@@OutdoorBlues welcome to the internets sir. If you still value your morals, mind, soul, life and have respect for others, I suggest you turn off the apparatus you're currently using to access the internets before it's too late.
No kidding, the IBM towers back in the 90s had 1.1 or 1.2 mm thick cases, i can't confirm for sure because i don't have it around me, but that metal case was strong enough to support a broken beam once in an emergency. I've been transplanting my computers in it for years.
I have this safe... correction, I had this safe. It got jammed and the handle broke. There is a much easier way than using a circular saw. I cut the hinge bolts on both ends with a battery operated sawzall which took about 20 seconds each and was sooo much less messy. Just stick the blade in between the silver and the gray part of the hinge on both ends and let the sawzall do the work.
@@aserta I am trying to open a safe too and I even went and got a crowbar with a sharp end, but I couldn’t even get it in any part of the safe where the door is. There is a metal lip inside of it that prevents the crowbar from even getting in, I tried jamming it in with a hammer and sledge hammer but it didn’t work, and I also don’t wanna break what’s inside of it. Gonna go to Home Depot today to get one of these saws
"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer and today we're gonna be checking out the security of skulls or these security guards..." *VVVVVRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
Forget the saw, if I was in charge of anything with locks and I heard that voice I would probably crap myself. I know he would defeat all the locks. Even if He was handcuffed the locks would be defeated.
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Locks and safes need to go through a certification process to be sold as locks or safes. Any product that fails certification will be branded as a "lock-like" object, but not a real lock.
@@seanleith5312 Because it makes him easy money. His channel has millions of subscribers. His brand is more valuable than anything he could make as a lawyer. He also now sells the lockpicking tools so his business is expanding. Pretty soon he'll have his own line of padlocks and safes. The guy is taking over the market. Is that good enough reason?
Wood blades by design are expecting to need to cut through metal screws or nails, while they say it "can't" and "shouldn't" they know people will hit screws and nails hidden in boards and don't want to constantly have to warranty blades and saws because of it. Cutting through a metal sheet thinner than a razor blade is plenty easy, especially since that foam can be basically picked away with your finger nails.
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd that's why I store my valuables in my oven. point 1: its more fire proof, point 2: its harder to cut, point 3: its easier to open when I need (wouldn't easily deform from things crumbling on top of it)
@@williamjackson5942 - What's the matter, princess - can't take a joke? It would seem the only person "whining" here is you, my fragile little friend. Sack up, Sally, or the world is gonna eat you up.👍
@@ywgx7943 Hello Ywgx, hoping your day is going well. A joke has a structure (often) that consists of "the set up" which creates tension an interest. And a "punch line" ("Punch line" see 'Punch and Judy' ) which resolves the 'tension' from an unexpected perspective. In the example shown above, the set up is comparing a fluke(fish) to a (locking) safe. The punchline is the inference that when one cut open a fish there are "guts" (and guts are also used to infer strength and bravery), while on the other hand the 'safe' lacks the messy fish guts and also lacks the inferred strength. The 'delivery' is the fashion in which the 'set up' is made and respects the common practice of the longer the set up / the shorter the punchline. And of course the joke and it's delivery can be measured as good or bad in terms of 'faffs'. Faffs or laughs are the quantitative number of actual chuckles made and the length of time the chuckling time persist. Therefore: faffs(X) * T(ime) = humor Humor with a high number are sometimes known as "gags". And gags that work often and repeatedly are called "shtick' (a.k.a. 'bits) A shtick (Yiddish: שטיק) is a comic theme or gimmick. The word entered the English language from the Yiddish shtik (שטיק), in turn derived from German Stück and Polish sztuka (both ultimately from Proto-Germanic *stukkiją), all meaning "piece" or "thing"; note that "Theaterstück" is the German word for Play (theatre) (and is a synonym of "Schauspiel", literally "viewing play" in contrast to the "Singspiel"). Sometime in performance it is necessary to give the audience permission to laugh or introduce that a joke is to follow. This is done to avoid unwanted tension that the joke can not resolve. For Example: (This will be your personal punchline Mr. Ywgx, wait for it!) Your Punchline: Isn't Naah Indian Bread? (LAFFS and Giggles!!!) Notice the brevity of the punchline is just 4 words. (this line is an example of "beating a dead horse".) Well that's all I have for you today, if you do have any question please put them below (this line is an example of humor thru repetition).
Any time someone would call my shop asking about a safe opening, during the conversation, if the brand name "Sentry" came up, i would immediately reprice my quote as a standard opening rather than a safe opening. Then when they asked why it suddenly got cheaper, i would let them know, "That's Sentry brand. It's not a 'safe', it's just a lock box. They're so easy to get into, I'd feel bad charging you for opening a real safe."
billtheunjust I'd say that the real utility is keeping important papers and such safe from house fires and water damage (splash from fire hoses and such, probably not from literally being submerged underwater for any length of time) but as far as security goes, it's no better than a metal filing cabinet with a lock on it. Enough to stop klepto teenagers or a sneak thief who gets in the house while you're asleep but any real thief who has a little time and can afford to make some noise (homeowner isn't home) will get into it without much difficulty.
"Provides fire protection, water protection and security protection" Does what it says on the tin - it would seem you are quite well protected against fire, water and security.
Gotta hand it to Master Lock management, always consistent, there would no point to exceed customer expectation as that would not change the brand reputation.
Me half paying attention: did I just hear him say he’s going to try to cut into a safe with a circular saw? A literal second later: that cuts smoother than my circular saw on wood!
@Nobody Knows So since ur posting the same "FIRE-rant" in several threads ill answer in several of them, cos u clearly like to twist facts..! So if u didnt see the whole vid ill just mention the obvious here. LPL literally says: "According to the company website it provides SECURITY protection, FIRE protection and WATER protection. Now i cant speak to the fire and water protection, but as for 'SECURITY' - THATS the reason im making this video." ... "...confusing 'cos ... Its a heavy box. Its called a 'SAFE'. It looks like a SAFE. It operates like a SAFE." ... "If we read this manual we can see that it explicitly anticipates that owners will keep valuables like jewelry and watches in it." But yeah NK, u focus on the fire part of it... X-]
LMAO, "Zoomed in on the Master Lock Logo" What junk, and the funny part is portable safes are just that "Portable" the thief can take it home and open it when they want.
@Tyrant Patrol it's a portable safe 😩 you don't get bolts .... or bolt holes cause it's portable ..... PORTABLE!!!!!!!! Just get it dude why won't you get it
These safes are not designed for being burglary-proof - they're designed for fire resistance. The keypad and lock are just for deterrent measures. You would keep things in here that would be a hassle to replace in the event of a fire, but not necessarily of much value. Things like passports, birth certificates, titles, etc. You definitely do not want to keep a lot of cash or jewelry in these, keep those in an iron safe or preferably in a safe deposit box at your bank.
But bolt it down in your house in a cupboard or something similar and then what use would this attack method be. This safe looks like its built better than most American homes.
I want to disagree. I put mine on my kitchen counter and lock my bread and doughnuts in it. Not one mouse has broken into it, to steal my stash. It does a fine job.
Me too, I think he was using the left side of the plate to guide along that seam. He must have known how deep to cut off that line too, I'm sure he makes no presumptions.
@@scottashe984 on the other hand they advertise them saying it's a "solid steel construction" which is kind of misleading, because people think that means it's made of "solid steel", where what they mean is "solid construction that involves steel"...
And now I apply a good coating of Flex Tape to the cut safe! Not only does it cover up the cut well enough, it also increases the defensive properties of the safe, thanks to Flex Tape's strong adhesive properties! Might wanna change the lock mechanism though, heard not much from this brand....
Excellent demo of a consumer "safe". I learned this lesson a decade ago when someone used an axe to break into a similar safe at my Church. I volunteered to find a relacement, and fortunately met a used safe dealer in western NJ. He gave me an excellent education on safes, and showed me his collection of profesionally violated high security safes, such as those you might find at a diamond dealer or a pawn shop. In any case I came away with a nice used TL-15 safe, which is rated to withstand a professional attack with tools for 15 minutes. Although not much bigger than the "safe" it replaced, it weighed about 900 lbs, and we bolted it to the floor. One should keep in mind that while burgulary rated safes have more resistance to say, a lawyer with a skil saw, they are probably not rated for fire resistance. An option is to place a fire resistant safe or storage box within the burglar safe to achieve both. Bottom line, if the safe doesnt weigh a half ton or more, its probably not burglar resistant. And, after seeing thick steel plate safes filled with concrete embedded with carbide chips that had been violated, I realized that one must weigh the risk agains the cost of a good safe
"ok here we have the luxury version, 10 inch steel plates, 8 lock cylinders, integrated tempering alarm, internal power suppl-" "yeah... uhm... that's out of my price range, what about that one over there?" "oh that's just a foam-box covered in sheet metal." "i'll take it!"
Considering the first one is a safe aimed to combat thieves and the second is a fire-safety lockbox aimed to keep documents and stuff like that safe from housefire or flood, well, I'd rather take the fire-box to my house and leave the luxury safe to bank. I like to call it the 'oh god the house is on fire' test, akin to the Chieftain's 'oh god the tank is on fire' test in that when shit hits the pooper and you have need to emergency exit your house, how long does it take to gather essential important things like indentification, certificates, graduation documents, etcetra that would be threathened by fire, flood or other natural disaster? Opening a safety vault presumably located in your cellar for maximum security, is far slower than just grabbing a file container or perhaps a small lockbox from your bedroom, which can handle rough treatment and can withstand fire for a while if you need to leave it behind during your escape. I can grab the file box from beside my bed, throw it out of the window, nab a pair of slippers and toss my bedsheet over the broken window's frame to keep me safe from glass shards while I climb over it and get out of the house in less than a minute with clothes, 'shoes', phone, credit cards and my identification papers, which I consider a passable test. For me the 'oh god the house is on fire' test is more important than 'oh god there is a robber in the house' test since I live in area where house fire is around hundred times more likely than a robber entry, but hey hou.
You get the better safe you hide. And then you get a cheap one that thieves steal. And it is the one that has a glitter bomb rigged to go off when someone opens the door. BOOM! GLITTERY! Is it evil? Well, yes but really if I wanted them dead. I'd be home and shot them.
@Swampy dude clearly bought one and is upset that he feels stupid now. He's grasping at straws giving others bad advice who may or may not have drastically different security needs than he. Not everything can be kept in a bank. Just because he doesn't have anything valuable enough to justify a proper safe doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't either.
