Sinister 2 - Movie Review
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- GoodBadFlicks reviews the sequel to one of the best horror films of the past few years. Directed by Ciarán Foy.
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The next movie should be called Shinister. About a guy who loses his leg below the knee in an accident and gets the shin and foot of a deceased serial killer. The shin then makes the guy... do things... like kick children and drive too fast in a school zone.
Shade Draws This needs to be a thing.
William DeMarco "THIS SHIN IS TEARING MY LIFE APART!" That's a line from the eventual trailer.
Shade Draws That reminds me of the Halloween Simpsons episode where they do a spoof of The Shining and grounds keeper Willie says bart can read peoples minds so he calls it The Shinning so they don't get sued.
This sounds like one of those shitty parody movies that somehow keep getting made like Disaster Movie and Haunted House and shit.
Um yea there is a movie called body parts with a story like this....im NOT lying...guy loses arm in car accident...gets arm of serial killer...stephen lang was the killer...he also gets his legs back from some guy..shit was nuts
I thought Sinister worked just fine as a standalone film, there was no need for a sequel.
B-but... But the money you could extract from some unrequested sequel!
WHAT? YOU DON'T WANT SEQUELS?! THEN YOU MUST HATE MONEY. (Corporate Commander starts raging)
Yup.
I think the main reason was that around this time Saw series was pretty much dead, then PA showed up, they milk the hell out of it and people lost their interest, and since there was no new sleeper\boom hit, they were desperately looking for a new October-Halloween series, so lot of these movies got unnecessary sequels.
No wonders they sorta reviewed Saw series. Again. To be fair, I thought "Jigsaw" ok. It's more of the same, but it sorta works as a stand-alone movie, you don't really need to watch preview 100 sequels to figure out who's Jigsaw, etc. You gotta give credit where credit's due.
Harley Dirk yes
How is this the sequel to Sinister? It looks as though its a German Expressionist type film combined with a video game...how weird
1st movie: Don't see the kills very much.
2nd movie: Shows them a lot.
Sometimes less is more folks.
stlouisrocker100 Gore isnt scary. Showing the reflection of his glasses makes it almost feel like real murders were happening.
amstel 54 Gore is used for shock value. I like off-screen deaths more because we can use our imaginations to consider what the victims had to go through.
LazySillyDonkey That was one of my favorite scenes in the first film. It built up to the horror and the jump scare was very well done. It wasn't a music cue, but the projector messing up.
stlouisrocker100 when i watched sinister at the lawnmower seen my reaction was exactly the same as ethan hawks.
stlouisrocker100 Exactly! Heck, even in ‘ALIEN’ you only see the xenomorph for like 4 minutes total. The rest is more on atmosphere.
I feel the lawn mower jump scare in the first one was the only "earned" jump scare in recent horror history, I wish the plot of the first was slightly different though (less jump scares, don't show the demon), the concept of sinister one is great, true crime author finds box full of snuff films is an interesting premise IMO
Yeah, that's what pissed me off. Terrific idea and premise, some good ideas, but overall felt very rushed and slapped together. It really needed few more rewrites and better director.
"Being startled isn't being scared" thank you man, I've been telling my friends this exactly for years since we saw the first paranormal activity when we were 16 it's like when someone comes up behind you and jabs you in the ribs. Horror has to stick with you you should be thinking about it days and weeks later, shit if its a great one [my favorite horror is The Shining] you'll be thinking about it years later.
You know what could've been a good premise for the movie, having it focus on a kid in a possibly dysfunctional family, maybe one of their siblings or the mom or dad found the tapes in their attic and got curious and watched it, thinking it was homemade horror shorts. They watch them and poke fun not realizing that these are real people dying. (Because why would they think it was real). Maybe they could even make fun of Baghoul or something, kinda like how people make fun of Jason, or Michael Myers. But over the course of the movie the kid gets visited by kids from the first movie. It could've been disturbing for the audience, since we know what's happening, but the kid either wouldn't think much of it, or would be terrified of them at first. It could go into how the kids are lead into killing their family, with this they could show despite being dysfunctional, it's still a loving and caring family. So the thought of killing any of them would scare the kid. Idk, just spit balling.
"mmmmbeguelll" lol
jumps scare piss me off
I enjoyed the first one up until Baghuul showed up and the guy explaining to Ethan Hawke what is going on. The kids were good in the first one, but the problem was Baghuul himself; just leave that part in the background, we don't need to know more about him. And of course he has to have a jump scare at the end which serves no purpose whatsoever. Sinister is one of those movies that didn't need a sequel.
