Everyone calls it Big Ben. Technically the bell in the tower is called Big Ben, the tower itself is called the Elizabeth Tower, the tower being part of the massive Parliament building.
Fun Fact: John Barrowman is a Scottish, Gay man who learned to speak with an American accent because he was bullied at a young age when he moved to the U.S.. He's very flamboyant in real life and in the series and beloved by many.
Moffat once said in an interview that the best Doctor Who adversaries are ones that have a thing that kids can repeat at one another in the playground ("are you my mummy?", "EXTERMINATE" etc)
26:42 - Albion Hospital is indeed an easter egg! It's the same hospital they brought the pig to in Aliens of London (pt. 1 of the Slitheen story). Also, _technically_ speaking, the tower is these days called the Elizabeth Tower, and _technically_ speaking Big Ben is only the bell, but pretty much everyone in Britain calls the whole tower Big Ben as well.
@@Deathbird_Mitch I think it's technically called the "Great Clock of Westminster" but I never hear anyone call it that. The bell, the clock and the tower are all usually Big Ben in common parlance.
Fun fact that always amuses me: Albion Hospital's Dr. Constantine is played by Richard Wilson, a well-known British sitcom actor. He went on to star in the BBC series Merlin as the medieval equivalent of a doctor, where the whole aim of the show was to "unite the lands of Albion" (an older name for Great Britain/UK). A number of other Merlin actors show up on Doctor Who, either before or after their time on Merlin, but Wilson was I think the first, so that always amuses me.
Here’s a thing: I rewatched Jeremy Brett’s Sherlock Holmes not too long ago, and noticed Wilson in that. He was in The Adventures of the Red-Headed League, as was another actor who appears in a future episode (in relation to this one) of Who. Small world, this. :)
"Scanning for tech is the first thing I would do." Yeah but then you would have gone straight to the Chula ship and missed the opportunity to stumble on all sorts of useful information. It would be like going down stairs in a dungeon before fully exploring the level you're on.
Even worse - scanning for tech takes them straight to the ship, which is empty, and due to be destroyed any minute. Without wandering around first, they don't find the empty child, the time agent, or the little nano-robots. So they just hop back in the box...
Thanks to Moffat, I can't even look at gas masks anymore. Without thinking it's going to say, "Are you my Mummy?" A brilliant episode though, can't wait for you to react to the next one.
Moffat wrote some memorable Episodes. He is also well known for his quest to make you so scared of anything that you want to hide under your bed.... and then make you afraid of your bed.
Thankfully his script about teddy bears actually being a savage alien life form who psychically feed off of the nightmares of sleeping children was never produced and remains locked in the same cellar as the script with the hand-eating postboxes.
This episode scared my niece so much she has never watched Doctor Who ever again. John is an accomplished musical theater guy on both sides of the”the pond”. He goes on write a series of books with his sister. I loved him ever since this episode!
22:23 People call it Big Ben, but that's the name of the bell itself. The tower is Elizabeth Tower, part of the Palace of Westminster, which contains the houses of Parliament.
It was only named the Elizabeth Tower in 2012, seven years after this episode was filmed. Before that it was commonly known as Big Ben after the bell inside. Certainly no one was calling it "The Clock Tower" or "The Clock Tower of the Palace of Westminster".
This is one of my favorites from the RTD era. "Are you my mummy?" is so creepy. Didn't know Moffat did this episode. Makes sense all my favorite episodes from the RTD era ended up being Moffat episodes.
Angela:”What am I doing with my life?!” Me:Making us cackle at things like “Shake your meat” and all of the other funny things you say! Thank you. I really needed that laugh! 😂🤣
There's an old story about John Barrowman (Cap'n Jack) that he was turned down for the role of Will in Will and Grace because he was "too gay" O.o *correction* I had this backward! He played the character "too straight" or not stereotypically gay enough, shout out to Peter and Bristow for correcting me! Joke's on them though, he became a beloved gay icon the world over anyway!
You got it wrong, it was that he was "too straight". As in, he wasn't stereotypical gay enough, despite being an actual gay man. So instead they cast a straight actor who could act "more gay".
People telling Americans to not call the Clock on the Elizabeth Tower Big Ben are just being pedantic for the sake of it. Everyone in the UK calls it Big Ben even though we know that's actually the name of the Bell. I remember these episodes airing- they were proper scary! All the kids at school were wandering around for a week or so chanting "Are you my mummy?" We had to wait a week between episodes to find out what on Earth was going on..... The wait between episodes was always a week. The two weeks Matt referred to was the amount of time they spent shooting each episode - so for the cast and crew, it was a new adventure every two weeks.
It's not just Americans who call it Big Ben and don't know it's not the actual name of the tower. I'm from Switzerland and everyone here calls it Big Ben too. I only very recently learned it's just the name of the bell.
@@AmarthwenNarmacil My point is that we in the UK call it Big Ben too - even though we know it's the bell really. So people correcting foreigners from anywhere are just being petty.
@@carolineskipper6976 I'd even posit that a lot of British people have no idea that it's not technically Big Ben. Everyone calls it Big Ben regardless!
There's such a thing as a metanym, where a word or phrase stands in for something else by common usage. For example, "Wall Street is nervous". The street itself has no emotions, but we all know that this means, specifically, the US stock market, more generally, the business world in the USA.
The Last Dalek and the Empty Child define Eccleston's Doctor for me. His portrayal of the trauma of surviving the Time War to the hopeful redemption of saving everyone in this tiny village was perfect.