@@ArielNMz step one is checking anything you have access to first. Safe come last if you have to do destructive opening. It is also prefered to load the whole safe up and bring it back to work with if you can.
@@anhduc0913 yes but if you can't open the toolboxes or the safe you'll take the safe because it's easier to remove and likely has more valuable stuff in it
not a good idea because some thieves actually steal tools because sometimes they can be very valuable especially power tools or more popular brands of hand tools
Not at all. There are some materials that are almost impossible to saw through and they're mainly clay+concrete(with some additives) so it would be mainly dust if there was a tool good enough to saw through it
@Chase S Commie cucks who cry about capitalism are not a solution, and fail to understand that blaming capitalism for people/companies that are unscrupulous does not somehow mandate a "government takeover" of production and property resources.
The thing is, these kinds of safes they market are against burglars who go through your draws and cabinets, snatch what they can of value and take off. This will prevent a quick snatch and grab break in; however, even a higher quality and more durable safe will not stop a prepared thief who knows what they're up against. These safes are based upon the assumption the thief didn't prepare to bring tools beforehand with the expectation of having to breach a safe. In general, it does what it's designed to do.
Exactly. Nobody expects a cheap Walmart safe to slow down anyone determined. It defends against the lazy and opportunistic. This does that and offers fire protection at an affordable price. Your cost is directly proportional to the amount of time and effort needed to defeat your protections.
Or makes it easy! hey its a safe there is everything of value lets grab it and run. Like atleats you need to secure the safe to something for it to properly work. But then again just a custom hiding place and you have the same thing expect fire protections but then again you can add that to your hiding place..... Never saw such a weak safe. That metal part is even thinner then a car panel LOL.
@@Handle-Unavailable-x What it means is your level of protection is proportional to your cost. How long will it take a determined attacker to defeat? The more you spend the higher that time value will be. This safe protects you from fire and people without tools. You want more protection pay for heavier safes and thicker steels.
@@xsynergist You totally right good description of it, spot on mate!! But at it cost what i can find online retialed for : 240 dollars. For that money its then better to build a home made fire resistant custom hiding spot. This "safe" is more a protected fire box then a actually safe in my opinion. This so called safe is just gonna stand out so the thief knows what to grab and the run away. again in my opinion.
@@heroslippy6666 For many uses, "fireproof" is defined in code, usually fulfilling its designed for a certain amount of time with a certain temperature fire without additional oxidants added. It does not mean impossible, and can at times even mean ablative. Just because you could squirt some ClF3 on it and get it to burn, doesn't mean it isn't going to be considered fireproof. I haven't had to get things certified as bulletproof or ensure that an assembly is so, but I would guess that it has a similar codified definition somewhere.
to be fair, the safe is small enough that one person can carry it away without effort. also: the metal is thin enough that he could have achieved the same result with a boltcutter and a pickaxe.
I love how he isn't even using a concrete saw! Please also note the external pin hinge. MAJOR weakness there, too. However, if it is specifically stated as "fire protection for your valuables" rather than "security for etc" then maybe they have a case. I had one of these for a while. The solenoid start to fail. So I got out the mallet and helped it open one last time, then took it down to a locksmith and bought a real safe from him with a four number rotary combination. Never been happier.
I literally thought this was made out of plastic by the way it bounced when you turned it, but considering how thin the metal was it might as well be. And of COURSE it's made by Master Lock.
@Nobody Knows right, this type of save is usually kept hidden inside houses to keep important documents. In case of a fire, they can still be retrieved. What needs to be accounted for is how heavy it is to give thief some problem carrying it.
I usually enjoy your videos and while it's interesting to see that it's not a safe like a bank vault (even if it were solid metal, it could still be carried away), the main point would be to keep documents safe in case of fire.
Lol man I forgot my code awhile back and just took a crowbar to it and prided the side off till the door opened. Really I just buy these to keep things out of reach of my kids lol
That's not illegal. LPL didn't say that he would "open it without a skill" attack. He said "low skill attack". He's a lawyer, wouldn't make such a rookie mistake.
Much more fascinating than the ease with which this safe was sawed in half is the unholy precision of your sawing to almost perfectly hit your starting point. Also that slight grin in your voice while zooming in on "Master Lock Company" just completely killed me. I can barely write because I'm still laughing :D
@@ArsyaUtomo If you watch many of these you find Master Locks have notorious issues like being easy to pick despite solid construction or their one "Lock Out, Tag Out" lock that has a relatively pick resistant core but a weak body and shackle.
Common lock picking tools: "Please let me in." LPL's preferred tools, combined with his skills and know-how: "You're letting me in." This video: "I WASN'T ASKING, YOU ARE LETTING ME IN NOW."
Yeah, he just carried it off to do that at home at his leisure without having to worry about getting caught. I think you can cut through the micro thin this thing with a simple hacksaw - cut through the shell, pull or pry it off it off , then break apart the foam with a machete.
@@clambroth1923 You could just as easily open it without tools, if you don't care about actually harming whats inside of it. Just drop it from a reasonable height, the sheet metal will bend and you should be able to peel the rest of it off. Then you only have the fire isolation stuff left, which you can basically scratch out if you wanted to, stuff is quite brittle.
@@needmorespaceformyna 2:32 - just roll the seam, use chisel to roll the seam out, peel back both sides, jig-saw to get to the inside... watched a lock-smith do it to a safe purchased at an estate-auction for the purchaser on site... took less time that LPL with the circular saw.
Teknikul Righter Would be much louder. No cheap insulation to deaden sound. Metal definitely thicker then this POS. I have a couple of Stack on's and for the money they're pretty hard to beat for basic security.
Seeing the name Master Lock LLC on a security product is kin, to seeing that Berkshire Hathaway is the owner of the company you're looking to purchase a product from. i.e. Duracell Batteries. I've got old and new versions of American Lock #700's. My how has that product changed, and not for the better.
@@notpoliticallycorrect4774 or you could build one yourself into your house wall with concrete, thick sheet of metal and a mechanical lock mechanism that isn't obvious. Your classical decoration Acting as a lever, connected by ropes and all that. Stick a dummy lock on the sheet of metal. I doubt the average robber will figure out whats going on or if he does, he will have to make a mess of the place to enter the safe. 🤷♂️
Yeah everything is made so cheap it's ridiculous to even try to find anything that is actually good. The companies use the cheapest materials. Then use the cheapest labor. And put it together as fast as possible while just barely staying in the range of their own standards. While taking shortcuts to avoid lawsuits. They probably spend more time worming their way into loopholes than actually using their resources in an efficient way.
I had a safe similar to this for fire protection and to discourage a nosy house cleaner or guest. It never occurred to me that it would provide security against a determined burglar.
Yeah I have something from this brand as well. I definitely don’t think about keeping valuables in there, just important documents I want protected from fire.
Nothing will.. A circular saw with a metal cutting blade can cut through 1/2 inch plate just as easily. So I'm not sure how this is showing anything special. The main thing is that it's not heavy and can be carried away; and I don't think it has holes to bolt it down.
@@stonemanbytes Nice.. But like I said, you can cut through that same safe if it were 1/2" steel with that same saw and it only takes about 2x or 3x the time.. So only a few minutes.
they say safe but if you look up the UL listing they are listed under the category for "Residential Security Containers" (TL-5 rating meaning it has to withstand 5 mins against an attacker armed with a screwdriver and hammer) not for safes which have insane security requirements to get a UL real "safe" rating (class B, class C, TL-15, TL-30 and even higher) also if you think thats crazy most gun "safes" are also "RSC" listed not real safes either a total scam that needs more awareness.
screwdriver and hammer? i get why youd rate a doorlock or a padlock like that but what are you supposed to do with those on a safe? there so not the right toold for the job unless you wanna justt hit it and hope it opens in which case 5 minutes is pretty pathetic
+Sarge You can easily cut sheet metal with a hammer and a screwdriver...you lay the driver nearly on it's side where you want to cut, then smack the side of the driver blade tip with the hammer, and work your way along the material you want to cut like a can opener. It doesn't look pretty, but it will get you in this safe no problem.
Yep. That's why, when buying security devices, it's important to ask ourselves what we're protecting the items against so that we can find a device with the proper rating. I've bought Sentry Safes, before; but it's mostly for fire / water protection while my security concerns are more about deterring busybodies, curious pet-sitters, and low-grade thieves. It's similar to how I'm not that worried about using cheaper locks to protect my sweaty, nasty gym clothes while showering but I invest much more in a lock for a storage unit or shed containing items of greater value. Someone snooping in lockers at the gym is a different kind of security threat from someone looking for a payday in the self-storage yard.
That's not a scam, you answered your own comment. The problem lies in the typical consumer, who buys something based on a price tag and a pretty picture on the outside of a box. It's the consumer's responsibility to research the things they purchase, and there is ESPECIALLY no one else to blame when that data is easily obtainable, such as on a UL listing.
Unless you keep your wallet, goverment id, credit cards, and/or vehicle keys in the gym locker, in which case it could be potentially more valuable than your storage unit / shed.
@@TakeTurnsGaming For 200$ no one, unless you mean a decent safe to store unimportant cheap stuff. Add a couple of zeros to your prize and you get something decent. Two tings is important for the great safe: 1) As impossible to move as you can afford. 2) Take as long a time to break into as you can afford. If the safe cant be bolted safely to the building would I not go below a ton in weight. And minimum 30 minutes of brutal entry is also a minimum.
If I'm being honest, I was more concerned about the saw giving kickback and hurting you than the shoddy construction of the safe. Kickback is no joke with skill saws, they like to go back and to the left, right to where your hand was. Last major kickback I had almost caught me on the inside of my thigh, would have killed me. Bought a bandsaw after that for ripping thick material.
My aunt had a cheap sentry safe lockbox with her birth certificate, social security card, backup car key, car title, rainy day fund etc. She was freaking out because she lost her key for it. My cousin picked it up at about chest height and dropped it on the back patio, it sprung right open. She was dumb founded. She had believed it to be top security.
@isiunavailable i think this video shows that it isn't such bs or unbelievable. my parents have a safe from the 1800's, even c4 probably couldn't get into it, as it weighs about 500lbs empty, actual steel, not some dried milk powder. sandwiched between aluminum and plastic. this is really just a fire safe, not a valuables safe.
