It's nice to see a channel with actual warriors content! I've been playing since DW2 and have every game since. Mainstream reviews always say "same game as previous with a higher number" Same reviewers will praise madden and other sports games. Its refreshing how you actually go into detail on what's new, whats better and worse. The warriors games would be more popular if people got your reviews instead of the others.
Thank youuuuu. Sports gamers buy a roster update every year for $60.....every year...they been fooled 21 times......and 4 times.. for a total of 84 times so far....morons but these games change alot each time
Hey! Look at Jim Sterling's reviews of Warriors games He's a huge fan of the series and you could see and hear the passion he has for the games in his reviews. He's critical for the right reasons.
Now I'm really looking forward to Warriors Orochi 5, if they ever decide to make one. Simply because I felt like there could've been so much more from this game that was left unfulfilled. Especially, as you've mentioned, about the story pacing. Maybe if they hear out some of your advice, maybe they'll be on their way in creating a masterpiece. Other than that, the game's music, as with all Warriors games, never disappoint. They're always bangers.
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They need to bring back the triple rush, that was a feature i loved from WO3U especially with the new characters added from DW and SW. It gave you a rush when you executed triple rush combo
I was really bummed when they made the officers really easy to beat as long as you have Trident. And I really miss those days where Lu Bu would just randomly appear and is too strong even for a max level character, then proceeds to chase you down like a maniac.
Simple combat system. No sprinting. The entire battlefield was capable of standing their ground without the player. Some officers rode horses/elephants. The player had a squad of bodyguards. Warriors was perfect that way.
It should have been. Better than a greek god. Seriously still dont know how the hell they connected japan and china’s legends to greek. And no one in the game question it. How did the greek even know about orochi? That ruined the story it felt out of place.
Don't mind orochi 4. It's definitely not perfect but i tend to play this more then I thought i would for some reason. Im not sure if it's that I feel the combat is smoother here then older titles but even with the lack of content the gameplay oddly feels fresh enough compared to previous titles.
I still go back to this game and with the Ultimate package I have more reason. I still prefer to go back to WO3U, but this is fun. That's why I still gave it a good rating.
Characters>Gameplay>Postgame>Music>costumes>Performance>Story, order of importance to me in a Warriors game, WO4U one of my favs, to me, it balances out with O3U. I miss kasumi and ayane tho.
I feel Koei tried to pump too much into the story at the beginning. Holding out on the answers gives the player more reason to continue so they can find those answers. I never felt like I was playing this game for its story. Just its gameplay.
@@ChrisGildart I've pretty much never gave a damn about the story for any of these games, just how fun the slaughter of thousands is. @_@ Still though, WO 3 definitely had the best story of the O series.
I was the same until I started reviewing games. I'm still a gameplay over story person, but if a story doesn't hit me right it will effect my initial playthrough.
I agree that the Ultimate version of Warriors Orochi 4 should be free dlc for those who purchase the vanilla version. (And if I have to put a price tag I would go no more then ten bucks.) Your version of the story mode sounded like a lot of fun and at times I was thinking man if only the writing team could have done something like that for the actual story. So as someone who is looking into getting the Ultimate upgrade, this video sure helps out a lot.
Orochi 3 is still the best for me atmosphere and character wise. Tamamo has quite the interesting concept but I would love to see more of her story in her eyes
Thank you so much! I work really hard to make each year better than the last. Though your comment doesn't have many words, it puts a big smile on my face. :)
One thing I'd do is introducing Achilles in whichever mission the Warriors first go up against the Greek Gods, since he should have been included anyway due to being Greek. Similar to his intro in 3, have him throw down with some of the powerhouse characters: Guan Yu and maybe Zhang Fei or Tadakatsu. Guan Yinping tries to help but gets blown away and Guan Yu, in a rage, attacks Achilles but Achilles knocks his blow aside and badly wounds him. As he's about to finish Guan Yu off, Yinping tries to stop him and in their clash that she's clearly losing, her bracelet activates and gives her her Diefication, to which she overpowers Achilles, and he finds himself fighting against the God of War and his now Diefied daughter and is forced to retreat or saved by Ares/Athena.
I don't know if I would say WO4 has the best roster necessarily. It brings everyone from DW8E and SW4-II plus all the original characters from WO3U, but I feel there are missing pieces. They had the chance to bring back the previous guest characters as well as Spirit of Sanada with WO4U, but they didn't.
1 and 2 was the best and I think I'm the only one who enjoys the classic graphics, the little objectives, and how the minions died and the slow motion slays 1 and 2 is just OG I like 3 and love how you go back in time to the mystics and how orochi came to be, I do wish we could get an English dub BUT I refuse to play the 4th.
I think my biggest gripe about 4 was that you have to do everything. It doesn't feel like battles are going on around you. in the entire story, I only had 2 instances of my units actually killing another unit. Dynasty Warriors 3-5 are still the pinacle because of this.
It's the same in wo3u as well, so I really don't get the love for wo3u over wo4u, it's a very similar game with more characters, yea we lost a few guest characters due to licensing but we gained about 50 new characters that weren't in wo3u
WO3U gave me an experience yesterday that put your gripe on point for me. It's 'The End of Orochi X' battle, a big final battle setup, and I'm 70% of the way up the castle path to Orochi, that fething sorcerer Kiyomori respawns and promptly starts charging up to Buff Orochi X. I throw down a save because I'm about to do something stupid. I don't want to hop on red hair (which I went and got specifically to save time traveling on missions like this!) and go all the way to the other end of the damn map just to kill Kiyomori so I can fight Orochi X without being cheesed. So I push forward, and just as I'm pulling up on Orochi X? The other allied officers down Kiyomori with zero input from me, amusingly seconds after he finishes his buff spell timer. I cheered out loud for Kai and the marry band even as I pulled up on Orochi X to quite literally combo him from full to near dead. (A lot of switching was involved.) One last special attack (Ma Chao kicking him off the platform through his swing for bonus drama.) and the stage was done. It's worth having officers that can get things done, because even if it's going to be rare, those moments stand out.
