I used to work at this place as a lot attendant and they do this all the time these people are horrible people and this is a horrible car lot I do have the owner's cell number and I will be calling channel 3 today to give them the phone
I am a car dealer in Atlanta, GA and we all Must have "BOND Insurance" for this reason alone, the State License Bureau should be able to give her the BOND Information for that dealership, as each Dealer should have Bond Insurance and that's the exact reason we have it. File against the BOND and they will make sure she gets her money back ASAP. IF the dealership gets wind of this BOND Claim, they will probably give her all the money back before the BOND does. No one wants a BOND Claim trust me. (I am not a Reporter just a dealer)
As a dealer for many years no dealer wants a claim against their bond as it will be pulled and they will be out of business. The bond information can be obtained through the State Agency that overseas dealers and issues dealer licenses.
@@Snackz11 Dealers often sell cars without having received the title. Large and small dealers. That dealership appears to have decent reviews so likely some huge problem has come up with this unit. Frankly, the dealer should get her a similar vehicle and swap her into it.
There is a good chance that they bought this at copart and it may have come out to Arizona from Oklahoma there maybe a claim against the title like a title loan or mechanic lien that popped up because the original owner defaulted these problems usually arise from Repo's being sold at auction
They likely didn’t own the vehicle yet. That’s how these scumbag used car lots operate. Clearly, Ideal Cars are one of the scumbags and should be avoided. She needs to file a case with the AZ BBB as well. Make sure people are aware so that no one buys a car from them and they go out of business.
@ It’s not as useful as it could be. Consumers need to file complaints. Everything recorded and you can have your complaint added to the business’s record that people can look up. But just getting initially accredited means nothing.
A dealer must deliver title with a certain amount of time which varies by state, usually 60-90 days. If they don't a court can order the dealership to refund the original purchase price.
@@carsonac4163Oklahoma records the lien and gives the title to the person who purchased the car. Maybe there is a lien on the car, but the dealer should just pay the lien and make it go away.
@@jamesclark9347 Then if they are so wonderful, why don't they fix the problem? And start selling cars they have a clear title for? She's been waiting for a loooong time!
@Bill-im6nt you are a funny person. I never said wonderful. I said they are large and won't fold up and leave over one bad sale. You said if they are still around. As if they were going to fly in the night to beat this woman. If you listen it is being worked on. Said it will be resolved within a month or so. You are funny !
I'd just return the car. It's clearly and obviously the dealer's fault for not making sure the title was clean - 100% on them. I'd insist on a full refund.
Same thing happened to me at Horne Ford. It took 3 months to finally get a registration after they sold me a truck that they didn’t have the clear title for.
Lot sells car without clear title. Buyer can only renew paper plates 3x and the dealership knows this, so they bet on the buyer driving with expired temp tags so the vehicle can get impounded. Dealership gets the car out of impound because they have the title(or know who does across state lines) and they resell it to another unsuspecting buyer. They most likely do this with multiple cars on the lot. It’s an infinite money glitch for the shady dealership, police and impound lot. This is a CONspiracy between the 3 parties that stand to make the most out of it. Feds should look into RICO charges
I had this exact same problem with Chandler Harley Davidson bought a CVO Harley put the deposit down. Did everything come to find out two weeks later they call me to tell me they can’t deliver it because they bought it at auction and can’t get a title to it. They did refund all of my money eventually after about three months, but what a pain
I bought a car from a different ideal cars in Mesa, same company though. We agreed on one price and signed off on that price only to find out they raised the price by $3,000 and unfortunately my fiancee and I did not catch this until after we already bought the car
in michigan car dealers have to be licensed through the state. the state can take their license. you can't sell a car without a clear title. the car either has leins on it or it is stolen. the state of arizona should of been on this case long ago.
I filed a complaint with the AZ attorney general once about a dealer,got a nice letter back the jest being ,dear jim ,though your complaint may have merit ,you are not NEARLY important enough for us to do anything about it :(
The dealership should have a bond, filing claim with the DMV should get it resolved. Many years ago I had an identical situation with the now defunct Budget Car Sales, a local news station did an on air story and the problem was immediately resolved.
They do say that. There just apparently is no enforcement by AZ. Another example of government being broken. Citizens pay taxes and fees to fund these govt agencies but when they need help, like in the case of this poor woman, nothing is done.
