For the first phase of the final boss, you can switch between Steel and Fairy types, leaving it with DD and Cosmic Power. Afterwards, you set up with whatever you got.
A handy Steel/Fairy 'mon is Tinkatink; they're not much to sneeze at at first, but between unlockable Egg Moves and the unlockable bonus Ability, they're *really* solid. Like, they can solo 90% of Classic Mode. Just bring something along to help out with Fire/Ground types, and maybe a non-Poison percent-damage user (Leech Seed, Salt Cure, etc.) to make Wave 200 easier. Even if you don't have any unlocked stuff yet, they're handy to have around; they're missing some offensive coverage without Egg Moves so you'll need to have more support for them (I recommend bringing a Starter like Mudkip to support them at this stage), and their daamge output isn't incredible without the bonus Ability, but they're perfectly serviceable as an all-rounder that can blindly walk into most fights in the game.
Fun little thing, you can force switches on a rival fight really easy by switching in a pokemon with a resistance to the rivals pokemon. They almost always switch, especially on the later battles
@@Herpestesichneumonthere are only 2 routes to ancient ruins only place with any of the tinkaton line encounters which are both rng dependant. I have had runs where i would tush the ancient ruins with map pre round 20 and never gotten lucky
The whole game just sets me up to be easy fry on a Trainer battle/rival fight. I also found that Kartana late game with Guillotine that one time just NUTS. Like... Robloxing the rival's Rayquaza with a OHKO? That was satisfying. But I never seemed to get past floor 150!
When you picked up empoleon I figured you would cheese the first phase of eternatus by switching between empoleon and primarina until it was out of eternabeams and sludge bombs, maybe launching some icy winds in between. After that, a flash fire mon completely walls him. One time I used ninetails and shedinja for something similar
So I did this. Funny thing happened. Holding V showed there were no eternabeams left... yet I was hit by two more of them before it ended up actually using a few struggles... one of which ended my run.
The community can use pokerogue to open a sub genre. Speed runs that focus on main game glitchless and glitch and now pure battle focused speed runs for some of the more competitive people that can execute some the speed run shenanigans
Nah, I'm pretty sure holding is actually slower. That said, if people are allowing a macro, that would solve the issue. Not too long before this video was uploaded though, they added an option to skip already seen dialogue in the Game Settings menu.
The negative RNG in this game is so amped up. I missed play rough 4 times in a row, had an opps shed skin activate all turns of a fight, and after doing 80% on the first hit, an opposing pokemon, with no boosts on his end, drops on mine, or any held item that could have activated this, took the same move and survived on 1 HP. The 1 HP thing happens so often it's insane.
The damage rolls in this game are so stupid, one time I stayed in on the rival fight because it was a 3hko for him and a 2hko for me, and then my next move did half the damage for some reason?????? There were no item activations, no stat boosts, nothing.
Hey. Fuecoco sprigatito and popplio were the same 3 starters i picked of my first run of pokerogue. I won that run with my final team of skeledirge, meowscarada, primarina, excadrill, staraptor and indeedee. Congrats on the win
Only Eternabeam does more damage to mons over level 200 (to replace its original effect of dealing double damage to Dynamaxed mons), which means that Primarina would still have been able to avail of it without any fear.
The best mon I have found that is easy to be able to readily get if you get the map is actually Weavile imo.. It requires help from other mons but it's high speed snd damage while having tripple axle absolutely decimstes M Rayquaza and Eternatus. The reason is that since its a multi hit move it can actually take out multiple health bars ticks with one move. It has a bade 120 attack and 125 speed so with either clearing the opponents tailwind or setting up your own you can outspeed it since M Rayquaza only has a 115 base speed and I believe you can also be 5 levels above it (?)
Fantastic video! The idea is speedrunning this game from a fresh file is fascinating, particularly when I had so much trouble beating classic the first time.
The funny thing about the AI being so aggressive about switching is that it becomes extremely predictable. Stealth Rocks can be used to shred the rival battle because the AI tries to avoid a bad matchup at all costs, this also causes it to more or less announce exactly what its next move will be. If you know what team it has beforehand, then you can basically predict the AI's every move.