"I'm so...startled!"
Some movies just aren't meant to have a sequel 😒 why do they even bother.
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GoodBadFlicks eh true..😕
They played the original on SyFy today, i thought the sequel's trailer looked good and I was actually getting interested in it, and because of that and this video giving it a good name I decided to check it out, cool movie, I'm still unsettled.
I didn't care for the first film, but my God it had a very creepy soundtrack. Glad I can pass up on this one.
The weird thing is the soundtrack is taken almost entirely from 1 song. Ulver - Silence teaches you how to sing
When I saw the trailer I thought it was a Children Of The Corn remake.
Rickbane Randall Flagg is He who walks behind the rows!!!
Have you seen Babadook?
what is the deal with the unrelated video footage? Thumbs down for that.
Christmas super 8 was downright depressing and horrifying, by far the best part of the film.
I really enjoyed the first one. Imo it was the first good horror movie I'd seen in awhile. I had been looking forward to this one. I don't watch horror movie when they come out in theaters tho. I like to watch them in the middle of the night, alone.
You should check out The Babadook if you haven't already. I can't guarantee that you will enjoy it, but I think it's one of the best horror films in recent years.
+Harley Dirk agree!
"What you have is a Baghuul problem"
-Hack Frauds, 201X
Anyone else seeing footage from some random game instead of the actual video?
If I want to REALLY be scared I'll watch the " I.D." Channel with the REAL monsters and not a " Horror " jump scare movie....
"BAGHOUL!!" has become the theme for ALL Barmitzvahs. _
What am I watching here? It is some weird videogame while he talked about the movie.
I'm especially sad to hear this because ever since I discovered that C Robert Cargill was the brilliant film critic of the outstanding Spill crew, I have been SERIOUSLY rooting for him to make it. And while it's very clear that he wrote it because of a studio demand because his first movie was so successful, I really hope it's not a black mark on his record that haunts him. As a critic, he had a very, very seriously strong understanding as to what makes a particular element or concept something that makes or breaks a film, and the idea that someone so alert to the intellectual intricacies of the craft being an actual filmmaker was, and still is, a very promising prospect.
+Jonathan Kozenko considering he just wrote Dr Strange for Marvel, I'd say he's doing just fine. I like him as well, he seems like a genuine guy who just wants to make good movies.
Drag Me to Hell was jumpscare central lol. They even did a fucking toaster jumpscare for Chrissakes. A TOASTER JUMPSCARE!
Also, from the first Sinister: the footage of a family - I think it was - getting ran over by a lawnmower, probably the better part of the film.
Jeremy Jenkins Oh seriously. Everything in that movie was jump scares. I love the Evil Dead movies but I couldn't stand Drag me to hell.
Yep, the lawnmower part made me jump. A GENUINE jump scare! They did it perfectly.
Robert Cargill the writer used to review movies on Spill.com You can find some of there reviews on TH-cam back from 2007.
I was so disappointed with the fact the visuals aren't related to the movie ostensibly being reviewed that I won't be watching any other video by you. This is very disappointing as I have watched several of your other videos and I appreciated those. I don't understand why you would do this, but it is such a digression from what i expect from a review that I hated it.
Huge fail.
First of all this is from 6 years ago. There is some context here that is needed.
Years ago, studios were being very difficult as far as copyright claims over current movie reviews. So putting up a video would get instantly claimed and the studio would take all the ad revenue. At the time, I was looking for ways around this so I could still talk about the movies without having to deal with the studios.
It was an experiment that didn't work and I think I only did maybe 2-3 of these types.
Perhaps weigh the quality of my content on what is out there that is consistent and more current than openly dumping on a video that was an oddity.
@@GoodBadFlicks That makes sense and is fair. I haven't seen enough of your work to have known how extraordinary this video was, the age of the video not withstanding. I appreciate the context and that clearly explains what I have seen here... and thank you for that. I was sincere in my disappointment.
I can see why you would respond to the copyright issue this way.
I can equally see why it failed as an experiment.
I will not hold this video against you any longer, and go back to enjoying your videos; thank you for that. The fact that the video was an oddity doesn't protect you from the vagaries of the algorithm. That is to say, it can be and was randomly suggested to me in spite of it's age and lack of relevance to the body of your work... for that reason, I would suggest you remove it so you are no longer in danger of someone getting the wrong impression as I have.