@@LygerTheCLaw but even the weakest of lock attacks would get it pretty quick, unless it has a more modern door with locking bars and a modern key system or code
This is why you mount the safe inside a cabinet or closet. Then you can’t roll the safe around. We only keep documents in our safe (deed to house, vehicle titles, birth certificates, etc).
I'd love to see a battery operated circular saw using a Diablo metal cutting blade up against a full size reputable gun safe. Those blades cut rebar and 1/4" steel like it's wood. People need to realize your stuff isn't protected. All a safe does is keep honest people honest.
@@gregsicinski8138 *Gotta look at the TL rating* which encompass tools like you described and much more. TL provides a summary of all other ratings combined except protection for contents from fire. example - some ratings show resistance to a cutting torch, but TL encompasses torches and everything else commonly available. To get a rating, the lab gets plans of the safe inside and out including all materials used, look it over closely, and pick what they think are the best ways to attack and the fastest - the resulting rating is how much time it took them to break into the safe (TL-15 is 15+ minutes). Note the time is from experienced experts using information a burglar isn't likely to have. Most burglars will take much longer. TL-5 is OK for home, will deter most thieves who just look for a quick smash and grab and out the door in well under 5 minutes - no need to lug around heavy tools, linger, and greatly risk getting caught when they can net jut as much breaking into 2 more homes. TL-10 is better if you have a lot of valuables and puts it out of reach of most thieves unless they specifically know you have a safe and came prepared. Some might try anyway but will give up when they aren't making any headway after a few minutes. TL-15 is common for jewelry and upper end watch stores and would be the upper end for any home application. I have a TL-30 but this and anything higher is overkill for a home. I bought it used for the size to hold document binders in a fireproof environment. I was robbed - it was in the 1st room the thieves entered. They didn't even try to attack the safe, just pulled out the top drawers in the bedroom dressers which had nothing, and exited empty handed without bothering to check the rest of the home (I have several large pure silver decorative items they missed but are usually a target of thieves) - probably spent more time climbing in and out the window than searching for loot. Gun safes still have value - almost all professional thieves are looking to get in and out of the home in well under 5 minutes, so they will usually skip a safe unless thy are confident they can break into it in less than 5 minutes with the tools they have with them, and as I found they act as a deterrence from a thorough search of the home - after they find the bedroom empty, they assume anything of value is in the safe. Also most safes have fire protection. The small safes like this or what you buy at a retail chain are no deterrence to theft (2 pry bars would have probably popped the door as fast as the power saw), and when tested under fire they failed when they fell off the table and the door popped open. Another big gain is to hide the safe. Most thieves search the bedrooms, kitchen, and home office so hide the safe someplace else, the rest of the home is just a walk through scanning for items in plain sight. It isn't like they are going to take the time looking for a hidden wall cavity in the basement-garage-hallway-laundry room-utility closet-etc. or enter the attic or crawl space. Consider having just a hidden wall cavity behind a mirror or wall mounted bookcase (or something else secured to the wall) with a well made, tight, hidden latch to open. You can't steal what you don't know is there. Needs to be something that is permanently attached - thieves do check behind pictures and wall hangings, and book cases that roll across the floor will eventually leave marks. For an apartment to hide small items, I made a dummy 2 gang receptacle box with the cover held by magnets, cut out the back and sides of the box not used for mounting, and made an internal chamber. No thief is going to start checking for fake electrical receptacles. If looking, I recommend shopping used safes. They go for a fraction of a new one, but it isn't like they wear out from lots of use.
With a "circular saw" I am one of the few (retired) tradesman left that doesn't use the term "skilsaw" . Looks like you actually did use a Skilsaw (brand name) there! Yet you know the proper term to use in regards to the tool. Great video!
To be fair, when I was in the safe business the term "safe" always referred to a product that was used to protect something from fire. The box wasn't designed to defeat burglars. If storing valuables, you would use a stand alone money chest or a money chest incorporated into the safe. In reality, the lock was only intended to keep the safe from popping open if the safe fell through the floor in a fire, with a security level mainly intended to keep curious fingers and eyes off of the documents in the safe. Sentry safes are on the low end and would frequently pop open if dropped on a hinge corner.
This might make sense to a guy in the safe business, but it is not how safes are marketed to consumers and what consumers are led to believe they are intended for. Functionally, the distinction you mentioned doesn't exist.
@@Ninjaferret666 But anyone can walk off with a 90lb safe, no? For me, it would be reasonable to assume protection from fire is what the safe is offering. I mean, if someone can walk off with it, it's not really a "safe" like a bank safe. Having said that, who knows what kind of fire test they put these through.
They claim 1700 deg F for one hour. While most people don't buy these for fire protection, I did make use of it, everything inside was intact after being in a house fire.
@@spiritualcramp8000 It's a FIRE Safe, with some additional lock security. It's constructed to reduce the rate that thermal energy is transferred thru the safe and those to important things you have inside the safe so hopefully they are not lost in a house fire.
Craigfield who would spend money to buy a safe that protects stuff from a fire and not from a thief? and i wish the lawyer throws this crap into a fire to see how much is this really ''fire safe'' i bet it melts in a few minutes.
Have you tested any safes that have an actual burglary rating? Would love to see if a safe rated with an Underwriter Laboratory rating of tl-15 actually takes more than 15 minutes to break open. Not to mention how you would attack the safe. That would be a great video.
spiritual cramp Did you not bother to click the timestamp in that comment where you can clearly see the blade? Or did you just decide being insulting was more fun?
@@spiritualcramp8000 How about I wont speak, German, French and Spanish and you make the world a better place by not speaking my mother tongue anymore. Deal?
It's not a bad product but it's been irresponsibly marketed. In reality it should be marketed as effectively a lockable metal filing cabinet that protects documents from fire and flood.....and I'm not even sure about the flood protection, it might just be against splash (like from firefighter hoses putting out the fire or from water damage from being outside in wet weather conditions but not actually able to be submerged in water for any appreciable length of time.
Exactly my first thought when I saw it. Masterlock is well known for not being any kind of master in the context of locks (they make products that mostly keep out honest people) so it makes sense their Sentry doesn't even sentry.
@@22steve5150 I have one (not this model, but similar) and I agree, it's not a bad product, if you are using it appropriately. For me, I wanted something that would resist a fire so that if my house burned down I'd still likely have my most important documents intact, and would provide more deterrence to theft than leaving things in my dresser drawer. Would I have liked to have something that was also near impenetrable? sure, but I couldn't justify the price difference for a "real" safe for my purposes. I did however bolt it to the concrete floor, and put it in an out of the way place that would be unlikely to be found and opened without spending more time than I hope my alarm system allows a burglar to spend. As for waterproof. The company selling it claims that it is submersible, however I have my doubts. Even more so if you follow their instructions for bolting it down which involve drilling holes for the bolts in the bottom of the unit. That said, I put the important documents in ziploc bags inside it, and I also siliconed the bolts to try to reduce water inflow. For my purpose, I'd happily do it all over again.
This particular safe, which I've owned in the past, isn't really designed for security, it's designed more for resistance to fire. The typical burglar won't be using any noisy cut-off saw, they'd use a prybar or hammer. I'd like to see how well it does if attacked by one of those. Thanks for the video!
There are pictures on the net of these units pryed and smashed open. But realistically, anything that can be carried away will be entered. If installed securely in a wall, most thieves will move on to easier targets.
If a thief got access to your home, they'd probably lug the entire safe away. Meaning that, yes, even just owning this and filling it up with chocolate money will both: a) ensure the thief will be lured by the low hanging fruit and make him carry away this heavy thing possibly restricting his choices (i.e. he might forgo that expensive TV or PC because he didn't have time and he choose the safe) b) you bet your ass some special moments will happen when he open the safe just to find a bunch of chocolate money And I too think this safe is just designed for fire and water protection. Which is actually very reassuring to have! Only gripe I have with it is how it is advertised: it shouldn't be advertised as a regular safe would be.
I understand the idea of having a fire-safe, but if a couple inches of insulating foam is all takes to qualify, wouldn't it just be better to insulate a filing cabinet?????
Yeah, that's probably more accurate although selling it that way may not be as fruitful. If you hid this, or secured it really well in a wall or to the floor it would be a lot more secure.
To be fair it is sold as a 'Fire safe' and the insualtion is to, protect the contents from heat. If the safe is bolted in place, the average house burglar is not going to be carrying power tools, nor wanting to make noise. These safes are at the bottom end of the consumer market and anyone with valuables would be looking to pay much more.
I would like to see a list of locks and safes that you DO recommend for various purposes, all it one place. That would make for a great quick reference guide when going to buy something
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Last 10 seconds: Zooms in on words "Master Lock" while never mentioning it...
lpl is savage.
I like how the sticker isn't even placed right in that zoom
Good catch!
So fucking savage
At least the lock part stayed intact, they never mentioned anything about making good safes
@@MansBestFriend_
So you have to specifically say, "my products are good" in order to be held accountable?
Hmm... Seems like an easy loophole.
Yelling loudly over the sound of buzzsaws: "OKAY, THAT'S A CLICK OUT OF SIDE 1..."
lol!
lol
Been on a LPL binge, and this is the funniest thing I've read in 3 hours.
NorthWood agreed, I’ve seen many of these jokes but this was a particularly good one lol
Side two is binding...…..and we're done.
The quick Zoom on "Masterlock" at the end had me cracking up lmao
also explained alot on the corner cutting, literally xD
The fire protection looks like the inside of a 3 musketeers bar, & this video brings a whole new meaning to hot knife through butter analogy
Ha yes - you can hear the smile in his voice as he does it 😆
Good ol master lock strikes again!🤣
Hencho en Mexico
The hardest part of getting into this safe was finding an extension cord.
you can cut it with an hacksaw it would take time but after looking at that metal thickness it's not impossible lol
Flexvolt baby!!
The blade guard gave him some pause.
Brutalll
That thick of metal, you could probably use tin snips.
The zoom on the Master Lock logo and the slight laughter in his voice at the end got me dying
Me too, that was very subtle and funny :)
It's Master Failure 😀
The sun was a little too bright in the video so he had to throw some shade
Also: Made in Mexico.
"They're not sending their best." :D
Had to laugh 😁
You totally don't understand the concept this secure safe. The thief cuts it open, inhales the dust and dies of a respiratory disease.
Kenneth Southard gas mask? Wind? Patience? Hold your breath?
@@OutdoorBlues r/whoosh
@@OutdoorBlues welcome to the internets sir. If you still value your morals, mind, soul, life and have respect for others, I suggest you turn off the apparatus you're currently using to access the internets before it's too late.