I find Meganium a surprisingly good out of the box starter. It's bulky; and gets Screens; Leech Seed; Synthesis in case you're still not healing enough and Giga Drain. Leech Seed is busted on bosses because it's % damage. And not much can really chunk a Meganium behind screens while it's Leech Seeding and Giga Draining you. Plus; there's quite a lot of biomes with Water and Ground types. I'd go so far to say they are the most common biomes. The thing about Biomes is you can just use something else to cover for places Meganium is bad in. Meganium is a great candidate to give any Irons and Zincs you find too due to this; since higher defences essencially amply the effect of HP recovery. Even against Mega Ray; since Meganium baits it in; you just Leech Seed and swap to a flying resist that scares it out and Mega Ray takes two turns of Seed damage and loses a HP bar. It feels WEIRD to say "Chikorita is a good starter" but it legitimately is.
You probably thought of it and it’s slower or something but you can also hold the button to skip dialogue optics and also hold it to constantly attack iirc. Either way great video! Please give your hand/wrist some rest so you don’t get carpal tunnel!
can confirm, without the map the game will always force you to loop through your worst possible biomes (looking at you dojo, the sone i seemingly speedran to in all my normal mono runs)
10:33 As someone named Iris, whose sona/OC has, retroactively, anyway, heavy basis on Yveltal, this is incredibly funny to me. Just last night, they did do an update to the champion teams (such as adding Megas to their teams), and I really hope they kept this LOL. (EDIT: they replaced it with Reshiram... damn I can no longer joke that they put me in the game)
Some of the best pokemon to grab for the big 3 challenging fights are mawile and tinkaton since their fairy/steel typings give rayquaza/mega rayquaza a rough time and eternatus’s first phase can’t actually hit you. Alternatively, if you get extremely lucky with items and come across dna splicers you can totally wall eternatus with a fairy steel fusion that includes dachsbundt and its well baked body ability giving it a fire immunity.
@@julioventura3641 really? guess they changed it at some point, it used to just have dynamax beam, sludge bomb, cosmic power and some other setup move in first form and then got flamethrower when you got to phase 2
granted ive been doing solo (or "ironmon" if you will) runs of classic, 1:28:xx is wild 😂 its usually like 60m to get to rayquaza rival 1, so for 145-200 to be 28 minutes (obviously it wasnt, but in reference to the IGTs (which includes egg hatching times) that ive seen) is bonkers
You are still lucky, on my first clear i also battle Iris, she bring 3 dragon type, 3 terastilyze pokemon with one of them is g-max lapras. Btw the legendary she bring is reshiram😂
I think you needed to play around the switches more. The AI loves switching into better matchups. I'm also pretty sure the increased damage is double damage dynamax cannon, which is dragon type, so fairy types are free to go above lvl 200.
I have a good run going at 191 I have yet to beat classic and I genuinely feel like a loser , I get to the final boss ( can’t spell his name ) and he just fucks me everytime in second phase , and I have all counters to poison dragon , I jus suck 😅
Popplio is really good, everything with high SpDef is, Meowscarada is kinda bad though, compared to many other starters... Always go bulky in this game. You should also try Blastoise and Torterra, they get shell smash and steamroll most of the game.
Technically the map doesnt always let you choose. Sometimes one area will have a 100% chance to go to another. Other times theres a 20% chance you could go to a more rare location but the map wont let you choose the rarer location
I've come to a similar conclusion for the three starters, but personally I like picking bulbasaur over sprigarito (even if sprigatito is super fast and compensates the other two) simply because having a gen1 starter guarantess that if you ever find a mega bracelet or g-max you'll have at least one eligible pokemon, which is pretty nice
The best thing on my best run was, that i destroyed Top 4 easily. But PokeRogue thought to just throw an Ass-Trainer between those Top 4 who simply countered my Team. I managed to win against him, but lost 4 Pokemon on that. Then my Team was weakened against the Champ because i had no more Money. This Game totally trolls sometimes 😂 Sometimes i also think that this Game is marked, how many times my Pokemon are missing important hits.