On the other hand, if it is still generating income, I can understand why you would leave it up in spite of the tiny potential for damage to your channel.
I am glad I said something and you replied rationally.
@@GoodBadFlicks I don't actually know where or how to remove your channel from my 'do not recommend this channel again' list. I can't find an explanation of how to access it online... if you have advice how I can remove your channel from that list, it would be hugely appreciated; otherwise, I am not sure i will be able to see your videos without visiting your channel explicitly to do so and I am not likely to do that.
Sinister 2 doesn't feel like a sequel it feels more like the origin story about how the kids are turned on their parents and how the antagonist "hunts" with the video camera as a tool now if they do a third one hopefully they go back to what made the first movie great.
I was disappointed. It isn't like EVERYONE didn't complain the first movie ended so badly. So in their infinite wisdom the concluded that they need to do it again. You should make a movie!
This was quite bad. I wasn't big fan of the first one, but at least it tried to be good and legit horror movie. This was just all over the place. There is one thing that I actually liked, and it's when Deputy figures out how main villain operates and he goes to lead lady and tells her that she must not move out of the house, but she insists because she's on the run from her husband. So it was sorta great scene because Deputy knows what's gonna happen to her and her kids if she moves, but he can't just flat out tell her the truth because he's gonna sound like a lunatic, and yet he somehow must convince her to stay.
Anyway, Deputy was overall good thing about first movie, I don't remember any other horror movie having cop who's was like "Ok, I totally believe you it's supernatural". In horror movies cops are usually cannon fodder and represent false hope of security.
Sinister 2 was trash. The first one was much better. The soundtrack for the first one was better as well.
The final jump-scare of "sinister" is so out of place and utterly nonsensical, it's the villain looking at the camera, tilting down at an angle. It's almost as if they got mixed up the last page with just that scene from some of those "scream" spoofs, I forgot the name of the series. Which isn't that good either, they're beginning of the definitive end of good spoofs.
I think what would have been a better movie is if they would have focused on Buguul as in his origins, maybe some historical event that involved him. I don't mind a backstory of origin story with a little more detail than what was in the first one. Movies that really go into lore can be interesting and mysterious and I felt there needed to be a mystery in the center of it. I am thinking more of the movie "It" when it went back into the town's history and there were some references or old photos of Pennywise that the adults didn't notice.
However, if they were going to go back to the origins and when Buguul became a thing, it should have had something on how to stop Buguul. I'm thinking of the idea of the power that belief has in whether or not an entity goes from being a story on a page to being brought into reality. I think that in this one, it showed that there is a choice whether or not to follow Buguul and what happens if he's not obeyed and everything falls through.
It would have been good for the deputy to maybe team up with a retired cop who had also noticed the strangeness of the murders but thinks it's the work of a killer or family of killers who go around killing families in a ritualistic manner.
Back stories can be good if done right, but I see what you mean with too much of backstory. The "horror" movies I like are the ones with a mystery to them. Just my thoughts.
I actually like this more than the original they could have shown less of Bagul but I like the ghost kids
It's nuts how such a great film could be followed by something so insanely bad. Heck, even Hostile was good, then ok then omg no.
I think all jump scares should now be called BUGHUUL!
My mom isnt big into horror movies or at least the graphic ones but I was suprised that she saw the first Sinister movie and she hated it.
I liked the first one,it was a nice change from the same crap we see every year.
Thats disappointing. I was maybe gonna go to the movie tonight and see it. What a bummer. I seriously HATE when they do jump scares. It annoys the hell out of me. I thought the jump scares were annoying in the first one too. Except for the lawn mower one...that was the only good jump scare I've ever seen in my life. I figured they'd tone it down for the sequel, but I'm hearing they doubled up. Which is saddening.
bones22j Its a shame because I was enjoying the extra character development of Dept So & So. He did a good job and was interesting but the constant need to do jump scares took me out of the film every time.
i thought we saw too much of the kids doing Buguul's work and not enough of how he gets them to do it. he's both too present and yet, not really much of a force in this one. he keeps appearing but not really doing anything and the ghost kids are there a lot but you don't really see how they manipulate the live kids to kill their families. it doesn't even seem like they get anything out of it. they just go 'i did this one. top that!'
sucked compared to the original!