I want to call the internets police
For a good time call (303) 499-7111, or in Hawaii call (808) 335-4363.
Phone numbers are for WWV and WWVH time broadcasts. Get it?
If you rephrase the intro and conclusion this could be an ad for "Amazing circular saw, cuts through safe like BUTTER!"
Because the safe is made of butter
@@vanjamenadzer butter’s actually tough when it comes out of the fridge, this shit was hot trash
That is an insult to butter!
@@TheRangaTanGaming yeah, but the safe do not come from the fridge, so you cant compare it with butter xp
Yeah i think i have the same model saw, judging from appearances, so HEY - i have a saw that can cut a safe in half! O.O
Love how the blade guard on the saw slows him down more than the safe itself
No matter what you are doing with A circular saw, the blade guard will be what slows you down the most.
@@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 kind of the point of a blade guard in a way
@@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 Thats why I take them off, I swear I almost hurt myself more when there's a safety
@@shaddoty That is severely moronic with a handheld circular saw...
Safer, pun intended, to use an abrasive blade.
ive owned computer cases with thicker metal
oath
ive had headphone packages that were harder too open
you are right. the sentry safes like that are fire safety boxes (with some protection against a fire) that's why they use thin sheet steel
a plastic storage tub filled with foam would take longer to get in
No kidding, the IBM towers back in the 90s had 1.1 or 1.2 mm thick cases, i can't confirm for sure because i don't have it around me, but that metal case was strong enough to support a broken beam once in an emergency. I've been transplanting my computers in it for years.
I love the zoom in on MASTER LOCK at the end
I lol'd. And you can hear it in his voice too, he almost burst into laughter.
Exactly. It cracked me up!🤣
That said it all, really.
That was hilarious! :D
This is even more relevant now after his newer videos hahaha
I laughed out loud when he casually zoomed in on the label at the end... 😂😂
Exactly
Jack of one trade, master of none.
Masterlock
Mastersuck? 🤣
Ha!!!! Same here. And I even read your comment first. Lol wow. I had no idea
I have this safe... correction, I had this safe. It got jammed and the handle broke. There is a much easier way than using a circular saw. I cut the hinge bolts on both ends with a battery operated sawzall which took about 20 seconds each and was sooo much less messy. Just stick the blade in between the silver and the gray part of the hinge on both ends and let the sawzall do the work.
Anything and everything is only as strong as it's weakest link
A crowbar would pop this open like an oyster.
@@aserta I wasn't strong enough to pop it open with just a crowbar unfortunately. Sawzall made it effortless
Exposed hinges and safe in the same sentence is just oh my.
@@aserta I am trying to open a safe too and I even went and got a crowbar with a sharp end, but I couldn’t even get it in any part of the safe where the door is. There is a metal lip inside of it that prevents the crowbar from even getting in, I tried jamming it in with a hammer and sledge hammer but it didn’t work, and I also don’t wanna break what’s inside of it. Gonna go to Home Depot today to get one of these saws
imagine being a graveyard shift bank guard and you hear "this is the lockpicking lawyer..." and a circular saw powering up right behind you
"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer and today we're gonna be checking out the security of skulls or these security guards..." *VVVVVRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
Forget the saw, if I was in charge of anything with locks and I heard that voice I would probably crap myself. I know he would defeat all the locks. Even if He was handcuffed the locks would be defeated.
Lock picking lawyer gets bit by a zombie, human race is over.
"In any case, that's all I have for you today. If you do have any questions or comments about this, please put them below. If you liked this video and would like to see more like it, please subscribe. And as always, have a nice day. Thank you!"
The tool Bosnian bill and I made*
"This is the lockpicking Lawyer, and today, I have had enough of this shit."
Locks and safes need to go through a certification process to be sold as locks or safes.
Any product that fails certification will be branded as a "lock-like" object, but not a real lock.
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He call himself a lawyer, why does a lawyer do this kind of stuff?
I read that in his voice lol
@@seanleith5312 Because it makes him easy money. His channel has millions of subscribers. His brand is more valuable than anything he could make as a lawyer. He also now sells the lockpicking tools so his business is expanding. Pretty soon he'll have his own line of padlocks and safes. The guy is taking over the market. Is that good enough reason?
The zoom into Master Lock at the end is beautiful
That's it. I'm shorting Master Lock stock.
I was hoping someone that wasn’t a simpleton would notice what he did. It was hilarious.
God damn
I’m sure someone with your pfp really knows how to steal wealth tho.
First thing that hit me was 'Made in Mexico'.
A master lock company! Funny. The management must be so proud of themselves. Another great vid from LPL.
can you name quality manufatures for mini safes? Most videos and articels you find with google or youtube seem sponsored.
@@kidaria1333 build your own with concrete and rebar.
so... the biggest impediment to cutting it was ... getting the blade guard out of the way
@4estrose Shit really? I was wondering what that blade is? Did not know this was possible.
@4estrose the safe isn't even metal why would he need a meta blade?
Wood blades by design are expecting to need to cut through metal screws or nails, while they say it "can't" and "shouldn't" they know people will hit screws and nails hidden in boards and don't want to constantly have to warranty blades and saws because of it.
Cutting through a metal sheet thinner than a razor blade is plenty easy, especially since that foam can be basically picked away with your finger nails.
With metal that thin a good utility knife might cut through it.
The irony of it.
Also blade guards don't have to be like this. My new saw never gets the guard caught up.
The outer metal casing is so thin that this safe probably doesn't even qualify as "slash proof".
They can certainly claim it does in marketing, though...
Yeah those saw blades aren't meant to cut through steel so easily lol
@@marshallsober If it's been through a fire, you might *have to* to get your valuables out. The lock mechanism probably wouldn't work anymore . . .
@@robbruce2128 good point, considering its only purpose is to protect valuables i the event of a fire... it fails if they're trapped.
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd that's why I store my valuables in my oven. point 1: its more fire proof, point 2: its harder to cut, point 3: its easier to open when I need (wouldn't easily deform from things crumbling on top of it)
I'm most impressed that his lines met.
He's on another level, man.
He needs a nerf
He used the left edge of the saw as a guide (though he got wobbly on the 3rd cut) - notice it lines up with the front edge of the safe.
"Low skill attack"
:c
Exactly. As a weekend carpenter, that was my first thought when he was on the last section. 😉
LPL: "I bought one for the sole purpose of experimenting."
Sentry Safe: Oh God, no...
That's one weird lockpick. It also spins really quickly too.
full auto assault lockpick
@@skatefreak666666 - Full Semi-Auto, if you're a liberal.😆
🤣🤣
@@thehifiguy945 Thanks for whining snowflake!
@@williamjackson5942 - What's the matter, princess - can't take a joke? It would seem the only person "whining" here is you, my fragile little friend. Sack up, Sally, or the world is gonna eat you up.👍
"Let's just cut it in half again to show it wasnt a fluke"
Thank you for this comment
A Fluke is a fish. this was a safe. just one cut is necessary to see it is not a fish.
@@PrincetonTV u ever heard of a joke or nah
@@ywgx7943 Hello Ywgx, hoping your day is going well. A joke has a structure (often) that consists of "the set up" which creates tension an interest. And a "punch line" ("Punch line" see 'Punch and Judy' ) which resolves the 'tension' from an unexpected perspective.
In the example shown above, the set up is comparing a fluke(fish) to a (locking) safe.
The punchline is the inference that when one cut open a fish there are "guts" (and guts are also used to infer strength and bravery),
while on the other hand the 'safe' lacks the messy fish guts and also lacks the inferred strength.
The 'delivery' is the fashion in which the 'set up' is made and respects the common practice of the longer the set up / the shorter the punchline.
And of course the joke and it's delivery can be measured as good or bad in terms of 'faffs'.
Faffs or laughs are the quantitative number of actual chuckles made and the length of time the chuckling time persist.
Therefore:
faffs(X) * T(ime) = humor
Humor with a high number are sometimes known as "gags".
And gags that work often and repeatedly are called "shtick' (a.k.a. 'bits)
A shtick (Yiddish: שטיק) is a comic theme or gimmick. The word entered the English language from the Yiddish shtik (שטיק), in turn derived from German Stück and Polish sztuka (both ultimately from Proto-Germanic *stukkiją), all meaning "piece" or "thing"; note that "Theaterstück" is the German word for Play (theatre) (and is a synonym of "Schauspiel", literally "viewing play" in contrast to the "Singspiel").
Sometime in performance it is necessary to give the audience permission to laugh or introduce that a joke is to follow. This is done to avoid unwanted tension that the joke can not resolve.
For Example:
(This will be your personal punchline Mr. Ywgx, wait for it!)
Your Punchline:
Isn't Naah Indian Bread?
(LAFFS and Giggles!!!)
Notice the brevity of the punchline is just 4 words. (this line is an example of "beating a dead horse".)
Well that's all I have for you today, if you do have any question please put them below (this line is an example of humor thru repetition).
@@PrincetonTV did u copy paste this or do u have nothing to do
Any time someone would call my shop asking about a safe opening, during the conversation, if the brand name "Sentry" came up, i would immediately reprice my quote as a standard opening rather than a safe opening.
Then when they asked why it suddenly got cheaper, i would let them know, "That's Sentry brand. It's not a 'safe', it's just a lock box. They're so easy to get into, I'd feel bad charging you for opening a real safe."
Aren't these things just for fire resistance and protection against low effort opportunistic types?
@@billtheunjust
The way I see it, they're for keeping small children out of non-critical stuff.
billtheunjust I'd say that the real utility is keeping important papers and such safe from house fires and water damage (splash from fire hoses and such, probably not from literally being submerged underwater for any length of time) but as far as security goes, it's no better than a metal filing cabinet with a lock on it. Enough to stop klepto teenagers or a sneak thief who gets in the house while you're asleep but any real thief who has a little time and can afford to make some noise (homeowner isn't home) will get into it without much difficulty.
I see your name is the same as your daddy and you daddy before.
How do you get into a sentry safe vs. an "actual" safe when you're on the job?
I think this video is the sickest and most disrespectful burn I've ever witnessed 💯 amazing job as always, LPL ❤️
Not really - it's a FIRE PROOF safe. It's not intended to provide any theft protection.
Wow. I've had boxes of cereal that are harder to get into.
My pill bottles give me more trouble...
clamshells... *shiver*
I want a video of you opening a cereal box with some form of saw now. Not that I don't believe you, I just think it would make a good video
@@jong3122 Imagine what if he get himself ***physically*** into a box of cereal. That will make a great video.