I got this game during Covid and I was out of work and it got me through that time but I'm revisiting it now and trying to enjoy it without the dread and disgust I felt the entire time. It's been pretty fun. Dynasty warriors 9 was kind of a major fuckup for me because it wasnt the usual mindless arcade style i love.😢
Why not remake Warriors Orochi 1 + 2 + 2 psp content into a all in one game with modern graphic while expanding the story with new chara from DW 9 and SW Spirit of Sanada ? I think it is fine and a good idea. All DW and SW release is basically a remake and expanding of the previous game anyway and it is working fine.
I see everyone saying negative things, but here is a positive for me. The move sets. Having the DW8 move set instead of DW7 is a big deal. Same for samurai games. The combat on DW8 and SW4 is just better than DW7 and SW3. That's a big deal for me.
regarding the story i just treat each of the entries like standalones (and i have never focused on the story in musou games lol im just there for the head empty action and seeing my fav charas in three kingdoms and the sengoku period history)
I could see a scenario where Tamamo/Kyubi and Qin Shi Huang, the main villain of Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce 2, join forces together to destroy the heroes of the Dynasty and Samurai Warriors series and the heroes must join together to defeat this unholy alliance once and for all but it would be a hassle since Dynasty Warriors 9 has a revamped cast of characters yet Samurai Warriors 5 had trimmed down its roster to abide by the story of Oda Nobunaga’s rise to power. I guess, Koei had to use the Dynasty Warriors 9 roster and the Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada roster in order to make Warriors Orochi 5 happen.
@@michaelbandada8330 See, I know how I'd pitch that. "This is an excuse to essentially make assets for the next Samurai Warriors game, since we can just reuse them." The business folk love them some recycling.
Yes!!!! 👊The potential is definitely there, but honestly, everything feels to.....gimmicky. Essentially there is just is TOO much going on. Especially narratively. I didn't even complete 4, because there were just TOO many mechanics to really have fun with any of it. I liked the overall story of WO2, and the execution/mechanics of WO3. Basically like you said, I would like to just go back to the BASIC premise of the Samurai and Dynasty characters (and maybe a HANDFUL of extra Koei characters, e.g. Joan of Arc) crossing over through time to fight through semi-historical settings!
Don Miles yeah that would be so sick. I even mean like just a DW game. i actually 100% DW9 and enjoyed it...even though it was just kind of, meh. But I would like to just see one (DW, or WO) with like an all out treatment
I've never actually played a base "Dynasty Warriors" title. I usually stick to the licensed ones like One Piece, or Zelda. I was curious to see stuff about this one, though.
i really enjoy this game, because of lock on mechanic, feels like playing next level musou game..dont really care about the story, as long the combat are enjoyable, i have time to spend on it, because i know that gonna be a lot of grinding for a better gears.
I love your video, you said everything I felt towards the game since it came out and playing it already. I love this series of the Warriors games. I love the collaboration of different warriors games coming together. If they want to do something big, they need to bring/include EVERYONE (spirit of sanada,all-star and previous installment) add all the costumes back and bring back the game features such as gauntlet, the switch combo from WO3U.
The weapon fusion is way better. You dont have to sort through all the weapons just to get what you want and you can just dismantle all the weapons as you get them
@@wastingtime2380 exactly, i always did that before except this makes things much faster. Managing weapons is my least favorite thing in warriors games
@@moomanchu608 Agreed, weapon management either burns time or stresses me out; Since I would always be like "what if I need this later", or "what was I looking for again?".
EXACTLY why KOEI needs to hire people like you who are great with story and plot. You probrably would be able to tie in Priest Sand and Pigsy, to complete team Sanzan. 🤭❤️🔥
From a gameplay, cast, and presentation standpoint this game is head and shoulders above DW9 imo. The flow of combat here is beyond addictive and visually it ties with SW5 as the most most beautiful warriors game to date.
The whole point of unique magic attacks is they are unique to each character, they are tied to the characters not the sacred treasures, good thing considering there are more characters than treasures, if they were tied to the treasures we would have way less of them
I was more thinking that you would have one unique magic attack per treasure, per character. So if I equipped Xiahou Dun with Laeviten and Ma Chao with the same, they would have their own unique magic with that one treasure.
I wonder what's gonna happen to Warriors Orochi series when the Dynasty Warriors Origin came out. Is it going to be abandon, or change? I think this is very interesting topic for u to discuss a lil bit.
In the vanilla version there are some repeat stages. Just different enemy/ally placement. But Ultimate doesn't do that as much. You do have to go back to some Vanilla stages, but they play differently. If you get WO4U, you should find a good variety of stages.
@@lunatantric6060the game has about 50 more characters than orochi 3 ultimate, so I'll gladly take the 50new characters we got over the what 3 missing guest characters due to licensing, orochi 4 ultimate has the largest roster of characters in the entire musuo genre
@@mathewhosier9739 OH agree but think as a whole I enjoyed the story of 2 and the way you played with the time travel more then the newest. Have them both though and love almost all the games ever put out.
People weren't disappointed about the news at all Didn't really understood why did you said that I mean it's not like it needs to have characters from SW spirit of Sanada Yes it would be nice but it's not necessary
I found people were getting more and more disappointed as more and more news came out, not necessarily that they were disappointed in the announcement of WO4.
I dont know if you are not active in the musou community but people were MAD. They really wanted these characters. I also think they should have added the dw9 characters. Since they ported the outfits from dw9 they could have also given the dw 9 characters a weapon set that was in dw8 empires ( lianshis weapon, yueying, xiaqiao etc.). The inclusion of the missing sw and dw characters could have easily pushed these games especially with dws catastrophical release
@@lukekrieg443 there werent any who got mad . there were some small number of people talking about - ( it woud be nice to have those characters ) but noone really got ~MAD~. there were some complainteds about SW spirit of sanada characters , but about DW9 characters litrely none said anything . If you look even now not much people talk about it but ok. - (sorry for my bad English)
I'm actually fairly new to the Dynasty Warriors franchise, I had played Warriors games before but of franchises I had already known like One Piece and Fire Emblem. Dynasty Warriors 9 was actually my first in the Dynasty series. I was sad to see it wasn't a good one. But I didn't hate it. In fact, it's what got me even more interested in the series because the story is so intriguing to me. Having played that, I saw Orochi 4 coming out and decided I will get it so I can get to know the Dynasty characters even more. And while I still haven't played a Samurai Warriors game, I do recognize some of the characters from Pokemon Conquest. So I got Orochi 4 first day. I didn't know it had to do with gods so that was a pretty cool surprise. However, the game still left me feeling underwhelmed. Glad to see Ultimate fixes some issues but I will not be getting it any time soon. $40 is way too much IMO especially since it only adds 7 characters. Maybe if they added the Furries from Warriors All-Stars and the new characters from 9 then maybe. But for $40 I may as well buy Orochi 3 which seems to be the better one. And it has Sophitia so as a Soul Calibur fan that's really cool.