I don't disagree with your point. Eccleston said in an interview once that he's often known for being good at playing emotionally tortured moments, but here he demonstrates complete mastery over the whole spectrum of emotion from deepest rage to utmost joy. EVERYBODY LIVES! HOWEVER... Tiny Village?! They're in the middle of London! I suppose you could just mean the neighbourhood, such as how the boroughs of London are sometimes called villages, but that choice of words still stuck out to me; and after all, the Nanogenes were a threat to the whole world, not just this little area.
@@gazzamanazza4pm Oh, I think "EVERYBODY LIVES" is a direct extension of the tortured moments. He's jubilant of course, but there's something just a little extra manic in his performance that gives you the sense that he really, really needed a win.
The reason why her father's death is the fixed point is that Rose would probably not have dropped out of school if her father were still alive. SHe wouldn't be working in that shop. As a result of this whole situation, she would never meet the doctor and save his father. So there is a huge paradox.
@Djorgal I disagree with “always”, but not by much. As a general rule, yep; paradoxen abound. There is the odd exception, tho. I can think of a few. I’d argue one of the Harry Potter stories has one of the more famous in recent memory. Side note: the ones where they don’t create paradoxes are some of my faves. :) The giant caveat to all the is is that : it may depend on one’s definition of “paradox”. FWIW I generally go with “if the complete chronological version of the story being told doesn’t change as a result of time travel, there’s no paradox”.
@@noahrobin1941 I agree that those are the best time travel stories, but it isn't paradox free. Specifically, it's known as the ontological paradox and it allows circular causation. Imagine a time traveler who's a fan of Shakespeare. He goes back in time to meet the bard himself, but to his dismay he finds that the man is just a schmuck with no inspiration whatsoever. Our time traveler realizes that at this rate, Shakespeare's never gonna write anything and the world will be deprived of his work. He decides to do something about it, and since he's such a great fan, he knows all of Shakespeare's work by heart (or maybe it's stored in his phone) and gives it to Shakespeare to publish as his own. Shakespeare is a charlatan, but no one's the wiser, so history is unchanged. No paradox, right? Except. Who wrote Macbeth? Shakespeare didn't, it was just handed to him by the time traveler, and the time traveler didn't write it either. There's the ontological paradox. Terminator 1, Harry Potter, Fry being his own grandpa in Futurama. I love those time travel stories, but they aren't paradox free. It's just a bit less blatant than others. P.S : You say you disagree with me saying "always". I didn't. I said "any". That's sensibly the same thing, true, but I didn't use that word :)
That is indeed John Barrowman, who is probably one of the most popular characters introduced in the revival series. I even named my cat after Jack Harkness because he's the most affectionate cat I've ever had. Even vets have told me "your cat is so lovey!"
Steven Moffat: Making ordinary things terrifying and creating creepy catchphrases since 2005. His episodes are some of the best, but do tend towards horror at times. DW was broadcast weekly, but I think the episodes took longer to film. They were also filmed somewhat out of order, probably due to availability of people, locations etc.
Which is why I've always found it odd that Fable is set in Albion. It's become a bit of a fantasy thing, maybe because people link it to older times and stories like King Arthur?
The general rule in Doctor Who is that you're ok affecting events you're not already intimately tied to, but bad stuff happens if you change anything you're a big part of. There are also certain "fixed" points that will cause bad stuff if *anyone* interferes with them - the Doctor can usually recognise these. The number of edge cases is enormous, however.
About the last episode, I think it's less that Rose's dad dying is a fixed point in time, and more that by saving him, Rose had changed her own personal timeline. Her life would have been very different had she grown up with her dad around - maybe she'd never have met the Doctor at all, or even if she had, she may not have agreed to travel with him (implication in the episode being that she said yes when he mentioned time travel so that she could see her dad) and even if things did play out similarly, they would have had no reason to be there on that date, since her dad didn't die. So she wouldn't have then come back in time to see his death, meaning she didn't save him, and round and round it goes. Paradox. Love this two-part episode, though. It's probably my favourite story of S1.
The theories are DELIGHTFUL, whether wrong or right, don't feel bad about throwing them out! It's engaging and funny, and sure beats you sitting there in silence instead. :)
Yes I love some of your thoughts before and after the episode even though this show is very much all over the place sometimes and not the easiest to predict
My opinion of Stephen Moffat is that he writes *amazing* one or two episode stories, but falls apart if he has to write longer arcs. The longer the arc, the more he falls apart. So whenever there's a one-off Moffat story, you know you're in for a wonderful treat!
@@salyx Sherlock could have been so good, but the more it went on, the more I was like, "WTF is happening with this plot?" 😂 I stopped watching when it changed from being a detective show to being a government conspiracy show.
Theorizing isn't annoying. It's the best part of reactions. If you were to theorize that Thor, Batman, and Yoda are going to fly in on the SS enterprise to save the day, then I'd question what show you were watching but generally speaking I enjoy the theorizing.
idk... even that sort of story isn't terribly far outside Doctor Who's wheelhouse, _especially_ in the comics, and the Land of Fiction is also a thing. Doctor Who is basically the dream setting to write for!
