plenty of them, especially in Europe. But I did say it was the only exciting American-made wagon in recent memory.
@JDisturbed we did a few more races for fun, with very similar results. Vette seems to be a little faster.
Matt, you make my absolute favorite car videos on TH-cam, keep it up man!
@GunGuru727 I have several pairs. The Piloti Prototipos are kind of the all-the-time standard. I also have some Shelby Branded shoes that Tom and I got to match our car for Bullrun last year. Plus, they are velcro which is awesome. For actual racing I have some DC Pro Spec v1.0 that are second to none.
@XanMan1980 we don't have any stickers at the moment, but you can get t-shirts from our web site.
The CTS-V wagon is amazing. I own an e63, and am buying a CTS-V Wagon this weekend. It's truly amazing. I will keep the e63...
@lawsonmahoney that's either a major fuck-up for them, or they are referring to the whole model range of the 911, in which AWD is an option in some variants.
@crimsontide0077 because he lives in New York and we live in Los Angeles.
I was sad when the video ended lol. This looks like a dream come true such a beautiful place and BADASS cars...all out nothing around plus I'm sure you've got a detailer lined up for all the dirt hahahahaha. Man wish there was more of this video Hahahaha
I have a 1964 Chevelle Malibu wagon, and i must say that is one sweet looking car, and it performs very well too with a 327 and a 4 speed muncie, but it is nowhere near as amazing as this. He's right on the fact that wagons died a long time ago, and its awesome to see a new spin on them .
@TheSmokingTire ill take ur word for it...love the work u guys do...a lot of thought into it, love it i want ur job ;)...cars and cameras what a dream job
Maaaan, I hope everyone now sees why I've been a lover of Cadillacs since I was born some 27 years ago. Keep it up, Cadillac!
My favorite video right here.
@worldwidechris they are called Dillon Optics, and you can purchase them through the link on our website. If you use that link, we send you a free TST T-Shirt!
@bitumen83 The newest generation RS6 isn't sold in the US, in sedan or wagon form.
For the first time in a long while, american cars are really starting to attract me. They have finally started taking tips from foreign automakers and are stepping up the quality. CTS-V, Vette, Camaro or BuicK Regal (Opel insignia) I would spend my money on those cars
I just bought one... this thing is a freaking beast
@AudiABTr8 They are called Dillon Optics, and they are a sponsor of The Smoking Tire. If you click on the "Dillon" banner on our main web site, it will take you to their site and if you order a pair with that link you'll get a free TST T-Shirt too.
@sford01 Inside line tested the 997.5 GT3 at .99G, and General Motors quoted 1.02G for our caddy.
nice vid , the cts-v is amazing.
keep up the good work at smoking tire.
what an awesome place to drive freely/fast
@Jsdancer We're making "The Car Show" right now, which premiers on the SPEED network in July.
how come you guy's don't have more notoriety?
you produce an awesome show...with a great presenter, editor, director, and still, you're "only" an online show... that's a BIG injustice...
I really hope that my job pays off for me. This car is so awesome that I really want it! I will gladly go paycheck to paycheck for this monster!
@jonen9494 I don't know why everyone assumes that because I'm an American, I'm partial to American cars. I like good cars, regardless of which country they are from and what badges they wear. The Corvette and the CTS-V happen to be two very good American cars (and there are plenty of bad ones too), just like there are good and bad cars from Germany. I've spent lots of time in the E60 M5, and I can definitively say the CTS-V is more fun to drive and a much better value, and it's faster.
I like how he took OnStar along for the ride!
@EatmyDust1311 permits aren't required t shoot there, and yes, a stock C6 Corvette would have been a closer race.
@SicariusBG07 I tested the CTS-V Sedan when it came out in 2009 back on the old show.
damn i just fell in love with the cadillac!
@jmooch59 You'll see me on TV in July on "The Car Show" on Speed with Adam Carolla, Dan Neil, and John Salley. And if you'd like a T-Shirt they are available on our web site.
@jonen9494 There's nothing wrong with the German cars like the RS6 and M5, in fact they are fantastic. But they are significantly more expensive than the CTS-V, without any real advantage except for some of the secondary materials used.
@mike88g1 When I write responses, I take the time to use proper spelling and grammar as a sign of respect to those who I'm speaking to. It's nice when people choose to use the same respect when writing back to me.
@TheMightySamsonite The WRX wagon (in its last iteration) made about half the horsepower of the CTS-V Wagon. Amateur hour.
Love you! Great review the wagon is my new fav
@ILikeReallyBigButts Nice work, but that's not a wagon anymore, it's a hatchback. The WRX wagon died in 2007.
@lilaznmage15 very close comparison. I'd say the Mustang is a bit more fun to drive, yet the Cadillac is more composed and offers more practicality for the dollar
@Acct1941 The decision to run said V8 through a Front wheel drive platform, combined with the awful build quality and flagrant parts-bin cheapness is what I was getting at.
@sportfuryman The car is out of production, so there aren't any press cars around to test. Sourcing all those cars from private owners would be much more annoying than it's worth.
great episode matt !
the back of that wagon is ugly but an American wagon that accelerates almost as fast as a C6 corvette! thats awesome!
awesome car and great video as always
@sford01 Yeah, until we make enough money to get our own testing gear and a race track in our back yard, we need to just get most of our numbers elsewhere. I'd imagine that if the same driver tested them on the same day, the Porsche could out-grip the Caddy, but I could tell just by driving the Caddy hard that it's capable of way more than .88G. For now it will have to remain a mystery.
@al1500321 just by what i was telling her. onstar doesn't have real time telemetry for speed.
@Philovski I'll give you the GT3RS 4.0. Good call.
@cobralover88 Not unless you've stolen the car. On Star has no way of tracking a vehicle's speed in real time, as the nice lady on the phone told me.
Nice wagon you're draggin'!!
@Pietervdv I would expect the caddy to take a stock C6.
@phillypwner Already have 2, Zack and Thad, and they both work their asses off.
@colenbrak You'll have to remain disappointed then. M5 Touring isn't sold in the US.
For less than $10K you can mod a current gen CTS-v into 700 hp+ (pulleys, headers, tune, intake, etc.). Just a tune would cost you that much on a Panamera, M5 or AMG car.
I believe you are severely exaggerating your claim on that last part, especially about the M5 and "AMG car."
chufa72 Lets not forget it has the utility of an SUV. Best family car ever!