It's good to know that not i'm the only one who's complaining about the lack of customization (weapons, older costumes). Also how KOEI asked extra money for 1 variation of the color palette editor (which was FREE in WO3U) for Orochi character is just disgusting. On their laziest move ever.
Now what they need to do is add the two girls from dead or alive, the blond ninja girl from ninja garden, and Sophia from soul calibur back in, and add Posiedon/Neptune, Aphrodite/Venus, Hera/Juno and Hercules from Greko Roman mythology and Thor from Norse mythology to the game (seriously, why weren't they added to begin with?!!!!!), plus all of the other gods and goddesses from these pantheons: Egyptian: Ra, Osiris, Is!s, Horus, Seth, Anubis, Thoth, Ahnur, Bastet, and Hathor. Mesopotamian/Babylonian: Gilgamesh, Istar. African/Caribbean/VooDoo: Ogun, Baron Samedi. Japanese: Amaterasu, Sukiomi (the moon god). Celtic: Cernos, Lugh, Cu Chulainn, Morigan. Polonesian/Hawaiian: Pelee. Lovecraftian: Cthuhlu, Cthula, Yogg Saboth, Azathot. Will add more when I think of them. Feel free to leave ant comment(s) and ideas.
They should have added Apollo and Artemis. Creating their designs would have been easy considering that there is a load of art and mythology about them. Mentioning Egyptian gods it would also be mighty easy to place characters like Isis whom has sorcery powers, bloodthirsty Sekhmet and Montu the military god.
For me, Orochi 4 Ultimate is probably among my fav warrior games. The only really dissapointing thing to me that they left out 1 Character from their other Warriors games. They even got Achilles from Warriors Legends of Troy wich most people probably dont even know, yet they didnt implement guts from their Berserk Adaptation. Maybe cause of Manga license, but i dunno. Ryu, Jean from Bladestorm and Achilles are in this, why no guts ?
William would have been so great in this game if you ask me going from fighting demo- I mean yokai to fighting gods and meeting different versions of the characters he met in his own adventure in Nioh, THAT I would have loved to see
Plus no duel mode I really love wo3 duel mode when I play as LuBu I only add hyperarmor for him and my friends removing the cards buffs and add one buff as a rule to balance the game was perfect 😞
The worst thing about this game is not everybody can turn into deification form. At least add DLC strikeforce costumes once more to compensate that KoeiTecmo.
Once any game has over 20 characters, i'm not complaining about having more. so This game having well over 150, i'm definitely not complaining about it missing like 10. And i for damn sure wont complain about a story in a musou game. My main issue was the magic system. Replacing individual specials with generic magic shared across characters was wack. Pirate warriors 4 did it better.
I was so deeply disappointed when I figured orochi x's moveset are a huge downgrade from warriors orochi 3 ultimate.. orochi x is already a stiff moffoka like pls I need the mobility
I would just like to give a quick opinion. Warriors Orochi 3 was the best warriors game. Like ever. Orochi 4 was honestly a serious let down. They seem to think we want story focus. But that doesn't really make a great warriors game. It is a part. What we want is great progression mechanics mixed with a good combat experience. If you can't do that. You don't REALLY have a warriors game I am going to play very much. That and unique mods like in dw8 and sw4-2. And with DW9, DW9E, Orochi 4, SW5. they are going the opposite way. Cutting out all of that. focusing on story. And thats more or less it. The modes become more and more shallow and pointless. Samurai warriors 4 empires while they took risks with the game mode. It just became repetitive and pointless too. They need to hire passionate people who understand what make video games fun. They need to refocus on adding unique modes. Chronicles in sw4 is a great example. Ambition in dw8xl is a great example. Mixed with meaningful combat and action that adds skills based strategy. We gotta get away from button mash to win. We gotta get away from uninspired level design. We GOTTA get away from lack of inspiration and passion in the entries. If we don't its over.
I never expected you to focus that much on your own story in this review. I love it! Also imagine a Warriors Orochi Empires game (Or at the very least have a lot more customization options like Empires.) I'd buy that in an instant!
Yeah I suppose I'll get this eventually now that I know Ryu's in it. Sucks about Nemea though, I usually use him until I get Lu Bu. And I didn't understand why out of all the Soul Calibur characters they could have put in 3, they chose Sophitia. Mitsurugi, Yoshimitsu or Sigfried would have been a better choice.
@@ChrisGildart I honestly thought Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate would have the Soul Calibur 6 cast Cassandra, Tara, Maxi, Klik and Xiang Hua as guest characters: Unfortunately they didn't.
My biggest problem is that even on normal difficulty the enemies are just damage sponges and there are just too many of them. With a 5 star level 100 character the enemies shouldn't need 4 minutes to die
first to say nice video second to say I think that only bad thing in this game is story, I hate how they made Orochi unimportant as this game is made and build on him, he is in the bloody name of the game and how they build Zeus as a good guy in the end and Odin as BIG evil force, there was such a potential for it like making Orochi as main antagonist of the story and bring Zeus and Hades as driving force of conflict and in the end they could have bring Odin as this benevolent god who is taking liking for humans and comes to help them to defeat Orochi in the end, that is what I would have done for story tho as Ultimate is cannon they did do redemption on Odin and if we ever get Warriors Orochi 5 I think they should stick with that and make Odin good also scale him down as he is OP as fuck and I have such a COOL idea for WO5 story, oh how I hope it will be at least 50% as I am hoping for
I would like Street Fighter integrated into Warriors Orochi 5. Ryu Sacred Treasure Move: Brisingamen Metsu Hadouken Guile Sacred Treasure Move: Talaria Flash Kick Also throw in more of the Greek gods and Egyptian gods.