John Barrowman is fantastic, and the character of Captain Jack is one of the best characters from Doctor Who. He has a spin-off series called Torchwood, but I only saw a few episodes of it. I was fortunate to meet him at a convention and apologized to him for not watching all of Torchwood yet. He said, "You're forgiven for your lack of wood" 😂 Truly one of the best
I was watching a classic movie or something with my grandmother years ago. This was also when swing music was back and I was playing it for her all the time in the car. She and her family had had a really, really rough Great Depression. They lived just outside Atlantic City where all the big bands came to play and it was an R&R stop for the soldiers. During the movie, she leans over to me and said, "I know there was a war on, but it was a really good time."
Brit here, I know that technically it's only the bell that's called Big Ben but i can reassure you that most Brits called the clock Big Ben too so don't feel bad.
I obviously saw John Barrowman in this way before he was in Arrow. I was shocked seeing him turn up there considering what his character is like in that show. Jack is a time agent rather than a time lord. Time agent is a job while time lord is a species (kind of). We tend to call it Big Ben too. Technically Big Ben is just the name of the bell while the tower is the Elizabeth Tower. That must be so tough for your friend going through post partum psychosis. It must be so terrifying. They did an episode about it on Call the Midwife (which is an excellent show by the way) and it was heartbreaking for all involved.
Love CtM, but I did love the earlier seasons a bit more. Simply because i'm a history buff, so seeing things from that far back was more interesting to me...
Dr. Constantine is played by Richard Wilson known to the younger generations as Gaius the Court Physician from the BBC fantasy drama Merlin, (several other actors who played key roles in that adaptation of Arthurian Legend turn up in the RTD era, 3 of the ‘several’ have larger speaking roles in single episodes, and the 4th is a minor character who appears in one scene as far as I’m aware.)
Been waiting for you to watch this two-parter. More than anything else in that first season, *this* two-parter is what told me what The Doctor epitomizes.
@@fanthonyfictions I imagine it's because they have patreon or a TH-cam membership or something that gives them early access. That or they have a Tardis of their own!
Personally I think RTD is a better showrunner and does better-written whole-season arcs. But when it comes to individual stories, be they single episodes or two-parters, Steven Moffat is possibly the best writer Doctor Who has ever had.
@@jthomann71 community tab tho... FLG and editors took a bit of a break over the holiday. which good on them. the youtube grind especially being work from home can be tough to distance yourself and take a break. i dont even do youtube just work for the family business doing data entry and i havent had a day off in 5 years despite my family telling me i should. some days its 6am to 10pm. OCD and my mentality.... im on the pc all day anyway and the works there... how can i relax and game when works going to be piling up?
First things first: Love the t-shirt! Go Tigers!!! Second: Welcome back. I hope you had a great vacation, but glad you're back to Doctor Who. Yes, Steven Moffat wrote some of the best Dr. Who episodes. Some say his time as showrunner was ... uneven, but personally I don't find anything worth complaining about. Somehow it doesn't seem fair that you get to watch this double episode in one go, but we have to wait a week to see your reaction! 😛
I found out recently that “Albion” is simply a name often given to mythologized versions of old England, so when it appears in the show (it does several times over the course of modern Who) it gets used like “555” gets used as an area code in Hollywood productions. It’s kind of a nod to the ancient mythology of the British isles, but it keeps them from having to use real names, like in this case having to use a real hospital name from the time of the London Blitz. I think that’s very neat, personally. But not, strictly speaking, an Easter egg, so much. Starting with this episode through the end of the first season was what cemented this show for me. Forever my number one show, the very top of my personal pantheon. ❤️
There's also a less pleasant modern(ish) use of 'Albion', the phrase 'Perfidious Albion' - which refers to an alleged culture of political treachery... but typically it's used to specifically mean England, and is only a couple of hundred years old as an expression. Also, in the 1980s British TV take on Robin Hood, 'Robin of Sherwood', Robin's mystical sword was named Albion...
Oooohhhhh gosh, I'm so excited to see your reaction to the second part!! Also, it's hard not to immediately fall in love with Jack dancing on top of a cloaked spaceship next to (I'm saying it) Big Ben 😜 - Kat
Loved your embarrassed look when you realized what you said about shaking your meat. I guess sometimes words come out before we realize that people might see it as meaning something else.
I haven't even watched yet but I had to comment to tell you that this is my #1 favorite episode/storyline in the entire show. And I've been really looking forward to your reaction!
Love the little touch in this - when asking the kids why the came back to London after being evacuated to the countryside, one just quitely says 'there was a man...'
This is one of my favorite two parters in Doctor Who. It has a very satisfying ending and it introduces Captain Jack Harkness who is such an interesting character. Can’t wait to see your reaction to the second part and the rest of the season!
This two parter is one of the greats in the show’s long history, and also the first one written by Steven Moffat in this revival series (2005-2024 so far). Once you’re caught up, you can google it and find out just how many times this man knocked it out of the park over the years with his writing (seriously, the man has written like 50 Doctor Who episode, and, in average, they’re all Fantastic!… see what I did there?)
I love your editor. Thought I was done, then the snapping at the end took the hot and cold comments earlier over the top. It's just so enjoyable, thanks.
I for one love you throwing out theories every couple minutes. Doctor Who at its core is a science based mystery adventure show, at least usually. Trying to puzzle out the mystery before Doc and the companion is part oof the fun!! (just wait until you get to the end of 10 and all of 11 lol) still one of the best early NuWho eps, man. For some reason this just brought me back to watching this for the first time and how genuinely horrofying that mask transformation was. (and also just. Jack. love him)
The show that had a Constantine was _The Sandman_ where one of the changes they made to the source material was Lady Joanna Constantine instead of John Constantine (since the latter is bound up in other rights, apparently a sequel to the Keanu Reeves-starring movie is even coming).