For some reason, I’m just absolutely horrible at pokerogue. I have multiple legendaries and I’ve played for Month. I have gotten to elite 4 twice and RN I’m on 195 rival battle. Edit: when my older brother gets home I’ll ask him to beat it for me🗿
@@bomoose some passive %hp dmg, like salt cure on Garganacl or a way to take off its stat buffs (on my first succesfull attempt I had Galarian Weezing with clear smoke). Bonus points if you get Malamar with Topsy-Turvy to make Ethernatus super week
@@bomoose dragon energy is an egg move. Teach it lister purge too. Build your team around it too with other pokemon like gargnacl with salt cure and cover Tinkaton
i hate to be that guy buuuut icy wind on primarina is a misplay Icy wind 95% of 55 bsp = 52.25 base power * 2 = 104.5 base power Moon blast 100% of 95 bsp = 95 bsp *1.5 (for stab) = 142.5 base power moonblast is just better for eternatus unless if you are going for speed drops
Nah. Maybe it's you who had no idea I procrastinationed for weeks on this while also practicing for the Pokemon North American International Championship before releasing it. 😄
Can I get some F's in comments for my poor hands after speedrunning this game? 😭
Holding down buttons spams them
F
Bro your one to talk in thousands of waves into endless
F
Respect for pulse
The pokerogue discord server has a whole speedrunning community now
Eternatus is not separate rounds. Its both 200. That's why there's no break.
For the first phase of the final boss, you can switch between Steel and Fairy types, leaving it with DD and Cosmic Power. Afterwards, you set up with whatever you got.
A handy Steel/Fairy 'mon is Tinkatink; they're not much to sneeze at at first, but between unlockable Egg Moves and the unlockable bonus Ability, they're *really* solid. Like, they can solo 90% of Classic Mode.
Just bring something along to help out with Fire/Ground types, and maybe a non-Poison percent-damage user (Leech Seed, Salt Cure, etc.) to make Wave 200 easier.
Even if you don't have any unlocked stuff yet, they're handy to have around; they're missing some offensive coverage without Egg Moves so you'll need to have more support for them (I recommend bringing a Starter like Mudkip to support them at this stage), and their daamge output isn't incredible without the bonus Ability, but they're perfectly serviceable as an all-rounder that can blindly walk into most fights in the game.
or since it eternabeams into the fairy mon you can hit it to bring it down if you don't have any set up
You don't keep the stat boosts in phase 2 I think
@@wezen89 The boss loses their stat changes when they transform into Phase 2, but you keep them (assuming you don't switch out or something).
Fun little thing, you can force switches on a rival fight really easy by switching in a pokemon with a resistance to the rivals pokemon. They almost always switch, especially on the later battles
Popplio is underrated in this game. Good coverage and a fairy type, which you basically need to win in this game.
I did it with swampet.
Tinkaton exists and makes poplio useless
@@lucapangrazi9217 Unless you're just starting out and don't have tinkaton.
@@DarkenedRavenyou can reliably catch tinkaton every run if you use the map and any steel type with protect walls 1st fase
@@Herpestesichneumonthere are only 2 routes to ancient ruins only place with any of the tinkaton line encounters which are both rng dependant. I have had runs where i would tush the ancient ruins with map pre round 20 and never gotten lucky
I find it funny.
Many people dont ever see floor 200.
Yet people are out here like: Let's speedrun this bish.
Levels 30-180 are super easy. It’s only the start and end that can be difficult.
The whole game just sets me up to be easy fry on a Trainer battle/rival fight.
I also found that Kartana late game with Guillotine that one time just NUTS. Like... Robloxing the rival's Rayquaza with a OHKO? That was satisfying.
But I never seemed to get past floor 150!
@@NopeNope-mh4ty level 145 is probably the hardest fight in the game
@@drillnewsandclips3798 it’s probably level 8 if you don’t bring diverse enough starters. but i guess rayquaza is tough too
My friend died to the round 200 and was very sad
When you picked up empoleon I figured you would cheese the first phase of eternatus by switching between empoleon and primarina until it was out of eternabeams and sludge bombs, maybe launching some icy winds in between. After that, a flash fire mon completely walls him. One time I used ninetails and shedinja for something similar
From my experience, the AI is smart enough to not repeat lines like that endlessly and eventually will do something to throw you off
@@spoxx1802 I used the good' ol steel fairy swap to get it down to the second phase. It allows you to get to phase 2 for bascly free.