Hey! I've played WO3UDE and i enjoyed the game, but what gets me back into it is the gauntlet mode and the challenge of pushing it as hard as i can since the miasma level goes up and up (that is really fun to me, mowing down stronger and strogner enemies). it really limit test my team and i like that. the infinity mode on 4 looks kinda...weak to me. do you think i'd enjoy it? what im after is a fun combat with lots of content and weapons to grind and characters to upgrade :D
I agree with a lot of your points! I love this game but there are some bells and whistles missing that hold it back. Ultimate did a good job to fix some of the base games issues, but there are still a few things I would have wanted to see. All the characters you said that were missing should have been added, but on top of that, the most elusive unique characters from the Multi Raid 2 game - Beauty Yu, King Mu, Xi Wang Mu ETC should have been included! Costumes from the older games should have returned, along with the colour edit mode from WO3. At least then we can choose our palette swaps! Also, I found that the majority of the Warriors Orochi cast (Excluding the newcomers) were under powered. Most of them have been rocking the same outfit and Moveset for ages now and deserve a revamp!
To be honest I love this game and its definitely not bad... I just wish there was a mode kinda like battlefront 2 but the Orochi map and you battle out to take over the whole area a battle at a time. But overall the gameplay is great... Ma Chao for the win
It's nice to see a channel with actual warriors content! I've been playing since DW2 and have every game since. Mainstream reviews always say "same game as previous with a higher number" Same reviewers will praise madden and other sports games. Its refreshing how you actually go into detail on what's new, whats better and worse. The warriors games would be more popular if people got your reviews instead of the others.
Thank youuuuu. Sports gamers buy a roster update every year for $60.....every year...they been fooled 21 times......and 4 times.. for a total of 84 times so far....morons but these games change alot each time
Hey! Look at Jim Sterling's reviews of Warriors games He's a huge fan of the series and you could see and hear the passion he has for the games in his reviews. He's critical for the right reasons.
Would you agree that DW 2 & Orochi 1 were the best of all?
@@themadknight5678 lolno
@@kidrobot. no idea what ur refering to but ok
Now I'm really looking forward to Warriors Orochi 5, if they ever decide to make one. Simply because I felt like there could've been so much more from this game that was left unfulfilled. Especially, as you've mentioned, about the story pacing. Maybe if they hear out some of your advice, maybe they'll be on their way in creating a masterpiece. Other than that, the game's music, as with all Warriors games, never disappoint. They're always bangers.
You play warriors orochi?????
@@toxg3922 i do, on playstation. You can add me so we can play
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They need to bring back the triple rush, that was a feature i loved from WO3U especially with the new characters added from DW and SW. It gave you a rush when you executed triple rush combo
Wow your story makes way more sense, especially how the mystery slowly builds and the Gods are left until the final chapters 😮
I was really bummed when they made the officers really easy to beat as long as you have Trident.
And I really miss those days where Lu Bu would just randomly appear and is too strong even for a max level character, then proceeds to chase you down like a maniac.
that's true. as long as you have the trident you can eliminate officers easily
This! I miss the old dynasty warriors games. I wanted Samurai warriors 4 but it's not available digital for xbox one.
Simple combat system. No sprinting. The entire battlefield was capable of standing their ground without the player. Some officers rode horses/elephants. The player had a squad of bodyguards. Warriors was perfect that way.
I was expecting Hundun to be this game villain. Imagine how cool that would be.
It should have been. Better than a greek god. Seriously still dont know how the hell they connected japan and china’s legends to greek. And no one in the game question it. How did the greek even know about orochi? That ruined the story it felt out of place.
I didn't realize I was listening to your fanfic until you said "reimagining" 😂
Don't mind orochi 4. It's definitely not perfect but i tend to play this more then I thought i would for some reason. Im not sure if it's that I feel the combat is smoother here then older titles but even with the lack of content the gameplay oddly feels fresh enough compared to previous titles.
I still go back to this game and with the Ultimate package I have more reason. I still prefer to go back to WO3U, but this is fun. That's why I still gave it a good rating.
Characters>Gameplay>Postgame>Music>costumes>Performance>Story, order of importance to me in a Warriors game, WO4U one of my favs, to me, it balances out with O3U. I miss kasumi and ayane tho.
What's wrong about seeing the Greek gods right from the begining ? they are just new characters
It's not like they were really the villians
I feel Koei tried to pump too much into the story at the beginning. Holding out on the answers gives the player more reason to continue so they can find those answers. I never felt like I was playing this game for its story. Just its gameplay.
Chris Gildart thats me for almost all their games
@@ChrisGildart I've pretty much never gave a damn about the story for any of these games, just how fun the slaughter of thousands is. @_@
Still though, WO 3 definitely had the best story of the O series.
I was the same until I started reviewing games. I'm still a gameplay over story person, but if a story doesn't hit me right it will effect my initial playthrough.
I agree that the Ultimate version of Warriors Orochi 4 should be free dlc for those who purchase the vanilla version.
(And if I have to put a price tag I would go no more then ten bucks.)
Your version of the story mode sounded like a lot of fun and at times I was thinking man if only the writing team could have done something like that for the actual story.
So as someone who is looking into getting the Ultimate upgrade, this video sure helps out a lot.
Orochi 3 is still the best for me atmosphere and character wise. Tamamo has quite the interesting concept but I would love to see more of her story in her eyes
Another great review by Chris. It's hard not to enjoy #MusouMay every year.
Thank you so much! I work really hard to make each year better than the last. Though your comment doesn't have many words, it puts a big smile on my face. :)
@@ChrisGildart does Warriors Orochi 4 ultimate needs a code to get the dlc or is all of it in the disc like 3 ultimate had?