I am so glad that you are on this Doctor Who journey; that you are clearly enjoying it; and that you are immersed into Ecclestons run! ❤ Others will say, oh just wait until you get to this Doctor, or that one, or that you should be delving into the classic Doctors more... Simply savour the here and now (ironically). Ecclestons is a fantastic Doctor that is too often overlooked or even underappreciated. And he is a wonderful intro to this universe which I am pleased to note that you will probably miss when he bows out. Have fun with these stories and be reassured that there are 60 years of other adventures waiting for you at your leisure. 😁❤️
Jack literally has both a belt and suspenders because he can’t keep his pants on.
"How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders, a man who can't even trust his pants?"
Easy there, Fonda.
that's possibly my second favourite fact about Jack :D
Well that certainly was the case behind the scenes
"The Ballad of Russell and Julie" even had a line about it! (sung by Catherine Tate and David Tennant, it is available on YT,)
Are you kidding?! Theorizing is what Doctor Who fans DO!
There are NO wrong questions except those unasked.
There are NO wrong answers in Doctor Who, Just unwritten scripts.
Especially Moffat stories.
But that's just a theory - A WHO THEORY.
Doctor Who?
@@ActuallyMori You said the thing! You said the thing!
When he said, "Before this war I was a Father and A Grandfather. Now I am neither but I'm still a Doctor." Doctor said, "I know the Felling"❤
This hits harder for those of us who've seen the classic series.
The sudden 180° the moment she saw how handsome Jack was... 😂
"Are you my daddy?" 😍
"i was just saying hello!"
🚩🚩
@@CyberBeep_kenshi For you, that's flirting
Everyone calls it Big Ben.
Technically the bell in the tower is called Big Ben, the tower itself is called the Elizabeth Tower, the tower being part of the massive Parliament building.
Since we're being pedantic, the building is called the Palace of Westminster.
And if you want to be even pedanticker, it's the Great Bell of the Great Clock of Westminster.
Before 2012 it wasn't called Elizabeth Tower, just the Clock Tower.
Big Ben is inside Elizabeth?
@@TheBS1000 Alright, now - steady on. 🤣
"If you want feel free to shake your meat" perfect accidentally intro for the the episode that brings us Captain Jack Harkness
Fun Fact: John Barrowman is a Scottish, Gay man who learned to speak with an American accent because he was bullied at a young age when he moved to the U.S.. He's very flamboyant in real life and in the series and beloved by many.
He seems very bi
@@Dularr He's a good actor.
Well, Canada.
Torchwood, man that series was dark. John is a really good actor imho
@@Dularr he's just that good an actor. But he is gay. Said himself he's a "Gold Star Gay".
Imagine watching that gas-mask grow out of his face as a small child. There are few images burned into my memory in such clarity as that one.
Moffat once said in an interview that the best Doctor Who adversaries are ones that have a thing that kids can repeat at one another in the playground ("are you my mummy?", "EXTERMINATE" etc)
Or where someone just keeps repeating what you're saying over and over!
@@OmegaSoypreme
Or where someone just keeps repeating what you're saying over and over
Or where some...(hang on, I was about say that. Which means...oh crap)
Which he also goes against then because he wrote the weeping angels, soooo...
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If you say any more, it will be a spoiler
26:42 - Albion Hospital is indeed an easter egg! It's the same hospital they brought the pig to in Aliens of London (pt. 1 of the Slitheen story).
Also, _technically_ speaking, the tower is these days called the Elizabeth Tower, and _technically_ speaking Big Ben is only the bell, but pretty much everyone in Britain calls the whole tower Big Ben as well.
Does the clock have a name? I always think of the clock when I refer to Big Ben, and Big Ben's tower.
@@Deathbird_Mitch I think it's technically called the "Great Clock of Westminster" but I never hear anyone call it that. The bell, the clock and the tower are all usually Big Ben in common parlance.
Fun fact that always amuses me: Albion Hospital's Dr. Constantine is played by Richard Wilson, a well-known British sitcom actor. He went on to star in the BBC series Merlin as the medieval equivalent of a doctor, where the whole aim of the show was to "unite the lands of Albion" (an older name for Great Britain/UK). A number of other Merlin actors show up on Doctor Who, either before or after their time on Merlin, but Wilson was I think the first, so that always amuses me.
Here’s a thing: I rewatched Jeremy Brett’s Sherlock Holmes not too long ago, and noticed Wilson in that. He was in The Adventures of the Red-Headed League, as was another actor who appears in a future episode (in relation to this one) of Who. Small world, this. :)
Thirsty Angela is best Angela
Theorizing Angela is best Angela
Sad Angela makes us sad.
We love our Angela
You forgot blushing embarrassed Angela after the meat/shake line got reversed.…
All of this is correct.
"Are you our Angela?"
all are True
"Scanning for tech is the first thing I would do."
Yeah but then you would have gone straight to the Chula ship and missed the opportunity to stumble on all sorts of useful information. It would be like going down stairs in a dungeon before fully exploring the level you're on.
Even worse - scanning for tech takes them straight to the ship, which is empty, and due to be destroyed any minute.
Without wandering around first, they don't find the empty child, the time agent, or the little nano-robots. So they just hop back in the box...
It's like going down a level before going up a level...
This one is a deep cut, it's understandable if you haven't heard of it.