If she took out a loan, which isn't 100% clear in the story, I don't understand how it's possible any lender would loan money for a car to a person who is not the same person who the car is registered to. that makes zero sense. wouldn't they want to make sure of that to protect themselves?
If it's financed then she should call the bank. I'm sure they would really interested to know that somebody else has claim to it because they have money involved in it.
why is the second person trying to register a car they don't have??? the guy at the dealer is a fraud! police should pick him up! how did she pay? bank? check? may be able to chargeback and give the cube back.
@@uncleandy7983 hmm i want to see the results of this! u are right. "hidden lien" keeps buyer from legally registering the car in their name because the title is not fully clear. she needs a lawyer...
@PandaMoolin I'm going to go out on a limb and make an educated guess as to the situation. Someone took out a title loan on the vehicle prior to selling or trading it in. I'm guessing that a bank isn't involved because of the age and mileage of the vehicle. There is also the possibility that it got repossessed for non-payment on that loan, and it went to auction. There could be an outstanding balance owed because the auction price didn't bring enough to cover the loan amount.
@@uncleandy7983 yeah but then it makes it criminal right? the dealer knew and just passed it on. i would file a police report. so they can see that the dealer never got a clear title. if they owned the car more than a month they are going to be in trouble.
@PandaMoolin The dealer could have won an auction and filed paperwork for a title without knowing a lien was placed on the vehicle. That's a risk you take buying from any auction.
These small dealerships are all scammers. Half the cars for sale on Craigslist, OfferUp and other classified sites are salvaged title and or in someone else’s name than those selling them. I’ve ran into this problem myself. People selling cars they don’t own.
To me, this is crazy. I'm not sure about AZ but here in NY the dealer handles all of the title, registration, and even insurance paperwork, delivering you a vehicle that is ready to drive on the day you pick it up. Here, it seems like she was the one doing all of the footwork for this vehicle instead of the dealer. The only time that happens here is when you buy from a private party.
"Had she known there was a title problem" AKA she bought the car and didn't bother to have it inspected or do a title check. That's on her. The doors have been repainted, the panel gaps are off, and the TPMS light is flashing indicating a missing TPMS sensor. I'm guessing it was in a front end collision where the insurance wrote it off and it got a a "low cost" repair. Maybe the reporter ought to do something useful and point out how you should spend $100 to get a car inspected before plopping down $5000 for a car you know nothing about.
Same thing happened to me 2 year ago. After bought the car from dealership 6 months later they couldn't get my title or registration. I filed complaint to DMV and dealership gave me a full refund.
This is an easy case for any attorney as Ideal cars can face a cease sales sanction from Arizona. The only thing I don't know is if Ideal Cars would have to pay this woman's legal bills?
They should give a warrant to the dealership who doesn't disclose that the vehicle is not a clean title. Also, they shouldn't be allowed to operate a business. We don't have anymore consumers protection. She should return the vehicle and get her money back and buy from the legit dealership.
The 2nd titling in another state makes me wonder if there are two cars with that VIN? VIN cloning is used on stolen cars sometimes, but which one is the real car? But I have a feeling selling a car without a title means the customer gets the money back, plus expenses, and the seller gets the car back.
As a former new and used car salesman my advice is to stay away from these unknown little car lots with all they sell is used cars. The goal is to sell with maximum profit with very little investment into these cars. Oftentimes these used cars can have shady history or shady sellers. By all means it doesn't mean all small car dealerships are bad. If I'm looking for a used Honda I'm going to go to a Honda dealership even if it means going out of state
They are ALL scammers. Even the big lots. I got scammed by one of this biggest dealerships. Auto Nation Chevrolet. You here these stores coming from every size dealers. For some reason. Fuckery is inherent in the auto sales industry. And it's never going to get weeded out.
This same exact thing happened to me…I purchased a van for work from dealership paid in full only to not be able to get a title and dealer didn’t even disclose… so I did the reasonable thing..I sold it 😂and put lost title fortunately buyer was aware of issues gave them a discount and eventually after legal talks dealership gave him a title 6 months later…
back in the mid 80's i found a nice 1 ton chevy cheap but it needed a engine. so i bought it got a title and got it in my name, even got tags. but one day something didn't add up because the title said it was a 1/2 ton. and when i went to go get it fixed it turned out every part of that truck was stolen. except the engine. they had to contact every owner of every part before i could get a builders title. but then i couldn't lease it on as a hot shot because DOT shut me down 3 times because the title said it was a 1/2 ton not a 1 ton and said i was over loaded every time. i ended up junking a good truck because it was useless to me.