It's all on disc
I wholeheartedly agree on the fucking costumes
I really hate that going through the game normally there basically isn't any costume changes
One thing I'd do is introducing Achilles in whichever mission the Warriors first go up against the Greek Gods, since he should have been included anyway due to being Greek.
Similar to his intro in 3, have him throw down with some of the powerhouse characters: Guan Yu and maybe Zhang Fei or Tadakatsu. Guan Yinping tries to help but gets blown away and Guan Yu, in a rage, attacks Achilles but Achilles knocks his blow aside and badly wounds him. As he's about to finish Guan Yu off, Yinping tries to stop him and in their clash that she's clearly losing, her bracelet activates and gives her her Diefication, to which she overpowers Achilles, and he finds himself fighting against the God of War and his now Diefied daughter and is forced to retreat or saved by Ares/Athena.
It was good lol. Definitely your story ideas as well. You can definitely tell they put little to no effort for their story in the vanilla version.
I feel like I put less effort into my story and it just feels better.
I liked the game's story, I dont completely get how your idea would work
13:07 Not enough guest characters to earn my approval.
I accidentally found u, I'll never leave 🥺
I miss the older dynasty warriors:( when getting a thousand kills was super special. I LIVEEE dw4 tehee
My thoughts exactly.
And the special line they're saying feels way cooler that way
We still have that, it's just 10,000 that's now special :)
@@oromain it’s just stimulus overload now. Too complicated for my cavewoman Brain
WO1 - has the best story
WO2 - has the best gamemodes
WO3 - has the best gameplay
WO4 - has the best roster
I don't know if I would say WO4 has the best roster necessarily. It brings everyone from DW8E and SW4-II plus all the original characters from WO3U, but I feel there are missing pieces. They had the chance to bring back the previous guest characters as well as Spirit of Sanada with WO4U, but they didn't.
I would say Wo4 has the most varied gameplay of all, I mean a ton of officers, mixed with sacred treasure moves ... it's just the best
@@Hidrozlais 100% just your opinion as i don't agree with this list personally.
Chris Gildart EXACTLY where is kasumi,ayane,sasuke,chacha,rachel,momiji,sterkenburg.
Why wasn't Medusa the end boss, revived by your relic powers by accident? It would have continued the snake theme!
1 and 2 was the best and I think I'm the only one who enjoys the classic graphics, the little objectives, and how the minions died and the slow motion slays 1 and 2 is just OG I like 3 and love how you go back in time to the mystics and how orochi came to be, I do wish we could get an English dub BUT I refuse to play the 4th.
Literally me since checking out the cutscenes of WO4 though some of them featured Cyborg Nezha 🙃
@@tmma1869 I wish they had made hundun the main villain in WO4 or susano gets corrupted somehow and you gotta fight him.
What I hate the most is when Koei Tecmo scam us on DLC, That's the biggest one in the world and they should go bankrupt for their greed.
I think my biggest gripe about 4 was that you have to do everything. It doesn't feel like battles are going on around you. in the entire story, I only had 2 instances of my units actually killing another unit. Dynasty Warriors 3-5 are still the pinacle because of this.
The difficulty in those games is unmatched to this day (especially dw2)
It's the same in wo3u as well, so I really don't get the love for wo3u over wo4u, it's a very similar game with more characters, yea we lost a few guest characters due to licensing but we gained about 50 new characters that weren't in wo3u
WO3U gave me an experience yesterday that put your gripe on point for me. It's 'The End of Orochi X' battle, a big final battle setup, and I'm 70% of the way up the castle path to Orochi, that fething sorcerer Kiyomori respawns and promptly starts charging up to Buff Orochi X. I throw down a save because I'm about to do something stupid. I don't want to hop on red hair (which I went and got specifically to save time traveling on missions like this!) and go all the way to the other end of the damn map just to kill Kiyomori so I can fight Orochi X without being cheesed. So I push forward, and just as I'm pulling up on Orochi X? The other allied officers down Kiyomori with zero input from me, amusingly seconds after he finishes his buff spell timer. I cheered out loud for Kai and the marry band even as I pulled up on Orochi X to quite literally combo him from full to near dead. (A lot of switching was involved.) One last special attack (Ma Chao kicking him off the platform through his swing for bonus drama.) and the stage was done.
It's worth having officers that can get things done, because even if it's going to be rare, those moments stand out.
I got this game during Covid and I was out of work and it got me through that time but I'm revisiting it now and trying to enjoy it without the dread and disgust I felt the entire time. It's been pretty fun. Dynasty warriors 9 was kind of a major fuckup for me because it wasnt the usual mindless arcade style i love.😢
Why not remake Warriors Orochi 1 + 2 + 2 psp content into a all in one game with modern graphic while expanding the story with new chara from DW 9 and SW Spirit of Sanada ?
I think it is fine and a good idea. All DW and SW release is basically a remake and expanding of the previous game anyway and it is working fine.
I think I would want a warrior Orochi empire just to able to make a custom character to play in that world.
Oda Nobunaga going full Demon King mode with an army of demons is must see entertainment
Honestly this would have been the perfect game for Sophitia to make a guest appearance in.
as well as Kratos.
I started playing DW8 Empires, my first Empires game. and wow its so addictive. i just finished playing and its 4am
Wow, I honestly agree with EVERYTHING you pointed out 👏🏻
I see everyone saying negative things, but here is a positive for me. The move sets. Having the DW8 move set instead of DW7 is a big deal. Same for samurai games. The combat on DW8 and SW4 is just better than DW7 and SW3.
That's a big deal for me.
It is pretty nice to have such a variety.
I love the story idea! It has the feel of wo1
So orachi 3 being the best, it was great but i missed not having english voice actors.
Same here
I just wanted the DW Strike Force Costumes to come back. Those were epic and to be able to see them used in cutscenes would've been awesome.
So can you play with all 3 of them at same time like orochi 3
Greek and Norse gods speaking perfect Japanese. Wonders never cease.
I always thought this was an apology from Koei for Dynasty Warriors 9.