The plastic cover/box thing your cake from the supermarket comes in gives u more trouble to open.
"honey what's the neighbor cutting in his driveway this time?"
"Oh just breaking into another safe with a saw and a crowbar"
*Lockpicking into a safe
@@drumedorable: Breaking.
EoRdE6 oh brother,
That was just too funny 😂
Ha! Nice one 👏
Never have your hand behind circular saw when cutting if the saw "kicks" back bye bye fingers.
"To show you the power of Flex Tape... I sawed this safe in half!"
Lucas M lol funny stuff !
nOW tHaTs ALLOTA DAMMAGE
And we made this safe A LOT safer than it originally was!
Beat me to it :(
But does yours "Knock out the fat?"
Once again shows how dexterous you gotta be as a locksmith, lots of finesse and meticulous attention to details needed...
"Provides fire protection, water protection and security protection"
Does what it says on the tin - it would seem you are quite well protected against fire, water and security.
Just when I was thinking I was getting over my insecurities
The blade teeth are binding.
its a scam moron
@@davidpeterson7869 r/Whoosh
@@davidpeterson7869 you didnt get the joke hes saying that it protects you from security so you wont be getting any security
I like how LPL switches between precision attack and sheer brute force
He's a man of many talents
Then zooms in with subtle efficiency to show the true scam.
Brute force...?
This un-safe can be cuttet with a butter knife!
Pretty sure you could drop this a few times and it would open right up.
I’m gonna paint my beach cooler black and call it a beer safe.
Put a hasp on it & it'll be just about as secure as this safe!
It's gonna get hotter in the sun
don't forget the master lock
N o c o r o n a.
Don’t forget the master lock logo
Gotta hand it to Master Lock management, always consistent, there would no point to exceed customer expectation as that would not change the brand reputation.
Me half paying attention: did I just hear him say he’s going to try to cut into a safe with a circular saw?
A literal second later: that cuts smoother than my circular saw on wood!
exactly
You need a new blade.
You could get through this with a hacksaw tbh
That was a hotel room locker, not a safe (or vault).
@Nobody Knows So since ur posting the same "FIRE-rant" in several threads ill answer in several of them, cos u clearly like to twist facts..!
So if u didnt see the whole vid ill just mention the obvious here. LPL literally says:
"According to the company website it provides SECURITY protection, FIRE protection and WATER protection. Now i cant speak to the fire and water protection, but as for 'SECURITY' - THATS the reason im making this video." ...
"...confusing 'cos ... Its a heavy box. Its called a 'SAFE'. It looks like a SAFE. It operates like a SAFE." ...
"If we read this manual we can see that it explicitly anticipates that owners will keep valuables like jewelry and watches in it."
But yeah NK, u focus on the fire part of it... X-]
LMAO, "Zoomed in on the Master Lock Logo" What junk, and the funny part is portable safes are just that "Portable" the thief can take it home and open it when they want.
@Tyrant Patrol it's a portable safe 😩 you don't get bolts .... or bolt holes cause it's portable ..... PORTABLE!!!!!!!! Just get it dude why won't you get it
@Tyrant Patrol go watch the video no bolt holes ? You have a different model?
@Tyrant Patrol so it wasnt meant to be bolted if you had to drill holes in it lmfao
These safes are not designed for being burglary-proof - they're designed for fire resistance. The keypad and lock are just for deterrent measures.
You would keep things in here that would be a hassle to replace in the event of a fire, but not necessarily of much value. Things like passports, birth certificates, titles, etc.
You definitely do not want to keep a lot of cash or jewelry in these, keep those in an iron safe or preferably in a safe deposit box at your bank.
@Tyrant Patrol wooosh
Struggled more with the safety guard on the skill saw than the safe.
Yeah I seen that also.....I have a worm drive Skil saw and when I let people use it they all make that same mistake with the guard.
as per usual..
This "safe" is so bad ...
That if you buy it at Walmart they have their 90 year old Walmart greeter carry it to your car for you.
That has to be one of the cheapest, most anemic saws that "Skill Saw" makes. Just thinking how quickly a model 77 would take care of that puppy.
I was thinking exactly the same thing as I watched
But bolt it down in your house in a cupboard or something similar and then what use would this attack method be. This safe looks like its built better than most American homes.
Lock-picking evolved so much since I last saw these videos.
not funny
kek
Definitely funny.
Quite funny
Safe sawing lawyer as a second channel maybe?
I want to disagree. I put mine on my kitchen counter and lock my bread and doughnuts in it. Not one mouse has broken into it, to steal my stash. It does a fine job.
They obviously weren't dedicated enough. Rats will chew through concrete.
@@Sinyao just learn something new now I going to look up the rats and see if they do go through concrete.
@@bsdgodgivenrights1181 i think only rock type rats can chew through concrete.
Are they homemade though? Cause it might be a testament to your cooking rather than the safe's (no offense)
Your mice are weak. Mine got angle grinders and detonating cord
After he cut the first side, he should have said “click out of one”
Top side binds, right side binds, bottom binds, last side binds - now give it a gentle turn with a crowbar - and see ....
Me too, I think he was using the left side of the plate to guide along that seam. He must have known how deep to cut off that line too, I'm sure he makes no presumptions.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
I hope that isn't a wood blade cutting steel
Unreal, I had no idea that these "safes" had so little actual metal in them. I ignorantly just thought it was solid steel. Great video.
They'd be much heavier and expensive, to your point.
@@scottashe984 on the other hand they advertise them saying it's a "solid steel construction" which is kind of misleading, because people think that means it's made of "solid steel", where what they mean is "solid construction that involves steel"...
"Yes officer, I think he's some kind of bank robber, he's cutting open safes in his driveway"
what safe? all i see is a lootbox
don't worry he can get out of it he is a lawyer
@@casperd2100 it's a sUrPrIsE mEcHaNiC!
@@colinsouthern he has played in that movie to
Officer: Sir, what is your name? I'm gonna have to bring you to the station for questioning.
LPL: This is, the lock picking law~yer
The sudden zoom on "Master Lock" was genius xD
I thought he zoomed in on "Made in Mexico"
"To demonstrate the power of flex tape, I cut this safe in half!"
And now I apply a good coating of Flex Tape to the cut safe!
Not only does it cover up the cut well enough, it also increases the defensive properties of the safe, thanks to Flex Tape's strong adhesive properties!
Might wanna change the lock mechanism though, heard not much from this brand....
THATS ALOT OF DAMAGE!!
Honestly flex tape would have slowed him down more than the actual safe did
The L plate on my bike is heavier duty than this and it’s cheep shit from Tesco lol
Lmao yeah that's hilarious
Excellent demo of a consumer "safe". I learned this lesson a decade ago when someone used an axe to break into a similar safe at my Church. I volunteered to find a relacement, and fortunately met a used safe dealer in western NJ. He gave me an excellent education on safes, and showed me his collection of profesionally violated high security safes, such as those you might find at a diamond dealer or a pawn shop. In any case I came away with a nice used TL-15 safe, which is rated to withstand a professional attack with tools for 15 minutes. Although not much bigger than the "safe" it replaced, it weighed about 900 lbs, and we bolted it to the floor. One should keep in mind that while burgulary rated safes have more resistance to say, a lawyer with a skil saw, they are probably not rated for fire resistance. An option is to place a fire resistant safe or storage box within the burglar safe to achieve both. Bottom line, if the safe doesnt weigh a half ton or more, its probably not burglar resistant. And, after seeing thick steel plate safes filled with concrete embedded with carbide chips that had been violated, I realized that one must weigh the risk agains the cost of a good safe
"ok here we have the luxury version, 10 inch steel plates, 8 lock cylinders, integrated tempering alarm, internal power suppl-"
"yeah... uhm... that's out of my price range, what about that one over there?"
"oh that's just a foam-box covered in sheet metal."
"i'll take it!"
Considering the first one is a safe aimed to combat thieves and the second is a fire-safety lockbox aimed to keep documents and stuff like that safe from housefire or flood, well, I'd rather take the fire-box to my house and leave the luxury safe to bank.
I like to call it the 'oh god the house is on fire' test, akin to the Chieftain's 'oh god the tank is on fire' test in that when shit hits the pooper and you have need to emergency exit your house, how long does it take to gather essential important things like indentification, certificates, graduation documents, etcetra that would be threathened by fire, flood or other natural disaster? Opening a safety vault presumably located in your cellar for maximum security, is far slower than just grabbing a file container or perhaps a small lockbox from your bedroom, which can handle rough treatment and can withstand fire for a while if you need to leave it behind during your escape. I can grab the file box from beside my bed, throw it out of the window, nab a pair of slippers and toss my bedsheet over the broken window's frame to keep me safe from glass shards while I climb over it and get out of the house in less than a minute with clothes, 'shoes', phone, credit cards and my identification papers, which I consider a passable test.
For me the 'oh god the house is on fire' test is more important than 'oh god there is a robber in the house' test since I live in area where house fire is around hundred times more likely than a robber entry, but hey hou.
More foil than sheet metal I'd say...
You get the better safe you hide. And then you get a cheap one that thieves steal. And it is the one that has a glitter bomb rigged to go off when someone opens the door. BOOM! GLITTERY! Is it evil? Well, yes but really if I wanted them dead. I'd be home and shot them.
@Swampy dude clearly bought one and is upset that he feels stupid now. He's grasping at straws giving others bad advice who may or may not have drastically different security needs than he. Not everything can be kept in a bank. Just because he doesn't have anything valuable enough to justify a proper safe doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't either.
Wow I thought it was at the very least concrete, not foam!
buy one of these for decoy
lock your valuables in your locking toolbox in the garage
checkmate.
@@ArielNMz step one is checking anything you have access to first. Safe come last if you have to do destructive opening. It is also prefered to load the whole safe up and bring it back to work with if you can.
@@anhduc0913 yes but if you can't open the toolboxes or the safe you'll take the safe because it's easier to remove and likely has more valuable stuff in it
If they are using your tools to break the safe, they will find your valuables before they even open the safe.
@@rayrous8229 "You'll always take the punches from those who don't get the joke" - Joker, from Batman: The Animated Series.
not a good idea because some thieves actually steal tools because sometimes they can be very valuable especially power tools or more popular brands of hand tools
LPL: “Today I’m going to be picking this safe”
*spools up circular saw*
SentrySafe: wait that’s illegal
honest, I think you could get through it using a pocket knife. might take a little longer but you would be quite
I’m going to show my skills and pick open the safe today using only a skill saw
in half
The irony of discreet 😂
I used an angle grinder to grind off the hinges, and pried it with a crowbar once. Pretty easy with power tools.