The title problem is the car lot as not payed for the car to the bank. The car lot gets a loan for 10 cars. The car lot has to pay off the loan to get the 10 title’s. If they can’t pay it, the bank will repo the car you bought and sell it at auction, because they own the car. The car lot is 100% the problem.
If no clear title on Any vehicle should not be sold to be driven on public roads. Only for parts and off-road only. Its the responsibility of the local dealer since they have a license to sell.
Talking about car registration, I have seen 2 cars at the places I associate with that have been moving around with paper plates for more than a year now 😂
Why it takes too long to clear a title? It should been clear after 10 days. Than you should be able to register with the BVM. Washing the title or rebuilding the title. May take up to 2 weeks. So 10-14 days this should of been solved. Anything after 30 days, should be inexcusable.
She might as well quit paying for insurance, because you can't insure something that's not in your name Just wait and see if something was to happen to the car if her insurance will cover it
Odds are what this car is.. This car was a repo and it went to auction. You need to find out who has the title in Oklahoma and they are being allowed to re-register the car in Oklahoma if this person lost the car because they failed to make the payments. this person's commit a fraud. And the car lot needs to either fix the problem or give her her money back .why hasn't she demanded her money back
Arizona Revised Statutes 44-1267. Used motor vehicles; title; implied warranty of merchantability. States: A. Before the seller attempts to sell a used motor vehicle the seller shall possess the title to the used motor vehicle and the title shall be in the seller's name. Dealer may be in violation of this law. Let a Judge decide!
Don't buy any vehicle with a bad title! It creates a major paperwork headache, and, given the 9 way clusterf___k that AZ MVD has turned into in the last 5 years, they will tell you that they can't do anything. I begin to wonder if they hired a bunch of flunkies from CA DMV services......!!! That being said, the woman should have done some due diligence before finalizing this "sale". Sounds to me like she got hosed by that car dealer.
I quit the car-driving game for 16 years. As I got older, I decided to try to go 50/50 (bicycle and car) and bought a used car to extend my range because bus transit is pathetic most places. Biggest mistake of my life! It conked out in 1 year even though I checked it out and read the Carfax because they hid the damage deep in the engine compartment where an average person couldn't see it. I will never own another car again. It is all just one big con game to cost you money. At least with public transit, I get what I pay for. And bikes and walking are totally in my control.
Why would you be reporting it as a lemon? Why would you make something up that doesn’t exist and doesn’t apply to this situation? How is this car a lemon?
An Arizona Car Dealer MUST PROVIDE the Title within 90 days. The Dealer Sold a Car with no Title. Arrest the Dealer owner and Salesman for FRAUD!
Yep, as far as I am concerned, that woman now owns the dealership and all its property. She has rightful claim.
Not just the dealer, take the DMV out permanently too!
@@ronwade2206 why the salesman? He isn't responsible for the dealership not perfecting title
@@republicandan Because the salesman was in on the con and fraud game. You get it now? 🤦♂️👊🏾
Kinda why dealers have bonds.
Moral of the story: Don't shop at ideal cars in Mesa
They’ll shut down and open up the next day as Icon cars.
Yep
Been in business over 30 years
The sales man setting there chewing gum and saying it's out of his hands should say it all.
Not a person Id buy from. Rule #1. Never buy a vehicle from a dealer that is in Mesa/AJ. That is on a road that goes East/West. They are all garbage.
Yeah.... I'd take one look at him and say, "nope, I'm not buying a car from a salesman that can't even dress decent..."
@@carlrogers3505 that and I rather not buy cars at small random car dealerships I rather find a mint condition car from private seller.
I used to work at this place as a lot attendant and they do this all the time these people are horrible people and this is a horrible car lot I do have the owner's cell number and I will be calling channel 3 today to give them the phone
Dale is a turd
Lol Dale?