@@happyslapsgiving5421 Order of the Stick?
Alright Himmel, calm down.
The Doctor relies on intuition and investigation, not tech. It's why he's ultimately so effective - he doesn't NEED anything but himself.
Thanks to Moffat, I can't even look at gas masks anymore. Without thinking it's going to say, "Are you my Mummy?"
A brilliant episode though, can't wait for you to react to the next one.
I was in the military when this aired, we all said this every time we had to do a gas mask drill.
That line and "Hey! Who turned out the lights?" have to be some of the creepiest ways to ID a Whovian
Moffat wrote some memorable Episodes. He is also well known for his quest to make you so scared of anything that you want to hide under your bed.... and then make you afraid of your bed.
Thankfully his script about teddy bears actually being a savage alien life form who psychically feed off of the nightmares of sleeping children was never produced and remains locked in the same cellar as the script with the hand-eating postboxes.
@petersvillage7447 ACK! New nightmare unlocked! Thanks for that 😱 lol
@@petersvillage7447imagine the Night Terrors episode
This episode scared my niece so much she has never watched Doctor Who ever again. John is an accomplished musical theater guy on both sides of the”the pond”. He goes on write a series of books with his sister. I loved him ever since this episode!
I can't judge her i was all grown up when i watched and needed a time after it too, but say to her that is worth it and a lot of fun too
Everyone calls it Big Ben. You’re okay.
The Clock tower is called The Elizabeth Tower and Big Ben is one of the bells.
22:23 People call it Big Ben, but that's the name of the bell itself. The tower is Elizabeth Tower, part of the Palace of Westminster, which contains the houses of Parliament.
It was only named the Elizabeth Tower in 2012, seven years after this episode was filmed. Before that it was commonly known as Big Ben after the bell inside. Certainly no one was calling it "The Clock Tower" or "The Clock Tower of the Palace of Westminster".
You said "how do I know him" and I immediately said out loud "Probably Arrow". XD
I was directing Nick Briggs (voice of the Dalek) last week and told him you'd had no idea what a Dalek was - he loved that 😂
@@ACtheLegend This is awesome
Welcome to Stephan Moffet freaking you out. This will not be the last time.
Ahh the legendary Captain Jack Harkness makes his debut! Played by the legendary John Barrowman too!
It's just kind of a shame about what John Barrowman has become legendary FOR, in the last few years.
Whoop
Barrowman! \*shakes fist*
Yeah ! I know!
technically, we have already seen him, but spoilers I guess (oh, and "spoilers" is also a spoiler)
Before watching this, I can only say: I hope you enjoy this two-parter as much as I and so many others did
This is one of my favorites from the RTD era. "Are you my mummy?" is so creepy. Didn't know Moffat did this episode. Makes sense all my favorite episodes from the RTD era ended up being Moffat episodes.
Angela:”What am I doing with my life?!” Me:Making us cackle at things like “Shake your meat” and all of the other funny things you say! Thank you. I really needed that laugh! 😂🤣
Yes, indeed. John Barrowman was in Arrow. He was Malcolm Merlin - the Black Arrow.
He's perfectly cast as Jack Harkness
That’s Merlin with a Y.
There's an old story about John Barrowman (Cap'n Jack) that he was turned down for the role of Will in Will and Grace because he was "too gay" O.o *correction* I had this backward! He played the character "too straight" or not stereotypically gay enough, shout out to Peter and Bristow for correcting me!
Joke's on them though, he became a beloved gay icon the world over anyway!
I thought it was he wasn't gay enough? (i.e. he just played Will as a real person who happens to be gay, rather than making it obvious he was gay.)
You got it wrong, it was that he was "too straight". As in, he wasn't stereotypical gay enough, despite being an actual gay man. So instead they cast a straight actor who could act "more gay".
@@peterlewis2178 @therealpbristow thanks for the correction guys, had my wires crossed
People telling Americans to not call the Clock on the Elizabeth Tower Big Ben are just being pedantic for the sake of it. Everyone in the UK calls it Big Ben even though we know that's actually the name of the Bell.
I remember these episodes airing- they were proper scary! All the kids at school were wandering around for a week or so chanting "Are you my mummy?" We had to wait a week between episodes to find out what on Earth was going on.....
The wait between episodes was always a week. The two weeks Matt referred to was the amount of time they spent shooting each episode - so for the cast and crew, it was a new adventure every two weeks.
pedantic much, I get It your good.
It's not just Americans who call it Big Ben and don't know it's not the actual name of the tower. I'm from Switzerland and everyone here calls it Big Ben too. I only very recently learned it's just the name of the bell.
@@AmarthwenNarmacil My point is that we in the UK call it Big Ben too - even though we know it's the bell really. So people correcting foreigners from anywhere are just being petty.
@@carolineskipper6976 I'd even posit that a lot of British people have no idea that it's not technically Big Ben. Everyone calls it Big Ben regardless!
There's such a thing as a metanym, where a word or phrase stands in for something else by common usage.
For example, "Wall Street is nervous". The street itself has no emotions, but we all know that this means, specifically, the US stock market, more generally, the business world in the USA.
BAHAHAAHAH Who ever your Editor is deserves a raise for not cutting that meat part XD 10/10 Top Tier Content and Why i love this channel XD
The Last Dalek and the Empty Child define Eccleston's Doctor for me. His portrayal of the trauma of surviving the Time War to the hopeful redemption of saving everyone in this tiny village was perfect.
