Why You STRUGGLE to MIX and MASTER! [Gain Staging Tutorial] | Noize London

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  • @NoizeLondon
    @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Reached 10K this morning... truly humbled - thank you so much for your support - couldn't do it without you ❤

    • @emme9789
      @emme9789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congratulations on the 10k man! Great content.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emme9789 Thanks dude!!

    • @JamesRamboPearce
      @JamesRamboPearce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smashing it Fab!

    • @LeSonduGrec
      @LeSonduGrec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats mate ! You're killing it

    • @petruciani
      @petruciani 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The humble bob helping you out might have a different take on that :) THIS, obviously, is to him! GJ! :p

  • @produrremusicaelettronica4609
    @produrremusicaelettronica4609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wowwww complimenti per gli iscritti ! Ti auguro tanta strada ! Te lo meriti !

  • @NoizeLondon
    @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Will add info cards tomorrow morning - hold tight :)

  • @produrremusicaelettronica4609
    @produrremusicaelettronica4609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grande come sempre ! Si parte dalla base e tu l’hai spiegata benissimo 👍🏻

  • @matthodges
    @matthodges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10k subscribers. Nice work! Enjoy the milestone.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks dude!!!

    • @matthodges
      @matthodges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No worries. Just don't forget us early adopters when you go global. 😊

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthodges Never!!

  • @azagedon
    @azagedon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content man, keep it up! Good tip about the output volumes, I will be employing this trick immediately!

  • @Flysonfame
    @Flysonfame 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You nailed it about the synth VST volumes. I use Arturia and, dude, yeah, their levels are widely all over the place.

  • @SpeakerLouis
    @SpeakerLouis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video again!! Much needed tips

  • @DeeJayPatife
    @DeeJayPatife 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for a while your considerations on Gain staging topic. Well done and thanks for sharing. Looking forward to some more.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome bud :)

  • @chrisbryanm
    @chrisbryanm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank for this man! I'm hyped for the next video!

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome dude thanks for watching!

  • @NanoSlap
    @NanoSlap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man, thank you for another great advice, I hope this channel gets bigger!
    I noticed a big improvement in my mixes when I started to control the output of each plugin... but I have a (probably so silly) question about headroom. If I want to keep 5/6 of headroom in my master track... No matter if I ‘freeze’ the volume of my kick track in -10db because later if I start adding tracks like crazy, it will end up peaking, right? (Or at least surpassing those -5/6 of headroom I aiming to)
    Thank u again man, this channel is gold!

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ideally aim for lower (-12db) initally, then you can bring the volume of all the channels up together at the end if you need less headroom :)

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thank you for changing my life

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds drastic but I’m glad it helped :)

  • @varunjoshi6542
    @varunjoshi6542 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know that the god is there if you someone uploads a video to solve the problem you are dealing with! ❤️❤️❤️

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha gods up there somewhere for sure 🙌🏼

  • @tonynekrews
    @tonynekrews 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent and straightforward as always. Love ya work. Cheers

  • @djnickhodgkins
    @djnickhodgkins 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing. Gain staging made simple. Many thanks!

  • @mariadocarmomariadocarmomaria
    @mariadocarmomariadocarmomaria 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great tips! the one with balancing output gain will definetly help my mixes from now on

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah keep up the good work bud :)

  • @fishbonegaga
    @fishbonegaga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much , i was waiting for your advice on this topic !

  • @aegir8155
    @aegir8155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been messing up my gain for a long time now. I'm always having to crank up the gain on the master channel at the end of my mix. Usually I end up adding like 15db to the master channel to bring it loud enough at the end.

  • @LiftedNoise
    @LiftedNoise 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info bro thank you.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching !

  • @spamytv
    @spamytv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for such high quality content :)

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching sir :)

  • @161snax
    @161snax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, let me know if I understand this correctly.
    The channel volume faders should all be left at the default settings.
    Adjust the volume of a sound by tuning the gain knob on the source (eg Simpler, some sort of VST) or maybe use Utility for this. Doing this I aim for around -12dB.
    And then adjusting the volumes of different sounds for the mix is done by playing with the channel's volume fader.
    Is this kind of the right way or did I get something wrong?
    Great videos by the way, really like the content so far!