Great review!
This is exactly what I wrote in my review for a dutch moviewebsite!
Sinister 2 was terrible. The only fun part for me was to see someone else during the press-screening literally jump out of his seat everytime there was a jumpscare. Like you, I also saw those scares coming from miles away due to a healty horrormovie appetite
This goes on my list of worst horror movies ever.
James Ransome is top-shelf 👍 Brilliant in Generation Kill also
can't blame them for trying but it felt cheap.like they said let's get what we can out of old material
Right up there with Halloween 3. Should have never made it.
That's disappointing for sure because i felt they could have easily built on the elegant brilliance of the original .
I'm still going to to reserve judgment because i just may like it .
Joe Vector The concept was still there and I liked the idea of where they were going but the execution was all off. They focused on the wrong things (jump scares, gore) instead of the story. Also, they had two major cop outs in the end, only 1 I mentioned in the video.
Such a bad sequel, that you don't even show any footage
Good point, can you do one on the crazies comparing original vs remake?
d. allen spencer original is so awesome. Totally different movie from the remake!
Can't agree with you more. The first Sinister ties with Maniac (2012) as my favorite horror films of all time and this one I watched with total dread. It was disappointing to see this film constantly shit on the first film. Best left forgotten.
It sucked. No words for it. It just sucked.
The exorcist was boring.
What the hell is this black and white mini show or game.
Thanks for the review. That's a bummer since the first film was so good, but the studio had to put together a weak follow-up. Well, maybe I'll check it out on video.
I'm a moderate fan when it comes to horror films. I'm more of a film of psychological horror, as opposed to flat out gore fests. That said, the first Sinister was amazing. I had really low expectations, but the movie was genuinely terrifying and I liked the characters and the (SPOILERS) dark, depressing ending. This sequel did everything wrong. This movie felt like it needed to take things to the next level. While, I appreciate them trying to continue the story with the deputy; personally, they should have stuck to the same style as the first, but mix it up. Maybe, the Baghuul can infest people's dreams and thus can interact with anyone through that route. I know that's a big strech, but this movie was awful and a major disappointment from someone who enjoyed the first movie.
+Neil Ganti the sequel was everything I was afraid it was going to be. They ignored what made the first one work
GoodBadFlicks Exactly. And that's one of the reason why I was so disappointed. If they had stuck to what the first movie did(and change a few things up), this could have been the next big horror franchise.
I feel I should address the misconception about "jumpscares". People assume that Jumpscares are heinous. False Jumpscares are heinous, Jumpscares done by the threat itself is golden.
This is a real shame. I really enjoyed Citadel, a really creep Irish film. i hope Foy is able to make another original film.
oh.... Citadel was Foy's first film.
Agreed. This movie is 2/10.
Keep doing the great work. We love your videos. Can you please review the Poltergiest remake? Or maybe the Rob Zombie Halloween 1&2? Also Deep Rising would be awesome! Thanks.
Nope, the kids were not scary at all in this flick, although I did enjoy getting a glimpse of their motivation and how they recruit the next kid.
Yes they were trying too hard to be too graphic, and yes there was a lot wrong with this movie, but I dig Deputy So and So, and I was entertained well enough. I have found I’m not nearly as critical with this movie as many others are. 👍🏻
Damn...I'm glad you did this. And I'm so sorry this franchise went this direction. Luckily I didn't see this one.
P.B. Winterbottom!
no no no....dont tell me it sucks...
fuck i loved the first one. fuck it, cant wait till Half in the Bag rips on it. bahhhh ghoullllllllllllll
Baghuuul!
Yeah I watched this yesterday on Netflix. The jump-scare at the end was so lame. They could could have ended it way better.
Yeah this movie is ass
You know you hated a movie when you don't even show footage from it. That's a really bad sign.
Sinister 6 is better
I never realy found these movies scary at all I always thought begule lookt like slenderman bought a wig a bad news
I didn't mind Bagul's screen time , I actually thought he was around less than in the 1st ( I like how they used him better as character in the 1st installment though )
#2 wasn't that bad , I liked it , but like the vibe/editing of the 1st 10x more
I did really like how the little girl was conjuring Bagoul through a sonogram or whatever. Other than that. It was alright.
Im with you man i realy liked the first one and i wasn't exicted for the sequel.
I was afraid that with the popularity of Sinister that the second one would fall into the sequalitis.