So I did this. Funny thing happened. Holding V showed there were no eternabeams left... yet I was hit by two more of them before it ended up actually using a few struggles... one of which ended my run.
@@2marowas that phase 1 or 2?
@@cross-layered8538 actually I think it was endless
The community can use pokerogue to open a sub genre. Speed runs that focus on main game glitchless and glitch and now pure battle focused speed runs for some of the more competitive people that can execute some the speed run shenanigans
5:39 How did you catch both pokemon in one fight? I thought you had to knock one out for it to let you catch the other one in double battles
Are you spamming to skip the dialog? You can just hold the button tho, brother.
This would have saved me so much pain...
Nah, I'm pretty sure holding is actually slower. That said, if people are allowing a macro, that would solve the issue.
Not too long before this video was uploaded though, they added an option to skip already seen dialogue in the Game Settings menu.
@@PulseEffectsyou can also enable skip seen dialogs in settings once you beat classic
I don't want to spoil people in the comments so I'm hiding it under this comment.
5 seconds off from getting 1:23:45.6. We were so close to greatness!
I tapped the time signature and the video immediately ended.
The negative RNG in this game is so amped up. I missed play rough 4 times in a row, had an opps shed skin activate all turns of a fight, and after doing 80% on the first hit, an opposing pokemon, with no boosts on his end, drops on mine, or any held item that could have activated this, took the same move and survived on 1 HP. The 1 HP thing happens so often it's insane.
Skill?
@@roadrunner5549 such a skill issue lemme tell ya
Across multiple runs, the AI only failed a double protect once
The damage rolls in this game are so stupid, one time I stayed in on the rival fight because it was a 3hko for him and a 2hko for me, and then my next move did half the damage for some reason?????? There were no item activations, no stat boosts, nothing.
I had an Abomasnow boss hit 5 sheer colds in a row in endless mode.
I thought it was some sort of guaranteed hit mechanic until I tried again.
Hey. Fuecoco sprigatito and popplio were the same 3 starters i picked of my first run of pokerogue. I won that run with my final team of skeledirge, meowscarada, primarina, excadrill, staraptor and indeedee. Congrats on the win
Only Eternabeam does more damage to mons over level 200 (to replace its original effect of dealing double damage to Dynamaxed mons), which means that Primarina would still have been able to avail of it without any fear.
At 6:16 the stats seem to be flipped when talking about gyarados.
6:16 you switched gyarados and mega gyarados’s stats
The best mon I have found that is easy to be able to readily get if you get the map is actually Weavile imo.. It requires help from other mons but it's high speed snd damage while having tripple axle absolutely decimstes M Rayquaza and Eternatus. The reason is that since its a multi hit move it can actually take out multiple health bars ticks with one move. It has a bade 120 attack and 125 speed so with either clearing the opponents tailwind or setting up your own you can outspeed it since M Rayquaza only has a 115 base speed and I believe you can also be 5 levels above it (?)
Pulse your training is complete. It's time to go break Werster's Pokemon Gaia record.
6:16 the stat labels are mixed up
Fantastic video! The idea is speedrunning this game from a fresh file is fascinating, particularly when I had so much trouble beating classic the first time.
The funny thing about the AI being so aggressive about switching is that it becomes extremely predictable. Stealth Rocks can be used to shred the rival battle because the AI tries to avoid a bad matchup at all costs, this also causes it to more or less announce exactly what its next move will be. If you know what team it has beforehand, then you can basically predict the AI's every move.
I find Meganium a surprisingly good out of the box starter. It's bulky; and gets Screens; Leech Seed; Synthesis in case you're still not healing enough and Giga Drain. Leech Seed is busted on bosses because it's % damage. And not much can really chunk a Meganium behind screens while it's Leech Seeding and Giga Draining you. Plus; there's quite a lot of biomes with Water and Ground types. I'd go so far to say they are the most common biomes. The thing about Biomes is you can just use something else to cover for places Meganium is bad in.
Meganium is a great candidate to give any Irons and Zincs you find too due to this; since higher defences essencially amply the effect of HP recovery.
Even against Mega Ray; since Meganium baits it in; you just Leech Seed and swap to a flying resist that scares it out and Mega Ray takes two turns of Seed damage and loses a HP bar.