Considering people prefer this over DW9, I guess the fans forgive Koei...mostly?
regarding the story
i just treat each of the entries like standalones (and i have never focused on the story in musou games lol im just there for the head empty action and seeing my fav charas in three kingdoms and the sengoku period history)
Warriors Orochi 3 is the Infinity War/Endgame of warriors games. Hope they go back to that one as a reference for WO5
I could see a scenario where Tamamo/Kyubi and Qin Shi Huang, the main villain of Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce 2, join forces together to destroy the heroes of the Dynasty and Samurai Warriors series and the heroes must join together to defeat this unholy alliance once and for all but it would be a hassle since Dynasty Warriors 9 has a revamped cast of characters yet Samurai Warriors 5 had trimmed down its roster to abide by the story of Oda Nobunaga’s rise to power.
I guess, Koei had to use the Dynasty Warriors 9 roster and the Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada roster in order to make Warriors Orochi 5 happen.
@@michaelbandada8330 umm.. Im hoping that they make WO5 with DW10 and SW6
Using SW5 for WO5 is a big no for me
@@michaelbandada8330 See, I know how I'd pitch that. "This is an excuse to essentially make assets for the next Samurai Warriors game, since we can just reuse them." The business folk love them some recycling.
I feel like any new warriors game needs to be phenomenal. It needs a fresh reboot lol
Yes!!!! 👊The potential is definitely there, but honestly, everything feels to.....gimmicky. Essentially there is just is TOO much going on. Especially narratively. I didn't even complete 4, because there were just TOO many mechanics to really have fun with any of it. I liked the overall story of WO2, and the execution/mechanics of WO3. Basically like you said, I would like to just go back to the BASIC premise of the Samurai and Dynasty characters (and maybe a HANDFUL of extra Koei characters, e.g. Joan of Arc) crossing over through time to fight through semi-historical settings!
Don Miles yeah that would be so sick. I even mean like just a DW game. i actually 100% DW9 and enjoyed it...even though it was just kind of, meh. But I would like to just see one (DW, or WO) with like an all out treatment
I've never actually played a base "Dynasty Warriors" title. I usually stick to the licensed ones like One Piece, or Zelda. I was curious to see stuff about this one, though.
WO4 was really good when you compare it to DW9 smfh I'm glad they didn't ruin it to that degree ❤
i really enjoy this game, because of lock on mechanic, feels like playing next level musou game..dont really care about the story, as long the combat are enjoyable, i have time to spend on it, because i know that gonna be a lot of grinding for a better gears.
It's definitely not a bad game. I just thought it could have been better. I can at least go back to this game more often than DW6 or 9.
Well out of all the coms the only one I have an issue is the weapon fusion. I can't wait to play this game
I love your video, you said everything I felt towards the game since it came out and playing it already. I love this series of the Warriors games. I love the collaboration of different warriors games coming together. If they want to do something big, they need to bring/include EVERYONE (spirit of sanada,all-star and previous installment) add all the costumes back and bring back the game features such as gauntlet, the switch combo from WO3U.
Could you imagine if EVERYONE was in here? All the Koei Tecmo IPs that have appeared in Warriors games? That would be incredible!
@@ChrisGildart Like imagine öka, zhou tai and ranmaru or hörö, guo huai and magoichi saika. It would be amazing.
They need to bring back the customize options. I miss being able to create a general and work my way up and becoming a legend of my own 😢
The weapon fusion is way better. You dont have to sort through all the weapons just to get what you want and you can just dismantle all the weapons as you get them
I don't like it because it is mindless, barely a "system" if you ask me. you just sell or dismantel every weapon except the obviously better one
@@wastingtime2380 exactly, i always did that before except this makes things much faster. Managing weapons is my least favorite thing in warriors games
@@moomanchu608 Agreed, weapon management either burns time or stresses me out; Since I would always be like "what if I need this later", or "what was I looking for again?".
This is my favorite Warriors Orochi game
EXACTLY why KOEI needs to hire people like you who are great with story and plot. You probrably would be able to tie in Priest Sand and Pigsy, to complete team Sanzan. 🤭❤️🔥
From a gameplay, cast, and presentation standpoint this game is head and shoulders above DW9 imo. The flow of combat here is beyond addictive and visually it ties with SW5 as the most most beautiful warriors game to date.
Bruh
Could make another warrior Orochi about Cronos Zeus Father.
The whole point of unique magic attacks is they are unique to each character, they are tied to the characters not the sacred treasures, good thing considering there are more characters than treasures, if they were tied to the treasures we would have way less of them
I was more thinking that you would have one unique magic attack per treasure, per character. So if I equipped Xiahou Dun with Laeviten and Ma Chao with the same, they would have their own unique magic with that one treasure.
There is no challenge in it. How do you have fun killing everyone so easily? Do they even hit?
It's all building up to this..... FINALLY
yo your story idea is magnificent im sad koei didn't have enough braincells for the step-by-step exposure 🥲
I wonder what's gonna happen to Warriors Orochi series when the Dynasty Warriors Origin came out. Is it going to be abandon, or change? I think this is very interesting topic for u to discuss a lil bit.
I love this game, I personally could care less about story, that's not why I play these games, I play for variety of characters and stages
That's mostly what keeps me coming back. The gameplay is pretty solid in this.
@@ChrisGildart I'm worried about number of stages because i've seen story mode is what is. there are the same quantity of stages than 8xl?
In the vanilla version there are some repeat stages. Just different enemy/ally placement. But Ultimate doesn't do that as much. You do have to go back to some Vanilla stages, but they play differently. If you get WO4U, you should find a good variety of stages.
@@ChrisGildart thanks! i love your videos
50% of the review is chris fanfiction XD
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Loved the first 3 games, never got the 4th because i've heard to many downer things, I think i made the right call, maybe I'll be back for 5.
I very much enjoyed W04. The story was not the best though. A lot of people acted very entitled about some of the guest characters not returning.
yeah the lack of guest characters really did not endear me to the game.
@@lunatantric6060the game has about 50 more characters than orochi 3 ultimate, so I'll gladly take the 50new characters we got over the what 3 missing guest characters due to licensing, orochi 4 ultimate has the largest roster of characters in the entire musuo genre
@@mathewhosier9739 OH agree but think as a whole I enjoyed the story of 2 and the way you played with the time travel more then the newest. Have them both though and love almost all the games ever put out.