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes Timmeh you are right - mix from the root of the sound of you can! :)

  • @humbertocueva3904
    @humbertocueva3904 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video bro, subbed

  • @Eckaz
    @Eckaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    keep makin video bro! its amazing video for me

  • @andyby
    @andyby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That background instrumental sounds so dope! Can I listen to it anywhere?

    • @wrongxide.mp3
      @wrongxide.mp3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep watching his videos in a loop bro.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll try and find the name for you ;)

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lololol

  • @Franzware
    @Franzware 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video.That s true ,the softsynth volume presets is too crazy high and so much effects applied.Serum and Sylenth1 the worst ,what about Massive's presets lol.
    Why them pump up the volume?To show the crowd the synth is powerful!
    It's pointless when you use synh presets and have to cut all the unecessary frequencies to fit your mix.Just time consuming.

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Franky - yeah they're all f**king us from the start. Just trying to look out for the beginners who don't realise it.

  • @TomaszRykala
    @TomaszRykala 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tips.

  • @majkistyle
    @majkistyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Which values should I look for when matching the volume (apart from my ears) - peak volume or RMS/LUFS? I don't really get it. Are we talking about the actual loudness level or the perceived loudness? I mean, for example - when soft clipping a sound at 0dB you're increasing the perceived loudness, but peak stays at 0dB. How would you compare that, and, would you even want to match volume in this situation?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Start with peak for now. Metered volume not perceived.

  • @laroshi8497
    @laroshi8497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen some plugins that do this for you. Have you heard of these where there is a sender before the plugin and a receiver after? Do you see any downside of using them? It would be cool to have the level match happening in real time so that you can hear what your tweaks are while they are happening. If you do recommend them, do you know which one would be the best?

  • @tjfunction
    @tjfunction 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EXCELLENT. Good show.

  • @ameliacrowe8783
    @ameliacrowe8783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VU meters are great for checking volume levels as they show an average volume over a longer period of time thanks to metering ballistics.

  • @tensorplex
    @tensorplex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @groundhog7871
    @groundhog7871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes that’s what I need thanks YT for the recommendation 😂 No thank you for making this content. I start mixing my project in 2 days

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck - let me know how you get on !

  • @Itsruffyouknow
    @Itsruffyouknow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! One question: I saw on a video that, for Ableton users and for Gainstaging purposes, you can use an Utility and a Spectrum Analyzer to match the volume of your sounds or samples per channel without touching on the faders itself by put them between -18dB and -12dB. It is correct? To low on volume? I did it on two tracks and I get a way better results but I guess that my tracks are still low on volume in general... What do you think?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      use your ears to match gainstaging. nothing else.

  • @andrewmckenzie7679
    @andrewmckenzie7679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey London, For gain stage output does it work out the same to adjust the mix level to get the original peak level if your plugin doesn't have an output knob? What gain plugin you recommend? I'm FL user. Could you do a video of this within a mix?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Sonalksis do a good gain plugin to be honest but I can't remember the name. Yes it does the same to adjust the original peak level :) Sorry for the late reply - youtube has just shown . me so many comments that I didn't reply to!

  • @thehottestbeatz
    @thehottestbeatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing about gainstaging is it always slows down my process of music creation. Lowering faders in the mixer takes some time then I want to add stuff like eq and compression. Should gainstaging be done before the song is in process or when it’s done?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do it at the end :)

    • @thehottestbeatz
      @thehottestbeatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noize London that’s what I figured

  • @matthodges
    @matthodges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another useful video! Any tips on ABing compression when we're using it to increase perceived loudness?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just make sure that the perceived volume is the same :)

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And thanks dude !!

    • @matthodges
      @matthodges 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Use your ears, keep things simple. Perfect.

  • @ashtoncheatham2220
    @ashtoncheatham2220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use Ableton, but I haven't noticed a good stock level meter in there to quickly assess numeric gain staging levels. Do you have any suggestions for a free one I could use that's quick and easy?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s a good one in my INSTANTLY LOUDER DRUMS video (sorry can’t remember the name) but it’s free and dope. Just be sure to set it to ‘peak’

  • @MattDeGuia
    @MattDeGuia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t usually comment on anything, but I just wanted to say thank you for all of these videos! They’re honestly really helpful, please don’t stop

  • @AbishIkramToledano
    @AbishIkramToledano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! This helped a lot. I am curious though.. By any chance would you mix and master music for someone else if they paid you?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem - of course man - mixing and mastering music is my day job :) is this something you're interested in?