It feels WEIRD to say "Chikorita is a good starter" but it legitimately is.
Doesn't Torterra just do all of that only better?
@@paulsmith9786torterra has a 4x weakness, also doesnt get screens (i dont think)
candy jar does not double, it adds a extra level
Keeping ice fang on gyarados could have allowed you to most likely two shot ivy's rayquaza and drampa
You probably thought of it and it’s slower or something but you can also hold the button to skip dialogue optics and also hold it to constantly attack iirc.
Either way great video! Please give your hand/wrist some rest so you don’t get carpal tunnel!
I had a rival who had double garchomps on my first winning run
I love stealth rock against the rival whenever I can get it
Entry hazards rip apart fights when you learn to abuse the AI's switching.
Wobbuffet XD
can confirm, without the map the game will always force you to loop through your worst possible biomes (looking at you dojo, the sone i seemingly speedran to in all my normal mono runs)
Did they change the champion, or is it still random?
No Prankster Cottonee for Leech Seed? Makes Boss Shields easy.
what's everyone's fav pokémon? mine's WOBBUFFET
It’s a rougelite not rougelike
couldn’t even play this normally, i speedran IMMEDIATELY
10:33 As someone named Iris, whose sona/OC has, retroactively, anyway, heavy basis on Yveltal, this is incredibly funny to me. Just last night, they did do an update to the champion teams (such as adding Megas to their teams), and I really hope they kept this LOL.
(EDIT: they replaced it with Reshiram... damn I can no longer joke that they put me in the game)
Can we use disable on enternatus moves?
Some of the best pokemon to grab for the big 3 challenging fights are mawile and tinkaton since their fairy/steel typings give rayquaza/mega rayquaza a rough time and eternatus’s first phase can’t actually hit you. Alternatively, if you get extremely lucky with items and come across dna splicers you can totally wall eternatus with a fairy steel fusion that includes dachsbundt and its well baked body ability giving it a fire immunity.
Just beat classic for the 1st time with mawile but his first form has flamethrower so it’s not totally immune
@@julioventura3641 really? guess they changed it at some point, it used to just have dynamax beam, sludge bomb, cosmic power and some other setup move in first form and then got flamethrower when you got to phase 2
You should try to speedrun the end of endless, it's possible to get under 6 hours
skeledirge with punk rock passive destroys everything In 1-2 hits up until wave 100
Mashing Enter + space negates the cooldown between inputs, works por backspace + X ig
Wobbuffet! My mind was sure that it was written as Wobbufet, I had to check twice. Go algorithm!
Why did you go for a pickup zigzagoon as it gets super fang and it can get free barries which makes the difficult dights so mych easier
I love a speedrun with no timer
Where did you find the biome map???
the wiki
granted ive been doing solo (or "ironmon" if you will) runs of classic, 1:28:xx is wild 😂 its usually like 60m to get to rayquaza rival 1, so for 145-200 to be 28 minutes (obviously it wasnt, but in reference to the IGTs (which includes egg hatching times) that ive seen) is bonkers
Goodluck with this run
Did you know frigibax is broekn in this game since high horse power, icicle crash and glaive rush was strong and dragon cance doesn't go away
You are still lucky, on my first clear i also battle Iris, she bring 3 dragon type, 3 terastilyze pokemon with one of them is g-max lapras. Btw the legendary she bring is reshiram😂
I think you needed to play around the switches more. The AI loves switching into better matchups.
I'm also pretty sure the increased damage is double damage dynamax cannon, which is dragon type, so fairy types are free to go above lvl 200.
I have a good run going at 191 I have yet to beat classic and I genuinely feel like a loser , I get to the final boss ( can’t spell his name ) and he just fucks me everytime in second phase , and I have all counters to poison dragon , I jus suck 😅
It’s like my 2 second week playing so maybe that’s why
How did you not figure out that you can just hold your A button. Please rest your hands.