These are useful for the fire/water protection, and that's really all they should be used for.
that and keeping kids out
@@shaddotynot when your kid is lpl
So you're saying I need to buy a high security safe for my safe?
@@W4fflemonger you wouldn't want to lose your high security safe in a flood or fire would you? :D
When someone saws your safe there is more saw dust than sparks, you've got a problem.
Not at all. There are some materials that are almost impossible to saw through and they're mainly clay+concrete(with some additives) so it would be mainly dust if there was a tool good enough to saw through it
He didn't even use a blade for metal. He just used a wood cutting blade. So funny. I love when he unlocks safes with a big magnet.
@@99temporal he said sawdust
saw·dust
/ˈsôˌdəst/
noun
powdery particles of wood produced by sawing.
When someone saws your safe you've got a problem.
@@99temporal Ceramic!
its hurts me to see him use powertools, endangering his magic hands...
Did someone call me?
He was wearing gloves and seem to have a very steady hand. But would you expect anything less from a professional lock picker?
@@magichands135 Hilarious
@@magichands135 epic af. Made me forgot why I even click on the original comment.. Bravo haha
@@magichands135 how does it feel to be used by LPL
*Slow condescending passive aggressive zoom in on Master Lock Company LLC...*
😏
Suck it "Master" Locks. LPL has your number.
Also Made in Mexico.
@@yuvgotubekidding I assume you are Murican 🤦♂️
@Chase S you're right. Not really, but I just wanted you to feel better. USA made or GTFO.
@Chase S Commie cucks who cry about capitalism are not a solution, and fail to understand that blaming capitalism for people/companies that are unscrupulous does not somehow mandate a "government takeover" of production and property resources.
@@Roobeyns Libtards getting triggered... Did that comment ruub you the wrong way? LOL
The thing is, these kinds of safes they market are against burglars who go through your draws and cabinets, snatch what they can of value and take off. This will prevent a quick snatch and grab break in; however, even a higher quality and more durable safe will not stop a prepared thief who knows what they're up against. These safes are based upon the assumption the thief didn't prepare to bring tools beforehand with the expectation of having to breach a safe. In general, it does what it's designed to do.
Exactly. Nobody expects a cheap Walmart safe to slow down anyone determined. It defends against the lazy and opportunistic. This does that and offers fire protection at an affordable price. Your cost is directly proportional to the amount of time and effort needed to defeat your protections.
Or makes it easy! hey its a safe there is everything of value lets grab it and run. Like atleats you need to secure the safe to something for it to properly work. But then again just a custom hiding place and you have the same thing expect fire protections but then again you can add that to your hiding place.....
Never saw such a weak safe. That metal part is even thinner then a car panel LOL.
@@xsynergist Whell what does a safe mean to you then???
For me its mean it will secure the contents inside otherwise its just a cabin.
@@Handle-Unavailable-x What it means is your level of protection is proportional to your cost. How long will it take a determined attacker to defeat? The more you spend the higher that time value will be. This safe protects you from fire and people without tools. You want more protection pay for heavier safes and thicker steels.
@@xsynergist You totally right good description of it, spot on mate!!
But at it cost what i can find online retialed for : 240 dollars. For that money its then better to build a home made fire resistant custom hiding spot. This "safe" is more a protected fire box then a
actually safe in my opinion. This so called safe is just gonna stand out so the thief knows what to grab and the run away. again in my opinion.
It wouldn't surprise me if the filling turned out to actually be flammable.
At this point, I'm a little upset he didn't atleast hold a lighter up to the exposed foam.
As foam no it wouldn't burn, but as an aerosol yes it would.
I do think that insulation is questionable though.
@Nobody Knows The word "fireproof" and "bullet proof" are lies. Resistant, yes. Proof implies something impossible.
@@heroslippy6666 For many uses, "fireproof" is defined in code, usually fulfilling its designed for a certain amount of time with a certain temperature fire without additional oxidants added. It does not mean impossible, and can at times even mean ablative. Just because you could squirt some ClF3 on it and get it to burn, doesn't mean it isn't going to be considered fireproof.
I haven't had to get things certified as bulletproof or ensure that an assembly is so, but I would guess that it has a similar codified definition somewhere.
@Nobody Knows ok lol
I'm just gonna admire the fact that he freehanded that cut together perfectly.
He placed his machine so the left hand edge followed the line of the safe door
freehanded? lol no, followed the line LOL
It's not terribly hard when you're only cutting through 1/16" piece of sheet metal and foam insulation.
@@expert_fretwork foam cement; not hardened steel by any means, but still...
@@foxyMcFoxface That puny little saw could kick an ant about 5cm....
And to show you the lack of security!
*saw sounds*
I sawed this safe in half!
Safe tape?
THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE!
to be fair, the safe is small enough that one person can carry it away without effort.
also: the metal is thin enough that he could have achieved the same result with a boltcutter and a pickaxe.
Cr4ck Horse an HVAC circle cutter or a large hole saw would go right through. I still thing one good crack with a sledge an your in like Flynn!
Ancient Yuletide Carol HE IS NOW RIDING THE SAFE
I love how he isn't even using a concrete saw! Please also note the external pin hinge. MAJOR weakness there, too. However, if it is specifically stated as "fire protection for your valuables" rather than "security for etc" then maybe they have a case.
I had one of these for a while. The solenoid start to fail. So I got out the mallet and helped it open one last time, then took it down to a locksmith and bought a real safe from him with a four number rotary combination. Never been happier.
I literally thought this was made out of plastic by the way it bounced when you turned it, but considering how thin the metal was it might as well be. And of COURSE it's made by Master Lock.
@Nobody Knows right, this type of save is usually kept hidden inside houses to keep important documents. In case of a fire, they can still be retrieved. What needs to be accounted for is how heavy it is to give thief some problem carrying it.
@Shattered Dreams Didn't Freelaxx annihilated your argument? Pshhhhhhh, you act and sound like a ceiling gang.
Anyone using the title master is obviously not
@@raybois the poorer the quality, the better it is. The better it is, the more worse it is.
@@raybois Well I can tell you this...
*_𝙔𝙊𝙐 𝙁𝘼𝙏 𝘽𝘼𝙇𝘿 𝘽𝘼𝙎𝙏𝘼𝙍𝘿 𝙔𝙊𝙐 𝙋𝙄𝙀𝘾𝙀 𝙊𝙁 𝙎𝙐𝘽𝙃𝙐𝙈𝘼𝙉 𝙏𝙍𝘼𝙎𝙃 2000 𝙔𝙀𝘼𝙍𝙎 𝙊𝙁 𝘾𝙊𝙉𝙎𝙏𝘼𝙉𝙏 𝙃𝙐𝙈𝘼𝙉 𝙀𝙑𝙊𝙇𝙐𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙏𝙊 𝘾𝙍𝙀𝘼𝙏𝙀 𝘼 HAIRLESS 𝙁𝙐-_*
When I gather my Ocean’s eleven team, Lawyer is the first on my list.
He'll rat you out the moment he's caught to save his own skin...
"How's his nerves?"
"Not so bad you'd notice"
you won't need the other nine ;D
Well, I think it would basically be Ocean's two. Or even Ocean's one once TLPL realizes he doesn't need you.
First of His Name he is booked for Ocean’s 15.
While watching this I thought to myself:
"Wow, Masterlock should buy that company!"
And then he zooms in at the end. LOL
Master Lock must hate the lock picking lawyer
Made in Mexico...and about as secure as the U.S. border.
I usually enjoy your videos and while it's interesting to see that it's not a safe like a bank vault (even if it were solid metal, it could still be carried away), the main point would be to keep documents safe in case of fire.
He took a page out of his wife's book. You know, the one with the destructive entry methods.
He learned from the Ice Cream incident!
Used the same saw too
damn
"I'm going to open this up using a low skill attack"
*Uses Skill Saw*
Me: "That's illegal, its got skill in its name"
But he was holding it really low.
That's cause the saw has all the skill so the user doesn't need any 😂
Lol man I forgot my code awhile back and just took a crowbar to it and prided the side off till the door opened. Really I just buy these to keep things out of reach of my kids lol
That's not illegal. LPL didn't say that he would "open it without a skill" attack. He said "low skill attack". He's a lawyer, wouldn't make such a rookie mistake.
@@eksentrysyti i think you missed the joke.
I was just about to call this the “Master Lock” of safes. Then you zoomed in on the label. Doh!!
Much more fascinating than the ease with which this safe was sawed in half is the unholy precision of your sawing to almost perfectly hit your starting point.
Also that slight grin in your voice while zooming in on "Master Lock Company" just completely killed me. I can barely write because I'm still laughing :D
I love how succinct these videos. I came, I sawed, I opened
Underated comment, Jules! ;)
I see what you did there.... hahahaha! Nice one. Fred
This needs more likes
@@electronicengineer You wean you SAW what he did there. 😊
@@ejrandler Exactly! I weaned that precisely. Fred ;)
"Master Lock LLC"
Oh. that explains many things.
I don't get it?
@@ArsyaUtomo I guess he was referring to the part where the company is a Limited Liability Company
@@ArsyaUtomo If you watch many of these you find Master Locks have notorious issues like being easy to pick despite solid construction or their one "Lock Out, Tag Out" lock that has a relatively pick resistant core but a weak body and shackle.
@@jszigetvari no. Master lock is notorious for making extremely unsafe and unreliable locks
@@ArsyaUtomo master lock is known for making very cheap locks that are very easy to pick and labeling them as "unpickable" and such
these are microwaves which failed QC, just change the door.
Lol!
My microwave has more metal than that safe...
!!! This!!!
Glueing a hasp for a padlock with superglue to a microwave will provide more security than this
Common lock picking tools: "Please let me in."
LPL's preferred tools, combined with his skills and know-how: "You're letting me in."
This video: "I WASN'T ASKING, YOU ARE LETTING ME IN NOW."
Safe Company: "Buuuuuut, he didn't *pick* it."
*folds arms smugly*
Yeah, he just carried it off to do that at home at his leisure without having to worry about getting
caught. I think you can cut through the micro thin this thing with a simple hacksaw - cut through
the shell, pull or pry it off it off , then break apart the foam with a machete.