    • @AbishIkramToledano
      @AbishIkramToledano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I am! (: How much would you charge to mix and master a song?

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All details are on my website - different options and prices depending on what you’re after.
      www.noizemusic.io

    • @AbishIkramToledano
      @AbishIkramToledano 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not bad I’m loving it! I’ll have to send some of my songs over to you. Thank you for the link

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AbishIkramToledano No problem - looking forward to hearing them bud

  • @ablebeats3481
    @ablebeats3481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes Arturia plugins levels are all over the place!

  • @Jean-Pierre.B
    @Jean-Pierre.B 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First, it's because of your room ;)
    Jean-Pierre B.
    _Acoustic Designer_

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol one of many issues

  • @gooneybird808
    @gooneybird808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truth!!!

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @pierreflanelle
    @pierreflanelle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    grrrreat again

  • @keylow7130
    @keylow7130 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am using the DT 770's to mix and master my tracks . I live in a flat/apartment .Therefor I can't make loud music on my monitors or any speaker . I get my mixes perfect except for the bass, which I struggle with a lot . Any advice on how I can mix the low end better with only my DT 770's please . I produce Future House/Future Bounce . (EDM)

    • @fldweeb5849
      @fldweeb5849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correlate your track on different monitors/speaker systems i.e your car and phone to see how they sound on each one.
      Then learn if your headphones are giving you too much or too little bass and work around it.
      (Another good tip is to have a reference track, and match the volume of the low end)

    • @overflowbeats6965
      @overflowbeats6965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah you’ll need to find some good references

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For bass ideally you want speakers with at least an 8" driver or a subwoofer. I would recommend also treating your room before doing this. Cars ar good for monitoring although now always accurate.

  • @keithforrester82
    @keithforrester82 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever do a video on level setting??

  • @whiteboybeats8870
    @whiteboybeats8870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yal bro this gr8

  • @DaRza17
    @DaRza17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's still an absolut mystery to me how putting a HPF/LPF on a track can result in the track being like 5 db louder... (no auto gain,no boosts)

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A HPF/LPF especially when at a steep slope creates a resonance bump at the point of the cut which boosts whatever frequency is there. So... keep those slopes smooth or use shelves!

  • @enjoymusic7884
    @enjoymusic7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please make more videos
    love from india

  • @mit136speichenumdiewelt
    @mit136speichenumdiewelt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for all of your video. If you will do on this high level you reach the 100.000 in the same time like you reach the 10.000 ;-)

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much dude lets hope so!

    • @mit136speichenumdiewelt
      @mit136speichenumdiewelt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you do a tutorial series from the beginning to the end of gain staging (start from kick...), I'm pretty sure people what love to see.

  • @quantum_psi
    @quantum_psi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought digital clipping was "okay" but analog clipping was completely off the table. Since technically digital clipping is reversible but analog isn't. I hope i'm not completely wrong

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Digital clipping is ok but not at the master stage! :)

    • @quantum_psi
      @quantum_psi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoizeLondon Ok good to know!! Thanks 👊👊

  • @ehsanfarahmand7002
    @ehsanfarahmand7002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💟💟💟

  • @andyby
    @andyby 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you related to Emilia Clarke, btw? You have the same eyebrows, hahah!

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lolol thats a first!!

  • @gsauce874
    @gsauce874 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you Diplo 😮?

  • @KREEPMANE
    @KREEPMANE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lotta talk about the basics but I still don't know what level my sounds should be at (that's what gain staging actually is)

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that’s because it depends on the sound dude ;) as long as it’s not clipping !

    • @NoizeLondon
      @NoizeLondon  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aim for 12db of headroom on your master as a start

  • @vsurp
    @vsurp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first :P

  • @anthonysoriano-103
    @anthonysoriano-103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but intro takes too long. Wasted 1 min of my time