People weren't disappointed about the news at all
Didn't really understood why did you said that
I mean it's not like it needs to have characters from SW spirit of Sanada
Yes it would be nice but it's not necessary
I found people were getting more and more disappointed as more and more news came out, not necessarily that they were disappointed in the announcement of WO4.
Masauyki sanada needs to be in every orochi and samurai warrior games
@@yonkocat also I want Sasuke in Warriors Orochi 4 ultimate but they did not do
I dont know if you are not active in the musou community but people were MAD. They really wanted these characters. I also think they should have added the dw9 characters. Since they ported the outfits from dw9 they could have also given the dw 9 characters a weapon set that was in dw8 empires ( lianshis weapon, yueying, xiaqiao etc.). The inclusion of the missing sw and dw characters could have easily pushed these games especially with dws catastrophical release
@@lukekrieg443 there werent any who got mad . there were some small number of people talking about - ( it woud be nice to have those characters ) but noone really got ~MAD~.
there were some complainteds about SW spirit of sanada characters , but about DW9 characters litrely none said anything . If you look even now not much people talk about it but ok.
- (sorry for my bad English)
They should have brought Xiang Wu,Emperor Shi and Xiwuang Mu from the Strike Force 2.
100% agree!
That new story you made was fire !!!
I'm actually fairly new to the Dynasty Warriors franchise, I had played Warriors games before but of franchises I had already known like One Piece and Fire Emblem. Dynasty Warriors 9 was actually my first in the Dynasty series. I was sad to see it wasn't a good one. But I didn't hate it. In fact, it's what got me even more interested in the series because the story is so intriguing to me. Having played that, I saw Orochi 4 coming out and decided I will get it so I can get to know the Dynasty characters even more. And while I still haven't played a Samurai Warriors game, I do recognize some of the characters from Pokemon Conquest. So I got Orochi 4 first day. I didn't know it had to do with gods so that was a pretty cool surprise. However, the game still left me feeling underwhelmed. Glad to see Ultimate fixes some issues but I will not be getting it any time soon. $40 is way too much IMO especially since it only adds 7 characters. Maybe if they added the Furries from Warriors All-Stars and the new characters from 9 then maybe. But for $40 I may as well buy Orochi 3 which seems to be the better one. And it has Sophitia so as a Soul Calibur fan that's really cool.
25:03 Nah that is something that's very good with customization and that is badly needed on Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate.
It's good to know that not i'm the only one who's complaining about the lack of customization (weapons, older costumes).
Also how KOEI asked extra money for 1 variation of the color palette editor (which was FREE in WO3U) for Orochi character is just disgusting.
On their laziest move ever.
All of this man's opinions are 100% correct. Can we get Chris to write the story for Orochi 5?
I would honestly love to see Warriors Orochi encorporate more mythologies. Maybe Egyptian next? 👀
@@ChrisGildart I would not mind tearing up the battlefield as RA THE SUN GOD
Now what they need to do is add the two girls from dead or alive, the blond ninja girl from ninja garden, and Sophia from soul calibur back in, and add Posiedon/Neptune, Aphrodite/Venus, Hera/Juno and Hercules from Greko Roman mythology and Thor from Norse mythology to the game (seriously, why weren't they added to begin with?!!!!!), plus all of the other gods and goddesses from these pantheons: Egyptian: Ra, Osiris, Is!s, Horus, Seth, Anubis, Thoth, Ahnur, Bastet, and Hathor. Mesopotamian/Babylonian: Gilgamesh, Istar. African/Caribbean/VooDoo: Ogun, Baron Samedi.
Japanese: Amaterasu, Sukiomi (the moon god). Celtic: Cernos, Lugh, Cu Chulainn, Morigan. Polonesian/Hawaiian: Pelee. Lovecraftian: Cthuhlu, Cthula, Yogg Saboth, Azathot. Will add more when I think of them. Feel free to leave ant comment(s) and ideas.
They should have added Apollo and Artemis. Creating their designs would have been easy considering that there is a load of art and mythology about them.
Mentioning Egyptian gods it would also be mighty easy to place characters like Isis whom has sorcery powers, bloodthirsty Sekhmet and Montu the military god.
@@azureascendant994 Yes, absolutely.
So, Smite Warriors? I admit, I'd buy that.
YES where is all the other characters. I would love to see Warriors All-Star in the orochi series. Also Spirit of Sanaa’s characters chacha, sasuke .
Warriors Orochi 3 ultimate?
MultiSuper GamerPerson ??
Joshua Griffith Warriors Orochi 3 ultimate is basically Warriors All-Stars
For me, Orochi 4 Ultimate is probably among my fav warrior games. The only really dissapointing thing to me that they left out 1 Character from their other Warriors games. They even got Achilles from Warriors Legends of Troy wich most people probably dont even know, yet they didnt implement guts from their Berserk Adaptation. Maybe cause of Manga license, but i dunno. Ryu, Jean from Bladestorm and Achilles are in this, why no guts ?
It's definitely because of licenses.
I want to get this it looks fun
Looking at his background.... this guy knows what he is talking about
I enjoyed WO4 and especially ultimate. while I agree that it is not as good as WO3U, I still thought the game was a lot of fun, even back in vanilla
William would have been so great in this game if you ask me
going from fighting demo- I mean yokai to fighting gods and meeting different versions of the characters he met in his own adventure in Nioh, THAT I would have loved to see
I'd be 100% down for that. It was pretty fun to play as in WAS.
Plus no duel mode I really love wo3 duel mode when I play as LuBu I only add hyperarmor for him and my friends removing the cards buffs and add one buff as a rule to balance the game was perfect 😞
The worst thing about this game is not everybody can turn into deification form. At least add DLC strikeforce costumes once more to compensate that KoeiTecmo.
strikeforce is the best costume wise
@@freshcoffee278 Doesn't matter anymore. The game is trash anyway.