I am a car dealer in Atlanta, GA and we all Must have "BOND Insurance" for this reason alone, the State License Bureau should be able to give her the BOND Information for that dealership, as each Dealer should have Bond Insurance and that's the exact reason we have it. File against the BOND and they will make sure she gets her money back ASAP. IF the dealership gets wind of this BOND Claim, they will probably give her all the money back before the BOND does. No one wants a BOND Claim trust me. (I am not a Reporter just a dealer)
As a dealer for many years no dealer wants a claim against their bond as it will be pulled and they will be out of business. The bond information can be obtained through the State Agency that overseas dealers and issues dealer licenses.
Sweet; all Dealerships won't have Bond Insurance anymore.
@@mynintendogamingfeed5208 lmao 🤣 😂🤗
Same here in Arizona, the current bond is 100k but this dealership has been in business 30 years so their bond is probably at 25k
Sue the dealer
Small claims max in AZ is $3500.
@@mike-uw6wt Well then all she needs to do is go to the 2nd floor and file in State court. A few extra dollars 🙄
Never buy a car from a rinky dinky lot. Those cars usually have been wrecked, in a flood or stolen or better yet, no title.
I've bought four of them never had a problem
The dealer should never sell a car if they don't have the clean title hope they go out of business
@@Snackz11 Dealers often sell cars without having received the title. Large and small dealers. That dealership appears to have decent reviews so likely some huge problem has come up with this unit. Frankly, the dealer should get her a similar vehicle and swap her into it.
There is a good chance that they bought this at copart and it may have come out to Arizona from Oklahoma there maybe a claim against the title like a title loan or mechanic lien that popped up because the original owner defaulted these problems usually arise from Repo's being sold at auction
Why are the lazy bureaucrats at the AZ Dept of Motor Vehicles not taking any action? Boo on you AZ, protect your consumers from this kind of fraud.
No Habla
She needs to get off her big pat ass and file the necessary paperwork through Motor Vehicles, it’s not going to file itself. 🤦♂️🙄
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They likely didn’t own the vehicle yet. That’s how these scumbag used car lots operate. Clearly, Ideal Cars are one of the scumbags and should be avoided. She needs to file a case with the AZ BBB as well. Make sure people are aware so that no one buys a car from them and they go out of business.
@ It’s not as useful as it could be. Consumers need to file complaints. Everything recorded and you can have your complaint added to the business’s record that people can look up. But just getting initially accredited means nothing.
A dealer must deliver title with a certain amount of time which varies by state, usually 60-90 days. If they don't a court can order the dealership to refund the original purchase price.
The question is WHY & WHO is REregistering the car in OKLAHOMA? Find that out and alot more information is available.
A stolen car in OK probably has a duplicate VIN number
@@MRNICK68 I was thinking theres VIN clone out there. Or there was a previous owner who had a loan or lien against it from a bank in Oaklahoma
@@carsonac4163Oklahoma records the lien and gives the title to the person who purchased the car. Maybe there is a lien on the car, but the dealer should just pay the lien and make it go away.
The dealership will eventually be held accountable
If they are still around ...
@Bill-im6nt they are not folding over one bad car issue. Look at the lot it's plum full. I just searched them they have three locations.
@@jamesclark9347 Then if they are so wonderful, why don't they fix the problem? And start selling cars they have a clear title for? She's been waiting for a loooong time!
@Bill-im6nt you are a funny person. I never said wonderful. I said they are large and won't fold up and leave over one bad sale. You said if they are still around. As if they were going to fly in the night to beat this woman. If you listen it is being worked on. Said it will be resolved within a month or so. You are funny !
I'd just return the car. It's clearly and obviously the dealer's fault for not making sure the title was clean - 100% on them. I'd insist on a full refund.
Same thing happened to me at Horne Ford. It took 3 months to finally get a registration after they sold me a truck that they didn’t have the clear title for.
Lot sells car without clear title. Buyer can only renew paper plates 3x and the dealership knows this, so they bet on the buyer driving with expired temp tags so the vehicle can get impounded. Dealership gets the car out of impound because they have the title(or know who does across state lines) and they resell it to another unsuspecting buyer. They most likely do this with multiple cars on the lot. It’s an infinite money glitch for the shady dealership, police and impound lot. This is a CONspiracy between the 3 parties that stand to make the most out of it. Feds should look into RICO charges
She needs a lawyer to correct this matter.