I don't disagree with your point. Eccleston said in an interview once that he's often known for being good at playing emotionally tortured moments, but here he demonstrates complete mastery over the whole spectrum of emotion from deepest rage to utmost joy. EVERYBODY LIVES!
HOWEVER... Tiny Village?! They're in the middle of London! I suppose you could just mean the neighbourhood, such as how the boroughs of London are sometimes called villages, but that choice of words still stuck out to me; and after all, the Nanogenes were a threat to the whole world, not just this little area.
@@gazzamanazza4pm Oh, I think "EVERYBODY LIVES" is a direct extension of the tortured moments. He's jubilant of course, but there's something just a little extra manic in his performance that gives you the sense that he really, really needed a win.
@@toddjh Oh, it absolutely is. Maybe the only reason The Doctor can feel such deep joy is because he can also feel such deep anguish.
@@gazzamanazza4pmYou are correct and i only focused on the small group of people shown in the episode. I apologize for my mistake.
@@toddjhspoilers!
The reason why her father's death is the fixed point is that Rose would probably not have dropped out of school if her father were still alive. SHe wouldn't be working in that shop. As a result of this whole situation, she would never meet the doctor and save his father. So there is a huge paradox.
There are huge paradoxes in any backward time travel anyway.
it is even simpler than that. If her father lived she wouldn't have a reason to go back and save him, thus causing him to die.
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@Djorgal I disagree with “always”, but not by much. As a general rule, yep; paradoxen abound. There is the odd exception, tho. I can think of a few. I’d argue one of the Harry Potter stories has one of the more famous in recent memory. Side note: the ones where they don’t create paradoxes are some of my faves. :) The giant caveat to all the is is that : it may depend on one’s definition of “paradox”. FWIW I generally go with “if the complete chronological version of the story being told doesn’t change as a result of time travel, there’s no paradox”.
@@noahrobin1941 I agree that those are the best time travel stories, but it isn't paradox free. Specifically, it's known as the ontological paradox and it allows circular causation.
Imagine a time traveler who's a fan of Shakespeare. He goes back in time to meet the bard himself, but to his dismay he finds that the man is just a schmuck with no inspiration whatsoever.
Our time traveler realizes that at this rate, Shakespeare's never gonna write anything and the world will be deprived of his work. He decides to do something about it, and since he's such a great fan, he knows all of Shakespeare's work by heart (or maybe it's stored in his phone) and gives it to Shakespeare to publish as his own.
Shakespeare is a charlatan, but no one's the wiser, so history is unchanged. No paradox, right?
Except. Who wrote Macbeth? Shakespeare didn't, it was just handed to him by the time traveler, and the time traveler didn't write it either. There's the ontological paradox.
Terminator 1, Harry Potter, Fry being his own grandpa in Futurama. I love those time travel stories, but they aren't paradox free. It's just a bit less blatant than others.
P.S : You say you disagree with me saying "always". I didn't. I said "any". That's sensibly the same thing, true, but I didn't use that word :)
Fun fact, John Barrowman has been with his husband since 1993. They entered a civil union in 2006, and officially married in 2013.
There are so many things this show will embed into your life. Snapping fingers and "Are you my mummy?", are just the beginning.
That is indeed John Barrowman, who is probably one of the most popular characters introduced in the revival series. I even named my cat after Jack Harkness because he's the most affectionate cat I've ever had. Even vets have told me "your cat is so lovey!"
Steven Moffat: Making ordinary things terrifying and creating creepy catchphrases since 2005. His episodes are some of the best, but do tend towards horror at times.
DW was broadcast weekly, but I think the episodes took longer to film. They were also filmed somewhat out of order, probably due to availability of people, locations etc.
Moffat took "kids hiding behind the sofa" very seriously.
Albion is another name for the UK and the Albion Hospital was where the Pig creature was taken to in Aliens of London
Which is why I've always found it odd that Fable is set in Albion. It's become a bit of a fantasy thing, maybe because people link it to older times and stories like King Arthur?
Was hoping someone had mentioned the Aliens of London connection. It's why the camera shot panned up the way it did.
The general rule in Doctor Who is that you're ok affecting events you're not already intimately tied to, but bad stuff happens if you change anything you're a big part of. There are also certain "fixed" points that will cause bad stuff if *anyone* interferes with them - the Doctor can usually recognise these. The number of edge cases is enormous, however.
About the last episode, I think it's less that Rose's dad dying is a fixed point in time, and more that by saving him, Rose had changed her own personal timeline. Her life would have been very different had she grown up with her dad around - maybe she'd never have met the Doctor at all, or even if she had, she may not have agreed to travel with him (implication in the episode being that she said yes when he mentioned time travel so that she could see her dad) and even if things did play out similarly, they would have had no reason to be there on that date, since her dad didn't die. So she wouldn't have then come back in time to see his death, meaning she didn't save him, and round and round it goes. Paradox.
Love this two-part episode, though. It's probably my favourite story of S1.
The theories are DELIGHTFUL, whether wrong or right, don't feel bad about throwing them out! It's engaging and funny, and sure beats you sitting there in silence instead. :)
Yes I love some of your thoughts before and after the episode even though this show is very much all over the place sometimes and not the easiest to predict
Welcome back funnylilgalreacts, I've missed your ( Doctor Who ) reactions, humour and smile. :)
My opinion of Stephen Moffat is that he writes *amazing* one or two episode stories, but falls apart if he has to write longer arcs. The longer the arc, the more he falls apart. So whenever there's a one-off Moffat story, you know you're in for a wonderful treat!