@@clambroth1923 You could just as easily open it without tools, if you don't care about actually harming whats inside of it. Just drop it from a reasonable height, the sheet metal will bend and you should be able to peel the rest of it off. Then you only have the fire isolation stuff left, which you can basically scratch out if you wanted to, stuff is quite brittle.
I think he's picked enough Master Lock products where that doesn't matter anymore.
@@needmorespaceformyna
2:32 - just roll the seam, use chisel to roll the seam out, peel back both sides, jig-saw to get to the inside... watched a lock-smith do it to a safe purchased at an estate-auction for the purchaser on site... took less time that LPL with the circular saw.
he doesnt have to pick it, master locks just open for him before he can even get his tools
the master lock zoom was magnificent
i didn't even notice it at first until he zoomed in, i laughed
This is the first lesson on LPL's masterclass on throwing shade.
company should be called 'Master of nothing Locks'
i lost my shit lmao
4:45 I'd spotted "Master Lock Company LLC" before you zoomed in on it.
I'm curious how Stack-On security cabinets compare. They're still pretty flimsy but can you cut through one in 2 minutes with a power saw?
Teknikul Righter
Would be much louder. No cheap insulation to deaden sound. Metal definitely thicker then this POS. I have a couple of Stack on's and for the money they're pretty hard to beat for basic security.
Good for you
As LockLab would say "Master Lock, tough looking on the outside, marshmallow on the inside"
Seeing the name Master Lock LLC on a security product is kin, to seeing that Berkshire Hathaway is the owner of the company you're looking to purchase a product from. i.e. Duracell Batteries.
I've got old and new versions of American Lock #700's. My how has that product changed, and not for the better.
That shot at the end. I always get a bit of a "re-stomp the groin" kinda vibe from LPL when it comes to Master Lock.
The John Wick sure shot to the head 🤣
Master Ken would re-stomp a masterlock every time!
Now you can hang the front on your wall to hide a picture frame!
LOL! Good one!
Wait..?
That's a good idea!!!
Top comment!
Goes on LPL's trophy wall!
This channel isn't for finding what products to avoid. It's for abandoning all hope.
Ok, so is there any recommendation for a decent one which can't get hacked in minutes??
@@fred8674 A real safe this size costs about 15 times this one and weighs 10 times as much.
@@notpoliticallycorrect4774 or you could build one yourself into your house wall with concrete, thick sheet of metal and a mechanical lock mechanism that isn't obvious. Your classical decoration Acting as a lever, connected by ropes and all that. Stick a dummy lock on the sheet of metal.
I doubt the average robber will figure out whats going on or if he does, he will have to make a mess of the place to enter the safe.
🤷♂️
Yeah everything is made so cheap it's ridiculous to even try to find anything that is actually good. The companies use the cheapest materials. Then use the cheapest labor. And put it together as fast as possible while just barely staying in the range of their own standards. While taking shortcuts to avoid lawsuits. They probably spend more time worming their way into loopholes than actually using their resources in an efficient way.
@@richardmcgravystein4188 idk how could you make a good quality safe for cheap.
Use a safe as a decoy hid your valuables somewhere else.
IF it's water-resistant, a stink bomb inside would be a good idea. The thief opens it up and gets nausea, runs away from home.
Gotta keep this tactic on the low homie
Have you seen the underwear skidmark safe? Google it
Life Hack #44: Be too poor to have anything worth stealing
Hide your valuables in your books thieves tend to be poorly educated so will see no value in a shelf of books.
I had a safe similar to this for fire protection and to discourage a nosy house cleaner or guest. It never occurred to me that it would provide security against a determined burglar.
even bank vaults cant keep a determined burglar
Yeah I have something from this brand as well. I definitely don’t think about keeping valuables in there, just important documents I want protected from fire.
Nothing will.. A circular saw with a metal cutting blade can cut through 1/2 inch plate just as easily. So I'm not sure how this is showing anything special. The main thing is that it's not heavy and can be carried away; and I don't think it has holes to bolt it down.
@@calholliit does have bolt holes. Even comes with some pretty large anchor bolts.
@@stonemanbytes Nice.. But like I said, you can cut through that same safe if it were 1/2" steel with that same saw and it only takes about 2x or 3x the time.. So only a few minutes.
Plot twist: They use asbestos in their safes, so they get the last laugh.
It's clearly not asbestos, though. Also, you won't die from minor exposure, unless you work in an asbestos mine or something like that.
@@trinidad17 Might want to re-calibrate your humor-filter.
Nah they should just use explosives so if you try sawimg it open it just blows up
yea but it takes 30 years to kill you , so give it to someone old to cut.
No asbestos, cement
they say safe but if you look up the UL listing they are listed under the category for "Residential Security Containers" (TL-5 rating meaning it has to withstand 5 mins against an attacker armed with a screwdriver and hammer) not for safes which have insane security requirements to get a UL real "safe" rating (class B, class C, TL-15, TL-30 and even higher) also if you think thats crazy most gun "safes" are also "RSC" listed not real safes either a total scam that needs more awareness.
screwdriver and hammer?
i get why youd rate a doorlock or a padlock like that
but what are you supposed to do with those on a safe? there so not the right toold for the job unless you wanna justt hit it and hope it opens
in which case 5 minutes is pretty pathetic
+Sarge
You can easily cut sheet metal with a hammer and a screwdriver...you lay the driver nearly on it's side where you want to cut, then smack the side of the driver blade tip with the hammer, and work your way along the material you want to cut like a can opener. It doesn't look pretty, but it will get you in this safe no problem.
Yep. That's why, when buying security devices, it's important to ask ourselves what we're protecting the items against so that we can find a device with the proper rating. I've bought Sentry Safes, before; but it's mostly for fire / water protection while my security concerns are more about deterring busybodies, curious pet-sitters, and low-grade thieves.
It's similar to how I'm not that worried about using cheaper locks to protect my sweaty, nasty gym clothes while showering but I invest much more in a lock for a storage unit or shed containing items of greater value. Someone snooping in lockers at the gym is a different kind of security threat from someone looking for a payday in the self-storage yard.
That's not a scam, you answered your own comment.
The problem lies in the typical consumer, who buys something based on a price tag and a pretty picture on the outside of a box. It's the consumer's responsibility to research the things they purchase, and there is ESPECIALLY no one else to blame when that data is easily obtainable, such as on a UL listing.
Unless you keep your wallet, goverment id, credit cards, and/or vehicle keys in the gym locker, in which case it could be potentially more valuable than your storage unit / shed.
4:42
I was very confused as to who would make such an atrociously horrible safe. Then I saw the sticker...
But you have to admit that they are masters, master in bad safety! :-)
Master lock is adequate to protect your clothes maybe
So who makes a decent safe for under 200$?
@@TakeTurnsGaming For 200$ no one, unless you mean a decent safe to store unimportant cheap stuff. Add a couple of zeros to your prize and you get something decent. Two tings is important for the great safe: 1) As impossible to move as you can afford. 2) Take as long a time to break into as you can afford.
If the safe cant be bolted safely to the building would I not go below a ton in weight. And minimum 30 minutes of brutal entry is also a minimum.
@@friedmule5403 I'm just concerned with someone lock picking or breaking into it on premises at location.
If I'm being honest, I was more concerned about the saw giving kickback and hurting you than the shoddy construction of the safe. Kickback is no joke with skill saws, they like to go back and to the left, right to where your hand was. Last major kickback I had almost caught me on the inside of my thigh, would have killed me. Bought a bandsaw after that for ripping thick material.
I was thinking the same watching it
Same thought.
Sentry needs to put a warning sticker on all their safes: "WARNING: DO NOT CUT."
Or "Saw Free Zone"
To be fair I haven't heard of as many people sawing a fucking safe in half rather then just getting through the door
Also you can probably just cut through the locking mechanism and open the door at a much faster rate
Or, "WARNING: MADE BY MASTER LOCK"
😂😂😂
My aunt had a cheap sentry safe lockbox with her birth certificate, social security card, backup car key, car title, rainy day fund etc. She was freaking out because she lost her key for it. My cousin picked it up at about chest height and dropped it on the back patio, it sprung right open. She was dumb founded. She had believed it to be top security.
Wow.... lol
@isiunavailable i think this video shows that it isn't such bs or unbelievable. my parents have a safe from the 1800's, even c4 probably couldn't get into it, as it weighs about 500lbs empty, actual steel, not some dried milk powder. sandwiched between aluminum and plastic. this is really just a fire safe, not a valuables safe.
@isiunavailable Picking up and dropping something to open... Such BS.
@@LygerTheCLaw but even the weakest of lock attacks would get it pretty quick, unless it has a more modern door with locking bars and a modern key system or code
This is why you mount the safe inside a cabinet or closet. Then you can’t roll the safe around. We only keep documents in our safe (deed to house, vehicle titles, birth certificates, etc).
"So, I'm just going to cut this safe with the circular saw that BosnianBill and I made".
I just said the same sort of thing.
LOL, I have seen IKEA drawers that are harder to get in to.
No doubt, harder to put together,too.
And I even had the key
And being made of wood they are probably about as fire resistant, except they are not air tight.
Hahahahahahahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣
...that's just a regular wood blade, not even a metal blade...
I was gonna ask. Just standard 52t 6" blade or crazy not even metal i own both
Probably Harbor Freight one at that. Hopefully he used a 20% off coupon.
Any carbide tipped saw blade will cut thin tin like that or even thick aluminum. Like butter, just go slow and watch for shavings (eye)
I'd love to see a battery operated circular saw using a Diablo metal cutting blade up against a full size reputable gun safe. Those blades cut rebar and 1/4" steel like it's wood. People need to realize your stuff isn't protected. All a safe does is keep honest people honest.
@@gregsicinski8138 *Gotta look at the TL rating* which encompass tools like you described and much more. TL provides a summary of all other ratings combined except protection for contents from fire. example - some ratings show resistance to a cutting torch, but TL encompasses torches and everything else commonly available.
To get a rating, the lab gets plans of the safe inside and out including all materials used, look it over closely, and pick what they think are the best ways to attack and the fastest - the resulting rating is how much time it took them to break into the safe (TL-15 is 15+ minutes).
Note the time is from experienced experts using information a burglar isn't likely to have. Most burglars will take much longer.
TL-5 is OK for home, will deter most thieves who just look for a quick smash and grab and out the door in well under 5 minutes - no need to lug around heavy tools, linger, and greatly risk getting caught when they can net jut as much breaking into 2 more homes.