I got to the eternatus with zacian only in 1.05.36 but lost cuz didnt got the rusty sword
“extremely”
Gyms can only start on floor 20 or 30, and every 20 floors after that, floor 10 is a normal wild pokemon boss, 25 is always a rival battle
The e4 members are from the same gen but the champion is always random
Popplio is really good, everything with high SpDef is, Meowscarada is kinda bad though, compared to many other starters... Always go bulky in this game. You should also try Blastoise and Torterra, they get shell smash and steamroll most of the game.
Technically the map doesnt always let you choose. Sometimes one area will have a 100% chance to go to another. Other times theres a 20% chance you could go to a more rare location but the map wont let you choose the rarer location
You can use a pc controller with pokerogue
Magnezone always helps in my experience
He switched up the normel garados and the megas stats
I've come to a similar conclusion for the three starters, but personally I like picking bulbasaur over sprigarito (even if sprigatito is super fast and compensates the other two) simply because having a gen1 starter guarantess that if you ever find a mega bracelet or g-max you'll have at least one eligible pokemon, which is pretty nice
The best thing on my best run was, that i destroyed Top 4 easily. But PokeRogue thought to just throw an Ass-Trainer between those Top 4 who simply countered my Team. I managed to win against him, but lost 4 Pokemon on that. Then my Team was weakened against the Champ because i had no more Money. This Game totally trolls sometimes 😂 Sometimes i also think that this Game is marked, how many times my Pokemon are missing important hits.
Can you ask some one to make a Speedrun catagory to this game
I think there is one, just not with the rules I used.
@@PulseEffects on the website
Oh boy, another Fuecoco run….
Dont need to click press space bar is okey in 5x
my man is crazy.
You can hold down enter
Wyanut? Wobbuffet!
Ngl it would be cool if they make 2 different pages
One for real starters for starters
And one for not starter pokemon or legendaries as starters
“Wobbuffet”
slight nitpick
when you showed gyardaos's stats, you reversed the normal with the mega
still and incredible video tho, keep it up
Popplio mentioned video liked
For some reason, I’m just absolutely horrible at pokerogue. I have multiple legendaries and I’ve played for Month. I have gotten to elite 4 twice and RN I’m on 195 rival battle.
Edit: when my older brother gets home I’ll ask him to beat it for me🗿
All I got to say is
Flamigo
Trust
Wobbuffet you are wonderful day sir and great vid 👏
"Wobbuffet"
Stop to read, Wynaut?
What comment is evolving!
Stop to read Wobbuffet.
Congratulations comment has evolved!
Literally get zacian hold space and then get a world record
Is it just me, or is the footage incredibly choppy?
I think he was slowing it down in certain parts to have time to explain things
koraidon, miraidon, zacian, latias and latios have been good for me to beat classic mode
Lol
how with latios, i've got one myself but cant beat eternatus. any advice
@@bomoose some passive %hp dmg, like salt cure on Garganacl or a way to take off its stat buffs (on my first succesfull attempt I had Galarian Weezing with clear smoke). Bonus points if you get Malamar with Topsy-Turvy to make Ethernatus super week
@@Mirogniew thanks for the advice! Maybe I will win now
@@bomoose dragon energy is an egg move. Teach it lister purge too. Build your team around it too with other pokemon like gargnacl with salt cure and cover Tinkaton
Wobbuffet
Woo buffet !
Based Popplio
I went back and stopped the vid because I saw "wobbuffet" on a piece of paper lol
Wobbuffet, right?
Wobbuffet (only true gamers know)
wobuffett
i hate to be that guy buuuut icy wind on primarina is a misplay
Icy wind
95% of 55 bsp = 52.25 base power * 2 = 104.5 base power
Moon blast
100% of 95 bsp = 95 bsp *1.5 (for stab) = 142.5 base power
moonblast is just better for eternatus unless if you are going for speed drops
First ever? For being the pokemon speedrunner guy you sure did 0 research on other people running it.
Nah. Maybe it's you who had no idea I procrastinationed for weeks on this while also practicing for the Pokemon North American International Championship before releasing it. 😄
Wobbuffet.
Wobuffet°
Wobbuffet!
is he really that good?
Wobbuffet
Uh? You aren't live😂
I don't have time today. I'm going to a Pokemon Tournament. 😭
@@PulseEffects RIP. Good luck! 🍀
Wobbufett
Wobuffet
My very first run was fue sprig and popp as well
hi
Cool