Agreed.
@@salyx Sherlock could have been so good, but the more it went on, the more I was like, "WTF is happening with this plot?" 😂 I stopped watching when it changed from being a detective show to being a government conspiracy show.
This two-parter was the point at which we understood that the Doctor Who revival team really got who he was.
Top ten episode all-time, maybe top 5.
Theorizing isn't annoying. It's the best part of reactions. If you were to theorize that Thor, Batman, and Yoda are going to fly in on the SS enterprise to save the day, then I'd question what show you were watching but generally speaking I enjoy the theorizing.
idk... even that sort of story isn't terribly far outside Doctor Who's wheelhouse, _especially_ in the comics, and the Land of Fiction is also a thing.
Doctor Who is basically the dream setting to write for!
I mean, they’ve teamed up with Disney now so two out of three…..
@@LightLMN Assimalation2 comic book has entered the chat.
"We need a TARDIS cat"... the current TARDIS dog prob wouldn't like that.
DELETE THIS, WTF
ah yes one of the nightmare fuel episodes ...
John Barrowman is fantastic, and the character of Captain Jack is one of the best characters from Doctor Who. He has a spin-off series called Torchwood, but I only saw a few episodes of it. I was fortunate to meet him at a convention and apologized to him for not watching all of Torchwood yet. He said, "You're forgiven for your lack of wood" 😂 Truly one of the best
I was watching a classic movie or something with my grandmother years ago. This was also when swing music was back and I was playing it for her all the time in the car. She and her family had had a really, really rough Great Depression. They lived just outside Atlantic City where all the big bands came to play and it was an R&R stop for the soldiers. During the movie, she leans over to me and said, "I know there was a war on, but it was a really good time."
*Sees Jack Harkness*
"Oh he's very attractive."
Correct.
Captain Jack Harkness😍 one of the best characters!!!.....
Also.....I love and hate that episode.....damn this child is creepy!!!
Oh my god, seeing Jack’s looks affect people irl just makes the running joke all the more real
Brit here, I know that technically it's only the bell that's called Big Ben but i can reassure you that most Brits called the clock Big Ben too so don't feel bad.
"Typical"...
Not even 2 minutes later, thirsts over Jack...
I obviously saw John Barrowman in this way before he was in Arrow. I was shocked seeing him turn up there considering what his character is like in that show. Jack is a time agent rather than a time lord. Time agent is a job while time lord is a species (kind of).
We tend to call it Big Ben too. Technically Big Ben is just the name of the bell while the tower is the Elizabeth Tower.
That must be so tough for your friend going through post partum psychosis. It must be so terrifying. They did an episode about it on Call the Midwife (which is an excellent show by the way) and it was heartbreaking for all involved.
Love CtM, but I did love the earlier seasons a bit more. Simply because i'm a history buff, so seeing things from that far back was more interesting to me...
Dr. Constantine is played by Richard Wilson known to the younger generations as Gaius the Court Physician from the BBC fantasy drama Merlin, (several other actors who played key roles in that adaptation of Arthurian Legend turn up in the RTD era, 3 of the ‘several’ have larger speaking roles in single episodes, and the 4th is a minor character who appears in one scene as far as I’m aware.)
"Typical."
Oh, there's very little typical about Captain Jack. 😂
Been waiting for you to watch this two-parter. More than anything else in that first season, *this* two-parter is what told me what The Doctor epitomizes.
Your theories are fun. We all did the same the first time. The show uses a few misdirections to keep you guessing but all will be revealed.
Moffat later becomes the showrunner in later seasons, for me he's the greatest i rly love his stories
Oi, you. Aye, you.
How did you get here two weeks ago?
@@fanthonyfictions I imagine it's because they have patreon or a TH-cam membership or something that gives them early access. That or they have a Tardis of their own!
@@fanthonyfictions No, shit. Time traveler. Also, it's been 3 weeks since the last DW upload.
Personally I think RTD is a better showrunner and does better-written whole-season arcs.
But when it comes to individual stories, be they single episodes or two-parters, Steven Moffat is possibly the best writer Doctor Who has ever had.
@@jthomann71 community tab tho... FLG and editors took a bit of a break over the holiday. which good on them. the youtube grind especially being work from home can be tough to distance yourself and take a break. i dont even do youtube just work for the family business doing data entry and i havent had a day off in 5 years despite my family telling me i should. some days its 6am to 10pm. OCD and my mentality.... im on the pc all day anyway and the works there... how can i relax and game when works going to be piling up?
I'm sorry about your sister, know that we Whovians are here for ya ♥ lovely video, too !
Psychic paper is what the Doctor uses to show people what they expect.
Woo hoo! We are back!
First things first: Love the t-shirt! Go Tigers!!!
Second: Welcome back. I hope you had a great vacation, but glad you're back to Doctor Who.
Yes, Steven Moffat wrote some of the best Dr. Who episodes. Some say his time as showrunner was ... uneven, but personally I don't find anything worth complaining about.
Somehow it doesn't seem fair that you get to watch this double episode in one go, but we have to wait a week to see your reaction! 😛
Whoever had the idea to edit the brain chip opening thing in your forehead whenever you snap on these videos, thank you! That was brilliant lol
I found out recently that “Albion” is simply a name often given to mythologized versions of old England, so when it appears in the show (it does several times over the course of modern Who) it gets used like “555” gets used as an area code in Hollywood productions. It’s kind of a nod to the ancient mythology of the British isles, but it keeps them from having to use real names, like in this case having to use a real hospital name from the time of the London Blitz. I think that’s very neat, personally. But not, strictly speaking, an Easter egg, so much.