I had this exact same problem with Chandler Harley Davidson bought a CVO Harley put the deposit down. Did everything come to find out two weeks later they call me to tell me they can’t deliver it because they bought it at auction and can’t get a title to it. They did refund all of my money eventually after about three months, but what a pain
The State of Arizona is partially at fault with a $3500 small claims limit.
Take it to State court, the same building 🤦♂️🧐🙄
She should be able to get her money back. Might have to get the AG involved, but she deserves much better treatment.
I bought a car from a different ideal cars in Mesa, same company though. We agreed on one price and signed off on that price only to find out they raised the price by $3,000 and unfortunately my fiancee and I did not catch this until after we already bought the car
in michigan car dealers have to be licensed through the state. the state can take their license. you can't sell a car without a clear title. the car either has leins on it or it is stolen. the state of arizona should of been on this case long ago.
I smell a lawsuit
I filed a complaint with the AZ attorney general once about a dealer,got a nice letter back the jest being ,dear jim ,though your complaint may have merit ,you are not NEARLY important enough for us to do anything about it :(
This new AG addresses issues. Try again
The dealership should have a bond, filing claim with the DMV should get it resolved. Many years ago I had an identical situation with the now defunct Budget Car Sales, a local news station did an on air story and the problem was immediately resolved.
The state should say you can't sell it .
They do say that. There just apparently is no enforcement by AZ. Another example of government being broken. Citizens pay taxes and fees to fund these govt agencies but when they need help, like in the case of this poor woman, nothing is done.
😂 it's Arizona tho
They can't get anything right
@Monarchloans-b5t well she needs too sue the state ,dealership, an the owner. ,an the guy who had her sign.
@@Monarchloans-b5t But we need to save money and cut government regulations, companies can self regulate!
If she took out a loan, which isn't 100% clear in the story, I don't understand how it's possible any lender would loan money for a car to a person who is not the same person who the car is registered to. that makes zero sense. wouldn't they want to make sure of that to protect themselves?
She said in the video the car was sold for under $5k so it was likely she paid cash, no loan.
@@Monarchloans-b5t She says in the video "I'm paying for it", which indicates and ongoing payment rather than a single payment of cash.
If it's financed then she should call the bank. I'm sure they would really interested to know that somebody else has claim to it because they have money involved in it.
why is the second person trying to register a car they don't have??? the guy at the dealer is a fraud! police should pick him up! how did she pay? bank? check? may be able to chargeback and give the cube back.
It isn't necessarily a person. It could be a bank that has a lien on the vehicle that keeps retitling the vehicle every time she tries to change it.
@@uncleandy7983 hmm i want to see the results of this! u are right. "hidden lien" keeps buyer from legally registering the car in their name because the title is not fully clear. she needs a lawyer...
@PandaMoolin I'm going to go out on a limb and make an educated guess as to the situation. Someone took out a title loan on the vehicle prior to selling or trading it in. I'm guessing that a bank isn't involved because of the age and mileage of the vehicle. There is also the possibility that it got repossessed for non-payment on that loan, and it went to auction. There could be an outstanding balance owed because the auction price didn't bring enough to cover the loan amount.
@@uncleandy7983 yeah but then it makes it criminal right? the dealer knew and just passed it on. i would file a police report. so they can see that the dealer never got a clear title. if they owned the car more than a month they are going to be in trouble.
@PandaMoolin The dealer could have won an auction and filed paperwork for a title without knowing a lien was placed on the vehicle. That's a risk you take buying from any auction.
These small dealerships are all scammers. Half the cars for sale on Craigslist, OfferUp and other classified sites are salvaged title and or in someone else’s name than those selling them. I’ve ran into this problem myself. People selling cars they don’t own.
People selling cars not in their names are not small dealers, they're unlicensed dealers.
that dealership gets an FFF rating from the BBB.
Don't dealers have to have a title bond to have a dealer license? Sounds like small claims court.
AG should take this case. That's what the Attorney General does for the people.
She needs to take the owner of the car lot to small clams court and get her money back,
They should take the car back and pay her everything she’s out plus some. I think it’s illegal. No one should ever buy anything from this dealer.