I watched it again yesterday this sequel had potential. It still leaves you feeling like throwing up at the end.
On the crocidile super 8 film i actually laughed at how awful it looked
Watch The Babadook, Martyrs or Inside (A L'interieur) instead
Alex Landry indeed
Goodnight mommy was good/ bad cliffhanger ending
Initially when me and my mom watched the movie together we felt they were seemingly trying to turn it from a well made horror movie into a monster flick. There was too much attention or rather the wrong kind of attention on Bughul.
To be honest, only good thing that I can remember about the first one was the super 8 footage. Rest of the movie was really medicore at it's best and after appearing of goofy ghost children with flour on their faces - movie went downhill. I hope they are gonna improve the things in the Sinistter 2, but after your review I think I gonna give up on this series (if there are even plans for third)
I really don't like how you did this review-very odd. Please don't do anymore movies like this again with commentary only and not showing the actual characters and scenes in the movie. I love your channel but not this, sorry.
Cynthia Monroe 1. The movie had just came out, so why/how would he use footage for the review. 2. This was made in 2015, not 2018. 3. Personally speaking, in no way is it odd. He literally just gave out a standard review on a movie for people like you. Pretty much what all reviewers do when a movie just comes
Winterbottom! I played a little of it years ago, need to get back to it.
Sequels - killing off movies since forever ;D
The first one was pretty dull and uninspired.
I LOVED the first film. Probably my favorite horror movie of all time actually. It was so unique and different and I agree with good bad flicks, it was genuine fear. I rarely get uneasy watching a movie but this got me, in the pit of my stomach just very nervous for what was going to happen next. For the sequel...yeah it just couldn't match the intense feelings of fear the first one had which was going to be impossible anyways given that the first movie we were unlocking a mystery, this one we weren't. I do agree that they showed Bagul far too much, a little Bagul goes a long way. The ghost kids weren't the least bit spooky. HOWEVER it's not all gloom and doom, I actually did enjoy the sequel. I thought James Ransone was a great character to bring back from the first and I thought Shannyn Sossamon did well. If not compared to the first sinister, it's a passable horror movie made better by a very likable lead character. It's flawed for sure and doesn't hold a candle to the first film but still I enjoyed Sinister 2.
"A little baguul goes a long way" is the best sentence Ive heard all year. Thank you.
what video game am I looking at here? it looks more fun than the movie
+crodgers100 It's literally written at the beginning of the video
Thanks for the review bro. Gonna see it today.
First bad movie review? Lol I I'll take you seriously then! Loved the first one too! I'm curious about the deputy, I'll wait until I can rent it.
liz noir Yeah I try to focus on the positive with the channel but if I'm going to do some more current stuff blind then I'm going to run into movies I don't like. This wasn't terrible, there were some good moments but overall it was just a quick buck sequel that thinks scary is by making stuff jump out at the camera.
i actually like the longer short films
fun fact one of the writers was in the spill podcast
Nice review.
Sounds like they fell into some obvious traps. I liked the first Sinister, but when those slow-motion kids appeared they really made the second half weaker that it should have been. A movie focused on those brats sounds like a bad idea.
And the trend with gorier sequels really get on my nerves. The Final Destination and Saw series turned the gore to such levels it became darkly comic instead of scary. I think the original movies of these franchises were effective partially because they were subtle about it.
TheHitherto The kids didn't even have the makeup so they just looked like regular kids up until the end. They weren't scary they were just annoying.
Thanks for the Warning.
The use of the old radio was cool.
I never knew there was a sequel.
Dam it now I gota see the first sinister I think I saw it on netflix right?
juans daone The first one is seriously one of the best horror films in recent years.
will you do an unscripted for sicario when it releases.
Medhaav Mahesh I might, I'm not really sure yet
I now hate you because i love the second one more then the first one and i dont knoe if you were talking about Milos murder scene but that murder scene was the best out of all of them!!!
You are wrong.
The video game playing while listening to the review was annoying.
TH-cam's copyright nonsense was in full swing at the time and I was trying new things in order to do current reviews. Now I just don't do them at all, its not worth the hassle. (the in theater movie reviews, not my other videos I still do those)
Sorry, but WTF am I watching in this review, the weird 'pie game' animation??
Not surprised personally. I'm another of those disappointed by the first movie's last quarter or so where it feels like the filmmakers almost gave up.
And the trailer for this one looked reaallly bad...