Starting with this episode through the end of the first season was what cemented this show for me. Forever my number one show, the very top of my personal pantheon. ❤️
There's also a less pleasant modern(ish) use of 'Albion', the phrase 'Perfidious Albion' - which refers to an alleged culture of political treachery... but typically it's used to specifically mean England, and is only a couple of hundred years old as an expression. Also, in the 1980s British TV take on Robin Hood, 'Robin of Sherwood', Robin's mystical sword was named Albion...
‘’That’s Rose Tyler in the tardis with the doctor.’’
Oooohhhhh gosh, I'm so excited to see your reaction to the second part!!
Also, it's hard not to immediately fall in love with Jack dancing on top of a cloaked spaceship next to (I'm saying it) Big Ben 😜
- Kat
Awe! Honey ❤️ the coincidence with Jamie… the universe is definitely trying to get a message to you!
"I always think of A League of Their Own" XD That's a good point, that's such a great scene
From what I've learned, Big Ben is just the name of the biggest bell in the tower, and the tower itself is called the Elizabeth Tower.
You can totally float theories during the beginning of Moffat episodes, and that's the great thing they are almost always going to be wrong lol
these intros are going places I never dared imagine and I love it
Thank you Steven Moffat for giving us all nightmares of a kid wearing a task mask when we were young lol
I like hearing your theories. Its fun listening to you try to guess what's happening
We got her everyone, she's definitely going to watch Torchwood
"Psycho Pippi Longstocking..." LOL!!!! THANKS for this!!!!! #DoctorWho #TheEmptyChild #DoctorWhoS12005 #DoctorWhoS1
Loved your embarrassed look when you realized what you said about shaking your meat. I guess sometimes words come out before we realize that people might see it as meaning something else.
I haven't even watched yet but I had to comment to tell you that this is my #1 favorite episode/storyline in the entire show. And I've been really looking forward to your reaction!
Love the little touch in this - when asking the kids why the came back to London after being evacuated to the countryside, one just quitely says 'there was a man...'
That’s the best part about being new to a series all the speculation and opinions
John Barowman is the white Billy Dee Williams. He confuses smiling with acting, but he's got enough charisma that he can frequently pull it off.
...And now you've met Captain Jack! Big milestone here.
This is one of my favorite two parters in Doctor Who. It has a very satisfying ending and it introduces Captain Jack Harkness who is such an interesting character. Can’t wait to see your reaction to the second part and the rest of the season!
This two parter is one of the greats in the show’s long history, and also the first one written by Steven Moffat in this revival series (2005-2024 so far). Once you’re caught up, you can google it and find out just how many times this man knocked it out of the park over the years with his writing (seriously, the man has written like 50 Doctor Who episode, and, in average, they’re all Fantastic!… see what I did there?)
been waiting for this one... this was my gateway
One of the most impactful episodes to me, so creepy and then the end... your connection to Jamie means your going to get all the feels at the end.
This was my first episode of Doctor Who ever and I fell in love with Jack immediately.
I love your editor. Thought I was done, then the snapping at the end took the hot and cold comments earlier over the top. It's just so enjoyable, thanks.
"Who is Captain Jack?"
One of the best characters in the new run... the full answer gets a tad more complicated.
I for one love you throwing out theories every couple minutes. Doctor Who at its core is a science based mystery adventure show, at least usually. Trying to puzzle out the mystery before Doc and the companion is part oof the fun!! (just wait until you get to the end of 10 and all of 11 lol)
still one of the best early NuWho eps, man. For some reason this just brought me back to watching this for the first time and how genuinely horrofying that mask transformation was. (and also just. Jack. love him)
"Are you my mummy? People have been putting that in the comments." that made me crack up because MOST of them are probably references xD
I don't know if it is an intentional easter egg, but Albion is the dream nation in Merlin and Constantines actor played Merlins mentor.
Just for clarity, "Big Ben" is the bell for the clock. It is at the same location, so if you are near the clock, you are also near the bell.
this series is good at going at base fears, and it's usually a great ingredient
WELCOME BACK!!!! I’ve missed these so much!!
The show that had a Constantine was _The Sandman_ where one of the changes they made to the source material was Lady Joanna Constantine instead of John Constantine (since the latter is bound up in other rights, apparently a sequel to the Keanu Reeves-starring movie is even coming).
I am so glad that you are on this Doctor Who journey; that you are clearly enjoying it; and that you are immersed into Ecclestons run!
❤
Others will say, oh just wait until you get to this Doctor, or that one, or that you should be delving into the classic Doctors more... Simply savour the here and now (ironically). Ecclestons is a fantastic Doctor that is too often overlooked or even underappreciated. And he is a wonderful intro to this universe which I am pleased to note that you will probably miss when he bows out.
Have fun with these stories and be reassured that there are 60 years of other adventures waiting for you at your leisure.
😁❤️
It was a weekly show and a Christmas special. One season of David Tenant was just a bunch of specials throughout the year.
I really like jack. I like what they did with his character
The thing about some Moffat episodes is that you definitely don't want to Blink and miss something😁
Spoilers 🙂
Well, in general, people do call it Big Ben.
"Not the clock or the tower,
But the bell that tolls the hour."