Dealers aren't gonna tell you if there's a problem with the title their jobs to get rid of the cars and make their money
Sue them! They knew about it and still sold it to her. Criminals. It's so sad she has to go through this.
need to change their name to "Less Than Ideal Cars"
To me, this is crazy. I'm not sure about AZ but here in NY the dealer handles all of the title, registration, and even insurance paperwork, delivering you a vehicle that is ready to drive on the day you pick it up. Here, it seems like she was the one doing all of the footwork for this vehicle instead of the dealer. The only time that happens here is when you buy from a private party.
"Had she known there was a title problem" AKA she bought the car and didn't bother to have it inspected or do a title check. That's on her. The doors have been repainted, the panel gaps are off, and the TPMS light is flashing indicating a missing TPMS sensor. I'm guessing it was in a front end collision where the insurance wrote it off and it got a a "low cost" repair.
Maybe the reporter ought to do something useful and point out how you should spend $100 to get a car inspected before plopping down $5000 for a car you know nothing about.
Yeah keep in touch for sure. 😊
Same thing happened to me 2 year ago. After bought the car from dealership 6 months later they couldn't get my title or registration. I filed complaint to DMV and dealership gave me a full refund.
This is an easy case for any attorney as Ideal cars can face a cease sales sanction from Arizona. The only thing I don't know is if Ideal Cars would have to pay this woman's legal bills?
Just confirms what we've often heard about used car lots. And I'm not convinced that new car sales lots are much better, if at all.
Looks like there’s a lien on the Oklahoma title for the car.
They should give a warrant to the dealership who doesn't disclose that the vehicle is not a clean title. Also, they shouldn't be allowed to operate a business. We don't have anymore consumers protection. She should return the vehicle and get her money back and buy from the legit dealership.
The 2nd titling in another state makes me wonder if there are two cars with that VIN? VIN cloning is used on stolen cars sometimes, but which one is the real car? But I have a feeling selling a car without a title means the customer gets the money back, plus expenses, and the seller gets the car back.
As a former new and used car salesman my advice is to stay away from these unknown little car lots with all they sell is used cars. The goal is to sell with maximum profit with very little investment into these cars. Oftentimes these used cars can have shady history or shady sellers. By all means it doesn't mean all small car dealerships are bad. If I'm looking for a used Honda I'm going to go to a Honda dealership even if it means going out of state
They are ALL scammers. Even the big lots. I got scammed by one of this biggest dealerships. Auto Nation Chevrolet. You here these stores coming from every size dealers. For some reason. Fuckery is inherent in the auto sales industry. And it's never going to get weeded out.
Someone needs to contact the Oklahoma DMV.
Contact the DMV and make a claim against their surety bond,problem solved.
This same exact thing happened to me…I purchased a van for work from dealership paid in full only to not be able to get a title and dealer didn’t even disclose… so I did the reasonable thing..I sold it 😂and put lost title fortunately buyer was aware of issues gave them a discount and eventually after legal talks dealership gave him a title 6 months later…
back in the mid 80's i found a nice 1 ton chevy cheap but it needed a engine. so i bought it got a title and got it in my name, even got tags. but one day something didn't add up because the title said it was a 1/2 ton. and when i went to go get it fixed it turned out every part of that truck was stolen. except the engine. they had to contact every owner of every part before i could get a builders title. but then i couldn't lease it on as a hot shot because DOT shut me down 3 times because the title said it was a 1/2 ton not a 1 ton and said i was over loaded every time. i ended up junking a good truck because it was useless to me.
Knowledge is power how did she let this drag for so long smh
Biggest buyer beware is that it’s literally a “dirt lot” dealership #1 on top of my list ✌️
If the vehicle was sold on there business Lot they are 100 percent responsible get a lawyer and sue them
Why did she fork over the money without seeing the title? Did she do a carfax? Did she ask the cops to run the VIN?
The title problem is the car lot as not payed for the car to the bank. The car lot gets a loan for 10 cars. The car lot has to pay off the loan to get the 10 title’s. If they can’t pay it, the bank will repo the car you bought and sell it at auction, because they own the car. The car lot is 100% the problem.
Dealer should give her money back.
Time to lawyer up.
Take them to small claims court and sue them
That’s why I say that these guys are nothing but crooks and sharks. Stay away from these small unreptuable dealerships.
If no clear title on Any vehicle should not be sold to be driven on public roads. Only for parts and off-road only.
Its the responsibility of the local dealer since they have a license to sell.