TL-10 is better if you have a lot of valuables and puts it out of reach of most thieves unless they specifically know you have a safe and came prepared. Some might try anyway but will give up when they aren't making any headway after a few minutes.
TL-15 is common for jewelry and upper end watch stores and would be the upper end for any home application.
I have a TL-30 but this and anything higher is overkill for a home. I bought it used for the size to hold document binders in a fireproof environment. I was robbed - it was in the 1st room the thieves entered. They didn't even try to attack the safe, just pulled out the top drawers in the bedroom dressers which had nothing, and exited empty handed without bothering to check the rest of the home (I have several large pure silver decorative items they missed but are usually a target of thieves) - probably spent more time climbing in and out the window than searching for loot.
Gun safes still have value - almost all professional thieves are looking to get in and out of the home in well under 5 minutes, so they will usually skip a safe unless thy are confident they can break into it in less than 5 minutes with the tools they have with them, and as I found they act as a deterrence from a thorough search of the home - after they find the bedroom empty, they assume anything of value is in the safe.
Also most safes have fire protection. The small safes like this or what you buy at a retail chain are no deterrence to theft (2 pry bars would have probably popped the door as fast as the power saw), and when tested under fire they failed when they fell off the table and the door popped open.
Another big gain is to hide the safe. Most thieves search the bedrooms, kitchen, and home office so hide the safe someplace else, the rest of the home is just a walk through scanning for items in plain sight. It isn't like they are going to take the time looking for a hidden wall cavity in the basement-garage-hallway-laundry room-utility closet-etc. or enter the attic or crawl space.
Consider having just a hidden wall cavity behind a mirror or wall mounted bookcase (or something else secured to the wall) with a well made, tight, hidden latch to open. You can't steal what you don't know is there. Needs to be something that is permanently attached - thieves do check behind pictures and wall hangings, and book cases that roll across the floor will eventually leave marks.
For an apartment to hide small items, I made a dummy 2 gang receptacle box with the cover held by magnets, cut out the back and sides of the box not used for mounting, and made an internal chamber. No thief is going to start checking for fake electrical receptacles.
If looking, I recommend shopping used safes. They go for a fraction of a new one, but it isn't like they wear out from lots of use.
With a "circular saw" I am one of the few (retired) tradesman left that doesn't use the term "skilsaw" . Looks like you actually did use a Skilsaw (brand name) there! Yet you know the proper term to use in regards to the tool. Great video!
To be fair, when I was in the safe business the term "safe" always referred to a product that was used to protect something from fire. The box wasn't designed to defeat burglars. If storing valuables, you would use a stand alone money chest or a money chest incorporated into the safe. In reality, the lock was only intended to keep the safe from popping open if the safe fell through the floor in a fire, with a security level mainly intended to keep curious fingers and eyes off of the documents in the safe. Sentry safes are on the low end and would frequently pop open if dropped on a hinge corner.
Wait, so he could've dropped it on the hinges to open it...?
This might make sense to a guy in the safe business, but it is not how safes are marketed to consumers and what consumers are led to believe they are intended for. Functionally, the distinction you mentioned doesn't exist.
@@Ninjaferret666 But anyone can walk off with a 90lb safe, no? For me, it would be reasonable to assume protection from fire is what the safe is offering. I mean, if someone can walk off with it, it's not really a "safe" like a bank safe. Having said that, who knows what kind of fire test they put these through.
They did say on their website “theft protection”, along with fire and water protection, so it does mislead the consumer, based on what they said
@@thatoneguy4584
You could fill it with concrete to prevent theft.
"I can't speak to the fire protection"
Wait, you're not going to take a flamethrower to it? Well I'm underwhelmed
the lpl needs to hit these with flame throwers or at least throw them on the grill.
They claim 1700 deg F for one hour. While most people don't buy these for fire protection, I did make use of it, everything inside was intact after being in a house fire.
Here's we flamethrower that Bosnian Bill and me made
Thermite - easy and portable ;)
a flamethrower really wouldn't simulate a house fire....
My son's piggy bank has thicker metal than this.
J.H. what the fuck are you rambling? company said ''it's a safe for goods jewels etc.'' well, it'not safe at all. it's garbage. period.
@@spiritualcramp8000 It's a FIRE Safe, with some additional lock security. It's constructed to reduce the rate that thermal energy is transferred thru the safe and those to important things you have inside the safe so hopefully they are not lost in a house fire.
Craigfield who would spend money to buy a safe that protects stuff from a fire and not from a thief? and i wish the lawyer throws this crap into a fire to see how much is this really ''fire safe'' i bet it melts in a few minutes.
@@spiritualcramp8000 you put this fire safe into a convencional thief safe. Then your things will be safe against thief and fire😂😂
@@SecretPesch LOL ..and a rubick cube inside with the note ''you've been pranked''
Have you tested any safes that have an actual burglary rating? Would love to see if a safe rated with an Underwriter Laboratory rating of tl-15 actually takes more than 15 minutes to break open. Not to mention how you would attack the safe. That would be a great video.
"sheet metal like on a filing cabinet"? you could've cut that thing open with an old style can opener
2:37 the moment i saw he's using a wood designed blade i realised you could cut this in half with a regular handsaw without too much effort
and how you genious deduced that? in wich part did you see the blade?
spiritual cramp Did you not bother to click the timestamp in that comment where you can clearly see the blade? Or did you just decide being insulting was more fun?
calls people genius but can't spell it.
@@spiritualcramp8000 How about I wont speak, German, French and Spanish and you make the world a better place by not speaking my mother tongue anymore. Deal?
Just pry it open at the seam on the bottom. You could get in with a butter knife and a spoon
I think the explanation comes at 3:50 where on the tag it says ‘master lock company llc’
Is this safe trolling its owners ?
It's not a bad product but it's been irresponsibly marketed. In reality it should be marketed as effectively a lockable metal filing cabinet that protects documents from fire and flood.....and I'm not even sure about the flood protection, it might just be against splash (like from firefighter hoses putting out the fire or from water damage from being outside in wet weather conditions but not actually able to be submerged in water for any appreciable length of time.
@@22steve5150
Considering its construction, maybe its bouyant?
Exactly my first thought when I saw it. Masterlock is well known for not being any kind of master in the context of locks (they make products that mostly keep out honest people) so it makes sense their Sentry doesn't even sentry.
@@22steve5150 I have one (not this model, but similar) and I agree, it's not a bad product, if you are using it appropriately. For me, I wanted something that would resist a fire so that if my house burned down I'd still likely have my most important documents intact, and would provide more deterrence to theft than leaving things in my dresser drawer. Would I have liked to have something that was also near impenetrable? sure, but I couldn't justify the price difference for a "real" safe for my purposes. I did however bolt it to the concrete floor, and put it in an out of the way place that would be unlikely to be found and opened without spending more time than I hope my alarm system allows a burglar to spend.
As for waterproof. The company selling it claims that it is submersible, however I have my doubts. Even more so if you follow their instructions for bolting it down which involve drilling holes for the bolts in the bottom of the unit. That said, I put the important documents in ziploc bags inside it, and I also siliconed the bolts to try to reduce water inflow.
For my purpose, I'd happily do it all over again.
Damn! :o
It's faster to cut these safe-walls in half, than cutting wood of similar thickness!
Haha, I started to think it might be better to make wooden out of cutted hardwood tree
This particular safe, which I've owned in the past, isn't really designed for security, it's designed more for resistance to fire. The typical burglar won't be using any noisy cut-off saw, they'd use a prybar or hammer. I'd like to see how well it does if attacked by one of those. Thanks for the video!
it wouldn't be a quick as the saw but the end results would be the same.
There are pictures on the net of these units pryed and smashed open. But realistically, anything that can be carried away will be entered. If installed securely in a wall, most thieves will move on to easier targets.
If a thief got access to your home, they'd probably lug the entire safe away. Meaning that, yes, even just owning this and filling it up with chocolate money will both:
a) ensure the thief will be lured by the low hanging fruit and make him carry away this heavy thing possibly restricting his choices (i.e. he might forgo that expensive TV or PC because he didn't have time and he choose the safe)
b) you bet your ass some special moments will happen when he open the safe just to find a bunch of chocolate money
And I too think this safe is just designed for fire and water protection. Which is actually very reassuring to have! Only gripe I have with it is how it is advertised: it shouldn't be advertised as a regular safe would be.
They steal the safe, and crack it open with power tools at their house.
It’s also possible for a thief or two to just take the whole thing and work on it elsewhere.
"I SAWED THIS SAFE IN HALF!" *Takes out flextape to make it safer*
I. WAS THINKING THIS THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE VIDEO!!!!!! even wanted to comment it but you took the cake
That's a lot of damage!
,,,AND WE REBUILT IT USING NOTHING BUT THIS CHICKEN WIRE AND FLEXTAPE!!!
The flex tape might actually be more saw resistant than that thin metal. The tape material and the sticky adhesive might jam up a saw
WAAAAHOOOOOOOO!!!!
I’ve literally only ever thought of those boxes as fire safes, not security safes.
Yes, I don't even lock mine.
I would call them "peek-proof" they stop a curious co-worker from checking out your documents but not really more
I understand the idea of having a fire-safe, but if a couple inches of insulating foam is all takes to qualify, wouldn't it just be better to insulate a filing cabinet?????
Yeah, that's probably more accurate although selling it that way may not be as fruitful. If you hid this, or secured it really well in a wall or to the floor it would be a lot more secure.
The manual said fire safe on the front pafe ment to keep fire out not baddies
To be fair it is sold as a 'Fire safe' and the insualtion is to, protect the contents from heat. If the safe is bolted in place, the average house burglar is not going to be carrying power tools, nor wanting to make noise. These safes are at the bottom end of the consumer market and anyone with valuables would be looking to pay much more.
I would like to see a list of locks and safes that you DO recommend for various purposes, all it one place. That would make for a great quick reference guide when going to buy something
do believe he has a few videos like that.
That's if the Companies pay him for the advertisement first
@@presleymeck that's... not how that works lmao
@@Billothy69 so TH-camrs don't get paid by companies for advertising their stuff a.k.a sponsorship 👀 , stop trying to be a smart axx online lol
@@presleymeck bruh you're a dumbass. Yes, youtubers get paid to do sponsorships, however that doesnt mean they're getting paid every time they recommend something. In fact, most of the time a person recommends a product on a channel like this, its not because they're sponsored but because they actually like the product.