Once any game has over 20 characters, i'm not complaining about having more. so This game having well over 150, i'm definitely not complaining about it missing like 10. And i for damn sure wont complain about a story in a musou game. My main issue was the magic system. Replacing individual specials with generic magic shared across characters was wack. Pirate warriors 4 did it better.
You sold me on this game! I'm buying it next pay check! Thanks
Hope you enjoy it!
This game is currently on sale on Switch. Is this worth picking up if I've never played a Warriors Orochi game before?
I would say so. If you're able to get Ultimate, it's definitely worth it. The base game isn't as much fun and doesn't have as much content.
@@ChrisGildart Yeah, it's the Ultimate version. Can't even get the base game on the eshop because it's been delisted. Thanks for the recommendation. 👍
What is the Best musou game for co-op? (co-op campaign preferred)
This is the orochi game that sophitia should be included
It sucks that some guest characters weren't included.
Its funny that when you mentioned All Stars, I knew every character, but you said them so fast I had to rewind and be like wait what
I was so deeply disappointed when I figured orochi x's moveset are a huge downgrade from warriors orochi 3 ultimate.. orochi x is already a stiff moffoka like pls I need the mobility
I would just like to give a quick opinion. Warriors Orochi 3 was the best warriors game. Like ever. Orochi 4 was honestly a serious let down. They seem to think we want story focus. But that doesn't really make a great warriors game. It is a part. What we want is great progression mechanics mixed with a good combat experience. If you can't do that. You don't REALLY have a warriors game I am going to play very much. That and unique mods like in dw8 and sw4-2. And with DW9, DW9E, Orochi 4, SW5. they are going the opposite way. Cutting out all of that. focusing on story. And thats more or less it. The modes become more and more shallow and pointless.
Samurai warriors 4 empires while they took risks with the game mode. It just became repetitive and pointless too.
They need to hire passionate people who understand what make video games fun. They need to refocus on adding unique modes. Chronicles in sw4 is a great example. Ambition in dw8xl is a great example. Mixed with meaningful combat and action that adds skills based strategy. We gotta get away from button mash to win. We gotta get away from uninspired level design. We GOTTA get away from lack of inspiration and passion in the entries. If we don't its over.
I never expected you to focus that much on your own story in this review.
I love it!
Also imagine a Warriors Orochi Empires game (Or at the very least have a lot more customization options like Empires.) I'd buy that in an instant!
I would love to see an Orochi Empires! I think the majority of the fans want that too.
Warriors Orochi 4/Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate is NOT the worst Warriors game
Yeah I suppose I'll get this eventually now that I know Ryu's in it. Sucks about Nemea though, I usually use him until I get Lu Bu. And I didn't understand why out of all the Soul Calibur characters they could have put in 3, they chose Sophitia. Mitsurugi, Yoshimitsu or Sigfried would have been a better choice.
I imagine they chose Sophitia for story reasons, not necessarily for fit.
@@ChrisGildart I honestly thought Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate would have the Soul Calibur 6 cast Cassandra, Tara, Maxi, Klik and Xiang Hua as guest characters: Unfortunately they didn't.
My biggest problem is that even on normal difficulty the enemies are just damage sponges and there are just too many of them. With a 5 star level 100 character the enemies shouldn't need 4 minutes to die
I actually hope they continue what they did with this game in orochi 5, this is by far my favorite orochi
There's quite a bit I'd like to see carried over, but there are some aspects that I'd like to see improved on. I'd still say WO3U is my favourite.
Warriors games are now Lawnmowing-humans simulator.
I can't believe Chris ripped off Wasted Plotential. Monster.
You snooze you lose! ;P
first to say nice video second to say I think that only bad thing in this game is story, I hate how they made Orochi unimportant as this game is made and build on him, he is in the bloody name of the game and how they build Zeus as a good guy in the end and Odin as BIG evil force, there was such a potential for it like making Orochi as main antagonist of the story and bring Zeus and Hades as driving force of conflict and in the end they could have bring Odin as this benevolent god who is taking liking for humans and comes to help them to defeat Orochi in the end, that is what I would have done for story tho as Ultimate is cannon they did do redemption on Odin and if we ever get Warriors Orochi 5 I think they should stick with that and make Odin good also scale him down as he is OP as fuck and I have such a COOL idea for WO5 story, oh how I hope it will be at least 50% as I am hoping for
I would like Street Fighter integrated into Warriors Orochi 5.
Ryu Sacred Treasure Move:
Brisingamen Metsu Hadouken
Guile Sacred Treasure Move:
Talaria Flash Kick
Also throw in more of the Greek gods and Egyptian gods.
The lack of automatic rushing is a pro for me.
I actually really enjoy it. Short-comings? Yes. But is it still a lot of fun? Oh YES. Hit the nail on the head.
Hey! I've played WO3UDE and i enjoyed the game, but what gets me back into it is the gauntlet mode and the challenge of pushing it as hard as i can since the miasma level goes up and up (that is really fun to me, mowing down stronger and strogner enemies). it really limit test my team and i like that. the infinity mode on 4 looks kinda...weak to me. do you think i'd enjoy it? what im after is a fun combat with lots of content and weapons to grind and characters to upgrade :D
I agree with a lot of your points! I love this game but there are some bells and whistles missing that hold it back. Ultimate did a good job to fix some of the base games issues, but there are still a few things I would have wanted to see.
All the characters you said that were missing should have been added, but on top of that, the most elusive unique characters from the Multi Raid 2 game - Beauty Yu, King Mu, Xi Wang Mu ETC should have been included!
Costumes from the older games should have returned, along with the colour edit mode from WO3. At least then we can choose our palette swaps!
Also, I found that the majority of the Warriors Orochi cast (Excluding the newcomers) were under powered. Most of them have been rocking the same outfit and Moveset for ages now and deserve a revamp!
To be honest I love this game and its definitely not bad... I just wish there was a mode kinda like battlefront 2 but the Orochi map and you battle out to take over the whole area a battle at a time. But overall the gameplay is great... Ma Chao for the win
Removing special attacks for magic is awful. Just remove almost all moves exclusive to WO and that's a positive somehow.