Sounds like the shysters at that car lot need to be shut down AND they need to give the lady back ALL of her money! Scammers.
Crazy how that place caught on fire today lol
That car can be impounded from anywhere, not just on the road, if it’s visibly showing an expired tag.
This is the shady side of the car business 😒
No question for why less than 5k!
In California that dealer would lose his license
Don't buy cars at I-Deal Cars in Arizona because the owners are crooks
So what is the “title problem”? Might be nice to know.
Talking about car registration, I have seen 2 cars at the places I associate with that have been moving around with paper plates for more than a year now 😂
These used car dealerships almost always don't have the title in hand when they sell you the car as they hAvent paid for it themslvés
Ideal cars should be put out of business.
Can’t you just cancel the insurance if you know you’re not driving it for months? Just have it when everything is all settled.
Why it takes too long to clear a title? It should been clear after 10 days. Than you should be able to register with the BVM. Washing the title or rebuilding the title. May take up to 2 weeks. So 10-14 days this should of been solved. Anything after 30 days, should be inexcusable.
The dealership's lieing. They need to refund her money
Dealer is giving her the run around.
Unfortunate situation
She might as well quit paying for insurance, because you can't insure something that's not in your name
Just wait and see if something was to happen to the car if her insurance will cover it
Theres a VIN clone out there. Or there was a previous owner who had a loan or lien against it from a bank in Oaklahoma?????
Why not take it back to the dealership, they have to refund your money that is the law Just sue them with your evidence, that would be a win.
I never knew you can insure a car with it not being in your name other than running a business , American laws are so different
Odds are what this car is.. This car was a repo and it went to auction. You need to find out who has the title in Oklahoma and they are being allowed to re-register the car in Oklahoma if this person lost the car because they failed to make the payments. this person's commit a fraud. And the car lot needs to either fix the problem or give her her money back .why hasn't she demanded her money back
tell car lot take that car back or give me clear title! It was illegal what they did!
She'll have to take that thing to Mexico. They drive anything out there.
Arizona Revised Statutes 44-1267. Used motor vehicles; title; implied warranty of merchantability. States:
A. Before the seller attempts to sell a used motor vehicle the seller shall possess the title to the used motor vehicle and the title shall be in the seller's name. Dealer may be in violation of this law. Let a Judge decide!
Don't buy any vehicle with a bad title! It creates a major paperwork headache, and, given the 9 way clusterf___k that AZ MVD has turned into in the last 5 years, they will tell you that they can't do anything. I begin to wonder if they hired a bunch of flunkies from CA DMV services......!!!
That being said, the woman should have done some due diligence before finalizing this "sale". Sounds to me like she got hosed by that car dealer.
Build a roll cage around it and register it as a spec custom dune buggy
Lol the car would've been back at the dealer on the first month. She shouldn't have let it go on that long.
Good job
IDEAL is one of the worst dealerships to buy a car…..I had my share
Carfax dealership are supposed to show them to people interested in the vehicle.
Can't trust a buy here pay here dealership.
0:55 the one time a Nissan can actually work and drive and legally you can’t drive it. 😭 that’s Nissan for you.
Hey Kate, file a claim against the Dealer's Bond Insurance 👍 or you can file my mail for a new Title from Vermont DMV 👍
That’s why I don’t do mom and pop dealers…
It’s illegal then you take the car back give her money back if the loan was there, the bank will dissolve the loan
i think only way is to sell the car instead for scrap and get your money back
That’s why I hate used car dealerships
Wow a 5k dollars Lemon 🍋
1:35 You was driving by? 😭😭 you should of kept driving you poor thing
I quit the car-driving game for 16 years. As I got older, I decided to try to go 50/50 (bicycle and car) and bought a used car to extend my range because bus transit is pathetic most places. Biggest mistake of my life! It conked out in 1 year even though I checked it out and read the Carfax because they hid the damage deep in the engine compartment where an average person couldn't see it.
I will never own another car again. It is all just one big con game to cost you money. At least with public transit, I get what I pay for. And bikes and walking are totally in my control.
I'm starting to agree with you.
Report it as a lemon and fraud get a refund.
That is what I would do.
Get a good attorney.
Why would you be reporting it as a lemon? Why would you make something up that doesn’t exist and doesn’t apply to this situation? How is this car a lemon?
I believe the Lemon Laws apply to new cars.